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Orlando Magic News for January 7th: Tension between Stan Van Gundy and His Players?

  • Magic Players, Van Gundy Divided?

    Alex Kennedy of HOOPSWORLD writes that the Orlando Magic's current losing streak may have created a "rift" between the players and head coach Stan Van Gundy.

    When asked if that's a sign of Stan being disconnected from the team, [Dwight] Howard hesitated before denying the players and coach are divided. But players have confided privately they rarely talk to the head coach. Sure, he yells at practice and addresses the group but there are no conversations and he's not talking to the players on a personal level.

    Kennedy also says that Van Gundy's assertion that the team doesn't have a vocal leader upset Howard, who believes he fills that role.

  • We’re sticking together!

    On his blog, Howard writes that the team is struggling, but is working hard to overcome their frustration on offense. He adds:

    This is a different team than the team than the one we had last season. We have to get that through our minds and everybody else does too. You can’t expect us to do those same things because it’s a totally different team. But one thing I will say is that we’re together and all of the situations that have happened on the court and in the locker room we’re going to remain together.

  • Morning Shootaround: Toronto Getting The Best Of Orlando

    NBA Playbook diagrams the Magic's myriad problems against Toronto, including poor defensive rotations and Howard's turnovers.

  • Chat with John Hollinger

    John Hollinger of ESPN.com thinks Orlando's struggles this year are partially due to Howard, and offers these observations from last night's game as evidence:

    Let me put something out there -- was it me or did Dwight Howard look a half-step slow out there? The turnovers, the inability to dominate [Andrea] Bargnani, a couple slow rotations -- most notably when [Marco] Belinelli drove in from the 3-pt line for a layup and a relative nearby Howard couldn't react in time to get the block. He's still better than 90% of the league, but I don't think he's playing at least year's level.

  • Grading The NBA Offseason Signings (Part 2)

    Gerald Narciso of Dime Magazine isn't thrilled with how the Magic's signing of Brandon Bass has worked out so far.

    Why they signed him: Bass had a strong showing in last year’s playoffs as a member of the Mavs. GMs love the fact Bass is a big body and extremely explosive. His energy can really get his teammates and crowd going. Orlando probably envisioned Bass and Howard being one of the most athletic big man combos in the League.

    What they’ve gotten: Bass went from playing over 20 mpg in the beginning of the season when Rashard Lewis was suspended to sporadically seeing time. Bass has already racked up 12 DNP-CDs (did not play – coach’s decision). While Bass is probably just a victim of the numbers game, it clearly hasn’t worked out for him so far. Grade – C minus

  • Bryant, James lead pack in final All-Star ballot update

    Howard leads Eastern Conference centers in the latest All-Star balloting returns. He's a lock to start his third consecutive All-Star game, barring injury. Vince Carter still trails Allen Iverson at the guard spot, and it appears unlikely that he will make the team as a starter.

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Let me put something out there — was it me or did Dwight Howard look a half-step slow out there? The turnovers, the inability to dominate [Andrea] Bargnani, a couple slow rotations — most notably when [Marco] Belinelli drove in from the 3-pt line for a layup and a relative nearby Howard couldn’t react in time to get the block. He’s still better than 90% of the league, but I don’t think he’s playing at least year’s level.

Why does he look a step slow?

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by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

How many times have there been "rifts" between SVG and the players?

Seriously, the media looks for anything at any time to try to put Stan (or any coach, really) on the hotseat. I wonder if Phil is on the hotseat after the Lakers lost to the Clippers, or if Bellicheck will be on the hotseat if the Patriots lose on Sunday.

by slickw143 on Jan 7, 2010 5:42 PM EST reply actions  

I dunno

I think those two guys are very different coaches, and very different situations, to Stan. Phil’s got more rings than anyone, Belicheck’s a local hero with three titles behind him…Stan isn’t. He’s just not that guy. Doesn’t have the resume, doesn’t have the record.

This team is so much better than it’s playing, there has to be a reason. I’m not saying it’s Stan, but as the coach, he’s the one that’s accountable for getting the performance from the players. And right now, he’s not doing his job. Maybe there’s truth to the story and maybe there isn’t, but even in the NBA you don’t get the same story repeated over and over without there being someone with knowledge sourcing it. So there’s probably a fair bit of truth to Kennedy’s story – and now we’re not winning, little fragments of things that aren’t generally important might be becoming amplified.

I have to agree with Hollinger – Howard just doesn’t look right. He looks like he’s phoning it in at times, on both ends of the floor. And he’s been in the NBA long enough that his fundamentals should be so much better, frankly. Tim Duncan was a better basketball player at this point of his career – Howard’s a better athlete and a bigger star, but he’s not as good as Duncan was…

I think a lot of the problem right now is actually Carter – he’s using the ball too much and not using it well. We seem to be relying on his game a lot – when he plays well, we can win with him dominating the ball, but when he doesn’t, we really struggle. On good days, we can overcome it but on bad days…

by eltharion_doa on Jan 7, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously I was making an exaggeration.

I was pointing out how silly and shortsighted the media is at times. Stan seems to be a favorite whipping boy among some media types. I remember people calling for his job when the Magic were 6-3 after losing to Cleveland.

by slickw143 on Jan 7, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hoopsworld is not "media."

Though your point is well taken.

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by magicfaninTN on Jan 7, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL, it happens anytime there's something wrong with the Magic.

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by erivera7 on Jan 8, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Alex Kennedy

I like Alex and he’s typically doing a pretty good job as a young writer at Hoopsworld, but in this case he needs to give up the junior psychologist schtick. Articles like this are why Hoopsworld often gets dismissed with a roll of the eyes.

 It seems he was looking for an angle in the way he wrote this article and fished for quotes. I think he misses the coach speak inherent in SVG’s remarks. Stan is calling them out without naming names and Kennedy seems to miss that dynamic and is looking for some big coach-player issue.

"We'll figure it out. The sky's not falling." ~Otis Smith

by magicfaninTN on Jan 7, 2010 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

I think a few other sources said similar tho. Not that I’m worried. SVG is a terrific coach, the players should listen.

by derekk on Jan 8, 2010 2:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not arguing, but what other sources.

I haven’t seen them. I see signs that point to the players tuning out Stan, but I don’t remember others reporting on it…..unless the were quoting Kennedy.

"We'll figure it out. The sky's not falling." ~Otis Smith

by magicfaninTN on Jan 8, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

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