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What They're Saying Before the Orlando Magic Face Off Against the Dallas Mavericks

  • Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy says Dwight Howard is overshadowed because "it’s a perimeter league."
    Brian Schmitz notes that general manager Otis Smith did speak with other teams around the NBA before the trade deadline came and went.

    Magic GM Otis Smith said he spoke to about "eight to 12 teams" before the NBA trade deadline on Thursday, and most were interested in little-used big men Marcin Gortat and Brandon Bass.

    Smith wasn't buying what teams were selling, so he did what he said he would do — stand pat.

    "Nothing made me look twice," he said. "There was nothing that was going to greatly improve our team. I wasn't aggressively pursuing anything."
  • SF Matt Barnes, a former high school football star, hopes his taste for physical play is rubbing off on teammates.
    Matt Barnes talks about the Magic becoming more physical.

    Barnes is encouraged that his physical nature has rubbed off on the Magic.

    "It's something I've said in team meetings," he said. "You can't be afraid. You never want to be dirty. But if somebody fouls hard and hits you, go back at them. And if they try to take on your superstar [in this case, Howard], we got to band together.

    "I try to bring just an edge and a toughness and it's starting to carry over, definitely."

    Barnes concedes that the Magic have an image as a 3-point shooting finesse team.

    "I think so. Not to be negative, but it's just something that's out there," he said. "I think we're making a conscious effort to change that, that no 3-point team can really be physical."
  • Dallas Mavericks now appear victorious in duel with Orlando Magic over Marcin Gortat and Brandon Bass
    Tim McMahon of ESPN Dallas writes that the Orlando Magic "outsmarted" themselves when they signed free-agent power forward Brandon Bass from the Dallas Mavericks this summer, in addition to matching Dallas' offer for center Marcin Gortat. Neither player has made an impact this season, says McMahon, while the Mavs' big men have been more productive.

More after the jump.

Star-divide

  • Ex-Mav Josh Howard's Top 10 Trippy Quotes From Washington
    Mike Fisher of Dallas Basketball notes Josh Howard's amicable departure from the Mavericks.

  • Night of partying might have led to Josh Howard's exit
    Eddie Sefko of The Dallas Morning News reveals that a night of partying may have been the straw that broke the camel's back for Howard.

    The juicy piece of irony is that Howard ended up in Washington, which may well have been the site where he had the beginning of the end, according to several Maverick sources.

    They say Howard had a long night of partying on Jan. 19, the night after the Mavericks had won in Boston and less than 24 hours before playing the Wizards.

    The team officially said he missed the game against Washington on Jan. 20 with a stomach illness. But sources said team officials could not deny that it was a self-inflicted game off.
  • Mavericks' Kidd hoping to close the deal
    A look at where the Mavericks have been since acquiring Jason Kidd.

    It was two years ago today that Kidd officially came to the Mavericks. The trade was made to give the Mavericks a veteran leader at point guard who could maximize Nowitzki's talents and keep the window of opportunity propped open as long as possible.

    Two years later, it's still open. How much so is subject to debate.
  • Trade made Dallas Mavericks better, but not to Lakers level
    Randy Galloway of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram feels that Mavs' acquisition of Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood makes the team better, but not at the level of the Los Angeles Lakers.

    This makes Butler and Haywood the new pieces around Dirk, and they join 31-year-old Shawn Marion from last summer. Butler will be 30 next month. Haywood is 30. The original thought was that in dumping Howard, the Mavs needed to get younger. Instead, the tradeoff is the oldest team in the NBA got better on paper.

    It was a deal that drew applause around the league for the Mavs, and had most of the local media in a state of gushing.

    But even in gush-mode, no one was crazy enough to say the Mavericks just pulled even with the Lakers. Well, president of Mavs basketball operations Donnie Nelson did, but Donnie had been nonstop on the phone for a week, so excuse him for a delusional state.
  • Haywood Factors Quickly Into Mavs' Run At Lakers
    UPDATE: Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse elaborates on the new setting Butler and Haywood are in.

    They've gone from a sinking ship and the chaos that surrounded Gilbert Arenas, to a team that now thinks it legitimately can challenge the defending NBA champion Lakers.

    "Can we compete with the Lakers now?'' Haywood asked. "Yes we can. And I think it will be a very entertaining series. We'll definitely have a shot to win it, too.'' [...]

    "That (beating the Lakers) is the plan. That's why the moves were made, to compete with the Lakers,'' Butler said. "They are the team to beat, and I'm looking forward to that challenge.''

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I think it's premature to call the Mavs "victorious" ...

From the beginning we knew that these two signings were made specifically with the playoffs in mind. And while many of us entertained the thought, the fact is we were going to continue to roll with a stretch four-style of play from the beginning (i.e., Rashard and Anderson). Let’s see who goes further in the playoffs this season and then declare a winner. And regardless of what happens even there, Gortat and Bass at minimum provide us with very tradeable assets come draft/offseason. So I say the deals still lean Magic.

by jMagic09 on Feb 19, 2010 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

I don't know how you can say they won either

How does anyone know if Gortat would have played much better if he had gone to Dallas, maybe he would have had minutes to work himself out of his funk? Maybe with him they are even better record wise at this point in time? Too many variables, and Bass while not what we had hoped for, is a good player on the wrong team. We don’t have a coach that wants people taking mid range jump shots in abundance. And Bass is a mid range jump shooter, if his defense was better then it would be acceptable.

by Eric9321 on Feb 19, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Excellent comment.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 19, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This whole "nobody respects us" thing is getting a little old.

Who is overshadowing Howard? He’s widely regarded as the best center in the game, is a perennial All Star, and pretty much everyone except Shaq loves him.

