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Orlando Magic 109, Indiana Pacers 98: The Morning After

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  • Denton: Magic-Pacers Postgame Analysis
    John Denton of OrlandoMagic.com breaks down the Magic's win against the Pacers.

  • Denton: Magic-Pacers Notes
    Van Gundy says that Barnes isn't to blame for Orlando's recent slump after he was inserted into the starting lineup a few weeks ago.

    Orlando’s recent slump has corresponded with Matt Barnes moving into the starting lineup for Mickael Pietrus 12 games ago, but head coach Stan Van Gundy said the two shouldn’t be linked in any way. In Barnes’ 11 starts before Wednesday, he had averaged 13.9 points while shooting 55.9 percent from the floor (57 of 102) and 50 percent from 3-point range (16 of 32). Said Van Gundy: ``Matt’s played great, but the team has not. I just have a hard time equating (the struggles) to Matt’s performance because he’s been really good. He’s shooting 57 percent the last nine games and he’s been our second-leading rebounder. He’s really helping us out, but we’re just not getting enough from other guys.’’
  • Journeyman Matt Barnes an Unlikely Leader for Magic
    Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse profiles Magic role-player Matt Barnes, whom one could fairly argue is the Magic's second-most valuable player this year. He's the lone Magic starter to never make an All-Star appearance, and has averaged 12.8 points, 7.8 rebounds, and 2.3 assists in his 19 starts this season.

    "This easily is the most talented team I've ever played for,'' he said. "But the energy level hasn't always been there. I expected our record to be better, but you get what you put out there. You put out a lackluster effort, you'll get beat. And we did.''
  • Game #42 Recap: Math Lessons, Fouling, Mike’s "Defense," Guokas & Faux Comebacks
    Jared Wade of Eight Points, Nine Seconds says Indiana's struggles have allowed him to brush up on his math skills.

    They have trailed by at least 23 points in four of their last six games, and I have spent the bulk of that time trying to calculate things like 52 minus 28 or the difference between 33 and 17. And for this, I must thank you, Pacers. Because aside from the division it takes to split checks six ways or the occasional time zone change, my mathematical abilities are seldom-used and decaying by the day.
  • Magic 109, Pacers 98: Pacers Rally Too Late To Overcome Early Deficit
    Tom Lewis of Indy Cornrows takes a closer look at how the Pacers lost to the Magic.

  • Early hole proves too deep for Pacers
    Mike Wells of The Indianapolis Star reveals that head coach Jim O'Brien wasn't pleased with his team's performance against Orlando.

    Not even coach Jim O'Brien's expletive-filled halftime talk could fix that trend in the Pacers' 109-98 loss to the Orlando Magic on Wednesday night at Amway Arena. [...]

    The season long frustration caught up with O'Brien with his team trailing by 22 points at halftime.

    He gave his team an earful of expletives before exiting the locker room.
  • Magic's Howard gets back at Hibbert, leads win over Pacers
    Roy Hibbert praises Dwight Howard after the game was over.

    Indiana Pacers center Roy Hibbert knew Orlando Magic center Dwight Howard would be pumped up to face him Wednesday after what happened in the previous meeting between them.

    Howard exacted a measure of revenge by dominating the Pacers' second-year center in the Magic's 109-98 victory.

    Howard had 32 points and 11 rebounds in 37 minutes. He went 16-of-24 from the free throw line. He is shooting only 59 percent from the line this season.

    "That was probably one of my worst games in my two years," Hibbert said. "I have to take my hat off to Dwight, who played very aggressively from the start. I knew from the start they were going to go to him."
  • Behind the Box Score, where we like Orlando when it's angry

    Kelly Dwyer was more pleased with Orlando's performance last night than he had been in a while, although Indiana--which "might be the worst first quarter team" Dwyer's ever seen--didn't do itself any favors.

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Jumping with joy

I’m glad to see a win but I’m not jumping with joy. The Magic had 40 points in the first quarter. They had 41 point in the second half. It was a good thing we were playing some one like the Pacers. A win is a win. I hope they can continue.

by far-way on Jan 21, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

A win is a win, that's all that matters.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 21, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that guy from 8 points, 9 seconds.

