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Toronto Raptors 108, Orlando Magic 103

The Toronto Raptors' balanced offensive attack and deft ball movement proved too much for the Orlando Magic Wednesday night, as Orlando dropped its third straight game by a 108-103 final. The Raptors held an 18-point lead--their largest of the game--at the end of the third quarter before Orlando battled back in the fourth, cutting their deficit to two with 43 seconds to play off a Vince Carter dunk. Jameer Nelson drove into the lane and shoveled the ball to Carter, who saw the seam in the defense and attacked it. Needing a stop in order to regain possession with a chance to win, Orlando forced Hedo Turkoglu into shooting a contested, off-balance three-pointer falling into the Magic's bench. Turkoglu's wild shot missed long and caromed to the right wing, where it squirted out-of-bounds off a Magic player's fingertips. From there, the game devolved into a free-throw shooting contest, and a dejected Magic squad retreated to the locker room, with some players ducking out before the media had a chance to speak with them.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Raptors92117.762.3%29.67.415.3
Magic91113.348.0%43.223.315.4
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

Orlando's previous two losses were due to a lack of effort and focus. Tonight, They played a much better game. The Magic ran their offense through a struggling Dwight Howard, but it paid dividends early, as the attention the Raptors paid him accounted for 12 of the Magic's first 15 points. Howard scored 9 himself, and drew a defensive three-second technical foul on Chris Bosh, who parked himself on the left side of the lane too long while waiting for Howard to make a move. Carter converted that free throw. Finally, Howard drew the defense away from Jameer Nelson, who drove for an easy layup.

It was obvious Howard was trying to make things happen, and his eagerness led to his making some pretty silly passes on the interior. Credit him for looking for cutters--heck, credit his teammates for doing something productive away from the ball!--but he really shouldn't try threading the needle to a teammate 3 feet away from him, with a crowd of defenders surrounding him. That's not smart basketball.

The Magic's offense struggled tonight in part due to Howard's 9 turnovers, but another component was their inaccuracy from three-point range. Rashard Lewis, who led all scorers with 24 points, sank 5 treys in 10 attempts. His teammates combined to shoot 4-of-21. You might look at the fourth-quarter scoring that helped Orlando get to within striking distance and assume it managed to rally behind timely three-balls, but you'd be wrong. The Raptors couldn't keep their hands to themselves in the fourth quarter and were in the penalty very early on, leaving the door open for Orlando to score without time coming off the clock. The foul situation partially explains how J.J. Redick managed to miss 9 of his 14 shot attempts but still score 22 points.

The errant three-point shooting raised the question of why Ryan Anderson, connecting on 38% of his treys this year and 47% against the Raptors in previous meetings, didn't play at all tonight. I suppose coach Stan Van Gundy wanted to keep the hot-handed Lewis in the game at power forward for as long as possible, and wanted the more athletic Bass to defend Chris Bosh and Amir Johnson. Still, a few minutes with Lewis at small forward--defending Turkoglu, whom he should be able to handle--Anderson and power forward, and Bass at center might have been worth a look. Anderson does a lot of his long-range damage as a trailer in transition, and the Raptors often paid too much attention to dribble-penetration on the Magic's fast breaks, which led to plenty of open fast-break threes. You see where I'm headed here.

So Orlando's effort was there for most of the night, and they capitalized on the Raptors' silly fouls in the fourth quarter. But the Magic simply could not rotate quickly enough on the defensive end, and the Raptors punished them with excellent ball-movement and execution. With combo guard Jarrett Jack, point guard Jose Calderon, and the point forward Turkoglu on the floor together, Toronto found and exploited all the holes in Orlando's defense. 31 assists on 39 shots for Toronto, with the aforementioned trio of ballhandlers tallying 19 itself. The ball rarely "got stuck" in Toronto's offense. Few broken plays, few bad shots, and a lot of player movement. It all added up to a tidy 108 points on 91 possessions and 62.3% effective field goal shooting.

Although the offense struggled tonight, I thought Nelson played another great game. 16 points, 8 assists, and no turnovers in 30 minutes this evening for the team co-captain, who did his best to orchestrate the offense and rarely settled for bad shots. His decision-making has been a bright spot during the losing streak: 22 assists to 3 turnovers in 93 minutes. Solid.

Carter wasn't as solid. 2-of-7 for 7 points, and he can't get anything to fall for him. He's also getting himself into foul trouble, further limiting his effectiveness. I wonder if shutting him down for a game or two would help his recently sprained left ankle, not to mention his shooting stroke.

