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Atlanta Hawks 80, Orlando Magic 74

In one of their worst offensive showings since Stan Van Gundy took over as head coach prior to the 2007/08 season, the Orlando Magic fell to the Atlanta Hawks, 80-74, on Monday night to drop their second straight game. Without point guard Jameer Nelson to orchestrate the offense, Orlando stagnated and failed to get good shots for most of the night, shooting 4-of-22 from three-point range and turning the ball over 17 times in a low-possession game. Atlanta's Josh Smith poured in 19 points, 13 rebounds, 3 assists, and 4 blocked shots to outplay his childhood friend and former AAU teammate, Dwight Howard, who shot only 5-of-11 from the floor to finish with 14 points, 13 rebounds, and 3 blocks of his own. Mike Bibby hit the crucial basket, a straightaway three-pointer to give his team a 6-point edge with 26.2 seconds to play, forcing the Magic to play the free-throw game the rest of the way.

Against an active and engaged Hawks defense, the Magic failed to move the ball from side-to-side, which is one reason they've enjoyed so much success during Van Gundy's tenure. Far too much one-on-one play for Orlando tonight, which resulted in just 9 assists on 28 field goals. The Magic's defense was no slouch either, yielding less than one point per possession to a potent Hawks crew, but Atlanta didn't make many mistakes even though it missed 62 percent of its shot attempts. With Smith locked in from mid-range and Bibby connecting on three of his four treys, Atlanta got just enough offensively to best a clearly struggling Magic team.

Vince Carter led Orlando with 18 points on 8-of-15 shooting, but freed himself for only one three-point attempt, which he missed. And Quentin Richardson failed to exploit the Hawks' smallish defenders in the low post, missing all four of his shots en route to a scoreless night. Rashard Lewis, too, struggled to get it going. Matched up against Smith and Al Horford for much of the night, Lewis missed eight of his 11 tries, and one of his baskets was an uncontested layup for the game's final points.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Hawks8594.441.8%10.622.29.4
Magic8785.440.5%18.923.819.6
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

Nights like this make one appreciate what Nelson can do for Orlando's ballclub. Though Chris Duhon played one of his better games of the season filling in for Nelson, the Magic nonetheless had to use Carter to initiate much of their offense, which yielded unimpressive results. Carter wisely looked to attack Atlanta's weak perimeter defenders in the pick-and-roll, but Horford and Smith provided expert help throughout the game. With the outside shots falling off the rim, the passing lanes open only briefly, and Jason Collins blanketing Howard insidde, the Magic struggled to get good shot attempts. There's very little good to say about that end of the floor tonight. Even without Nelson, Orlando's capable of more offensively.

At the other end, Orlando rotated soundly and did a commendable job battling back to win the rebounding fight, 45-42, after a significant early deficit. Few second-chance looks for Atlanta, but otherwise, they moved the ball OK and got decent shot attempts. Bibby's lone missed trey was wide-open, and Maurice Evans, who's almost automatic from the corners on most nights, also missed a great three-point try on one possession where Orlando was shorthanded, owing to Duhon struggling to free himself from the crowd after diving into the second row for a loose ball. In general, it's fair to say the Magic lacked the energy to compete tonight.

They also didn't get much from their bench. Yeah, Brandon Bass scored 10 points, but he shot 4-of-11 from the field and committed three turnovers. J.J. Redick scored 11 points in his return to Orlando's lineup from the same stomach bug that's sidelined Nelson, but Mickael Pietrus' woeful night (no points, 0-of-3 shooting in 14 minutes) mitigated his impact. On nights like these, teams ought to be able to count on their benches to provide a sort of spark that can put them over the top. Only Redick really came through tonight, and Van Gundy was wise to leave him in at shooting guard for the game's closing minutes.

Atlanta ought to feel great about this win. It's struggled against the Magic in the past, having not won in Orlando since opening night of the 2008/09 season. A gutty effort from Atlanta's men tonight, which earned them a very tough win. Kudos to them for a fantastic effort, and Smith in particular. Famously prone to mental lapses, he played sharp on both ends tonight, and gets the game ball from me despite Bibby's heroics. I don't like the idea of a player with his athletic gifts taking early jumpers, but when he drains them, he makes folks like me look foolish.

