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Cleveland Cavaliers 115, Orlando Magic 106

In the final game for both squads before All-Star weekend in Dallas, the Cleveland Cavaliers - owners of the best record in the league at 43-11 - defeated the Orlando Magic by the score of 115-106. The Cavaliers were led by LeBron James, who had 32 points (10-12 FG, 2-6 3PT, 10-12 FT), 8 rebounds, 13 assists, and 2 steals, showing why he is the prohibitive favorite to win a second-consecutive NBA Most Valuable Player Award by the end of the regular season. Power forwards J.J. Hickson and Anderson Varejao chipped in with efficient performances by accumulating point totals of 20 (9-14 FG) and 16 (8-11 FG), respectively. Balance was the name of the game for the Magic, playing on a back-to-back and its fourth game in five days, as five players scored in double-figures with Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis pacing the group. Howard had 19 points (6-9 FG, 7-10 FT), 11 rebounds, and 2 blocks, while Lewis had 19 points (6-14 FG, 3-9 3PT, 4-6 FT). It was a well-played game by a pair of Eastern Conference juggernauts, but James was too good down the stretch and Orlando ultimately fell short in its effort to snap Cleveland's 12-game (now 13) winning streak.

 

Star-divide

TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Magic 90 118.2 54.7% 32.0 21.6 12.8
Cavaliers 90 128.3 57.7% 21.4 28.2 5.9
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

In what has been a pattern for the Cavaliers all season, but even more so lately, the team got off to a quick start against an opponent in the first quarter. For the year, Cleveland leads the NBA with 28.6 first quarter points per game. In the Cavaliers' last five games, the team is averaging 34.6 first quarter points per game (not adjusting for pace). So, it's no surprise that Cleveland scored 37 points in the opening frame against Orlando. But given the history between the Cavaliers and the Magic in the 2009 Eastern Conference Finals, it's really no surprise. Cleveland has made a habit of amassing sizable leads against Orlando at Quicken Loans Arena in the last few meetings between the two elite teams, dating back to the playoffs this past season. However, the Magic always find ways to make up the deficit. 

 

Last night was no different for Orlando.

 

Hickson and James got things going for the Cavaliers in the first quarter, scoring 28 of the team's 37 points and doing it with ease. In Hickson's case, he was able to get a few dunks (four in total) and easy buckets without much resistance because Shaquille O'Neal was being double-teamed by Lewis. Other times, the Magic just didn't care to defend Hickson. As for James, he connected on a few jumpers here and there but did most of his damage at the free-throw line because he was being aggressive and attacking the basket. 

 

Cleveland was rockin' and rollin' heading into the second quarter with a 14-point lead but the lead evaporated as Orlando, led by a combination of starters and reserves, started to make threes. Six of them, to be exact. That was the reason why the Magic were able to come back in the game during the period because the Cavaliers, on the other hand, did not attempt nor make a three-point shot in the quarter. Although Cleveland scored 29 points in the period - Varejao accounted for 14 of them by making shots left and right - and did it without much help from James as he seemed content to defer to his teammates, Orlando scored 40 points to cut the deficit to three at halftime. From then, it was game on.

 

In the third quarter, the Magic were able to take its first lead of the game at 69-68 on a layup from Lewis. The offense was clicking, the defense was tightening up, and it seemed like Orlando was taking control as it was able to extend the margin to five. With roughly six and a half minutes to go, however, James was able to draw Howard's fourth foul and force head coach Stan Van Gundy to make a decision. It was nearly the same exact choice that Van Gundy had to make when the Magic played the Boston Celtics on Sunday. Either leave Howard in and run the risk of him picking up his fifth foul or take him out and choosing to play it safe. Against the Celtics, Van Gundy gambled and let Howard stay on the court (a move that paid off) but against the Cavaliers, he elected for the other option. Perhaps what influenced Van Gundy's decision was the fact that Orlando was trailing by six versus Boston, as opposed to leading by five versus Cleveland. 

 

Who knows.

 

One thing is for sure, it was a decision that Van Gundy regretted making after the game was over.