The Magic have every right to be frustrated right now. On a night when their starters played well, the reserves came up empty. Redick scored 22, yes, and Brandon Bass made the most of his scant playing time--at center, no less, with Marcin Gortat sitting the entire second half--with activity on the offensive low-post. And unlike the last 2 games of the losing streak, it was the defense that struggled. The Magic can't get anything going right now, can't sustain any sort of run or energy. They're all over the place.

Yet it's not time for GM Otis Smith to make a move. Personnel isn't Orlando's problem. And acquiring a new player, via trade or free-agent signing, would only further disrupt a team that needs some balance. The only consistency they've had of late? Consistently goofing in the second and third quarters, with a -38 differential in those periods during this losing streak.

It's a frustrating time for the Magic, who are facing their first meaningful three-game losing streak since the 2007/08 season. Orlando lost 3 in a row near the tail end of last season, largely because they had locked-in the third seed in the Eastern Conference and elected to rest Lewis, Turkoglu, and Howard, who had nagging injuries. Van Gundy needs to find answers, and quickly, because the schedule for the rest of January is a bear. This stretch of 5 straight games against mediocre teams would have been a great opportunity for Orlando to build momentum before embarking on a difficult road trip. Instead, the Magic are 2-3 and fading fast.

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I don't wanna pank

Bleeding Blue Black and Silver for 20 of my 23 years.

by FLYNN47 on Jan 6, 2010 11:47 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Ignore typo... Too upset to type properly..

Bleeding Blue Black and Silver for 20 of my 23 years.

by FLYNN47 on Jan 6, 2010 11:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don't wanna panic yet..,

But I really feel the urge to kill some kittens…

Bleeding Blue Black and Silver for 20 of my 23 years.

by FLYNN47 on Jan 6, 2010 11:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

+1

Purely awesome AB :)

Bleeding Blue Black and Silver for 20 of my 23 years.

by FLYNN47 on Jan 7, 2010 1:32 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Geez... I better stick with killing ugly dogs for now

That’s one ferocious kitty.

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Jan 7, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

is this real life? D:

why is this happening to us??

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Jan 6, 2010 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

It's paybak for all those little old ladies you robbed.

Loco por volver a verte, estoy aqui sentado y solito.
Mi corazon ya no responde, porque ya no estoy contigo.

by Diosnomeama on Jan 7, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

*payback

Loco por volver a verte, estoy aqui sentado y solito.
Mi corazon ya no responde, porque ya no estoy contigo.

by Diosnomeama on Jan 7, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

it's not that bad

the Lakers just lost to the Clippers

by LibNat on Jan 7, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

lulz

that did make me feel a little better

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Jan 7, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not the end of the world.

There’s still more than a half the season to go.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 3:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Only in the strictest sense of mathematics

Otherwise, no.

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Jan 7, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright I’m gonna be positive for once even though this team has been stinking it up as of late. I was thrilled to see Jameer be engaged and aggressive tonight. I have a sneaky feeling that SVG may be relying on him to step it up as a leader of this squad. Tonight was by far his most aggressive night of the year. I also got a throwback #24 Reggie Theus jersey made at the game tonight, so I’m stoked about that.

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Jan 7, 2010 12:02 AM EST reply actions  

+1

I agree if Meer can distribute the ball like he did tonight the Magic will be in good shape.
VC is frozen right now. He is getting out played by JJ right now.

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by Wmillion on Jan 7, 2010 1:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Jameer was effective tonight (8 assists, no turnovers)

but why did he play only 30 minutes? That left Jason Williams to play 0 points for 17 minutes and JJ Redick to go 2-8 on threes in over 28 minutes (when he plays that much, the Magic are in trouble)!

Pietrus was putrid tonight: 16 minutes, 0 points, 0/3 on threes. I guess he’s coming down to earth. It would not surprise me if he ended up shooting 35% or less on 3PTs for the season.

by LibNat on Jan 7, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

I think JJ played pretty well. He wasnt shooting great, but he was going to the line alot, and scored 22 points, 3 rebs, and no turns – and showed his usual heart and hustle. Big problem is NINE turnovers by Dwight Howard. That is absolutely ridiculous – and cost us the game. Where was Anderson?? Ryan Anderson when given minutes can score 15+ points a game consistently and out-rebound practically everyone on the offensive end. Given a DNP? At t his rate start Anderson instead of Barnes and Peitrus.

by i2ambler on Jan 7, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it's a good point you make about Anderson

I wonder if anyone has asked Stan about why he did not play.

by LibNat on Jan 7, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Stan is a bit too tied to the notion of having two backup PFs...

