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Orlando Magic 91, Detroit Pistons 86

The Orlando Magic squandered a 15-point lead against a dismal Detroit Pistons squad today, but staged a fourth-quarter rally and came away with a hard-fought, costly win by a 91-86 final. The bench, almost by necessity, did most of the heavy lifting, scoring 47 of Orlando's points. J.J. Redick led the team with 17 points, including three crucial free throws to extend Orlando's lead to 4 points with 1:16 to play. Previously mired in a 6-for-26 slump, Mickael Pietrus shot 4-of-6 from the field to score 14 points, but twisted an ankle after making a key three-pointer late in the game and now estimates he'll miss the next week's worth of games. He was but the second Magic player to leave the game, as Jameer Nelson hyperextended his left knee in the first quarter and did not return. The Pistons fought their way back with uncharacteristically strong defense and opportunistic scoring off broken plays or offensive rebounds, though Orlando shut their offense down late in the game when it mattered most. The victory assures that coach Stan Van Gundy and his staff will helm the Eastern Conference All-Stars two weeks from today.

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TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Magic85107.654.7%32.811.416.6
Pistons8699.541.8%24.126.113.9
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

Given the talent disparity between the two teams, Orlando should have won this game running away. But the Pistons always give the Magic trouble, and especially in Auburn Hills, so the result shouldn't surprise anyone too much. Dwight Howard looked well on his way to another excellent offensive game against an above-average defender--today, Ben Wallace--early with a whirling dunk, rolling hook, and bank shot. He also dished to a wide-open Rashard Lewis for a three-pointer while on the move, displaying some excellent decision-making. Wallace and the Pistons turned up the defensive pressure and made a point of hacking, grabbing, and generally assaulting Howard whenever he touched the ball the rest of the way. As a result, he missed 4 of his last 5 field goal attempts and shot 18 free throws.

He got away with his own fair share of extra contact too, which I suppose means everything evened out. He committed a foul on 2 of his 5 blocked shots, but neither went called: bopping Jonas Jerebko in the face on the follow-through and kneeing Tayshaun Prince in the groin while swatting his shot away. Were the game called a bit tighter, Howard wouldn't have managed to play 41 minutes, and Orlando probably would have lost. As it is, the game was a 50/50 contest for almost all of the second half.

Detroit could hardly get anything going out of a set offense, which would ordinarily spell doom in a slow-paced game like tonight's. But Jerebko, Wallace, and Jason Maxiell held their own on the glass, combining for 8 offensive rebounds, and it seemed like Detroit caught a lucky bounce on a lot of the ensuing plays. In short, the Pistons tended to out-work the Magic. Given Orlando's history with the Pistons--now 2-13 at The Palace since 2004--it's easy to see why Van Gundy said, "part of me thinks if they put five 10-year-olds in Pistons jerseys out there, we’d struggle," after the win. It's hard to argue with that when Prince short-rims a three-pointer from the right corner, only to watch the ball bounce straight up and in to cut Detroit's deficit to a point with less than a minute to play.

But Orlando's defense held solid on the Pistons' last possession, twice denying Ben Gordon--who has one of the quickest triggers in the NBA, and needs hardly any daylight to shoot--a good look at the basket for what would have been a tying three-pointer. Detroit's offense scrambled, with Gordon throwing a looping pass to the top of the arc to re-set the play. Anthony Johnson, in emergency duty due to Nelson's injury, intercepted the pass and sank the ensuing two free throws to ice the win.

Johnson played well, with two pullup 15-footers in traffic rounding out his scoring at 6. He also grabbed 3 rebounds and handed out 3 assists. However, Redick was the true star of the game. For the second consecutive night, he out-played Vince Carter and earned more minutes as a result.

Carter missed 7 of his 8 shot attempts today, with the one make coming on an alley-oop dunk courtesy of Matt Barnes. I've given up trying to diagnose what's wrong with his shot. Good looks, clean ones, the sort of ones he's built his Hall-of-Fame-caliber career on... but they just miss. Of the 21 players to see the floor tonight, only Pistons rookie Austin Daye scored fewer points than Carter; he shot 0-for-2 in 4 minutes.