I especially like the fact he pointed out Matty Goukas broke down the percentages from the different ranges. He, along with Hubie Brown, are my two favorite color commentators in any sport right now.

by slickw143 on Jan 21, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

Hubie Brown is a joy to listen to.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 21, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Several Things

A) I suppose I’m glad they finally got a win and howard redeemed himself against hibbert
B) Vince Carter is just awful right now. 1-7, 1-7 , 2-8 and apparently 17-75 from the field over the past 8 games. I had no idea when you guys did that poll on “most clutch” a few weeks back how VC was our most dominant player with things on the line. That should have rang alarm bells right there that the team was in trouble. The guy is a washed up chump. Hedo was and still is the preferable guy to have the ball with the game on the line. I might even consider bringing McGrady back to get rid of this dope. kidding
C) Jameer is also just awful right now. Not only did he screw up team chemistry by needlessly coming back to the Finals last year, he obviously wasn’t fully recovered then or at the outset of this season and is playing like the 30th best PG in the league right now. Rest him til he can make a jump shot.
D) This team absolutely stinks against elite teams. I only get to watch the Magic when they’re on national tv presumably playing against good teams. As far as I can recall they’ve only won 3 times (ATL twice & Boston) and seemingly lost 8-10. Last year, they were winning it seemed like 75-80% of these games – I just don’t think they’re very good this year, especially against anyone worth a hoot.

All that being said, the playoffs are the only thing that really matters in this league. They showed last year that they can win being the road team in the tourney, but man, they do not inspire any sort of confidence right now.

by bagofballs on Jan 21, 2010 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Jameer just had 13 and 8 on a nationally televised game.

Did you miss that one? He’s been inconsistent since coming back, but to call him “awful” is a bit of an overstatement. Vince’s shooting has been awful, and the team’s energy as a whole has been awful, that’s about it. The rest of the Magic’s issues have stemmed from consistency, and effort is probably the leading factor for that. Either way, they made steps in the right direction last night. They’re hardly the only contending team struggling right now.

by slickw143 on Jan 21, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

do you remember last year against the lakers in the RS?

he singlehandedly won both games. If memory serves me correctly, he had 30+ in both. Then again, I suppose that’s why they let him come back when he shouldn’t have.

And he did get outplayed by Earl Watson again for the second time in 3 weeks. He was an All-Star before his injury last year, playing like a top 5 PG. This year, not so much. One decent game does not a terrible season wipe out.

by bagofballs on Jan 21, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He had 29 and 30 in the two games.

He didn’t get outplayed by Earl Watson, because he wasn’t in for very long against Watson. Watson didn’t burn Nelson. Watson didn’t burn anyone, in fact. He made a couple jumpers (which you are fine with him taking), a really hard lay-up and 3-4 from the line. Nelson only played 23 minutes against Watson’s 40, and some of those minutes were against AJ Price.

The only reasons the final margin was closer than it should’ve been was because Dahntay Jones burned Rashard, Granger got hot in the second half, and the Magic shot 13 3’s (making only 1) in the second half instead of pounding Troy Murphy more with Dwight. Jameer has had a subpar season so far, that much is obvious. But he’s been getting better (not just the LA game), with the exception of last night. As he recovers from the first knee surgery he’s experienced, it is to be expected that he will continue to be inconsistent, and to act surprised when he has a bad game is to be shortsighted. If the inconsistency continues after the All-Star break, then we can start panicking.

by slickw143 on Jan 21, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The Pacers got back into the game because it went for broke and played small-ball.

And it worked because the Magic didn’t matchup well with the personnel on the court, at times.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 21, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

But the Magic had a matchup advantage on the other end with their size and didn’t punish the Pacers to force them out of that lineup possibly. That always drives me nuts in any basketball game when Team A causes a matchup issue on one end, and instead of Team B using that adjustment to their advantage on the other end, Team B just tries to play the same style as Team A. It plays right into that team’s hand and it happens far too often in my observations.

by slickw143 on Jan 21, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 22, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions  

No offense, but you're pretty far off the mark with some of your observations.