…and using them in different situations. As far as I’m concerned, that should be over soon — Anderson is clearly, consistently better than Bass. He’s always the better of the two choices. Not even saying Bass is bad — Bass is limited, but not bad. Anderson’s just better.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Jan 7, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that Anderson needs to play but Bass needs minutes here and there.

Can’t just leave Brandon to rot on the bench. That wouldn’t help the team in the long-term.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 8, 2010 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, sure.

Foul trouble, injuries (I hope not), garbage time. But when things matter, I want to see Ryan out there 100% of the time.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Jan 8, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d rather see a more stable rotation too. Players play better when they know they’re going to play + are given consistent minutes/role.

Switching the two back and forth is doing more damage than good.

by NBR on Jan 8, 2010 7:48 AM EST up reply actions  

When Redick plays that much, the Magic are in trouble?

You couldn’t be further from the truth. J.J. is one of the few players that has given a consistent effort.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

you seriously want JJ to play 30 mins a game?

If he were good enough to play that much, then he would be a starter. He’s not and never will be. And he’s also no Manu Ginobili.

When he plays so many minutes, it means that the other players aren’t producing and Stan is forced to use him, not because he’s a good player.

by LibNat on Jan 7, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Except that he HAS been a good player this season.

To me, a “good player” is a player who plays well. Redick has played well all year — you could argue he’s been better than Carter this season. Now, obviously, he’s not a starter, because we have Carter, who came into the season as a starter, and who presumably has a higher ceiling. But Redick has actually been quite good this season — a very efficient scorer, not a big volume passer, but solid.

When you’re saying “the other players aren’t producing and Stan is forced to use him”, isn’t there an unspoken end to that train of thought? Namely, “…because Stan thinks Redick might produce better than those other players”? And what do you know — he did exactly that last night.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Jan 7, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said that, did I.

All I’m saying is that Redick is one of the few players on the Magic that has given a consistent effort from the start of the season to now. And he is a good player, despite your preconceived biases that he’s not. J.J. is 2nd on the team is TS% (60.7%), and eFG% (55.2%), 1st on the team in Offensive Rating/6th in the NBA (123), plays steady defense even if he isn’t necessarily better than average, and more. So basically, nothing you’ve stated can be backed up with empirical evidence because it’s not true. Redick is and has been a good player for Orlando this year.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 8, 2010 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

only $75 bucks…it’s on special at the Arena

Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.

by KingJafi on Jan 7, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, Nelson played well.

I thought he was a bright spot, too.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

this team suffers from a case of FALSE CONFIDENCE

After going through their unexpected playoff run all the way to the NBA Finals last season,

coming back from the brink to beat the Celtics in two straight games in the semifinals and then beating the heavily favored Cavaliers in the ECF,

the Magic players this season believe that they can overcome anything. That would explain their current mentality, i.e., they can cruise through games, turn it on when they need to, and and think that everything will be all right in the end.

What’s unusual is that normally only teams that have won championships would think this way. The Shaq-Kobe Lakers and the Billups-led Pistons come to mind.

Yet the Magic team has the confidence (or arrogance if one wants to be negative) of a championship team without having won a championship. Go figure.

by LibNat on Jan 7, 2010 1:14 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Pretty much.

The mentality needs to change, and quickly.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 3:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

the good news is that this is mental/psychological and not something that can’t be overcome like injuries. The Magic may be the least vulnerable to health/age issues of all the contenders.

by LibNat on Jan 7, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you're not going to win many games when your bench shoots 26% on 7-27 FG.

The FT shooting was awesome, Jameer & Shard were awesome and that’s pretty much where the awesomeness ceased. It’s like they don’t have that fight in them until they’re down by double-digits.

Dwight had a good game but the 9 TO’s hurt, a lot. Some of those are Dwight getting it stolen under the basket where he should be more cautious and some of the TO’s were our own players passing the ball to Dwight when he’s got 2 defenders on him before the pass even reaches him.

Right now I’m trying not to think that Turkey-Glue was the bond that held the team together. I really wish we would’ve signed Odom instead of Gortat & Bass. I like both Gortat & Bass but for the amount of time they play it seems like wasted money. With Lamar we would’ve had tons of minutes and production at both the 5 & 4 spots.