Orlando has tomorrow off before hosting the Milwaukee Bucks on Tuesday. Nelson could play, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Jason Williams and Johnson will wind up running the point in that contest.

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by Wmillion on Jan 31, 2010 11:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

long season

Injuries on every roster, hopefully this two are as mild as reported.

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by Wmillion on Jan 31, 2010 11:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Why does the NBA make teams play so many back to backs?

I mean we have already played quite a few and next week we at Bos and home to New Orleans back to back and then at both Cavs/Bulls back to back. Cavs are lucking out wth their schedule vs us.

Quality of games goes down the tubes especially for premier matchup TV games.

by O-Town MagiCane on Jan 31, 2010 11:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Cut the season to 60 games

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by Wmillion on Jan 31, 2010 11:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

That'll never happen.

Owners aren’t going to cut their revenue streams.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

REC'd

as a standard reply to Carter-gripe. I’m not happy with Vince either, but it seems as a community, we’ve well-vocalized r dismay and displeasure. Should be rooting for him to return to form….that would help the team.

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by magicfaninTN on Feb 1, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yes we do

Imo only way way we win the whole deal VC has to return to his normal form.

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by Wmillion on Feb 1, 2010 1:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like even I've got over criticizing Carter.

I mean, I don’t think there’s much help for him at this point — the jumper could come back, but he clearly doesn’t have the capacity to be a threat driving the lane any more. Even in November, when the jumper was (relatively speaking) falling, he was still a 41% shooter.

But that’s been established. I hope he proves me wrong, but if not, he’s been doing this for long enough that we have to assume at this point that this is who he is. It’s not news any more.

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by 3.3seconds on Feb 1, 2010 3:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

IMO, its not just he's shooting.

Yes, he will get over his shooting slump. But his approach to the game. I mean, he is definitely a scorer, but I don’t think he is a good team player. I haven’t seen the Vince that NJ used as Point Guard before. He’s decision making have been very poor.

And i think once he gets he’s shooting back. I’m afraid he will just shoot and shoot all he wants. And leave the rest watching him.

by zakchi on Feb 1, 2010 8:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

EXACTLY

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by magic12ball on Feb 1, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Carter has been a team player, it just hasn't been exemplified on offense.

But he’s tried to concentrate more of his energy on defense, etc.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right now the guy is a non-factor to me. His contract has been slotted in the budget, we have lots of talent on the team to overcome any of his shortcomings, and he can only get better. If the guy gets back to form, it can only be a good thing for the team.

One thing’s for sure, it would be nice to lock down a long home winning streak going into the CLE game.

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by KingJafi on Feb 1, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We’re at 5 now…no reason we can’t make it 9 going into the DAL and CLE weekend. Magic should take the games against MIL, WAS, NOH, and DET.

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by KingJafi on Feb 1, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d like to think they’ve turned a corner since then. :)

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by KingJafi on Feb 1, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Probably won't happen.

Can’t assume anything with the Magic. No win is a guarantee.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I'm going to save my critcism of VC for something that truly warrants it.

Like if he develops a huge heroin addiction, or if we find out he has a penchant for cross dressing or something.

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by Diosnomeama on Feb 1, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

REC

REC, REC

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by Some other guy who does not care on Feb 1, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not really worried about Vince trying to rape somebody.

Mainly because he would probably injure himself and miss even more playing time.

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by Diosnomeama on Feb 1, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Let's just leave it at that.

No need to go further into the subject.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry about that. I should have known that comment might have gone completely wrong.

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by Diosnomeama on Feb 1, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's cool, I just don't want the conversation to get out of hand.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

One great statistic not noted in this report:

Orlando Magic guards in this game combined for 11 assists to 0 turnovers.

by MagicMark on Jan 31, 2010 11:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1
I’ve given up trying to diagnose what’s wrong with his shot.

