Fact or Fiction: Preview
by erivera7 on Sep 5, 2009 8:00 AM EDT
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Fact or Fiction.
It's one of the few segments on ESPN that's enjoyable because it throws out a statement, allows for an argument and counter-argument to be presented, and empowers the viewer to come up to his/her own conclusion. Pretty simple concept.
Inspired partly by Tom Ziller's 30Q series at Sactown Royalty, I wanted to run another mini-series at Third Quarter Collapse to guide Orlando Magic fans close to the start of training camp (begins September 29th at the RDV Sportsplex, mark your calendars).
The ground-rules: the series will be based on the Fact or Fiction segment, with it being Magic-centric. The various statements that will be analyzed will come from the 3QC community - today, everyone will have the chance to chime in with their ideas.
Fairly simple. Figured this is another fun way of getting you, the reader, involved. All that I ask is that people comment with a statement (ex: Dwight Howard will repeat as the NBA's Defensive Player of the Year) for their idea. With that said, have at it.
Thanks!
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Jameer Nelson
Jameer Nelson Will Make The All Star Team For The 09/10 Season
by Loh_14 on Sep 5, 2009 10:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fiction
Not because he won’t have another good year, but because of the other guards I think will be better i.e. Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, Devin Harris, a healthy Arenas, Joe Johnson, Ray Allen. And that’s not counting the annual “surprise/breakout” selection (I guess Rose and Rondo could be considered that, but I thought they deserved one last year IMO). Vince Carter will have a better chance at making the team as a guard.
BONUS FACT: Mo Williams will NOT make the All-Star team.
by bandrewg08 on Sep 5, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Save your argument/counter-argument!
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by erivera7 on Sep 5, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, should've read the whole thing
My bad
by bandrewg08 on Sep 5, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's okay.
I like the discussion, but want to save it for the appropriate time.
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by erivera7 on Sep 6, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, Jameer is about just as young, and there was no ceiling to his hot play last season. His averages just kept increasing even tho he already hit famed shooting %’s awhile ago.
by derekk on Sep 5, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good one.
Keep the statements coming.
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by erivera7 on Sep 5, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rashard Lewis
Lewis will come back to form within the first five games after his suspension.
WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
ALSO! NOW THE HEAD OF THE PUFFY-ROD BANDWAGON.
by Some other guy who does not care on Sep 5, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Air France 6th man of the year,
Assuming he comes off the Bench:-)
Do not try it. I will call you on it every time. No one likes the smell of S*it, especially Bull S*it
by BS Patrol on Sep 5, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reiterating what was stated above,
Vince Carter will be re-energized and make the all-star game.
Man is the only non-linear computing device still mass-produced by unskilled labor.
by SteRanCo on Sep 5, 2009 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Despite the roster shake-up, the Magic's offense will remain stylistically similar.
by kerem on Sep 5, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or it might be better to put it the opposite way,
After the Magic’s roster shake-up this offseason, their distinct offensive style will change dramatically.
Supporting this view, perhaps, is this quote from Bethlehem Shoals from Free Darko.
Like most systems that persist over time, team development is well reinforced by structural forces that are perpetuated from Grand Minister Stern all the way down to the most ignorant of fans. There isn’t even an ounce of hope for Reformation at this point. Nelson is too egomaniacal to lead the revolution, the Magic are too repentant for their loss, and D’Antoni is too not in Chicago.
You might want to read the quote in context.
by kerem on Sep 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting.
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by erivera7 on Sep 6, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting mention of stan van gundy in there as well.
by kerem on Sep 5, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Def.
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by erivera7 on Sep 6, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will Rashard Lewis stay at 4 so the Magic can continue their dominating ways?
by derekk on Sep 5, 2009 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will JJ Redick find his better shot and in the process having his best pro season yet?
by derekk on Sep 5, 2009 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reddick will find a new team by the trade deadline
by QBallWhitey on Sep 5, 2009 5:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fiction.
We’re unlikely to trade him, because he’s our only backup SG. Meanwhile, he has an expiring contract, which sharply limits his trade value. We need to keep him more than anyone else needs to get him. And if, by some bizarre fluke, someone looked at Redick and thought, “yes, this is a guy we want to rebuild with,” they wouldn’t be trading the Magic for him. They’d be waiting to sign him in free agency.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
by 3.3seconds on Sep 8, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dwight Howard will develop an actual jump hook, not the special olympics looking one he uses now.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
by Diosnomeama on Sep 5, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Magic use the TPE before the deadline.
or….the Magic don’t make any roster moves this season.
by magicfaninTN on Sep 5, 2009 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Magic try to make a move for one of the 2010 FAs next summer through S&T.
Wade?
Using Gortat?
Using VC’s contract?
by magicfaninTN on Sep 5, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see that as a near impossible idea.
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by erivera7 on Sep 6, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you do.
But that doesn’t mean it couldn’t be debated.
I’d wager that last offseason, you thought having Vince Carter was near impossible, too.
by magicfaninTN on Sep 6, 2009 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not necessarily, but it's easy to say that now since there's no way to prove that.
The reason why I say it’s near impossible is because of finances.
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by erivera7 on Sep 6, 2009 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcin Gortat & Dwight Howard will play well as a tandem
I think that may be the single most important news of the frontline all season long. And, that’s with all due respect to Shard and Bass as well.
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by pookeyguru on Sep 5, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's an interesting statement, and a good one pookey.
Ultimately, and I’ll save my explanation for further discussion), but it depends on what you or anyone else expects from that combination. Is it for defense? Is it for for offense?
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by erivera7 on Sep 6, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Barnes will only average 15 minutes a game, yet somehow manage to jack up enough awful shots to give Orlando fans an aneurysm.
"We got more gongs than the break dancing robot that caught on fire"-Homer J. Simpson
by Diosnomeama on Sep 5, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the participation, so far.
Keep ’em coming.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Sep 6, 2009 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I predict JJ will be useless
HA
Still a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on Sep 6, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Magic will struggle in their Rashard-less 10 games and will miss out on a 1 or 2 seed because of it.
by bandrewg08 on Sep 6, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Conversely,
The Magic will start out the season 10-0.
Man is the only non-linear computing device still mass-produced by unskilled labor.
by SteRanCo on Sep 6, 2009 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dwight Howard will finish in the top 2 for MVP
by RussL on Sep 6, 2009 11:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Turkoglu will make the allstar team as a reserve this year
by RussL on Sep 6, 2009 11:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The Magic will have three allstars again this year
by RussL on Sep 6, 2009 11:50 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
SVG will be the coach of the year
by RussL on Sep 6, 2009 11:51 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Jameer Nelson will shoot 50% from the field
by RussL on Sep 6, 2009 11:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Fact Magic be top 3 in Defence AND Offense. They will push hard to beat the all-time win mark, they will settle for 67 wins!
Thats me chilling with Nick Anderson
by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 6, 2009 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After many close games and comebacks, Magic offense was collapsing upon itself in the Finals while/after missing out on two very close games. Hedo was not helping as he played more go to than usual and the offense slowed down overall by everyone. VC, Nelson and the experience will change that next time.
by derekk on Sep 7, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Couple late ones.
Fact or fiction: Vince Carter will lead the Magic in scoring this year.
Fact or fiction: Ryan Anderson will pass Brandon Bass on the Magic’s depth chart by the end of the season.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
by 3.3seconds on Sep 8, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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