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Orlando Magic 97, Houston Rockets 88: Rashard Lewis' Offensive Brilliance the Highlight in Orlando's Preseason Opener

Paced by a balanced and versatile, if not entirely accurate, offensive attack, the Orlando Magic dealt the host Houston Rockets a 97-88 defeat at State Farm Arena in Hidalgo, Texas to kick off their 2010/11 preseason schedule. In just 27 minutes, Dwight Howard led all players with 19 points, 12 rebounds, and 3 blocked shots. He displayed improved patience and feel in the low post against former nemesis Yao Ming, who used to bottle him up with ease thanks to his freakish, 7-foot-6 frame. Vince Carter added 14 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, and 3 steals. More interestingly, Rashard Lewis scored an efficient 12 points on 5-of-6 shooting, doing most of his damage as a post-up small forward rather than a floor-stretching power forward. As one might expect, Yao looked sluggish in his first game since 2009. In just over 12 minutes, he tallied 3 points, 3 rebounds, an assist, and 2 turnovers, which included him stumbling on his own feet for a travel after driving by Howard for what should have been an open layup.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Magic94103.553.2%16.515.019.2
Rockets9394.342.1%31.623.920.4
Green denotes a stat better than the team's 2009/10 average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's 2009/10 average.

The advanced stats table above paints rather a bleak picture as far as the Magic are concerned, but there are indeed positives to take from this game, chiefly Lewis' ability to take over a game offensively at small forward. An aggressive, involved Lewis shifted to the three for portions of the second and third quarters and baffled Rockets defenders with his array of post moves, including a reverse-pivot to the inside on noted defensive ace Shane Battier for a layup in traffic. As feathery as his turnaround jumper was tonight, though, there's still cause for concern. Lewis is clearly not entirely comfortable defending small forward, having spent the last three seasons heavily at power forward. Chase Budinger managed to hang two fairly easy jumpers on him, but more damningly, the unathletic Battier managed to drive right by him on one second-quarter possession. Fortunately for Lewis, Battier short-rimmed the layup. Defense is a work in progress, sure, but the offense comes easily to him at that position. And the Magic worked intently to get him the ball, which is another good sign after a season in which he often was relegated to fourth-option duty.

Lewis wasn't the only Magic wing to get opportunities in the post, though, a point which the Orlando telecast team of David Steele and Matt Guokas made sure to note. Carter and Quentin Richardson also showcased their post skills, adding another dimension to the Magic's offense. Last year, Carter didn't get many post touches, while Matt Barnes and Mickael Pietrus simply don't have a low-post component to their games. Richardson's size and strength are assets here, as is Carter's quickness and ability to finish with either hand inside. When he spun Battier around in the post on one first-half possession, he ran into a solid rotation from a help defender, possibly Jordan Hill. Yet Carter contorted his body and converted the tough layup left-handed. This development is certainly one to monitor going forward. Getting post offense from players other than Howard is a plus.

Increased post-ups in general mean even more opportunities for inside-out basketball. The Magic got 22 assists on their 38 buckets, an impressive number for a team that gets much of its offense in isolation and at the foul line. The ball movement in the second quarter particularly impressed me, with even Brandon Bass and Pietrus making the extra pass for scores in this period.

Howard, for his part, was no slouch. Tonight, he struck the right balance of aggressiveness and patience in the low post; the word "deliberate" comes to mind. Rather than mindlessly try to back Yao down in the post, as he had in the past, he instead turned, faced, and beat Yao to the cup with his speed. On one occasion, Yao managed to cut off the baseline, but Howard scooted past him and sank a pretty lefty reverse layup in traffic, plus the foul. Oh, and he made two bank shots from the left side. So, yeah. Progress.

Orlando didn't have much luck from the outside in this game, nor did it manage to get to the line at an acceptable rate. Fouling, too, is a concern; the Rockets' combination of attacking shooting guards Kevin Martin and Courtney Lee combined for 13 free-throw attempts and 26 points overall. But it's hard to complain too much about the Magic's defense on a night when they limited Houston to sub-40 percent shooting and forced 19 turnovers.

