Orlando Magic News for February 18th: No Trade for the Orlando Magic; Honoring Darrell Armstrong Tomorrow Night
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Denton: Magic Stand Pat at Trade Deadline
John Denton of OrlandoMagic.com writes that general manager Otis Smith stuck by his word when he said he liked his team and didn't see the need to acquire someone at the trade deadline.In Smith's eyes, the Magic made several big moves last summer by trading for Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson and signing Matt Barnes, Jason Williams and Brandon Bass in free agency. Those five new players surrounding the core of Dwight Howard, Rashard Lewis, Jameer Nelson, J.J. Redick and Marcin Gortat led Smith to believe that the Magic are good enough to win a championship. [...]
``We've made a lot of changes and I wasn't going to make more of them just for the sake of making changes. Just trying to keep up with the Jones so to speak, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense,'' said Smith, the architect of last season's NBA Finalist squad. ``We still need time to gel and allow guys time to play better and play together. It just takes time.
``I think we do have enough to compete for a title. When you start talk about building teams, it's not always about having the most talent at every position 1 through 13,'' Smith continued. ``Guys have to buy into their roles and your best players have to be the best players. I think we have enough depth and talent to get it done.'' -
Prospectus Hoops List: Post-All Star Edition
Bradford Doolittle of Basketball Prospectus notes the re-emergence of Dwight Howard the past month or so.The Magic seem to have re-discovered that it has a pretty dominant big man down on the blocks. Orlando had some periodic trouble getting Dwight Howard enough touches, but that hasn't been a problem over the last month. Howard is coming off his best game of the season, with 33 points, 17 boards and seven blocks Wednesday against Detroit.
More after the jump.
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Lewis on Cavs trade: "It doesn't scare me."
John Krolik of ProBasketballTalk chimes in on Rashard Lewis' comments about the Jamison trade. -
The Magic React to Cavs' Jamison Acquisition
Eric Freeman of The Baseline is confused by Lewis' take on the move.I'll confess that I don't fully understand Lewis's comments about a single player not winning games -- it's almost like he's trying to say that the Cavs aren't a juggernaut, but then he mentions LeBron James as the second player on the team as if he's not clearly the best player on the planet. SVG seems a little more concerned, making it clear that Cleveland is going to be pretty tough to defend.
The important thing for the Magic and their fans to remember is that they didn't make a trade for a reason. That roster is loaded on paper, a veritable treasure trove of talented scorers, shooters, and big men. Their trade deadline acquisition needs to be better team cohesion and on-court chemistry, not an extra player who would only make things even more complicated than they already are. - Via the Orlando Magic:
As part of the Orlando Magic’s "Commitment to the Past," fan-favorite guard Darrell Armstrong will be honored by the organization when the Magic host Dallas on Friday, Feb. 19 at Amway Arena. Game time is 8 p.m.
Undrafted by any NBA franchise, Armstrong was originally signed as a free agent by Orlando on Apr. 8, 1995. He went on to play 502 regular season games during nine seasons with the Magic, averaging 11.7 ppg., 5.1 apg. and 1.65 stlpg.
Armstrong ranks among the franchise’s all-time leaders in almost every single category, including games played (3rd, 502), points (8th, 5,898), assists (3rd, 2,555), steals (2nd, 830), three-point field goals made (3rd, 654) and three-point field goals attempted (3rd, 1,892).
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Im struggling to understand Otis. He always does the opposite of what he says! This is the first time he’s said something.. and actually did it… :P
when has he not done what he said he was going to do?
last year’s trade was out of necessity due to jameer’s injury. if he hadn’t hurt his shoulder then we never would have traded for alston.
i don't recall him ever saying he wouldn't do any of those things
tyronn lue wasn’t going to get it done and that was painfully obvious after a couple games. he never said he would resign turk, and i am absolutely sure he never said he would not match an offer for gortat.
maybe people THOUGHT he wouldn’t do those things/not do those things, but he never came straight out and said anything to the contrary of what he has done.