Can’t we silence these Christian athletes who thank Jesus whenever they win and never mention his name when they lose? You never hear them say, "Jesus made me drop the ball" or, "The Lord tripped me up behind the line of scrimmage."

by Diosnomeama on Feb 19, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

There's a fair amount of mainstream media who still don't respect them.

Every story I see or hear about how Howard doesn’t have an offensive game is funny. Plenty of uninformed analysts still don’t understand the Magic have a good defense and that we just outscore opponents, despite the fact the Magic have a better defensive efficiency than offensive. Of course we still hear the whole, “The Magic and Dwight are just too goofy to be serious contenders,” angle a bit too often.

The guy has no credibility, but just as an example Tim Legler didn’t even have the Magic in his top 5 this week. It’s bizarre, I’ve never seen a team that has had so many misconceptions about it from 3 years ago carry over for so long after not being true.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 19, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but who cares what the media says?

Most of them aren’t even qualified to write Bazooka Joe comics.

Can’t we silence these Christian athletes who thank Jesus whenever they win and never mention his name when they lose? You never hear them say, "Jesus made me drop the ball" or, "The Lord tripped me up behind the line of scrimmage."

by Diosnomeama on Feb 19, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't, it's funny.

Well, I do care about the fact that there are people getting paid a good amount of money to do what I would love to do except they’re doing it terribly. But as a fan of the Magic, it’s just funny. I could see how the same kind of questions/stories would get tiresome to the players and to Stan though. Right now it’s not keeping them from playing well, so whatever.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 19, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Who was in his top 5?

How can you exclude the Magic? Their record is 2nd in the East and 3rd in the league. Orlando’s definitely over looked, but it doesn’t matter.

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by Wmillion on Feb 19, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

His top 5 was Cle, LA, Den, Utah, Dallas.

And he can exclude them because he’s almost worthless as an analyst. I think a big thing about this year is so many analysts who wrote off the Magic last year want nothing more than to point and say it was a fluke to justify their ignorance. Again, doesn’t matter, it’s just funny.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 19, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed.

Utah and Dallas?? Denver is debatable..

If we win the next two, it will all change.

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by Wmillion on Feb 19, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it won't.

By the way, Cleveland, Los Angeles, & Denver over Orlando is fine. But not Utah and Dallas.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 19, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

That’s what I was saying.. Clev. LA, and Denver..

I think Analyst will flip again, if we beat Dallas and Cleveland..

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by Wmillion on Feb 19, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

No one

But Barkley will pick Orl over Cle this year. The bad part is that it isn’t dissing Orlando to say that either, they have a better team, especially for the season. Let’s hope we still hold an edge come playoff basketball though.

by Eric9321 on Feb 19, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think we are much better if at all

than any of those teams. I think we should be ranked above them just for the sake of we have won more, but I think any of those 5 will be difficult for any of the other 5 regardless in a series. I can respect that this guy wants to give a boost to the Utah and Dallas rankings because they play in the west which is still considered a more difficult division to play in. I don’t agree, but I can see where he is coming from.

I still smile at rankings every time as I think of the preseason ranking where someone had Washington finishing ahead of the Magic. It still makes me chuckle…

by Eric9321 on Feb 19, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Eric Deveney of the Sporting News was the culprit there.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 19, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that makes sense...

Thats why the Magic have a better overall record than the Mavs. The Mavs are still the 3rd(at best) team in the West next to LA and Denver. I think Bass will get his true chance to play come Playoff time(Gortat also shines during the Playoffs), so we’ll see what the Dallas media says then.

by FamousAtticus on Feb 19, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think Bass will see many minutes in the playoffs.

Unless he improves his efforts on the defensive side of the ball, which I don’t foresee happening.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 19, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Tim Legler is a Celtics shill

and a Lakers & Cavs shill. Chris Broussard is the biggest Cavs shill in the media. Jon Barry = Lakers Schill. Kenny Smith = Cavs & Lakers shill.

It’s funny because it’s obvious they’re front runners yet they refuse to accept the Magic as a legit contender for whatever reasons. When the media brings up things like the Magic having never won a title before as valid reasoning for discarding them you can’t help but laugh at them.

Some good stats if you’re a non Cavs fan…. Jamison this month: 11 ppg on 28% FG & 14% 3-point. 14.3 FGA per game and 3.5 3-point attempts per game. Tiny sample size of only 4 games so far but still nice to know that they’re major piece was acquired during a slump and now will now have to adjust to a new system so the slump could easily continue.

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by Warlando on Feb 19, 2010 3:03 PM EST reply actions  

The Magic are tied in the rankings for 2nd best team in the league right now. People need to stop worrying about what the "Tim Legler's" of the world think.

Why does everyone need someone else to validate the Magic’s chances? The proof is in the pudding. Look at the numbers, not the talking heads. Right now Orlando has a one in six chance of winning the title. Cleveland and L.A. are barely above that. What does it matter if someone else thinks they aren’t contenders?

The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.

by ben_gleicher on Feb 19, 2010 5:32 PM EST reply actions  

Complain that the electronic ring at Amway never shows stats... Only bad part about going to a game.

Actually you can’t even complain because they’re no doubt fixing it in the new arena. Complain about Mickael Pietrus with that ridiculous mini fro.

The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.

by ben_gleicher on Feb 19, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

People need to stop worrying about frivolous things.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 19, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure the lack of respect from the media is frivolous

Rashard stated last season the doubteres helped fuel them to the Finals and he just reiterated it as posted in one of the recent blogs.

Life is a series of serious choices, theories are formed from experience, never mysterious forces. - stic.man
"I'm not impressed by your performance" - GSP

by Warlando on Feb 19, 2010 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

It's frivolous for fans to worry about something that they have almost no control over.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 19, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

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