The current team can still win the title this year, we’ve seen glimses of how good the Magic are when they’re clicking like the second half of the T-Wolves game where the Magic shot 78.4% FG. It just would’ve been nice to have a powerhouse in Odom who can play the 4 & 5 so well & get rebounds.

by Warlando on Jan 7, 2010 1:39 AM EST reply actions  

Tonight’s game was one of the few that Rashard actually showed up for in this season. He played for 40 minutes, which is what he needs to do more often instead of the 33 minutes per game he’s averaging so far. The team needs him.

Gortat is insurance for Howard. But if Howard goes down, I don’t see how the Magic can win a championship (just like Kobe for the Lakers, Lebron for the Cavs). So the insurance may be unnecessary and your idea might have made sense.

by LibNat on Jan 7, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't think Dwight had a good game at all.

He fouled, he pouted, he turned the ball over way too much and he didn’t make the type of defensive impact he made against the Raptors when he had 8 blocks. Part of that was the foul trouble in the second half, but part of that was a lack of energy. Howard isn’t dominating on defense and it’s affecting the team, as a whole.

As for your suggestion about Odom, that wouldn’t have been a smart signing at all (or realistic).

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 3:09 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL, saw that coming.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Dwight has been a pretty lame duck all year..

The only reason he is a ‘superstar’ is because there really aren’t any other decent centers in the east.. Hell.. in the league.. Think about it.. Who does Howard really even have to play against? Bargnani? Hibbert? Noah? Love? 100 year old Oneils? Dude barely scored 10 points against the likes of Hibbert , Love, and Noah. 9, 9, and 10. He had more turnovers than points against boston.. FIVE points to SEVEN turnovers..

He is averaging 4.5 turns over the last 6 games. Congrats to him for getting alot of rebounds, and blocks, and.. a lot of goal tends.. we need rebounds and blocks – but he needs to have an offensive game too. Its not like he is doing better defensively this year than last year.. his rebounds and blocks are slightly down, and his scoring is down by like 4 points. He has great potential.. but for now, he is not living up to it… and we cant blame it on his age anymore. He’s 23 or 24 now. He needs to start walking the walk, instead of just talking the talk.

by i2ambler on Jan 7, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, again, Howard's per minute numbers are roughly in line with last year's.

Dwight just hasn’t been consistent with his effort lately.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought Lewis, Nelson, and Redick played well.

Everyone else, not so much. The Magic aren’t playing smart, at times, and that falls with Howard because he had some ill-advised turnovers. I also thought the Raptors bench did a good job of providing a boost and nullifying the impact J.J. and Brandon Bass had in the game. To be honest, I thought Orlando gave much better effort last night but the team can’t do it in spurts. It needs to be a consistent, team-wide thing and the Magic aren’t getting that right now. Back-to-backs haven’t been kind to Orlando and yesterday was no different.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 3:06 AM EST reply actions  

Need to stop playing Gortat and Lewis together.

Lost the lead at that point. Their defensive combo stats are pretty bad.

by magicfaninTN on Jan 7, 2010 3:55 AM EST reply actions  

gortat cant hold his own

when we try to play gortat without lewis our defense is crap. We always have to bring lewis right back in to help on d. I dont know if it is gortat not playing well or anderson but that is what i see.

by Vanek on Jan 7, 2010 6:06 AM EST up reply actions  

actually the numbers show that Gortat + Lewis

gives a stinker of an Adj +/- between the units’ offensive and defensive per possession ratings…..somewhere in the -40 range.

Not sure why those two together don’t work, but…..

by magicfaninTN on Jan 7, 2010 7:13 AM EST up reply actions  

That's interesting.

Both are usually well-regarded as defenders but perhaps Gortat’s lack of offensive game is what’s hurting that particular combination. I think that’s where Bass could be useful at the center position.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven't had time to examine the matchups they were facing

But in all the 5-man units that had Gortat and Lewis together, only one of them produced positive numbers in Adj +/- no matter how many other variations of players were included.