 

With Howard on the bench, the Magic's offense stagnated the remainder of the quarter. As such, the Cavaliers were able to reclaim the lead and finish the period up by four. 

 

Orlando made a brief comeback in the fourth quarter, had a two-point lead with roughly six minutes to go, and were in a position to win. But the Magic, then, attempted too many jumpshots and neglected to play inside-out (practically the same way the team lost to the Los Angeles Lakers roughly a month ago) after a Howard hook shot allowed the team to take a 96-94 lead. Here's the play-by-play data:

 

FOURTH QUARTER

- [6:56] Mickael Pietrus misses three-point 26' jump shot 

- [6:39] Jameer Nelson bad pass

- [5:56] Jameer Nelson misses layup

- [5:20] Dwight Howard turnover

- [4:50] Rashard Lewis misses three-point 23' jump shot

- [4:03] Jameer Nelson misses shot

- [3:34] Jameer Nelson misses three-point 23' jump shot

- [3:04] Vince Carter misses 8' jump shot

 

Not good. Oh, and James decided to take over.

 

Yes, he sparked the game-clinching 11-0 run that decided the game for Cleveland but James was dominant throughout the period, assisting or scoring on 20 of the team's 28 points and making ridiculous shots despite textbook defense from Mickael Pietrus. That's why he's "King James" ... seriously. 

 

All in all, a tough loss but one that Orlando can learn from. 

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Nice post

I also read that SVG took responsibility for the fact that D12 didn’t get more touches in the 4rth. At least it’s clear that magic can beat them.

some times I imagine this team with VC & J-Will at their prime...

by 44792212 on Feb 12, 2010 5:56 AM EST reply actions  

Yes.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Do who made this schedule?

Ridiculous, if you ask me.

by i2ambler on Feb 13, 2010 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The NBA.

It’s not a conspiracy or anything.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 13, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 13, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It was 96-96 when Vince came back in the game

Cleveland then went on a 16-2 run until the last minute of play when the Magic made a couple of meaningless buckets. Vince was -21 for the game. I know sometimes that stat is misleading but tonight it was obvious. Lazy defense, bad shot selection. I know February has been better but last night Stan should have stuck with what was working and left J.J. in.

And I didn’t even mention Jameer and his -11….

by Colossus57 on Feb 12, 2010 7:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

It wasn't Carter's fault that the Magic lost the game.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Lazy defense???? look at Anthony Parker's line. Give me a break.

Who went off in this game? Varejao and Hickson. Who guards them?

The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.

by ben_gleicher on Feb 12, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

1) Jameer couldve played vastly better,missed shots, like two key turnovers. I dont understand not playing J Will down the stretch when he already has in so many games. J Will’s defense was the only reason I could think of for him not coming back, but that’s why there’s adjusted help D if there’s paint penetration.
2) I don’t mind letting Varejao/Hickson score those points, they weren’t consistently producing as they were earlier in the game, only if the Magic could have somehow stopped a few of those ridiculously easy dunking cuts they kept having.
3) Feed the beast!! Stay out of foul trouble at all costs!!
4) The Magic must do a better job of D on this CLE team, I can’t believe they let CLE shooters so open like that. They evened out the Magic’s 3PM’s in a single stretch, and all I kept thinking was why so open everytime? What happened to that winning strategy of stopping all of CLE outside of LBJ and making him do all the work.

by derekk on Feb 12, 2010 8:12 AM EST reply actions  

hate to pile on jameer but...

i don’t know if i’ve seen him make a series of bad decisions quite like those 5 possessions in a row down the stretch. that layup attempt was straight-up embarrassing. its frustrating when he gives his critics more ammo but that was inexcusable.

by Snyde on Feb 12, 2010 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

Who had 4 for 14, who had 5 assist and 4 turn overs, who missed 4 shots in a row with one of those shots Ray Charles could have made (lay up), who would not throw the ball to JJ and who was the other person that left him in the ball game? Who had 4 for 4 and who had 3 for 3? I wonder what the score would have been if they shot 14 times. Who lost that ball game, coach or player? Think about it. Who should we trade? That fourth quarter just added to my dislike for you know who.

by far-way on Feb 12, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, one bad quarter after playing solid ball for a while means we trade him.

