Orlando Magic News for September 28th: Wrapping Up the Off-Season; Some Quick Notes from Media Day
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'Net reaction: Media Day notes, quotes and tats
J.E. Skeets of Ball Don't Lie gathers Twitter updates at different Media Day's from several sources, including Third Quarter Collapse's own, Ben Q Rock. -
The 10 best shooting guards of the last decade
Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don't Lie lists the 10 best shooting guards of the past decade, today. At #3, Vince Carter:Carp at VC all you want, I'll lead the chants, but the man brought it all decade. Most of the decade. He took some of the decade off, I guess.
When he didn't take parts of decades off, Carter threw together averages of 23.5 points, 5.5 rebounds and 3.8 assists. He's become a much better passer and defender as his career has moved along, while establishing a post-up game. And while he was pretty injury-prone to start the decade, Carter hasn't really missed much time in the years since 2002-03. -
Year-to-Year Four Factor Correlations
Neil Paine of Basketball-Reference takes a look at the 'four factors' and tries to figure out if there's year-to-year correlation for each metric. Great read.I know we haven't talked about Dean Oliver's Four (Eight?) Factors here in a while, but that hasn't been deliberate. I actually like the 4 factor methodology for evaluating teams' strengths and weaknesses, although there's a quite a gordian knot to deal with when you start trying to link team factors to their respective metrics for individual players. Hmm... maybe that's the reason why I haven't invested so heavily in them recently, because we've been all about trying to establish expectations for teams in 2010 based on their current rosters, and last year's 4 factor data wouldn't help you get very far in that direction. But it occurs to me that another way to look at team trends is to see which stats are historically sustainable from year to year, and which aren't.
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The 5 Teams Who Had The Most Productive Offseasons
Gerald Narciso of Dime Magazine lists the five teams in the NBA that have had the most productive off-seasons. Not surprising, Orlando makes the list.3. Magic: Let’s face it, the Magic lost a great scorer and clutch player in Hedo Turkoglu - who signed a long-term deal with Toronto. But despite that void, management wasn’t shy about finding Hedo’s replacement. They traded Rafer Alston, Courtney Lee and Tony Battie to the Nets for eight-time all-star Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson. Carter, who is from the Central Florida area, will provide scoring and excitement to the team. The Magic also signed Brandon Bass, a young and athletic power forward from Dallas. Bass along with re-signing Marcin Gortat helps improve the Magic’s frontcourt. Orlando fills the backcourt void left by Alston and Lee by signing veteran guards Jason Williams and Matt Barnes.
I'm sorry, but Hedo Turkoglu is not a great scorer. Vince Carter is a great scorer. Do we really need to go through this discussion again?
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Marcin Gortat: "Break Glass In Case Of Emergency"
Aron Phillips of Dime Magazine comments on general manager Otis Smith's recent statement about using Marcin Gortat "in case of emergency". -
Magic Pick Up Van Gundy's 2011 Option
Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse confirms that head coach Stan Van Gundy's contract option has been picked up by the Magic for the 2010-2011 season.The Orlando Magic will announce soon that that they have exercised the option year on coach Stan Van Gundy's original contract, putting him on the payroll at least through the 2010-11 season.
Van Gundy this season would have been going into the final guaranteed year on his original contract, signed before the 2007-08 season.
General manager Otis Smith confirmed Monday at the team's media day that they have guaranteed the contract through next season. -
Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy, GM Otis Smith get contract extensions
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New-look Magic start training camp with big goals
UPDATE 2: Brian Schmitz checks in with a report.A club that will resemble a traveling all-star show now with Vince Carter on board already has heard the team slogan for this season -- and it embraces no egos:
Grab A Handle.
That's Orlando Magic General Manager Otis Smith's catch-phrase.
And it's no coincidence the slogan came about with the arrival of Carter, who has more all-star nominations (eight) than Dwight Howard, Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson combined.
"We're not asking any one guy to carry any part of the whole load. We're asking everybody to grab a handle," Smith said. "Just grab a handle. Because trying to win a title is a grind." -
Magic will start training camp running
UPDATE 3: Josh Robbins explains what Orlando will do in training camp.Magic players will do plenty of running when they begin training camp and two-a-day practices today.
Coach Stan Van Gundy said the team will scrimmage for about three quarters during the morning workout at RDV Sportsplex, with every player getting 18 to 27 minutes of playing time.