"We'll figure it out. The sky's not falling." ~Otis Smith

by magicfaninTN on Jan 7, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i was at the game last night

I was ready to leave at the end of the third, but im glad i didnt. In the fourth i saw what the real magic could do when they really started to get defensive. The arena was almost the loudest i have ever heard it coming down the stretch and the fans really started to get the team goign. I know the Magic arent playing well but nothing makes me more mad than to hear our own so called fans to boo our team. What do you think that does for our chemistry and energy. I think we are going to be fine , we are a godd team and have the talent, shots just arnt falling. I think we did really well with Bass in the game, he made some really critical plays and stops down the stretch and i really like him and dwight on the floor at the samme time. Put Bass guarding the center and let howard help on d. Maybe it just looked godd with bargani and bosh but it was a good look. Lewis played outstanding last night as well. OUR PLAYERS HEAR ENOUGH NEGATIVITY, IF YOU WANT TO BE NEGATIVE DONT BRING IT TO THE ARENA.that last play where they threw the ball in the guy should have been called for backcourt violation but no, also hedo lowered his shoulder and rammed our guy at the end of the game, but what happens??? we are called for the fouo (Thats vintage hedo). I think its time to get rid of gortat and get some help somewhere else. We had a huge lead at the begginning of the game and gortat came in and threw it away. Bass can play the five better than gortat in my opinion.

by Vanek on Jan 7, 2010 6:01 AM EST reply actions  

Numbers do not support Bass at the 5

Defensive rating tends to go in the toilet.

by magicfaninTN on Jan 7, 2010 6:18 AM EST up reply actions  

That's somewhat true.

But it’s better for Bass to play the 5 than the 4, strictly for continuity on offense.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless he plays with Gortat.

Then it seems to work for some reason. More often than not.

"We'll figure it out. The sky's not falling." ~Otis Smith

by magicfaninTN on Jan 7, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's face it -- it's better for Bass to not play.

I’m sick of this notion that, because Bass is good enough to make a hypothetical NBA team’s rotation — which he is — we have to dole out space to him in OUR rotation. As far as backup PFs go, Anderson is simply better — he’s a better scorer, a better rebounder, and he’s better for team defense. It’s not a matter of scenarios — just play the best guy already. Meanwhile, we COULD play Bass at center… but that’s a desperate move. We have a real backup center, and a pretty good one.

SVG insisting on playing Bass just because he can reminds me of Vince Carter’s shot selection. It’s nice to know that you can manufacture a 39% shot out of nothing at will. Sometimes, that’s a good skill to have. But don’t do it all the time, when nobody’s making you.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Jan 7, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's rest Vince 'til he's really better.

unless the problem is that he’s getting old….if that’s it, then let’s rest him until March.

by magicfaninTN on Jan 7, 2010 7:14 AM EST reply actions  

The outlier watch continues.

DeMar Derozan started off 6-6 before missing his last shot, and most of those 6 FG’s (if not all, last night was a blur) were jumpers. I don’t even know how that’s possible, even if he’s in a gym by himself.

I turned the game off after Dwight picked up his 5th foul in the 3rd. I figured the Magic would rally and fall short, and my blood pressure just could not handle that.

I also wonder if Stan is still rationing Jameer’s minutes due to his knee, because I thought Jason was left in there for a long time in the first half when Nelson was playing really well in the first quarter. He seems to be the only one who has a good feel for getting Dwight involved in the offense this year (unless Dwight coughs it up 9 times…). Even Rashard’s trademark feed to Dwight in the paint from the top of the key hasn’t been used as often or as successfully as the last two years. Maybe that’s due to the entire offense sometimes seeming out of sync, but timing just hasn’t been there routinely. Too many difficult shots are being taken. I don’t care if Pietrus buries a fadeaway jumper from 19 feet with 15 seconds on the shot clock, it’s a terrible shot.

I’m getting worried about Dwight’s inability to dominate on both ends of the court in the same game this year. He’s had a handful of games where he’s put it all together, and a lot of those came against the likes of the Nets and Knicks and Sixers. We’ll find out a lot about this team in the next few weeks.

by slickw143 on Jan 7, 2010 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

Most of DeRozan's jumpers were from mid-range, which is the shot you want him to take.

But like you said, DeMar made them. Seems to be a running theme lately (outlier performances).

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually becoming optimistic for the team despite the recent losses

Jameer seems to be coming back into form, and I think once he really starts going, so will the Magic. I’ve noticed in the last couple of games, Jameer is breaking down the defenses once again with his dribble drive, and that will add yet another dimension to the inside-out game to make it easier for Dwight and the 3 point shooters to get their points. In a few games, I expect the offense will start thrumming and regain its efficiency.

Also hopefully, Barnes’ hustle will start to rub off on the other starting guys as well where there will be a few more fast breaks and easy points.