Reigning Sixth Man of the Year Jamal Crawford needed 17 shots to score 15 points off the Hawks' bench, but he scored 6 quick points to start the fourth period when Van Gundy elected to use five reserves at once. The Magic positioned themselves to make a fourth-quarter run, as they only trailed by a single point entering the final 12 minutes. But poor execution--they committed 6 turnovers in the period--and conversion doomed them in a loss that's sure to sting for a while.

If you want to be a bit silly, you can take this loss as a good sign if you're a Magic fan. Indeed, as I said, Atlanta hadn't won in Orlando since opening night 2008/09, when Orlando went on to advance to the NBA Finals.

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I’m beginning to think you like showing Gortat’s posterizations, lol.

Smith has his fightin’ face on.

by Divad Agelop on Dec 6, 2010 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

someone doesn't know how to quit the OPP

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Unban me from the OPP!"...........David Polega

by AB's triple double on Dec 7, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm beginning to think VC isn't what we (and Stan) are hoping for

which is that guy that will take over and will us to a win in situations just like this.

Yes, he’s putting up good numbers, yes he’s more efficient, yes we will probably still make or win the ECF with him starting on our team. But no, he is not being what Stan wants him to be: Vince freaking Carter.

Then again, I guess he’s just not that kind of player anymore. But I wonder if Melo would have pulled out a W for us last night if we had him instead………. hmmmm

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by gatorboi352 on Dec 7, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha Seriously?

The point with ‘Melo isn’t who’s better, him or Vince… I don’t think anyone in their right mind would argue for Vince at this point in his career. The problem is we can’t trade Vince for ‘Melo straight up in the real world. Other teams after him are willing to put together a more attractive package than Orlando is. The only player I’d sell the farm for is CP3, that’s it.

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by slickw143 on Dec 7, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Anything which happened last night is not an indicator of how Magic is capable of playing.

Funny enough, Vince’s numbers were not that bad compared to other supposedly impact players (i.e., Rashard, Quentin, Bass and MP). The whole team was tired due to playing excessive amount of minutes to fill in for the sick players. Additionally, infected players were not up their potentials.

by Matt1325 on Dec 7, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right.

A co-worker of mine just returned to work with this stomach virus. He was out for a week and lost 7 pounds. He said it was the worst GI infection in his life, and it was coming out both ends. Three days into it, the sight of an ice cube made him sick.

I know our front line played last night because they were physically capable, but their bodies just won a hard-fought war and they weren’t physically capable of playing to their abilities. I don’t mind this loss.

However, I kind of pity Portland. They will face the Magic at full strength Thursday and, coming off 2 losses, it won’t be pretty.

by MagicPhan on Dec 7, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Trade Gortat and others as a package

We need something else and gortat may still have value now but is plummitting by the game

by Vanek on Dec 6, 2010 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Iggy?

who would of thought we would be arguably the greatest of all time
around here we developed such a sound down here
but duplicate it off the steel it can only be found here

by 4QB on Dec 6, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Also Atlanta is a good team, despite our recent history against them.

So, yes. I blame it too on the virus and tired legs… but Atlanta was missing Joe Johnson. A game like this can happen.

Better start winning again fast, cause the Heat are closing up on us.

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by North of the South on Dec 6, 2010 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

here we go with trade talk again.

this team is fine and “if” we hit our stride in the playoffs no one can beat us.

by magicman775 on Dec 6, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Only the Pistons.

Other than the Pistons in 2004, I can’t think of a team that pulled a big mid-season trade and won the championship, heck, or even make it to the Finals.

Magic would need to be playing like gangbusters, and be top in the East, several games ahead of Boston and Miami, for Anthony or Paul (and their respective teams stuck) to demand to be traded to the Magic. Now of course, if the Magic were to be in such a good position, why risk a trade? what would they offer to NO or Denver? I’m not mentioning Arenas, cause I don’t see him as an upgrade, or someone that would fit with the Magic.

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by North of the South on Dec 7, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Let the records show...

That Jameer Nelson makes this offense run. Please get well soon, Jameer…

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by slickw143 on Dec 7, 2010 12:40 AM EST reply actions  

Yep... I second that!

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by Mike from Illinois on Dec 7, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Duhon has three assists in his last 63 minutes

I was expecting a heck of a lot better than this from Duhon. It’s not like he’s not capable, he had 9 assists in a game in a start earlier this season.

It was a good win for the Hawks, especially considering that they were without Joe Johnson, and gives them confidence that not only can they compete with the Magic, they can beat them, and on the road.

That being said, if Jameer Nelson was playing, the Magic most likely would have had more than 9 assists as a team, and they would have scored more than 74 points.