Im pretty sure he said he wasn’t going to match Gortat if it was around 4mil+/MLE, like 99.9% sure. He never said he was done with just getting Lue, but no one saw Alston coming in as the last deal in after the deadline, and no one saw VC and Ryan coming in. Normally a GM leaves indications he’s looking at stuff out there, and Otis left no such indications at all in those instances, so I suppose I could mean more as that Otis is very “sneaky.” Also, Im pretty sure when Otis said that the Magic have the luxury tax greenlight, that resigning Turk was very likely, everyone assumed it until the unexpected deal for VC came thru.
I said the original quote mainly as a little joke, but the truth is Otis is a very in-house GM who doesn’t let much information or trade thinking get out. Which is brilliant really, I think its a strategic advantage in most cases. The only negative is the poor media and fans who have trouble finding anything to read in terms of the trade front, which is nothing if the Magic end up getting whoever it is they wanted.
I've learned, when I've spoken with Otis, that he likes to play things close to the vest.
I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Question: Are we going to have another Trivia Contest for tickets to the Cavs game on Sunday?
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
Otis please...I hope your decision to stand pat this trading deadline has something to do
with bringing Dwyane Wade to the 407 and in Orlando Magic blue.
"VC does NOT deserve to be winning with Orlando while Courtney Lee is a "loser" with NJ" -Magic12ball
no matter what Otis has been saying
come summer you know that HE JUST HAS TO look into acquiring Wade somehow. Wade has already basically said, “I want to play with Dwight Howard”, and “if there’s any way you can get he and I on the same team, Im totally down for it”
"VC does NOT deserve to be winning with Orlando while Courtney Lee is a "loser" with NJ" -Magic12ball
=)
We have to see how Miami does in the summer, it looks like they wanted to go ahead with either Amare or Booz right now but struck out with both with what seemed like poor offers. Maybe they think they can sign them outright anyways, but its risky.
On the other side, should Magic strike out with Wade, I think a playoff run and a whole summer off will have given VC that break and level of chemistry he has grown with the Magic that pretty much no one can come in and replicate tho, so Im also down for VC staying and the Magic doing relatively nothing.
I appreciate your optimism but remember
VCs career clock is ticking, he’s already 33.
"VC does NOT deserve to be winning with Orlando while Courtney Lee is a "loser" with NJ" -Magic12ball
I'm more than certain Otis will look to find a younger replacement for Vince.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
i'm sure he'd love to add d-wade but i see no possible way for that to happen
unless pat riley falls in love with vince carter somehow
theres gotta be SOME WAY, I just cant believe that theres no way at all.
Even w/o Rilez consent. If Otis wants Wade he’ll find a way. Wade is worth exploring every possible scenario.
"VC does NOT deserve to be winning with Orlando while Courtney Lee is a "loser" with NJ" -Magic12ball
There's almost no way.
Unless Wade forced his hand, Pat Riley isn’t trading his franchise player to his divisional/in-state rival and set them up for a dynasty for the next five years. This isn’t NBA 2K10.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
hahahhahahaha!!!
NBA 2k11, Dwyane Wade on the cover with a Magic jersey.
"VC does NOT deserve to be winning with Orlando while Courtney Lee is a "loser" with NJ" -Magic12ball
by magic12ball on Feb 19, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
oh trust me, if this was 2k10
Wade wouldve been on this team years ago like 2K6 at least LOL.
"VC does NOT deserve to be winning with Orlando while Courtney Lee is a "loser" with NJ" -Magic12ball
by magic12ball on Feb 19, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Wade would be great but I would rather see Bosh this summer. That will happen when there is a snow ball fight in the arena. It is hard to imagine Wade, Carter. Bosh, Howard and Lewis. Ain’t gonna happen. I would like to see Bosh with a Magic uniform.
exactly..
PF is done. Lewis isn’t going in anywhere..
Wade far and a way, Is the best move..
FEED THE BEAST!!!
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Lewis is untradable.
Until his contract becomes an expiring one, at the very least.
I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I think about this once in awhile. Who would ultimately (and theoretically) be better in Orlando with Dwight? Wade or Bosh. I think the more obvious answer is Wade. The Magic don’t have to change their system and Wade and Dwight play in their own zones. But I can’t stop thinking about how dangerous would the Magic be defensively and offensively with a Bosh, Dwight duo down low always. Aint gonna happen is pretty accurate guess of either scenario tho, like you said.
