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What They're Saying About Antawn Jamison Being Traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers

Normally this move wouldn't be posted at OPP, but given that a player (Antawn Jamison) was traded to a conference rival (Cleveland Cavaliers), it bears relevance to the Orlando Magic

  • Rashard Lewis on Cleveland trading for Antawn Jamison: "It doesn't scare me"
    Rashard Lewis chimes in on Jamison joining the Cavaliers.

    The Magic player that will most feel the impact of Antawn Jamison’s addition to the Cleveland Cavaliers will be power forward Rashard Lewis.

    Jamison has caused Lewis problems on occasion. So what does Lewis think about the trade?

    "It doesn’t scare me," Lewis said. "I’ve been on all star teams as well as him. I think it’s going to come down to who executes better on the defensive end. Most definitely a great player. … At the same time one guy doesn’t win ballgames. They do have another guy called LeBron James which is going to be our focus."

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  • Antawn Jamison makes Cleveland Cavaliers title favorites
    Ian Thomsen of Sports Illustrated states that Cleveland is the team to beat after making the trade.

    The Cleveland Cavaliers have become title favorites Wednesday after acquiring two-time All-Star Antawn Jamison for -- potentially -- very little. [...]

    Two things stand out about this trade. First was that Cleveland was in the driver's seat -- the Cavs and the Mavericks being the only contenders willing to take on longterm contracts -- and that general manager Danny Ferry executed the turns perfectly. He was able to leverage interest in Phoenix's Amare Stoudemire in order to drive down the price on Jamison, who was viewed by many rivals as the best possible fit for Cleveland.
  • Jamison-to-Cleveland becomes official
    Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don't Lie, in my eyes, nails it with his assessment of the acquisition.

    To start, though I've been begging for this deal for a while, the idea that the Cavaliers could have picked up Amar'e Stoudemire for close to the same package is a little unnerving. Antawn Jamison is a fine player, he stretches the defense, can rebound, can stay out of the way, and he rarely turns the ball over. But Stoudemire is an offensive powerhouse, the leading scorer on the league's best offense, and someone who could run a devastating pick and roll combination with LeBron James for years. [...]

    In all, a sound deal for all parties at the moment. I worry about Antawn Jamison making over $15 million two years from now, and I worry (as always) about going the safe route. Jamison could mean a championship this year, but Stoudemire could have meant a dynasty.
  • Transaction Analysis: Jamison to Cleveland
    Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus analyzes the deal.  

    Count me among those who think Jamison is a better fit for Cleveland than Stoudemire, based on the reasons I went into in scouting the two players earlier this week. Jamison is a much better partner for Cavaliers sixth man Anderson Varejao, and while I don't think Stoudemire and Shaquille O'Neal are incapable of playing together, neither do I think they are as potent as a duo as Jamison and O'Neal because of Jamison's superior range.

    In terms of winning a championship this year, I think Jamison was Cleveland's best bet. If and when Ilgauskas returns (he'd have to sit out at least 30 days if he decides to re-sign), the Cavaliers will be incredibly deep in the frontcourt, where it's tough to imagine quality players like J.J. Hickson or Leon Powe seeing any playing time at this point. The big thing Cleveland has now done is given Mike Brown the ability to match up with almost any kind of lineup. The Cavaliers already were built to combat the size of the Celtics in the frontcourt, and O'Neal has been effective against Dwight Howard and the Magic. Even if you're dubious of using him strictly on the perimeter on offense, Jamison's versatility will be a major help in matching up with other stretch fours like Orlando's Rashard Lewis and the Lakers' Lamar Odom.
  • Cavs' Ferry Hits a Home Run With Jamison Trade
    Matt Moore of NBA FanHouse thinks general manager Danny Ferry made the right move.

    There are plenty of reasons to try and manage expectations on this trade. Statistically, as HoopData.com extrapolated on, Amar'e Stoudemire was the logical choice. And with Jamison's age and contract, if this deal does not do what it's built to do, it will be considered one of the biggest failed gambits of all time. But all of that is over-thinking it. 20.5 points, 8.8 rebounds, and that doesn't begin to consider the overall ability of Jamison. Jamison's strength extends from knowing how to work in an offense to what could be a high proficiency in Mike Brown's man-help defensive system. Jamison's defense has never been the stuff of legend, but the Cavs' system is such that it can cover a player's man-up deficiencies.

    Jamison is also a locker-room leader, a true professional, and a player the Cavs notoriously stagnant offense desperately needs. Jamison can shoulder the load for James and work with him in the pick and roll. The pick and roll possibilities with Jamison-James with Shaq for cleanup is positively devastating. The news only gets better if the Cavs are able to re-sign Zydrunas Ilgauskas following a buyout, which is expected to happen.
  • Amare or Antawn? It's an easy choice.
    Tom Haberstroh of Hoopdata believes Amar'e Stoudemire would have been the better option.