You fail to mention the fact that there was no ball or player movement from anyone on the Magic after we took that 2 point lead. Jameer is certainly to blame for his mistakes, but you’re way off in that he was the reason we lost. Get some perspective.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, can’t ever blame just one guy.

by derekk on Feb 12, 2010 11:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I guess I was wrong 4 for 14 is great and he helped us win. SVG was the real problem by leaving him in. If the guy has a bad knee then put his butt on the bench until he gets well. It didn’t work in the finals and it is not going to work now. I have never been a Meer fan and I guess never will. Jwill out plays him night in and night out. Oh I forgot he can really dribble. OK, did I forget anything else. Did I get some perspective?

by far-way on Feb 12, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

No one said he was great last night.

Don’t put words in my mouth. Williams does not out play him “night in and night out”. He has out-played him on several occasions, it’s a great luxury to have a solid back-up who can step in and produce. Did you forget the night before where Jameer ran the offense in the first quarter that abused a good defensive team to the tune of 41 points??? Did you forget the night before that where he had 10 assists to only 2 TO’s? Did you forget the first half of last night’s game where he had 9 points and 3 assists? Yes, you did. Because you have no perspective.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t lose the ball game. Did you forget the other night where a rookie ate his lunch? Enough I don’t want to attack you and your thoughts. I thought that I was talking about the game. You will not change mine so get over it and have a great game.

by far-way on Feb 12, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

i agree

jameer sucks!!! cant play d and a ball hugger.

in OTIS we TRUST...

by Hbkid on Feb 12, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

ya, jameer sucks.............lets trade him for Chris Paul

while we’re at it, lets trade Vince for Brandon Roy

we might be a good team if all that happens.

/sarcasm

Never trust a fart

by AB's triple double on Feb 12, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the way you think.

Let’s get Otis on the horn pronto!

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

All the negativity on here regarding Jameer is a serious overreaction

Of course, Nelson’s critics fail to mention how well he played the previous two games.

All the negativity is really getting old.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Feb 12, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

This what you get out of solid role player.

Jameer’s isn’t a special player/All-Star level player.

What I expect from Jameer on a 10 game basis-
1-Great game
2-Good games
5-average games
2-bad games

FEED THE BEAST!!!
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by Wmillion on Feb 12, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It's laughable.

But I knew once the game was over that this was going to happen. Look, Nelson didn’t have a good game last night but he wasn’t the only one. As I’ve always said, the Magic win as a team and lose as a team. Want to criticize Jameer? Fine, but do it constructively. Saying “he sucks, let’s trade him” doesn’t do ANYTHING to advance the discussion. Nothing.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm... how about

Jameer Nelson’s performance is often inferior to that of opposing teams players at that particular position. Perhaps Orlando should explore personnel options that involve Mr. Nelson becoming an employee of a outside entity, resulting in Orlando receiving another employee to fill Jameer’s position in the organization. I find this possibility to be beneficial to Orlando’s short and long term organizational goals.

Oh and I’d love a PG who can pass.

by cambi1 on Feb 12, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

He can pass. Really.

20th in Pure Point Rating, ahead of guys renowned for their playmaking skills such as Tony Parker, Ray Felton, earl Watson, Kirk Hinrich, Hedo Turkoglu, and Dwyane Wade.

by Evan Dunlap on Feb 12, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

OK but

While I was mostly mocking the “Jameer sucks” comments- and I wont sit here and challenge you on stats, every time I check his AST/TO ratio it is average at best, below average more often than it should be. And forget stats, just from you’re perspective, how often does he facilitate fast breaks/ throw alley oops to what should be the best finisher of alley-oops in the game (yet is on the receiving end of far too many) or simply feed the post effectively? I saw him on a 3 on 1 last night, and while this is not an exact recollection, I believe while running this 3 on 1, Jameer deficated on himself, then found a wide open waitress in the 3rd row on a lookaway pass. And I would hope on a potential finals’ team, our PG was at least 20th in Pure pt Rat, if not much higher.

by cambi1 on Feb 12, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Did someone say ball hugger?