Wade and Dwight.
Pairing a perimeter talent like Wade with Dwight would be too much for defenses. The pick-and-roll would be absolutely deadly with Wade’s passing and slashing. Plus Wade is a great perimeter defender.
I hate Varejao.
Bosh isn't joining the Magic.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
You're just going to drive yourself crazy
Thinking about that.
It’ll never happen. He’s going to the Clippers.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 18, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
The odds of Wade coming to the Magic are 10%, at best.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
This mega free agent speculation is way tooooo funny!
Remember 2000 when the Magic had cap for 2 maximum contract players and we got Hill and McGrady. That sure brought us a lot of championships. Well, maybe not. We did see our ticket prices go up though. Wade is definitely a talent. I’m starting to get concerned about his injury rate though at this stage of his career.
There were a number of reasons why Hill and McGrady didn't work out.
Part of it was Hill getting hurt, obviously, but that wasn’t all.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Cavs lose, Cavs lose...
…though I was actually hoping they’d still have their winning streak in tact coming to town on Sunday so I could be there to witness the end of the streak. Oh well, maybe I’ll see them lose the 2nd in 3 or 3 in a row? What a game though. Melo guarding LeBron, LeBron guarding Melo…Melo goes for 40/7/6 and LeBron goes for 43/15/13!! Somehow LeBron gets a -5 + / – with that line…lol
NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!
we should have traded b.bass/gortat/trade exception for Staudemire
by Vanek on Feb 18, 2010 10:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
then we only got Foyle as backup to Dwight.
We’ll be crushed.
Just about every other team could have made a better offer.
by Evan Dunlap on Feb 18, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Lakers? The Magic have to worry about getting past the Cavaliers, among other teams.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
You can't package a trade exception with players
It has to be a straight swap – the exception for one guy. So we’d have to trade the exception to a third team, then trade the player from that deal to the Suns – and we’d be left without a competant backup centre, so we’d need to package another guy into the deal somehow…which would mean giving up another player, plus we’d then have around $35m tied up at the PF position and a player who doesn’t suit our playing style.
So, er, I respectfully disagree…we should definitely not have done that, even if the Suns would have.
by eltharion_doa on Feb 18, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
You can't combine the trade exception with players.
I hate Varejao.
amare can back d12 up are you crazy
he is much better than gortat
No offense, but your idea makes no sense.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
I dont take offense, i didnt realize a lot of the points that countered this idea
i just was trying to think of a way for us to upgrade, I thought the cavs were going to be unbeatable after getting jamison, dont get me wrong they looked like their unbelievablle selfs, but i think that james already demands so much of the ball and they run a lot through shaq, so i think if we continue to gel as we have been , we should be fine
oh damn, i just realized Jamison didnt even play last night
Maybe they are that scary of a team then
I don't think Cleveland is unbeatable, just tougher to beat.
Even without making a trade, the Magic do have the talent to overcome the Cavaliers.
I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.
"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Is anybody tracking B. Bass during practice?
I hope he’s making improvements on Defense during practice, so he can get his minutes. We can definitely use him to counter Flappajao/Hickson/POWE when they’re bullying Shard. He can learn a thing or two from Dwight :P
This is a really good question. Because we obviously want to see more of him out there, but also because Gortat seemed to be one of those guys who really improved thru predominantly practicing with the Magic in his beginning (Dwight and Foyle are good for sparring always, hopefully Bass is going thru that now too).
I, for one, don't want to see more of him right now.
Not until he understands the concept of defensive rotations better, at least.
I hate Varejao.
I don't want to see him anyway.
I like Ryan. Can’t we just play Ryan?
It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...
If I was back in Orlando, I'd track him.
But that being said, it’s clear (when he does play) that he hasn’t been improving on defense.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
Practice isn't open to the media. When they let us in, most of the players have left the floor. A few guys will stay back and work individually. But we don't see scrimmages or anything.
When I went to shootaround in December, Bass stayed back to work on his post moves and his mid-range jumper. Dwight shot free throws. J.J. and A.J. did shooting drills. Everyone else had already bailed.

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