Guokas said it best last night, and I agree with him, the Magic know that the regular season is a grind and that the postseason is what matters. It’s clear that Orlando, sometimes it seems, go through the motions because it understands the grand scheme of things. Does it make it acceptable? No, but it’s understandable.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 21, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone just told me that ESPN.com has an article on Insider that says VC is a top 10 candidate to be traded before the deadline. This must be just rumor creation from ESPN’s part cause even though VC hasn’t panned out, the Magic are still pretty vested in the guy being here and trading him would accomplish nothing. If this story was really written that just shows that ESPN is so out of control with their NBA coverage, what’s new…

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by KingJafi on Jan 21, 2010 11:35 AM EST reply actions  

 In my opinion, I really, really doubt VC is traded for many reasons on many different levels. Today’s Insider piece says VC can be had because he has a lot of blame for their slump, that there isn’t a great chemistry with him, and there’s rumblings of a VC-Tmac swap, but he says so himself that HOU is unlikely to do that.

by derekk on Jan 21, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And the market is not big for VC too.

by derekk on Jan 21, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Not right now, no.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 21, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

rumblings of a VC-TMAC swap…are those clowns over at ESPN really serious?? Those rumblings come from one place and that’s the water cooler over at ESPN.com.

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by KingJafi on Jan 21, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yep hence why his name shouldn’t of been mentioned in the first place…hope you guys got a few new Insider subscriptions today…

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by KingJafi on Jan 21, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

If you actually took the time to think clearly, it makes sense.

Let’s say the deal happens (Carter for McGrady). Guess what? The Magic suddenly have a $23 million expiring contract on their hands, which will clear space to be able to go after someone like Joe Johnson or Dwyane Wade (theoretically, in a sign-and-trade). Unlikely, yes, but still possible. It gives Orlando flexibility to find a wing player that’s younger and a better fit for the team in the future.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 21, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

that’s fine…but then you open the door to why did you let Turk leave if Vince can’t even make it to the all star break. but you do bring up a valid point about the numbers. i still cant see it just because we dealing with people and not trading cards…im pretty sure Otis does not want TMac poisoning that locker room.

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by KingJafi on Jan 22, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

No one knew that Carter would play this poorly.

I sure as hell didn’t.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 22, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not a rumor creation, it's legit.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 21, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

The thought.....

of having T-Mac back makes me want to throw up – however strategically (long term) I can see how it would make sense.

by Jaxfann on Jan 22, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Biggest expiring contract in the NBA, I believe.

That’s a nifty asset. It would basically be Otis admitting that acquiring Vince was somewhat of a failure (only somewhat because it did net us Anderson) and that maybe the Magic’s year wouldn’t be this year.

I will say this… at least he’d have the cojones to admit it and not allow that move to affect the team beyond this year.

by slickw143 on Jan 21, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I say if the Magic don’t do damage in the playoffs this year. Vince is gone this summer. Surely Memphis will take him to sell tickets. ;)

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by KingJafi on Jan 22, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Too much money for them.

Plus, they actually have a good, young team right now. Why would they take on an aging, big contract to screw that up? They didn’t pay nearly that much to sign AI, plus they didn’t have to trade away any pieces for it either.

by slickw143 on Jan 22, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I was kidding. Memphis will forever be on my shit list for that Gasol trade. They have been facilitors for teams for years. Plus they actually thought AI would play for them in a reserve role.

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by KingJafi on Jan 22, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That trade turned out okay for the Grizzlies.

Marc Gasol is an All-Star caliber talent.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 22, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

More like salvageable….not OK though…the fact LA had to simply give up M.Gasol to save at least the immediately future of their franchise…still makes it one of the worst if not the worst trade in NBA history.

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by KingJafi on Jan 22, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I completely disagree.

I write for Orlando Pinstriped Post and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Jan 22, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

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