    Stoudemire's clearly the superior offensive option from an efficiency standpoint, besting Jamison in every area inside the 3-point line. Even for a power forward, Jamison has a really poor mid-range game. He easily has the worst conversion rate on long twos among the the power forwards that feature that weapon consistently, tarnishing his reputation as an asset shooter. Although, he still can show that delicate touch around the basket that made him a dream to watch in his early years. From an efficiency standpoint, I prefer Stoudemire hands down. But of course, things aren't always that simple. [...]

    In the end, I don't see any reason for the Cavs to gamble on Antawn Jamison but I see a lot of promise in swinging a deal for Stoudemire. Contracts and financials aside, I would much rather have Stoudemire working the pick and roll and terrorizing the basket rather than hoping Jamison suddenly turns into a sharpshooter. The Cavs cannot afford to risk allowing Jamison to take a handful of low-percentage shots per game just because he looks like a shooter. As much as the Cavs might believe they're a big piece or two away from winning the title, I think it's more accurate to believe they were always just a bounce or two away. I can see how Stoudemire makes sense if they do want to add that piece, send a message to the fans, and give LeBron a serious low-post threat, but I cannot stamp my approval on a trade for Jamison. There's too much at stake for the franchise to bank on a player like Jamison to help bring home that elusive title to Cleveland.
  • NBA trade deadline: Grading the deals
    John Hollinger of ESPN Insider states his opinion.

    I like Jamison for Cleveland better than the primary alternative, Phoenix's Amare Stoudemire, for a few reasons. First, he makes less money, and there isn't the issue with his potentially leaving after the season. Second, he's a more natural "stretch 4" than Stoudemire, and that's the one area in which the Cavs were most lacking.

    I've had a couple of people tell me Jamison is a low-efficiency offensive player, but that's just not true. His shooting percentages are only average, but what these folks miss is his minuscule turnover rate -- his mark is half that of Stoudemire's, for instance.

    Jamison gets most of his points without dribbling or isolating one-on-one -- most of his points come in the flow. On a team for which LeBron James, a gifted passer, is doing most of the work with the ball, Jamison's ability to make a quick cut that generates a shot should prove valuable. The last time he was in a similar situation, playing with Steve Nash in Dallas, he shot 53.5 percent from the field, posted his career high in PER and won the Sixth Man of the Year award.
  • Magic Must Adapt to New-Look Cavs
    Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse thinks the Cavaliers acquired Jamison with the Magic in mind.

    Veteran forward Antawn Jamison going to Cleveland was done with an eye on the Magic, who beat the Cavaliers last spring in the Eastern Conference final. They still present the biggest obstacle standing in front of a Lakers/Cavs NBA Finals.

    The Magic, who are likely again to see the Cavs at playoff time, now must prepare for a team with more versatility and a power forward much like the Magic have in Rashard Lewis. [...]

    "This takes them to another level. They already have the best player in the world, but now they have another go-to guy,'' said Magic forward Matt Barnes. "It allows them to stretch the floor. They got better, but we'll see. It takes time to work a new guy into the lineup.''

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Luckily we seem to play better the less everyone expects us to win. I have to admit I was a little worried first hearing about this, but the team seems to be gelling lately and Dwight is still improving (and there still isn’t an answer for him besides flopping). All I can say is I can’t wait because it should a pretty epic series, and really that’s what its all about. Also hopefully ye ’ole Celts tire them out a bit for us if we can hang on to the 2nd seed and they fall to 4.

by BlueSkyOneCloud on Feb 18, 2010 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't count too much on them getting tired out.

Last year the Magic had gone through two grueling series against Philly and Boston before facing a Cavs team that had no resistance and plenty of time to rest. The outcome of that series was obviously not what was expected.

The intensity has to go up, up! Not down...UP! -Stan Van Gundy

by cgsimone on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

You’re right we shouldn’t count on it. Although I wouldn’t mind the Cavs having to take a slightly more difficult road than last year. It’s not so much about if they can’t win being slightly more tired, but it can’t hurt. I’m not sure how accurate this is, but it seems like we would be one of the more well conditioned teams considering how Stan runs his practices. I dunno, I suppose I’m just looking for something positive to take from all this haha.

by BlueSkyOneCloud on Feb 18, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't get too ahead of ourselves.

Cleveland and Orlando has the potential to be an epic series but there’s work that needs to be done.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 18, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm waiting to see:

“Cleveland acquires Rodney Stuckey, Rip Hamilton, and Kwame Brown for Sebastian Telfair, JaMario Moon, a conditional future 1st round pick, and cash”.