Bass, lost in the shuffle on Orlando's bench last season, showed that he can be a useful player as long as he knows where to be. I didn't notice any instances of his teammates needing to correct his position, on either end of the floor. While he committed 3 turnovers and only snared 3 rebounds in 18 minutes--that's a poor rate for a power forward--he seemed more effective in general than last year due to improved awareness. I like the idea of him as a sort of floater/safety valve on offense, filling the sort of role Barnes did for last year's team, with the added bonus of being far more lethal as a jump-shooter than Barnes. His best bucket came from he right elbow extended in the first half. With his defender sagging too far off him to cover Howard off the ball, Bass was wide-open in his sweet spot when J.J. Redick found him off a high screen-and-roll driving from his left. He canned the jumper without hesitation. On the night, he finished with 6 points on 3-of-5 shooting.

Carter's performance was a little uneven--the 3 turnovers stand out on the stat sheet, given his usually solid handle--but he, too, showed improvement. The work he did on his body this summer was evident, as he was visibly trimmer and seemed to move more fluidly than in the past. His open-court strip of Martin as he elevated for a layup was particularly impressive. Vintage, even. I'd prefer to see him shelve the contested jumpers off the bounce, particularly when it's Battier doing the contesting, though.

Reserve center Marcin Gortat quietly chipped in 10 points in 21 minutes. He reached double-figure scoring precisely twice last year. His great hands, and the lack of attention opposing defenses afford him, make him an excellent target on the move. Carter found him late in the game for a thunderous, two-handed lob dunk which put an exclamation mark, of sorts, on Orlando's win.

Richardson got the nod as the starting small forward and performed about as advertised. Though his shot eluded him--he finished 2-of-6 from the floor--he proved to be an excellent rebounder, grabbing 7 boards in 17 minutes.

Backup point guard Chris Duhon, the team's other free-agent signee, didn't make much of an impression. He shot 2-of-5 from the floor for 4 points and added 2 assists and 1 turnover. He indeed has the look of an intelligent pick-and-roll runner, and his hustle will win the admiration of the coaching staff. After a rather curious Redick turnover, Duhon sprinted back down the floor and drew the Magic's first charge of the year.

It's worthwhile to note that, however encouraging the results of this game are, they still represent 48 minutes of an 82-game season, 48 minutes that won't amount to anything in the standings. But I think Orlando ought to feel good about its first preseason effort.

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Dwight was his usual self tonight

An absolute BEAST

"1 - 2 - Freddy's coming for you, 3 - 4 - Better lock your door, 5 - 6 - Grab your crucifix, 7 - 8 - Better stay up late, 9 - 10 - Never sleep again..."

by Gatorbuc15 on Oct 6, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Not even. Better.

The one thing I’m definitely taking away from this game is the vastly expanded offensive repertoire Dwight has now. Spin moves, up-and-unders, bank shots… I can think of only a couple sequences from 2009-10 where Dwight looked this good. And it was against a team he’s tended to struggle against, too. Can’t wait to see what he unleashes on undersized opponents.

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Oct 6, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

They will be slaughtered

Looks like those practice sessions with Hakeem Olajuwon helped.

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by Gatorbuc15 on Oct 6, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Howard showed those same shots off last year in preseason

I myself will wait to see him feel comfortable using it in the fourth quarter of a close game before I rejoice. But here’s hoping!

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by Eric9321 on Oct 6, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen the game, just the highlights on nba.com

But boy that was fun to see. I was waiting for so long to see that. That move on Yao where he faked and got to finish under the rim with the reverse layup was superb. If he can do that on a regular basis there’s no center that can stop him because nobody can move like that and nobody can stop that defensively without fouling when it comes to centers in this league.

by Raptorel on Oct 6, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what I saw too

and Dwight looked quick. I know it was against Yao, but he was really confident in his drives and he looked really, really good.

With the Heat overload, I’m surprised the NBA had cameras at other games. You think its Heat vs Lakers already. I’m saying Magic vs Rockets!

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by L Magico on Oct 6, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dwight aside... eh.

First preseason game. Everyone had strengths and weaknesses. Rashard’s offense from SF was brilliant, and makes me wish the Magic saw fit to give him more than 6 shots… but he didn’t really accomplish much else. Vince, by contrast, tried to do too much, and was around half successful. Jameer’s shot wasn’t quite there, but he was a solid PG anyway. And Q is still trying to fit in, but the 7 rebounds are a nice touch. (And 6 of them were real rebounds!)

Actually, shooting was a bit of a thing in general for the Magic. In addition to Jameer and Richardson, one got the sense that Redick, Pietrus and to a lesser extent Anderson didn’t quite have their shots firing yet.