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Jan 7, 2010 11:15 AM EST reply actions  

Nelson and Barnes have been playing well lately but not Howard or Carter.

It just never seems like the team can get on the same page.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's an opposing thought

The Magic a concentrating too much on getting the ball in to Dwight and not taking as many threes early in the game. They need to shot (and make) threes to open up the middle for Dwight. Teams are collapsing on the lane and swatting the ball away before Dwight can shot or pass, or else he panics and trys an impossible shot.

The Magic need to get back to the balance to make the one-in-four-out work.

And maybe we should give Vince some time off and see if out bragged about deep bench can perofrm.

by NC Magic Fan on Jan 7, 2010 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

I'm saying they are not mixing it up.

It is too predictable right now. The Magic set up, go to Dwight and the defense collapses before D12 can do his thing. Result, 9 turnovers. When you lose a close game its not necessarily defense or shot selection, but giving the bad guys extra attempts while losing a chance to score. Basically a 4 point turnaround. Mix it up with a few around the horn passes with Rashard or Jameer popping a three. Keep the opposing defense honest. How many times did you see a tough pass to Dwight with a 3-point shooter wide open on the opposite side. It is just too predictable.

by NC Magic Fan on Jan 7, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, okay.

In that sense, I agree. There does need to be some variety.

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by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Still finding the rhythm... at least last night we failed in a different way.

We got the ball to Jameer and Rashard, and they both responded for us… let’s hope that fact doesn’t get swept under the rug in the general pessimism. Dwight continues to struggle with turnovers. And while Vince didn’t shoot us out of the game, he can’t just become a non-factor like that.

You know, it’ll all come together. By this time next month, we’ll have forgotten all about this issue. There’s a reason it’s so hard to win 60 games.

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by 3.3seconds on Jan 7, 2010 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, there's no need to panick until after the All-Star break.

We don’t have any major injuries right now, we’re still in the top 3 of the East. San Antonio’s been in worse positions than this at this time of the year and have gone on to win titles. Of course, that team had already been there, done that, so no one questioned when they hit a slump in the first half of the year. Point remains that it’s not like the season is a lost cause and we need to go into “well, what should we do NEXT year” mode already.

I think most fans of the “elite” teams this year would all say “We should have a better record than we do right now”, except for some objective Laker fans who are probably saying “If we hadn’t played the vast majority of the early part of our schedule at home, we’d have a worse record right now”. Each contender has flaws this year, and it’s really going to be interesting seeing who overcomes them come playoff time.

by slickw143 on Jan 7, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember when some people around here were confident the Magic would win 65+ games with ease.

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by erivera7 on Jan 7, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I Hate This

It makes me sick to say this, but if things don’t change, SVG is going to have to go. Here’s why I hate it: Stan made this team a winner. But when he asked D12 how to fix things and Howard told him to stop being negative, it forced van Gundy to stop being himself. Now he can’t coach this team. It’s a total catch-22. Everybody says that Stan is an X/O guy, and this is precisely what has crippled him. When he figured that he can’t coach his team with his bad-guy persona, he removed it from the script just like a bad play. Now he can’t use it, and he can’t go back to it. And the players can’t respond to the new, soft version of him.

There are only 2 options for success. 1. SVG drops the nice-guy crap. It isn’t him and it never won him or his teams anything. 2. Stan leaves.

It all sucks.

by MagicPhan on Jan 7, 2010 7:34 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

If Van Gundy leaves, then the Magic can enjoy returning to mediocrity.

I’m exaggerating a bit but that would be one of the worst things that could happen to Orlando.

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by erivera7 on Jan 8, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd start the next game with the bench players

If I were Van Gundy. At least they give effort and don’t bring the “whatever” attitude.

by Raptorel on Jan 8, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The last game the bench didn't produce.

While Jameer, Dwight, Rashard and Barnes contributed (although Dwight still played stupidly at times). We won the first quarter against Toronto. The thing about the Magic has been that the only thing that’s been consistent in this recent slump has been Vince’s poor shooting (and Dwight’s ineffectiveness offensively, but to a lesser extent).

It makes it difficult to say, “Okay guys, work on this,” when one game that facet looks good while the next game they look lost (team defense immediately comes to mind). It is a matter of effort, but I don’t think you can isolate it to just the starters or a specific player. The whole team seems to be suffering from some kind of malaise, just at various times.

by slickw143 on Jan 8, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

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