The combined numbers for Lewis, Richardson, and Pietrus… 10 points on 3 of 19 shooting (15.8%), including 2 of 12 on threes, for an eFG% of 21.1% and a TS% of 25.2%.

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by Mike from Illinois on Dec 7, 2010 12:41 AM EST reply actions  

Man that is brutal

And thank you for posting this

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by I KNOW IT ALL on Dec 7, 2010 4:09 AM EST up reply actions  

if even you Mike lost your patience in Duhon, we might be in trouble.

That was one those nights again but overall the Hawks didn’t look to me as a team that can give us trouble in the future. They still shoot a bunch of Js wtih those bad looking isos. Q and Rashard should have done a better job yesterday though. It’s hard to beat any team with % like that. Those numbers could also explain to some extend the lack of assists. 4-22 in threes, damn!

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by 44792212 on Dec 7, 2010 6:16 AM EST up reply actions  

To me, it looked like they were tired

And the point guards didn’t do a good enough job of penetrating in and dishing the pass to create ball movement and offensive rotation. Also, the fact that the players were looking tired (either from the virus or from all these games where they played above their minutes) wasn’t helping either and it was a big reason why ball movement was stagnant, as SVG said.

It was stagnant because when people are tired, they only tend to move WITH the ball. They tend to rest when they don’t have it. Without movement off the ball, that’s when the passing game becomes difficult and that’s when the ball handler needs to start doing off the dribble work because his passing lanes are closed. So he needs to create stuff. They ran the offense through Vince but he was tired as well and not quick enough to make the defense collapse like a (healthy) Jameer would do.

And Dwight was very tired at the end of the game… he was barely walking. I respect the work the “virus” guys put in this game though. They didn’t really give up… but they were just tired. I also respect Duhon’s hustle this game, he played with heart.

If there’s any knock on Bass’ game, it’s that he started to shoot drifters and mini-fade aways in the last two games, and that’s why he’s missing. He’s not at all used to those shots yet he takes them kind of like to say “hey I can make these kind of shots too!” but he can’t make them on a consistent basis as a regular jumpshot. That’s kind of like the opposite for Vince since Vince has shot fade-aways all his life and that’s basically his normal way of shooting, and it also increases his arc on the shot which improves his accuracy, believe it or not.

by Raptorel on Dec 7, 2010 7:45 AM EST reply actions  

"It was stagnant because when people are tired, they only tend to move WITH the ball."

This.

I also have it, on my own authority, that I am an expert on this stuff.

by Redfield on Dec 7, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's chalk it off as a bad night, and move on since this is not indicative of how Magic is capable of playing.

Good news is that they have two days of rest before they start the grueling west coast trip; first stop Portland on Thursday.

by Matt1325 on Dec 7, 2010 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

Celtics D own us

Following the "worst offensive showings " link I noticed that 5 out of our 25 worst offensive nights in the past years came against Boston. Oddly we won 3 out of those 5 games, but still I am not very confident with our offense against them.

by Leandro. on Dec 7, 2010 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

No need for the irony

I was just pointing how good their D is against us. There are many great defensive teams in the NBA an none of them shows 5 times in our 25 worst offensive showings lists. And no other defense destroyed our offense while kicking us out of the 2010 playoffs.

by Leandro. on Dec 7, 2010 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

Hear hear.

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by slickw143 on Dec 7, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a second straight lose by the Orlando Magic and is the worst of the team since Van Gundy took charge. I can’t say anything because I still believe that Gundy has the depth needed for survival and can turn things around.

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by chriswalker on Dec 7, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

I don't think anyone is saying anything about the Magic not being able to turn THIS 2 game losing streak around.

This is a good team and they will still win close to 60 again this year. 15-6. That doesn’t strike me as a team trying to “survive”

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by JeffShann3 on Dec 8, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you kidding?!?! It's a complete catastrophe!!!

It’s the worst loss in the history of basketball!! It’s a spit in the eye of the ghost of Dr. Naismith! It’s total chaos! It’s Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! It’s Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes… It’s The dead rising from the grave! It’s Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

(That’s a joke.)

In short, Jeff is right; and I think it is really nothing to worry about.

I also have it, on my own authority, that I am an expert on this stuff.

by Redfield on Dec 8, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

whew, Im glad you threw that (That's a joke.) line in there, I was starting to worry.

LOL

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by JeffShann3 on Dec 8, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

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