Schmitz: Fran Vazquez Open to Joining Orlando Magic Next Summer
The Orlando Magic could potentially sign Fran Vazquez, whom they selected with the 11th overall pick in the 2005 NBA Draft, next summer, reports Brian Schmitz. Here's Assistant GM Dave Twardzik, as quoted by Schmitz, the Magic Insider:
"It's more open now than it has been in the past with Fran," Magic assistant general manager Dave Twardzik told the Sentinel.
After the Magic surprisingly picked Vazquez No. 11 — ahead of Indiana's Danny Granger — he burned and embarrassed the club with his no-show.
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Twardzik said barriers have now been knocked down, to some degree, because Vazquez has matured and learned a bit more English.
Over the summer, a source familiar with the overseas market told Orlando Pinstriped Post that Vazquez's chances of joining the NBA soon were "35 percent and climbing," reasoning that the departure of Tiago Splitter, now of the San Antonio Spurs, from Europe made Vazquez "perhaps" the best center on the continent. The source also said Vazquez might be more motivated to leave FC Barcelona, his current club, if point guard Ricky Rubio also leaves to join the NBA.
Vazquez, now 27, has spent the last five seasons playing overseas. In Euroleague competition last year for FC Barcelona, he averaged 7.5 points, 3.5 rebounds, and 1.1 blocks in just 17.6 minutes per game while shooting an astounding 68 percent from the floor, according to DraftExpress. He has just one season left on his contract and, according to Schmitz, joining the NBA next year is a possibility. He says NBA teams have offered to trade for his draft rights of late, which makes sense, given the dearth of athletic, efficient bigs in today's game.
And indeed, Vazquez is nothing if not athletic. Synergy Sports Technology data show that 31.5 percent of his offense came off cuts to the basket last season, and another 21.5 percent came as the dive man on the pick-and-roll. He scored on 75.6 percent of his cuts and an astonishing 85.7 percent of his rolls. Even accounting for Rubio's brilliant passing, those are impressive stats. He's not another Euro stiff. The man can move.
Earlier this year, Vazquez came up big in FC Barcelona's preseason win against the two-time defending NBA champion L.A. Lakers. He tallied 10 points on 5-of-6 shooting, 7 rebounds, 2 steals, and 1 block in 20 minutes. But he has a ways to go; he only managed 20 minutes because he fouled out.
Schmitz notes that the Magic "are up to their ears in power forwards," which is true. Coach Stan Van Gundy has a tough task in allocating 48 minutes a night to that position to Ryan Anderson, Brandon Bass, and Rashard Lewis this season, so there may not be room for Vazquez on next year's club. Then again, having Vazquez in their back pocket could enable the Magic to seriously entertain offers for backup center Marcin Gortat, another reasonably young, athletic big man. In July, GM Otis Smith estimated that 18 teams had contacted the Magic about Gortat last season.
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Trade I think fran was embarrassed by VC’s dunk over him and thus didnt want to rear his ugly head into the nba; especially since he was cut a couple of times from a couple of different teams (IF my memory serves me correctly). Also he has one maybe two good years left in him, meaning his athletic ability might wane within years of making it to the L.
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
But still the second half what I was saying sill stands true imho,
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
Not really... he's 27.
He’s got several years ahead of him.
Unless, of course, it takes playing time away from Ryan Anderson.
Several years ahead of him sure, but when you look at guys who relied a ton on athleticism have seen their overall games dissapate
over time, (I.E Kirlenko, Richard Jefferson…) I still think Bass in the better option here.
"Remember this sh*t at christmas!"-Terry Crews, The Expendables
Kirlienko has been hit by injuries. I am unaware of Vasquez suffering from any (i have no clue)
Jefferson is 30, and he seemed to struggle with the system. He was a small forward anyways. Vasquez will likely not play SF.
He'd make a nice trade bait.. maybe for the Twolves if they wanna get more leverage to bring Rubio to the NBA
there’s particularly no one Otis would want to get from Minnesota though…
Err, Kevin Love?
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by magicfaninTN on Oct 24, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
theres no reason he should be available
but there was also no reason why he shouldnt have played more last season…but that happened
They traded Jefferson because they were more interested in Love.
Then again, they gave Darko $20 million. And signed Pekovic.
They traded Jefferson because he's always injured
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Oct 24, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not true. Even if he had been healthy, he wasn't a good fit with Love because neither can defend or move well.
Love is younger, cheaper and alot more durable. Jefferson is still the better player when he's on the court
If Al didnt have the injury history do you really think they keep Love over him?
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Oct 24, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. And Love is far better than Jefferson.
by Evan Dunlap on Oct 24, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Never overestimate Kahn.
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case, 'cause "...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
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by magicfaninTN on Oct 24, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I would probably make the same decision as Fran. If you're not ready, you're not ready. You guys can be disappointed, but you can't be pissed at him for doing what was best for him and his family.
Scarlett Van Carter. I might name my daughter this.
If only he had said "I'm taking my talents to Barcelona" we would have understood.
"Teams are making adjustments to us, it’s not the other way around," Smith said. "Right after (the Heat) signed LeBron and Bosh, they went out and signed eight centers. So I’m not overly concerned."
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Oct 24, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
lol
When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan
by thermodynamic on Oct 24, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think so
I am pissed at anyone that enters the NBA draft and doesn’t fulfill the obligation inherent from that entry. If it was best for his damn family, he should have stayed his tail outta the draft.
If you were a man I would punch you, right in the mouth.
He didn't enter the draft. International players are automatically eligible.
by Evan Dunlap on Oct 25, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he was there wasn't he?
He certainly acted like he was playing is what I am saying. He did not make his intentions clear.