I know, salaries don’t match, I’m just upset.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 18, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

Now all they have to do is sign Jeff Van Gundy to replace Mike Brown...

Jesus Last May Mind F*Cked that front office….

John Denton eluded to it.

We are in their heads.

"Who wants to buy some DVD's?"~Big Z

by BS Patrol on Feb 18, 2010 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

IN reference to Dwyers article

Amare would have been long term misery

but they NEEDED someone to guard Lewis…

"Who wants to buy some DVD's?"~Big Z

by BS Patrol on Feb 18, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

crap, Long term misery for the rest of the NBA not the Cavs

Sorry Alien vs predator came out last night and I am tired.

and can’t articulate thought without 3 posts.

my bad

"Who wants to buy some DVD's?"~Big Z

by BS Patrol on Feb 18, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I need to see the Cavs in action.

The Cavs are a very good team. I think, when you have a very good team, its very hard to improve. There are only so many moves you can make to make a good team a great team (ie- the Yankees payroll and talent but not winning a world series until last year). They might be better at the four but they lost all of Z’s fouls on Howard.
I don’t think Shaq “I want to be called Superman again because Dwight stole my nickname” O’Neal can handle Dwight for an entire game. And that big haired freak… Howard would crush him. Their guards are still undersized and streaky. That’s a big deal in the playoffs. It’s really gonna come down to who is hotter in the playoffs. The Magic don’t have the huge “Hedo edge” anymore. But I think we are similarly matched up.

It’s not a step back. But a lateral move. I don’t see them being a dynasty. Too many loose ends. Too much hype.

by The Stan 'Stache on Feb 18, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

Z may come back to the Cavaliers, though it's no guarantee.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 18, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

A trade that actually makes sense now...

Houston just gained Kevin martin and lost Carl Landry:

Shane Battier for Brandon Bass (and pieces to make salaries match).

Battier can guard LeBron better than Peaches or Barnes. HOU replaces Landry with Bass. battier is now expendable since HOU already has Ariza and now Martin.

Nelson, Carter, Battier, Lewis, Howard

BOOM! Make it happen Otis.

by TragicMatt on Feb 18, 2010 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

pieces to make salaries match...

what kinda pieces are you thinking? and what’s needed to make that work? I like the end result especially if Carter’s starting to become a consistent performer

by QBallWhitey on Feb 18, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I see three pieces:

1) AJ
2) Foyle
3) Turk’s TPE (would have to involve multiple trades)

Probably Bass + AJ for Battier. Works on ESPN’s trade machine, although I thought Bass was BYC.

by TragicMatt on Feb 18, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Gortat is BYC, not Bass.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 18, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

ah..

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4924836

Rockets got Jordan Hill and Jefferies. They don’t need Bass.

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by Wmillion on Feb 18, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Bass is far more polished than Hill.

Bass can start. Hill cannot.

Moot point now though.

by TragicMatt on Feb 18, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes he is..

I wasn’t comparing value, I was comparing need. They don’t need Bass.

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by Wmillion on Feb 18, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The Rockets would never trade Battier, unless it was for Howard.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 18, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

re: Howard/Shaq

I really think the Magic are holding back a little on going to Howard against the Cavs. It may cost them a regular-season game or two, but they’re playing for the big picture, so they’re not showing their hand just yet. The less Cleveland knows that Howard can take on Shaq in the post, the more they’ll have to scramble to deal with it in the playoffs.

Of course, this could just be me overestimating Howard.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Feb 18, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions  

A Jamison

Doubling Shaq will be much tougher now. It worked well in our last meeting, now you can’t leave Jamison to double down on Shaquilla.

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by Wmillion on Feb 18, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't say doubling Shaq worked well.

Hickson and Varejao went off.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 18, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

playing the % says that doesn't happen again.

They were making shots they don’t normally make,but it is mute now. You can’t leave A Jams.

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by Wmillion on Feb 18, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The percentages theory applies to Varejao.

Hickson was getting dunks left and right.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 18, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was the right call.

But the rotations and spacing need to be a lot better. Giving them open jump shots is one thing. Giving them a wide open lane to cut through and have LeBron hit them on those cuts is another.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 19, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't SVG abandon the double-team approach in the 2nd half? Or am I remembering it incorrectly?

If I recall, the combo of Hickson and Flopajao scored a combined 4 pts in the 2nd half after SVG made his adjustments.

NBA Championship or bust in '09-10!!!! GO MAGIC!!!!

by malars on Feb 18, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't remember.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 19, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe his exact words were

“I’m not impressed”.

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"I'm not impressed by your performance" - GSP

by Warlando on Feb 18, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

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