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Feb 12, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

LOL Dark.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Feb 12, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Coach's Decision; DNP

Let’s see, Magic is down by 7 with 3:46 to go in the 4th. SVG whom I think is a great coach decides to continue with the lineup of Dwight, Rashard, Meer “let me dribble the ball at the top of the key until the defense is really set up then either take a bad shot or pass to someone else to take a dumb or rushed shot”, VC “I did have one really good game, a few decent games, and a bunch of lousy games” which by the was, last night fit into the later category, and Michael “one good shot, one bone head play” Pietris, who was heard asking the coach, “say we didn’t we have some success last year in the playoffs double teaming Lebron in the 4th quarter?”. I am at a loss why the lineup of Dwight, Rashard, J-will, JJ and Barnes wasn’t in there in the closing few.

by WhiteMenCantJump on Feb 12, 2010 8:48 AM EST reply actions  

That combination you suggested would have been picked apart defensively.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I 110% agree on this one..."Neglecting to play inside out..."

I know they love jacking those 3s and I know this may sound easier said than done but not sure why they always abandon the inside out play even though they’re doing well on that. They had a good chance keeping the score close and pulling out a come back last night if not for those last few silly plays that enabled the Cavs to take over again.

by jax502 on Feb 12, 2010 8:55 AM EST reply actions  

No comeback was needed -- they were up 96-94 at the start of that sequence in the post.

Also, when Dwight went out, the threes were no longer available — I thin they shot one bad VC three in the 3rd after Dwight picked up his 5th.

by CaliFlorida on Feb 12, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

When Howard was out in the third quarter, the offense sputtered.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

No ball movement!

In the critical moments of the game, there was absolutely no ball movement what-so-ever. I also 100000000% agree that you gotta feed Dwight and start from there. Maybe they didn’t have enough juice since they’re on the tail end of a back 2 back. We did at least hang with them but those early deficits has got to stop.

by Alex9 on Feb 12, 2010 9:11 AM EST reply actions  

It's not how you start, it's how you finish.

The Magic had a chance to win at the end of the game but didn’t execute, plain and simple.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Jameer was totally lost last night

I counted at least 10 times when he would drive to the hoop, dribble around, dunno what to do, and forced ridiculous passes. Even when he was wide open he would drive into the crowd or try some weak high arching cross court passes. I wonder if he didn’t get a good night sleep or something because that was some awful decision making.

And I wonder if Dwight should just stay back on pick and rolls instead of chasing the wing players around trying to cut them off. He’s the the last (only?) line of defense for the Magic and when he goes out to chase wing guys it can only lead to cheap fouls, or open path for rollers/cutters. And LeBron is too good a passer, just leave him alone, seal the paint and make him take those jumpers.

And seriously, LeBron James is too good, it’s not fair.

by pcnyc on Feb 12, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

Not making excuses....

Right now Cleveland is the better team. We played awful down the stretch and it cost us severely.

However, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next two games when we have a day to rest before. I think it’s absurd that the NBA would give such a premier matchup such a disadvantage in rest. Both times we have had back to back (and in this case quite a busy stretch) while Cleveland had 3 days to rest the first time and two this time. Somethings off.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by MNeilson on Feb 12, 2010 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

Cleveland was certainly the better team last night.

But there were some anomalies. I.E. Hickson and Verejao turning into a 2-headed Karl Malone. Either way, I can’t wait for the next game.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You keep spelling Varejao wrong

The real "Masters of Panic" are commenting on this blog.

by ben_gleicher on Feb 12, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't care enough to spell it right.

But thanks for pointing it out.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Love the spelling correction in your sig between the first and second post here.

LOL.

"This is two good games in a row for Carter -- not a full blown trend yet, but if it becomes one the Magic just got a lot more scary." ~Kurt Helin

by magicfaninTN on Feb 12, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Hate is another form of love.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Uhhhh, what's that Mr. Plato?