I don’t think this game was in any way conclusive in the Bass-Anderson battle… Anderson was slightly better on offense. (Both players used 9 possessions… Anderson scored 9 points, Bass 7.) But Bass was, surprisingly, a better rebounder. Neither one showed me much on defense, though for what it’s worth, the Magic were +9 with Bass on the floor and -8 with Ryan.

But Gortat… Gortat was awesome. Maybe I’m hoping too much, but it almost seemed as though he’s finally realized that he is WAY more athletic and mobile than most big men, and decided to use that advantage. He was tipping balls for steals, cutting through the lane… the guy was everywhere, it seemed. Aside from Dwight, he was Player of the Game for me, no question.

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Oct 6, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Agree on Gortat. He seemed more "energized", for lack of a better word.

I was impressed by his entry pass steal on Yao. Showed his athleticism and improved awareness there (though it might not be fair to pick on a still recovering Yao).

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by bandrewg08 on Oct 6, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gortat was def good. He will have a great season like two seasons ago I think.
Also, why doesn’t Gortat just skip the midrange game and go straight to adding a 3 pointer? How crazy would that be haha.

by derekk on Oct 6, 2010 10:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was impressed by Ryan on offense.

At least in the first half, he showed that he could put the ball on the floor. He pump faked his man, drove, and found Gortat for an easy layup. A couple of plays later he put on a nice post-move on his man (Hill? Scola?) to draw the foul and hit his two shots. We all know he can shoot and has a nice little post game, but I was happy to see him drive the lane a little bit more.

His defense wasn’t too bad either. Hill and Scola combined for 4-15 shooting (though Scola did miss a lot of open jumpers) and I remember him playing solid post D on Hill and forcing the airball.

Just a couple of observations. Noticed more good than bad, but that was just me.

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by bandrewg08 on Oct 6, 2010 1:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I was happy with Ryan.

I do feel like he struggled with Hayes, who he was defending a lot of the time… but it’s hard to say how much.

I might’ve been a bit hard on him above, because I felt like I didn’t want to come off as biased in favor of him, which (generally) I am. Also because of the rebounding and the plus-minus. But he definitely showed some signs of skills we didn’t see much from him last year… he looked a lot more fluid on the court. I’m not worried about his performance on the boards or his three-point shooting, to be honest… we know those will come around with enough PT.

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Oct 6, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm biased towards him too, probably because he has to most potential to succeed with this team

Hayes is a great post defender for being 6’6" so I’m not too concerned that he struggled with him.

Good point about getting enough PT. His contributions are more valuable over longer periods of time, whereas Bass’s “energy” plays (and the fact that he doesn’t stretch the floor) are better suited for smaller spurts.

But in fairness to Bass, he is an excellent mid-range shooter and did show improvement in general court awareness. I was impressed by the play where he caught the loose ball that ricocheted out to the top of the key, drove, went up for the short jumper, then found Dwight for the easy score. The way he made something out of that broken play is an example of his improving awareness and chemistry with the main rotation guys.

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by bandrewg08 on Oct 6, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree about Ryan. He was not settling for 3s. Not sure if the Lewis and Ryan lineup was worth it in that particular game, but if Ryan ever starts, he’s putting up Lewis-like numbers.

by derekk on Oct 6, 2010 10:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ryan gives us yet another effective post threat in addition to Rashard, Q, and Vince.

I love the idea of posting up more and having Rashard and Ryan at the forwards gives us a really potent offense.

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by bandrewg08 on Oct 6, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stil don't understand "settling for" threes.

Threes are what we WANT guys like Ryan taking — they’re the most efficient shot you can take from the floor, aside from a layup/dunk.

And Ryan attempted four threes out of seven shots that game, and all of them were open. He only made 1 of them, but that’s the breaks. I will give him the threes he attempted every time.

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Oct 6, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope SVG

gives Anderson a full allotment of minutes in a couple of upcoming preseason games. With Lewis’ impressive offensive display at SF, Ryan would be a perfect 4 in that he could float on the perimeter. Need to see if this works…

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by RedHopeful on Oct 6, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

“With Lewis’ impressive offensive display at SF, Ryan would be a perfect 4 in that he could float on the perimeter. Need to see if this works…”

With Lewis at the 3, the last thing we need is a 4 that camps out on the 3 point line. Bass fits well at the 4 when Lewis is at the 3 for reasons Ben stated above, such as:

" I like the idea of him as a sort of floater/safety valve on offense, filling the sort of role Barnes did for last year’s team, with the added bonus of being far more lethal as a jump-shooter than Barnes. His best bucket came from he right elbow extended in the first half. With his defender sagging too far off him to cover Howard off the ball, Bass was wide-open in his sweet spot when J.J. Redick found him off a high screen-and-roll driving from his left. He canned the jumper without hesitation."