Go figure. Will be relieved to see it return after the break. Will be concerned if he’s still off late in the spring.

"I’ll go into practice and strangle every single one of them." Kobe's plan to get his teammates engaged after they lost the season series to the Cavs. Leadership.

by magicfaninTN on Feb 1, 2010 12:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Lewis needs more shots.

This is the second consecutive game where Lewis was lights-out, the opposing team had no answer for him, and the Magic did nothing to exploit that. I’m sorry, but when you score 15 points on 7 FG attempts, the question to ask is “why only 7 FG attempts”?

And it was okay against the Hawks, because everyone else was making shots too. But in this game… we needed Lewis. As it turned out, we got through, but going to Lewis might’ve kept things from being so close.

I know Dwight is the no. 1 guy in this offense — we’ve seen that. And we’ve seen how crucial it is — even in games, like tonight, where Dwight didn’t have a great scoring game. But once that’s established, we need to treat Lewis as the no. 2 priority, because if Dwight isn’t killing them on offense, that generally means he’s getting doubled, and Lewis becomes the priority.

And you’ll note how that was true in the first quarter, when Nelson was running the offense… Nelson knows what’s up. Lewis was getting his shots, wide-open. But as soon as Nelson got hurt, that whole plan got abandoned, even though there was no reason to believe it wasn’t still a great plan.

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by 3.3seconds on Feb 1, 2010 3:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Rashard scored 9 points in the first quarter on 3 three pointers but didn't score again until the fourth quarter

I think he attempted just 1 shot in the second and third quarters.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 1, 2010 4:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, according to the nba.com play-by-play...

…Lewis committed 3 offensive fouls, 1 each in the second, third, and fourth quarters.

Officially, though, he had a total of just one shot attempt in the second and third quarters.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 1, 2010 4:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lewis was in foul trouble.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but he played the minutes.

I would understand not giving him the ball inside if that was a concern, but I’m talking about threes.

And it wasn’t just this game — it’s been consistent.

It's a good thing Larry Bird's initials weren't MJ. '80s basketball was confusing enough -- Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan, Marles Jarkley, Mominique Jilkins... Makeem Jolajuwon...

by 3.3seconds on Feb 1, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I bet Vince thinks "I hope I don't miss, I hope I don't miss, I hope I don't miss" on every shot... that's really taking it's toll on his shooting

He should go in the gym and keep on shooting jumpers, off the screen jumpers etc for a long time, until he finds it again. Also study tape.

He said he discovered something about his jumpshot… I wonder what that is.

by Raptorel on Feb 1, 2010 4:20 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think that his main problem,

like van gundy said, he is thinking about it too much and not letting his instincts take over. It doesnt help to have the whole communitty on his case. I think if he just plays his game we will be fine but we need him to return to form. Lets just be glad his defense has been absolutely amazing as of late. He seems to be breaking up lots of defensive plays and always there on that side of the ball. I realy hope he comes back to being the OLD vince.

by Vanek on Feb 1, 2010 5:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

At this point, it's clearly seems like a mental issue for Carter.

I could be wrong, but I can’t give any other explanation for Vince’s struggles on offense.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Magic bench excels once again

Collectively, they scored 47 points on 15 of 31 FGs, 6 of 16 3 PT FGs, and 11 of 11 FTs along with 11 rebounds and 8 assists.

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by Mike from Illinois on Feb 1, 2010 4:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

thats why we have the deepest bench in the NBA

I was watching horford the other night and i couldnt help to hin that if Gortat was on another team, he would be an all star. Horford has no hope against any powerhouse like Howard. Atleast gortat can run tghe floor and play some D

by Vanek on Feb 1, 2010 5:43 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Horford is damn good.

Not sure if Gortat is on that level, more so because he’s a different type of player.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as a big fan of vince its really hard to watch him struggling in his game. i hope he comes back to his old self and play like an allstar the guy who scores 20PPG.

by mrdcab15 on Feb 1, 2010 7:19 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

We don't need him to score 20

We need him to shoot >40% of less than 12 attempts from inside and outside the arc.