"This is two good games in a row for Carter -- not a full blown trend yet, but if it becomes one the Magic just got a lot more scary." ~Kurt Helin

by magicfaninTN on Feb 12, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I was referring to slick's signature, which you were commenting on.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

People can be so ridiculous some times.

Let’s get this straight. In our last 14 games, we’ve lost 3 road games where we had leads in the 4th quarter against very good home teams (LA, Memphis, Cleveland) and we had one bad loss where we were up 21 but two players caught absolute fire in the second half and now we need to make a trade. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, “Get some perspective.”

I know this is going to be the “Kill Jameer Show” all weekend, but let’s look back on those past 14 games. He had a bad game against Memphis (L), Washington (L), and Indiana (W) and then he had a bad quarter against Cleveland (if anyone can have a good enough memory to look back, he was playing well before that). The other games he was solid to good. It will be repeated, there were a lot of factors that led to last night’s loss.

1.) Bad defense on Hickson and Sideshow Bob, leading to easy buckets that were inexcusable. 2.) Bad rotations on perimeter shooters allllll night. People might say “Oh it was really bad in the 4th,” and yes, it was. But it was really bad allllll night. They just made more shots in the 4th. 3.) Jameer’s decision making in the last 6 minutes. That’s been gone over ad nauseum. 4.) Lack of ball and player movement for the entire team in the last 6 minutes. Pietrus, Lewis, and Carter all share some of the blame (even the shot Pietrus made was a terrible shot). Jameer gets more of the blame for that last stretch, but hey, that’s 6 minutes out of 48. To pin the loss on him and ignore everything else that happened in the game is short-sighted. 5.) LeBron is LeBron. As stated by Ben, Pietrus had great D on him. 6.) Dwight should’ve been left in. He’s earned that trust this year by coming through in the situation where he picked up his 4th in the 3rd quarter every time but one. But Stan knows it, so it’s no sense in killing him for a decision most coaches would’ve made.

All in all, there were some rational people warning not to put too much stock in this game. We’re not going to pass Cleveland in the standings unless LeBron gets hurt. This kind of scheduling situation isn’t going to happen again this year. This game will not have much to do with anything if/when we meet in the playoffs. I guarantee those rotations will be fixed by then. I guarantee those back-picks freeing up their PF’s for easy buckets will be fixed. I guarantee Sideshow Bob will not be hitting Steve Nash-esque fade-aways. I can, however, also guarantee that LeBron will continue to have nights like that. But as we saw, even when that’s true, even when there are a lot of factors working against the team, they can still be in the position to win on the road against the Cavs. There are some Cavs fans who still do not feel comfortable about playing us in the playoffs.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Most of what you say is true. But if Vince Carter had a 5 minute stretch like Jameer did, you'd be striking a totally different tune. I'm sure of it.

Fact is, the Magic were in control of that game and Jameer, most of all, fumbled it away. No reason to get hung up on it though.

by CaliFlorida on Feb 12, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Vince had a nondescript night.

He had an up and down night in the loss against Washington. Bad nights happen.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what else you want me to say besides the fact the guy had a terrible 6 minute stretch.

But he wasn’t responsible for the first quarter blitz Cleveland put on us. He wasn’t responsible for Dwight’s foul trouble. He wasn’t responsible for Pietrus and Vince also taking ill-advised shots. If you want to say that 6 minute stretch was the major reason why we lost the game, then I’m not going to argue. I like to look at games in their totality, but sometimes they can be broken down into smaller bits.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, some really good thoughts, slick

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Feb 12, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It's my day off, so I'm bored.

Thanks though. I try to add something to the discussion.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

We have seen how The cavs play when the chips are down.

I too tried to fool myself into believing that our 2-0 regular season record against the Lakers was good for something against them in a 7 game playoff series.

Clearly it was not.

Scheduled Loss.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

"Who wants to buy some DVD's?"~Big Z

by BS Patrol on Feb 12, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

Succinct.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Blaming doesn't change the outcome of last nights game

Everyone just learns from the mistakes and continues on with life. I actually liked last nights game, even though we lost. I have a feeling the playoffs are gonna be really fun to watch this year. Hopefully the refs won’t be stupid though.

by GoMagicGo on Feb 12, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

I ignore the blame stuff

Because I am older than 25.

