Orlando Magic dominate on boards early: what can we expect? [Promoted FanPost]
OPP community member 3.3seconds wrote this interesting piece about the Magic's rebounding so far. - ED
Through the first three games, the Magic are on pace for a historic rebounding season. They're grabbing 79% of defensive rebounds, which is the best percentage in the league, and surpasses even their 2009-10 mark. But they're also getting 29.5% of the offensive boards, which is good enough to tie for 7th in the league.
<em>This</em> is a new development, probably spurred by the bigger lineups the team has been playing. With Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis starting, the Magic often had to choose between getting back on defense and crashing the offensive boards. But with two rebounders in the lineup, it's a lot easier to do both.
Overall, the Magic are grabbing 56.2% of the rebounds on the court. That's easily the best percentage in the league, and beats last year's leader Cleveland (52.4%).
There hasn't been a team that averaged more than 53.5% in any recent season. And were looking at a three-game sample size here, albeit a sample which includes a game which will likely be the Magic's worst loss of the season. So yeah, 56% is probably not sustainable.
Or is it?
Consider this: with Dwight and Lewis starting at the post positions, the Magic grabbed 77.4% of available defensive rebounds last year. If Ryan Anderson and Brandon Bass take over many of the PF minutes, they're both an upgrade over Lewis. Lewis, in turn, is a poor rebounder for a PF but potentially a big rebounding threat at the 3. Quentin Richardson is just about the equal of Barnes as an excellent rebounder for his position. And Marcin Gortat seems primed to return to form after a somewhat disappointing season last year... is a 1.5% increase that unreasonable? I don't see how the Magic don't make some improvements as a rebounding team.
And as I said, 29.5% offensive rebounding isn't even the best average in the league right now. Nor is it unreasonable as a season-long goal. Every year, multiple teams pass the 30% mark: Memphis and Detroit last season, Portland and Philadelphia in 2008-09, three teams in 2007-08.
There's been talk of the San Antonio Spurs as a model for the Magic's lack of attention to second-chance points, but after the retirement of David Robinson, did the Spurs ever have a frontcourt with the offensive rebounding ability of Gortat/Anderson/Bass? No. They had guys like Rasho Nesterovic, Fabricio Oberto, Francisco Elson, Matt Bonner and Robert Horry. They could never put together four credible threats on the offensive glass... they rarely had more than two.And let's face it, as great a rebounder as Tim Duncan is, Dwight is likely even better.
In short, it's a lot easier for the modern-day Magic to have it both ways, sending a man back on defense while still contending for the offensive board. And if they do, it wouldn't be out of the question for them to become the first team in a long time to snag more than 54% of the season's rebounds. If that happens, it's one more obstacle the team's opponents have to overcome.
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Magic out-rebound the Nets 50-31.
Granted, three of the four teams we’ve played have not been among the league’s elite, or even among the league’s playoff contenders. But this team continues to control the boards.
You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.
It'll be interesting to follow the rebounding trend the rest of the season
Four games is a rather small sample size but it’s certainly something to watch the rest of the way; we’ll see how the Magic do when they face more playoff-worthy teams.
Three players had 8 or more rebounds against NJ (Lewis with 8, Bass with 9 and Howard with 16).
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by Mike from Illinois on Nov 6, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
Stan talked many times, even last season, about the need for the team to rebound better and not just stand
around and watch D12 take care of it. This year’s roster has done a great job thus far as you point out. Every improvement on this team is a great plus and I appreciate the effort a lot while watching the games. It also shows that SVG will change one of his “philosophies” as soon as his roster will give him signs that allow it. Does anyone have a number on how much % we converted on those offensive boards ?
Don't mind my spelling. I'm a Typo Master.
Magic have 35 points on 30 putback possessions, according to Synergy.
Bass: 8 pts on 9 poss
Howard: 10 pts on 9 poss
Anderson: 6 pts on 5 poss
Lewis: 6 pts on 3 poss
Richardson: 2 pts on 2 poss
Nelson: 1 pt on 1 poss
Gortat: 2 pts on 1 poss
Bear in mind this only refers to putbacks, and not offensive rebounds after which the Magic reset their offense and get a score.
last year Magic were at 24.6% on the offensive side. It would be also interesting to keep track on how
they do in that discipline in the road games compared to the ones at home.
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Great analysis, 3.3seconds. Thanks for your contribution.
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case, 'cause "...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
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Forgot to REC this fanpost the other day. Fixed.
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case, 'cause "...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
Stats Education::
Advanced Stats 101 @ MBN | Basketball Reference | Basketball Prospectus | 82games
by magicfaninTN on Nov 9, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Overall Rebounding
That’s how the Lakers beat Boston.
Brandon Bass is great getting offense boards
I love how he rebounds and his defense is a little.I love he dived the loose ball and pass to Jameer and the Offensive boards we’ve been missing type of player since Bo Outlaw. He is like Bo Outlaw that can score
Yeah I love how he was fighting on offense for every ball
The Magic need someone to do that
Well...
…Outlaw was also a very underrated passer for a PF.
I am probably overrating Outlaw in my mind, because he’s one of my favorite Magic players of all time. (Right up there with Darrell, 3-D and Jameer.) So I’m not going to get too extravagant in praising his defense, because I know he was good at it, but I probably remember him as better than he actually was. I know he got a lot of blocks and steals, but I don’t know if he was gambling or leaving his man to get them, because I wasn’t really watching basketball on those terms at the time.
But I will say this: I know Bo was a strong passer, and I especially know he was a master of the outlet pass. I definitely recall many times watching him come down with a rebound, then whip the ball down the court with his big arms to Darrell, or Penny Hardaway, or whoever for the fast break.
And I’ll admit Bass is growing on me. He’s a hustle guy, which I think can make up for a lot of his shortcomings. But I don’t think it’s an insult to Bass to say he’s not the hustle guy Bo was… if only because who is?
You mess with the 4-out/1-in, you get the Horns.
yea
this is why i kept complanin for brandon bass to play more..glad you came to your senses
Expect the Magic to just steamroll over the Bobcats. that’s for sure
by Jeffrey Thompson on Nov 6, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions

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