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by gatorboi352 on Oct 6, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan doesn't "camp" at the 3-point line.

He’s capable of shooting threes, driving, or scoring from the post. A lot like Lewis is at SF.

As for Bass, he used 9 possessions yesterday, and we got 7 points out of it. He’s never going to be worth it as a scorer.

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Oct 6, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the picture in this post.

Rashard is looking down at Battier like “WTF You doing down there?”

by MagicMark on Oct 6, 2010 1:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm sensing a caption contest for this picture

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by funny80sguy on Oct 6, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Ben,

Can we get a pic of VC in this game? I want to see him.

Honestly ain't I insane I think that's the way I gotta be
Ain't I so so supafly boy ain't nobody hot as me.

by 4QB on Oct 6, 2010 2:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, here it is:

Another one from practice:

by Raptorel on Oct 6, 2010 6:48 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you.

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Ain't I so so supafly boy ain't nobody hot as me.

by 4QB on Oct 6, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are two things I hope to see more of but first I have a question for anyone who can answer.
What was the best five man unit in the game? Because it awfully seems like Rashard at SF and Bass at PF. They had a torrid 2nd quarter together.
Also, Carter seemed aggressive and should even be starting. But… I think JJ should get 5-10 more mins each night. It’ll allow what SVG said about JJ playing more to become true, and it’ll allow the Magic to see the VC they keep saying they want to see, an aggressive VC who can conserve his energy and nagging injuries better. I didn’t see it tonight, JJ played like 4 mins less than VC but it should be happening imo.

I completely agree with the general concensus on how good Dwight looked. He should have 2-5 more possessions, it’s a shame to not keep feeding the beast :P
And I too really loved all the post ups. It was a nice thing to see from what’s usually 3 or Dwight/iso it. It was a pleasant surprise to see Q and VC posting up and hope it continues for everyone (Shard, Q, VC, Dwight, Gortat, Bass).

The biggest thing though again, was that the Dwight/Bass/Lewis 5 man unit was really good. I want to see it start a game and play 30+ minutes, it’s the preseason after all.

by derekk on Oct 6, 2010 3:03 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Much as I hate to say it...

…it’s worthy of investigation. I’m no fan of Bass, and his performance tonight isn’t going to change that. (So many turnovers… he had 1 assist and 3 turnovers, but given the circumstances of the assist, it should’ve been 0 and 4.)

But that +9 is a +9. It might not have been because of Bass, but unlike last season, he didn’t stop it from happening. So let’s trot it out there again… at least unless Ryan steps his game up.

(Or actually, I’m intrigued by the potential of Howard/Gortat/Lewis. I haven’t been a Twin Towers fan up to now, but judging by this game, both Dwight and Marcin have added some neat new tricks on offense…)

I mean, in general, I think Rashard at the 3 was a success. Handicapped a bit by his defensive struggles there, but it looks like SF is a big mismatch on offense. (Then again, they didn’t give him enough shots to make that ENTIRELY clear.)

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Oct 6, 2010 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t entirely clear because of how few possessions but yea, I came away that Lewis can keep scoring like that as a SF. I may not do that lineup on Miami but Boston and LA… Yea.
If Lewis is on 3, I’d just play JJ or MP who are willing defenders on the perimeter. I can’t remember the other 2 in the Dwight/Bass/Lewis unit of that 2nd quarter. I think it was Jameer and JJ or MP(?).

by derekk on Oct 6, 2010 10:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't get a chance to watch the game

I appreciate BQR’s recap and the comments thus far to get an idea of how the Magic played.

Looking at the box score, a few things that jumped out to me were that Redick had the highest +/- on the team at +15, despite a 1 for 6 shooting night, and that D12 had only 2 FT attempts in 27 minutes.

Looks like Redick had a good all-around game other than his shooting, which included 5 assists, a steal, and just 1 turnover in 22 minutes.