It is funny to see though.

People who can’t win an XBOX LIVE 2k10 game all the sudden know how to run the Orlando Magic.

"Who wants to buy some DVD's?"~Big Z

by BS Patrol on Feb 12, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I recommended your comment

Nice to see the rational people on here who don’t panic after one loss.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Feb 12, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Great comment.

I know we have community filled with educated and rationale people. Sure, there will be those that try to blame and instigate, but that’s to be expected. It’s human nature. Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that’s great but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I just made your last sentence my new signature, E

Hope you don’t mind!

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Feb 12, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Should link it so they know what you're talking about Mike

Here’s the link to Eddy’s comment.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Feb 12, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks pookey, but I'm not computer savvy enough to know how to put the link in along with the quote

"Everyone is passionate about the Magic and that's great, but the key is keeping things in perspective and staying realistic." - erivera7

by Mike from Illinois on Feb 12, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It's very easy to do.

< a href = “http://www.blahblah.com”>Text you want to put it in < / a>

Use that, and close the gaps between the “<”, where the “=” sign is, and a in both cases and it should link fine.

If you don’t understand what I mean, just link something using the chainlink icon. You can use that html if you don’t understand what I just typed.

No mistakes in the tango, Donna. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on Feb 12, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad I could provide a quotable.

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by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t have expert opinion, but I did see that during the time the magic were up 7. They got there by forcing the “lebron vs Magic” offensive plays the cavs run. They forced a shot clock violation, one or 2 bad shots. Even the ones he made, for any other player would of been a bad shot. Then Dwights bad foul happened. I think the magic can learn from this like the post says. Force Lebron to do it all. Don’t double shaq, he’s slow and as long as the refs let the big men bang Dwight can stay in the game and play. The cavs are almost unbeatable when he’s going stockton on teams. He literally makes players better because on any other team varejao would be a scrub. But lebron gets him easy buckets. I think you let lebron go for 45 stay at home on their shooters and let dwight play shaq and help out in the paint. There’s no reason anthony parker, jamario moon,gibson and sideshow bob should be beating the magic. Make lebron average 50 against us, it worked in the playoffs and it works against D wade too.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed it but it was almost embarassing to the sport at how blatantly obvious the refs were trying to keep shaq in the game. He hacked jameer and they waited to see if the shot went in, shot goes in no call and shaq doesn’t get his 5th. And when he had fifth he blatantly forced dwight out of bounds with a push and there was no call. I don’t believe in conspiracy theories but I do believe in business and the NBA has an agenda when it comes to the Cavs because of their biggest money maker.
I also really do hope the NBA imposes a flopping rule one day bc its such a cowardly move. Take a real charge like JJ reddick does. That offensive foul on dwight was nothing more than a snap of the head by varejao, if u look at the replay dwight didn’t even hit him to force his head to snap back like that. Granted dwight could of kept his elbows low to take away the opportunity of a flop.
Other than that, Cavs played well at home, they beat us last year at the Q and pulled away late too. So I’m not even worried until the playoffs. And the first game this season was more an exhibition. Next game both teams should be full strength.

by jonathan.rivera84 on Feb 12, 2010 12:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

You somewhat hit the nail on the head.

The Cavaliers’ offense stagnated in the third quarter but LeBron changed that in the fourth quarter.

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by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

we need to take shaq away from the game by drawing fouls

we need a pg to attack the basket. but in our case i think jameer and jwill cant do that

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by Hbkid on Feb 12, 2010 1:12 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, they both got in the lame.

Jameer missed a couple gimmes, but what’re you going to do? It could’ve been fatigue, it could’ve been lack of focus, it could’ve just been bad luck. Shaq missed a lay-up by about two feet right after Jameer missed his second one.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Bad luck.

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by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, "in the lame"

Sounds like a new word of the day for Basketbawful. Anybody read that blog?

by Tim333 on Feb 12, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Out of curiosity

Why is Goukas so interested in the blogosphere?