If you were a man I would punch you, right in the mouth.
I agree...
Fran made an honest mistake and the language confusion didn’t help. He’s NOW trying to mend fences, to his credit.
The man IS rough around the edges, but oh my what gifts he has! I saw the game against LA,,, he was SMOOTH and deadly, even though they tried hard to slow him down.
He as 4 to 6 good seasons ahead of him, and at this point has MORE game in him than Gortat; It’s this one who the Magic should use as trade-bait, and NOT Fran! Believe me!
but can we effectively utilize Vasquez as a potential backup to Dwight?
He looks more like a PF to me
What backup center in the league will give Vasquez trouble
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Oct 24, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like his name
I imagine a polar bear when I say “Fran Vasquez” so I hate him.
by Raptorel on Oct 24, 2010 4:28 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
+1
and Rec
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Oct 24, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Fran is a constant reminder of Smith and Twardzik's blunder, and that is one major reason we would not see him in a Magic uniform.
He had proven not reliable back then – influenced by his fiance – and who is to say that he has matured? Some people never do. Cultural difficulties are huge hurdles for some to overcome. He has talents? good! Trade him for the best you can. I would deal with this guy in arm’s length, and never touch him.
Are we talking about Fran or Carmelo?
"Teams are making adjustments to us, it’s not the other way around," Smith said. "Right after (the Heat) signed LeBron and Bosh, they went out and signed eight centers. So I’m not overly concerned."
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
by NC Magic Fan on Oct 24, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
You're on fire today!
When the big fella was whistled for his fourth personal foul midway through the third quarter, Stan Van Gundy left Clark Kent alone. And in a phone booth measuring 94 feet across, Dwight Howard used that vote of confidence to transform into his alter ego. - Chris Sheridan
by thermodynamic on Oct 24, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed!
I call BS on him being “open to playing with the Magic next summer”.
I'm a dude!
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by GameManager on Oct 24, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Well maybe that's useful in increasing his stock and getting a higher salary
Like “hey, the Orlando Magic would do anything for me to play for them, so I suggest you pay me a lot if you don’t want to lose me to the Magic”
The only way we get something of value from Vasquez is if we trade his rights
He’s not coming over here to be our 5th big off the bench
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Oct 24, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If he comes, then great. If he doesn't come . . . I haven't really seriously thought about him in several years anyway, so who cares
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Oct 24, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
this is my line of thinking
itll be nice if we can even just trade him for something…..a bag of potato chips would be nice because he hasnt given us even that much value so far
He doesnt help us as long as we still use the 4-1 offense with Rashard
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Oct 24, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Is he starting over Dwight Howard?
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Oct 24, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Depth at center is a terrible thing!
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
those 8 minutes a game are critical to our success
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Oct 24, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Gortat has been an important player, yes.
Dwight gets in foul trouble. Newsflash.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
dont like him
they should bring him to orl make him sit on the bench and mop DH’s sweat for 5 years. It aint about not being ready, you declared yourself eligible in the draft for the NBA, you get drafted..you play! If not pull out, the fact he didnt pull out dwight should give him a concussion on his arrival to the NBA
Wow, you're bitter.
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by magicfaninTN on Oct 24, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for the prescription, doc.
I’m not joining you. Disappointed that the pick was blown that year? Yup. Bitter? No need.
Calling for violence against someone for making a personal decision of this nature? Waaaay overblown, imho.
Please don't simply ignore the stats when making your case, 'cause "...your eyes lie to you sometimes..."
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by magicfaninTN on Oct 24, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the prognosis myself
Then again, Fran did absorb the anger I felt towards Otis in general for selecting him over granger in the first place. So he did take one for the team in that regard, as even with his more polished game back then, I felt it was a huge blunder not to take Granger.
If you were a man I would punch you, right in the mouth.
Did he ever actually declare for the draft?
Or did he just become eligible by default?
by eltharion_doa on Oct 24, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Im assuming thats how it works no?
Im pretty sure what ive seen/heard you have to declare yourself to be eligible. And thats exactly what he did…unless his fiance told him that barcelona was gonna have an NBA franchise and draft him instead then he had no reason being involved in the draft…cost us a pick…bottom line!
Except he didn't cost the Magic a pick. He's still an asset.
And international players are automatically eligible for the draft. They don’t have to declare. It’s up to the teams to do their due diligence.
by Evan Dunlap on Oct 24, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No, you only have to declare if you’re a college student. A player is eligible if any of the following are true:
For American players:
1. They have graduated from college and have no NCAA eligibility
2. Their original college class has graduated and they have no NCAA eligibility
3. They have not attended college and graduated high school 4 years ago
4. They have played as a professional outside the NBA
5. They have declared as an Early Entry
For international players:
1. They are 22 or older
2. They have played professionally in the US outside the NBA
3. They have declared as an Early Entry
Honor is no substitute for victory.
People can be so ignorant.
It’s absolutely astonishing. He did what people wanted LeBron to do, which is stay at home and play for his hometown. Where his family and friends were. You guys are just mad because it burned the Magic, but y’know what? The writing was on the wall prior to the draft. It was the organization’s failing, not Vasquez’s.
If he’s ready to come over now, then more power to him. Whatever team he ends up on, I wish him well.
I love LeBron. No really, I love Jameer.
While I agree that it was the organization's failing, I see no comparison between Fran and LeBron's decision.
Fran’s situation, as far as the Magic is concerned, is a business decision since he has trade values. it is not out of bitterness, but I don’t want him on my hometown team until I am assured of his maturity (is there a certificate of maturity that can be issued?) since I don’t want to be burnt again by his idiocy or lack of commitment or both.

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