I’m sure the shooting, getting to the free throw line, and rebounding from the Magic will come around as the preseason progresses.

Always nice to get a W, even in the preseason (as long as no one gets injured).

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by Mike from Illinois on Oct 6, 2010 4:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Great point about JJ. Didn’t know his +/- was so high there.

by derekk on Oct 6, 2010 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Besides all the good points about Dwight and the offense,

Ben’s point about ball mouvement is also a plus for me. Since I only saw bits and pieces of the game, I was wondering how was the Magic’s transition D. On the other hand I didn’t get why they seemed only trying three pointers in the last 4-5 min of the game. (Maybe because MP was in ?)

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by 44792212 on Oct 6, 2010 6:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Yea I agree with the ball movement too. It’s coming from the post ups and inside out ball like Ben said. I hope SVG keeps calling them.

by derekk on Oct 6, 2010 11:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with everyone’s point. I would say Gortat wasn’t more “energized,” just more available. He’s good.

We’re huge and scary with Lewis, Gortat, and Howard. Gortat is skilled enough to play PF against some teams.

I think splitting Vince’s minutes with Redick is a good idea for the reasons listed in the comments. Redick can play, and Vince can stay fresh.

We have a lot of size and talent. Only other team in the NBA like that is the Lakers.

by Mikeyho on Oct 6, 2010 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Celtics have size but not as much talent… in my opinion.

by Mikeyho on Oct 6, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Used to be...

I don’t see Jermaine O’Neal improving this year. And he was getting slower and slower last season. Same goes for Shaq.
Big Baby is at best a 4thPF.
Garnett will be back fit this year so he will be back to his normal self.

Feed the cutter!!!

by Piotr Szczesniak on Oct 6, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

While I don't believe Shaq will give them anything, and Perkins is injured -

If Perkins gives them anything like he gave them last year, they still have one of the best frontcourt’s in the league in Perkins/Garnett/Pierce. Davis is a skilled player as well, and can reliably back up either the 4 or 5 spot. I also think Jermaine O’Neal could play better this season. He said the reason he played so badly in the playoffs is he was injured at the time. He certainly played amazing in the games that Miami played against us last year.

by MagicMark on Oct 6, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he blocked Dwight countless of times

But Dwight really attacked the rim weak in that game…

by Raptorel on Oct 6, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's all Perkins & Garnett.

Yeah, Perkins is going to miss the start of the season. But Perkins is shockingly fast for a 280-pound guy. (Unless he got out of shape while rehabbing the injury.) Of all the players who can match Dwight on size, he’s the one who worries me the most as a defender.

And, yeah, I think nobody’s arguing Garnett’s credentials as a help defender.

Bench is probably weaker than last year, though. Dwight has never had issues with facing Shaq before, and I don’t see the more mobile/agile Dwight struggling against the even slower Shaq now.

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Oct 6, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

1st paragraph/3rd Line: "Texas o kick off their 2010/11 preseason schedule"

11th paragraph/4th Line: "Duhon sprinted bacck down the floor "

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by Reediculous on Oct 6, 2010 7:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't want to be a d/b, but I know ED takes pride in his articles

Because they are fantastic and awesome….

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by Reediculous on Oct 6, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am very impressed with the way we performed

You can tell that Dwight is going to be a even more massive monster this year, vince looks like he is in much better shape and you can tell they have a feel for one another that they didnt have last year. Oh yeah, and i thin QR is a huge upgrade over Barnes, and Barnes was my favorite player last year, i just believe that QR has a more complete game. Our play was reallly good last night when we had Lewis at the 3 and Bass at the 4. We have so many options and so many weapons.

by Vanek on Oct 6, 2010 9:04 AM EDT reply actions  

How did the Vince/Howard pick and roll work?

Did they use it? Did they use the 1/2 pick and roll? How well did the “small guys” did in the post? What was the impression Ryan Anderson?

by Raptorel on Oct 6, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

It's good to hear positive remarks of Lewis at SF

Having options make us a WAY better team than just staying in the 4-1.. Excited for the season.

by REP96st on Oct 6, 2010 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

That's right

And you can still use the 4-1 with Anderson at PF since he can shoot the three and he can also rebound better than Rashard. That puts Rashard at SF as a 6’10 guy, and he can outrebound smaller SFs and also has a mismatch in the post at the SF position offensively.