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by pookeyguru on Feb 12, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard of worse ideas. Rarely do you see bloggers less informed than many of the accredited media personnel.

I’m not saying every media members sucks because that isn’t true. I just think that Goukas is rare in that he uses the blogosphere to find information. Most people in Goukas’ position don’t seem to think with that type of forward thinking. Maybe that’s another way of describing why Goukas is a good analyst. (Well for the Magic anyway. I hated him on NBC.)

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by pookeyguru on Feb 12, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Seeing that loss hurt but...

…it could be worse. It’s just a regular season game and I think the Magic are still the real deal. We’ll see in the playoffs if they can put together enough consistency to beat the Cavs like I know they can.

by Tim333 on Feb 12, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Yep.

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by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That's it..
attempted too many jumpshots and neglected to play inside-out

We didn’t feed the Beast..

Shard was also doing work in the POST and we didn’t go to him..

That appears to be our Achilles heal vs good teams, neglecting the inside game when we have a lead or the game is close..

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by Wmillion on Feb 12, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

Good point about Rashard.

He was good for some buckets down there, but we stopped going to any post plays. It was frustrating.

I hate Verejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

SVG is smart he will fix it.

I would like to see the team go to Shard in the low block when D12 is out with foul trouble.

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by Wmillion on Feb 12, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd like to see the numbers on Rashard in the post.

Because it seems like he can score almost at will down there.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

0.94 points per possession in the post, which is in the 67th percentile ("very good")

On the left block (90% of his post-ups come from there) he scores 0.93 points per possession (65th percentile).

Where he’s deadliest is on the left block turning to his right (to the baseline) and shooting. 1.15 points per possession, scores 57.7% of the time. He’s much less effective turning to his left (0.77 points per possession).

by Evan Dunlap on Feb 12, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Goukas always talks about Rashard on the left block.

Glad to see numbers back that up. His fade-away turning to his right is usually deadly.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

rec.

I think Shard needs more post-ups when D12 is out..

Thanks for the Info.

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by Wmillion on Feb 12, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Three big runs by the Cavaliers last night

First quarter: Between the 8:07 point and the 3:16 point, the Cavaliers outscored the Magic 19-2.
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Third and fourth quarters: Between the 4:59 point of the third and the 11:14 point of the fourth, the Cavaliers outscored the Magic 18-4.

Fourth quarter: Between the 7:30 point and the 1:07 point, the Cavaliers outscored the Magic 18-2.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 12, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah; that's really something, isn't it

I used the play-by-play from the game on nba.com to compile that info.

The Magic had the lead just before each of those Cavaliers’ runs… 12-7 in the first, 79-72 in the third, and 96-94 in the fourth.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 12, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It's insane, that's what it is.

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by erivera7 on Feb 12, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow… That seriously blows my mind. I blame that on lack of Magic ball movement and VC not having been able to even play go-to scoring.

by derekk on Feb 12, 2010 6:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What concerns me is how doesn't get to the foul line mcuh these days.

Someone pointed it out after the Hornets game, a lot of the time VC has to hit superstar shots to get his points. He’s certainly capable, but sometimes he makes it look real hard.

by CaliFlorida on Feb 12, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

Although in that game, he also did a lot of driving into the lane. He didn’t do that as much in this game.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It's been a precipitous decline for Carter the past few years.

It shouldn’t come as any surprise, to be honest.

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by erivera7 on Feb 13, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I will say this.

It’s funny reading comments from Cavs’ fans. Last year, they were like, “There’s no chance they beat us in the playoffs, I don’t care what happened in the regular season”, and now they’re all, “You see these two games? This Magic team is nowhere near what they were last year, there’s no way they beat us.”