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by magicfaninTN on Feb 1, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Magic don't need Carter to score 20 PPG.

Orlando needs to have Vince score with efficiency, that’s all.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

good win & VC

It was a good grinder win we’ll be fine if we can keep getting those wins. I say Jameer should only do about 20 min p/g until we hit about 70 games he needs a little freshing up.

As far a Vince goes I would be happy if he scores only 2 points per game on 1-2 shots but he hustles and pays d like he’s Matt Barnes who I would like us to sign to a 30 year contract. I want him and AJ on my team forever! Both a real pros every night regardless of the situation.

by shaq O'flopapanick on Feb 1, 2010 8:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I remember the Barnes critics

How they were mocking him for saying “I’m a guy who does pretty much all on the court, hustles, rebounds, plays hard D, so I think I’m pretty good at just about everything” or something to that regard. Well…

by Raptorel on Feb 1, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL, a 30 year contract.

Yeah, Carter does deserve credit for his defense (Van Gundy made note of it), which is something he’s been concentrating on more given that he’s been on a prolonged slump on the offensive side of the ball.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

VC will be back

To be honest, right now, I worry everytime Vince touches or shoots the ball, but I still believe he will be back. I didn’t get to see the game last night because it was blacked out on Comcast so I didn’t get to see how he played but this All-Star break should give VC a little bit of a rest and refocus. If he’s still playing bad after the break then…oh well.

by jax502 on Feb 1, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think VC should take the ball to the hole more and regain his rhythm from there...

I don’t care if he gets fouled, he can always practice his shot from the line.

by jax502 on Feb 1, 2010 10:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Easier said than done, though I agree with what you're saying.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome win for the Magic

Needing only to win their next game in order to get SVG into Dallas it was their nemesis whom they had to defeat. They could’ve folded like a lawn chair, especially after giving up a 15 point lead, losing 2 players to injury and 2 starters to foul trouble. These are the type of wins we gutted out last season. There is no question in my eyes this team wants the title ven more than they did last year and they’re all willing to do whatever it takes to get there. Since this recent change to use Dwight as the focus on offense we seem to be playing much better as a team.

by Warlando on Feb 1, 2010 2:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not to lose track of the near future

How will we rotate our roster if Jameer & MP miss several games?
This seems it will only burn out our 34 & 35 year old backup PG’s that much quicker. We will probably get smashed on back-to-backs. If MP misses several games will Rashard see some time at SF and Anderson will see more minutes at PF?

Should we see what SF we can get for Bass? Would it be anyone even worth it?

by Warlando on Feb 1, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

For just “several games,” I don’t think either will be an issue. AJ’s pretty much unused this season. As long as we keep JWill to 30 minutes or less, he can survive a couple weeks as the starter. He won’t be as efficient as when he’s around 20 minutes, but he’ll be serviceable.

With Peaches out, I’d expect to see some of Lewis at the 3 with Anderson at the 4, and also some Redick at the 2 with Carter at the 3. There’s no need to make a trade for a SF at this point.

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by The Dark on Feb 1, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh, I forgot about Carter at the 3. Good call.

by Warlando on Feb 1, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No need to make a trade.

Nelson and Pietrus aren’t expected to miss much time, if at all.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any word on Jameer yet?

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by KingJafi on Feb 1, 2010 3:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Check the news post.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Goin out on a limb...

…a long brittle one at that…VC will score 12pts on 2 drives, 2 threes and a fall-away in about 10 min in the first half at the All-Star Game. And SVG will keep calling his number. He’ll get his confidence back again, hanging out with the fellas…Averages 14-16 pts on 11—12 shots the rest of the way this season and all this will seem like a long time ago come May…

by mike in munich on Feb 1, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Vince Carter isn't in the All-Star game.

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by erivera7 on Feb 1, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From my man Otis...

Otis doesn’t expect Peaches or Merrcat to miss any time, they are listed day to day. Cool beans!!!

by mike in munich on Feb 1, 2010 3:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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