The Magic have to find a way on defense with Rashard at SF.

by Raptorel on Oct 6, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Duhon??????????????? Awful.....

Duhon was lost in the game, the Magic needs alot more from him if them really want to compete with Miami or Boston, Jameer Nelson was awesome but his back-up (Duhon) was awful.

by roger40 on Oct 6, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn't think he was bad

I mean we expected him to not be familiar with the team yet, right? I thought he had a few nice plays and looked like he would be a upgrade as the backup this year.

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by Eric9321 on Oct 6, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

AWFUL?

Duhon wasn’t awful, he played the way a back up plays, CAUTIOUS! sure he had a few turnovers, but it was the first preseason game, and his first as a MAGIC player, against another team… give the guy a chance..GO MAGIC!!!!

by Micheal B on Oct 6, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not awful. In fact, he looked natural as the point guard out there.

We should expect him to improve over the season once he starts figuring out where his teammates like to be. I would be comfortable with him starting if anything unfortunate were to happen (knock on wood).

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by bandrewg08 on Oct 6, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah -- Duhon looked pretty solid for a first game.

He ceded a lot of control over the offense to JJ, but that’ll change as he gets used to the team. Anyway, the JJ thing worked.

Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.

by 3.3seconds on Oct 6, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

All this talk of VC..

improving but I saw nothing different last night out of him whatsoever. He still was forcing long 22foot fadeaway jumpshots last night vs the Rockets and only drove to the basket on one broken play. Im so tired of all this chatter of how great he has been in training camp, lets see something already.

by ticketgenie on Oct 6, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Carter was good all of last year

He was bad against the Celtics. But so was our entire team. It was not because of Carter we lost last year, it was because we had a Cav’s run in the playoffs and played two easy teams then ran into a hot Celtics team that just outplayed the Magic and got an insurmountable lead.

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by Eric9321 on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

*well not all

But you know what I mean

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by Eric9321 on Oct 6, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe..

They should give Carter less minutes this year.. therefore Redick gets more playing time and gets better skill-wise, and Carter wont be so worn for the playoffs..

by REP96st on Oct 6, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

Not just to keep gas in Carter’s tank for the postseason, but also to really put Reddick the test to see if he is able to really be the next starting SG here, aka let him stay consistent with more minutes more often.

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by Eric9321 on Oct 6, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vince will NEVER stop talking fadeaway jumpers, it's his shot. Just like MP will never stop steping on the line.

I hope he’ll drive more as well, but the jumper is something we’re gonna have to live with.

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by 44792212 on Oct 6, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

VC15

@ ticketgenie, man! this was the first PRESEASON game, he looked alot smoother, and honestly, Quicker….Give OUR guys a chance…bash some of the HEAT’s players, or are you a HEAT lover here to bash MAGIC men? GO MAGIC!!!

by Micheal B on Oct 6, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trying to stay neutral...

I’m just making my personal opinions of how he plays, I would like to see more of him driving and attacking OR like Eric9321 said maybe we should see less of him…It allows us to develop Redick and he can avoid minor nagging injuries throughout the regular season…If he doesn’t put up numbers this year he might end up on the HEAT next year…lol

by ticketgenie on Oct 13, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is my take away

Lewis needs more time at the 3, Anderson needs more playing time to be effective, Bass needs more playing time to be comfortable, JJ needs more playing time, Pietrus and Richardson need to be on the fllor for spacing, Gortat needs more time at the 4. Lets change to 4 fifteen minute quarters and everything will work out!

"Teams are making adjustments to us, it’s not the other way around," Smith said. "Right after (the Heat) signed LeBron and Bosh, they went out and signed eight centers. So I’m not overly concerned."

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by NC Magic Fan on Oct 6, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Gortat at PF

How much time did we spend in twin towers mode, and how well did it work?

by Zarmaka on Oct 6, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Would anyone like to discuss this for a bit
His open-court strip of Martin as he elevated for a layup was particularly impressive. Vintage, even.

I haven’t seen the game, what’s this all about?

by Raptorel on Oct 6, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Anderson lost the ball. Martin picked it up and was headed to the basket for a layup. Vince was the only defender back. As Martin went up, Vince came in and stripped the ball, then got it back upcourt. It went as a steal for Carter and a “bad pass” turnover for Martin, but it should have been a block, really. Martin was trying to shoot.

by Evan Dunlap on Oct 6, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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