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 4:33 PM EST reply actions  

As a Cavs fan, I can tell you that’s not the whole truth. For most of us, it feels good to know we can beat you guys in the regular season. It’s not the be-all end-all, but it’s a measuring stick for our team’s progress. Trust me, no Cavs fan is discounting the magic after what happened last year. We are, however, happy to see that the offseason moves we’ve made seemed to be helping. But I mean, we beat the Spurs twice in the regular season in ‘07… didn’t matter for much. Playoffs are where it counts, and I (and many other Cavs fans) look at our two wins against you guys this year as an indication that we can hang with you guys if it comes down to it.

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by Turkmenbashi on Feb 12, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the courteous response.

I am an avid reader of cavstheblog.com because I like Krolik a lot, so I was basically forming my opinion off the comments from there. Obviously it was a generalization, but yeah, that certainly doesn’t speak for every Cavs fan. Hope to meet you guys again in the playoffs and settle it there.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll chime in . . .

Because it’s fun! That’s the only reason anyone should care about any of this.

by CaliFlorida on Feb 12, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

As CaliFlorida said, basically because it's fun.

It’s not upsetting, it’s just funny.

I hate Varejao.

by slickw143 on Feb 12, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, I hate Varejao too, with an unhealthy passion.

Cavs-Magic is a great rivalry right now. The bad blood just oozes from every corner.

by CaliFlorida on Feb 12, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

lol I like it better than that rivalry we had going with the Celts.

Rivalries are fun, especially when you have friends that are rooting for the other team.

by GoMagicGo on Feb 12, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

the problem last night

I don’t have a dog in this fight so to speak since i could care less who won, Cavs or Magic. But the problem seemed to be all mental. I’ve never really liked SVG because he doesn’t give the same type of confidence as Phil Jackson or a Popavich. He never seems to be certain of anything, and he wasn’t last night. On a straight talent perspective, i still think that the Magic have the advantage. They don’t have the same advantage as last year, because lets face it, Hedo is better than Vince. But they still do have an advantage.

1) Why do you guys continue to fall behind by 10-20 points early? This is STRICTLY a coaching issue in my opinion. SVG needs to get the Magic playing at their fullest from the get go.

2) Strategy. Again, a coaching problem. What is the strategy against the Cavs? I know what it SHOULD be, and that’s play inside out basketball. When i say that, most people think i mean Dwight, but that’s not correct. Rashard should also be posted up. In the post, Rashard is your best offensive talent. I watched him in Seattle for all those years and the guy has game. Stop shooting all these contested 3’s, and take advantage of where you are superior. In the post, the magic are superior with Dwight + Rashard. Take advantage and then shoot the 3’s when they are open because of the post game.

3) Defensive strategy. Again a coaching issue. You guys did best when you played 1 on 1 basketball, not double teaming. Allow Lebron to “get his” via jump shots. Don’t double team an old and abused Shaq in the post. If Shaq in the post or Lebron on the perimeter beat you, then live with it. But don’t let Hickson/Varjoa pick you guys apart with dunks! The defensive strategy you used was responsible for all those easy points and everyone else getting involved.

4) Refs were horrible. They give Lebron way too many calls, especially against Dwight. Someone needs to be hired to show Dwight all the “tricks” there are to Ref calls. Maybe give Chauncy Billups a 10 day coaching contract to show Dwight how to play the refs. Of course they give Lebron some calls, but there are tricks to the trade and Dwight obviously doesn’t know them. I was joking about Billups, but seriously, someone should be hired for this purpose.

All in all, i thought that the Orlando coaching was to blame. Bad strategy, bad substitution patterns, bad everything. The Magic still have the advantage against the Cavs. It is not as big as it was before, but it’s still there. SVG needs to study what mistakes he made and correct it.

by plyka on Feb 12, 2010 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

sure u right!!

i firmly believe that the magic still hold an advantage over cle but not as much as last season. i won’t say that turk is a better player than vc, but, he is definitely better than effort vc has showin to this point this season. turk was orlando’s mr fourth quarter last year and vc was suspose to be this year….but 30 somethin percent from the field will not get it done!! hopefully he will get it turned around OR reddick needs to see more floor time. SVG is a good coach!! his strategies are effective…..but… sometimes i wish he would tell guys to stop shooting so many 3’s when they have a sizeable lead……

by cjizzle54 on Feb 15, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

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