"We'll get a good look at our team," Van Gundy said. "I think it's the best way to build conditioning and chemistry and get up and down the floor. And I get to start seeing guys. I know there will be a lot of mistakes, but I hope what I'll see is guys playing very, very hard and hopefully trying to play very, very disciplined." -
Magic's Rashard Lewis hasn't forgotten Finals disappointment
UPDATE 4: George Diaz writes an intriguing piece about Rashard Lewis. -
Mickael Pietrus: "I want to come off the bench"
UPDATE 5: Zach McCann of Orlando Magic Daily shares this tidbit that will certainly interest Magic fans, concerning Mickael Pietrus.One of the biggest questions heading into training camp was who would win the starting small forward job, Mickael Pietrus or Matt Barnes? While the general assumption is that Barnes would start alongside Rashard Lewis (and Brandon Bass for the first ten games), Mickael Pietrus answered that question swiftly on Monday.
"I like to come off the bench," Pietrus said. "I don’t mind if Matt Barnes starts. I don’t mind if I come off the bench. It’s just a matter of winning a championship." -
Tip-Off Timer: Scott Skiles Is the Single Game Assist King With 30
UPDATE 6: Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse looks back at a former Orlando player that still holds the record for most assists in a single NBA game, Scott Skiles. For a refresher on what allowed him to get all those dimes, click here.It only makes sense.
It's why gritty Scott Skiles sticks out like a dark stain on a white carpet.
Surprisingly, it's not Cousy, Robertson, Johnson, or Stockton who holds the record for most assists in a single NBA game.
It's Skiles, who had 30 assists against the Denver Nuggets on Dec. 30, 1990, when he played for the Orlando Magic in just their second season. - 3QC programming note. Tune in tomorrow, all day (every few hours), when Ben and I will post transcripts of our conversations with the majority of the Orlando Magic team from Media Day. We promise the wait will be worth it.
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great to know we will have svg and otis around awhile.
why do people compare hedo to carter? there is no comparision hedo is not on the same lvl. as carter.
all these comparisons will end the moment this team plays their first regular season game…the problem is people have short and near memories. all people seem to remember is that the Magic got so far in June because of the"matchup" nightmares they were giving to teams that were picked as favorites (i mean the national media will never admit being wrong, but they were here and needed a justification). people don’t remember how well the Magic were playing in January right before Nelson when down…their play at that time alone should have alerted everyone that this team was good and it wasn’t just about matchups. long story short…they see hedo gone…they see VC in…they recall that VC hasn’t been an all-star in a while…so they make the connection. it’s pretty elementary…but so is mainstream coverage of the NBA these days.
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
Oh yeah!! Training camp is here...
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
It's here.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
I liked the Ball dont lie article and thuink the got the top 10 SG in perfect order.
I mostly agreed with the Dime article exept I switch the Magic and LA.
Some of those posts on the Gortat story was haters (most ) but one stood out to me, BiG ShoT BoB says: " Nothing wrong with having depth and options. They basically have a starter coming off the bench for the center position. No team in the league can say that except maybe the Grizzlies and the Lakers. Come June they will definitely need his services. Whether he wants to play off the bench or not is not his choice. You get paid that kind of money in this economy you play wherever the hell they tell you to play."
its good to see some national fans understand.
But then again following shortly thereafter : Chicagorilla says:“dudes a scrub and should be happy someone was dumb enough to pay him money. He and Varaejo are going to help Joakim Noah get a huge contract from the bulls and there are going to be a bunch of pissed off Bulls fans.”
scrub really? whatever.
And I love the grab a handle theme.
Thats me chilling with Nick Anderson
by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 28, 2009 6:37 PM EDT reply actions
Well, Dime Magazine isn't exactly a hub for intelligent comments.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Grab A Handle sounds like a call to get wasted
LOL
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Seriously . . . . this year's catch phrase is "Grab a Handle"?
How about the Magic “grab” a decent PR person instead to come up with a better slogan.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
I don't think that's the official catch phrase. Grab A Handle was just conjured up by Otis Smith.
Be Magic is the slogan created by the PR team, if I’m not mistaken.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
"Four All-Stars" should be the only slogan
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Sep 29, 2009 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
To Ben and E:
Do you guys have more than what’s already been shown on the NBA.com videos? Or did they address all media at the same time?
The link I’m talking about:
http://www.nba.com/magic/news/2009_orlando_magic_media_day_c_2009_09_28.html
We have much more. We'll be posting transcripts of our questions all day, tomorrow.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Dan Savage of the Orlando Magic was the person that conducted the majority of those interviews.
We’ll post a link to those tomorrow but what we have is questions either one-on-one with the coaches, players, and executives or questions that we asked within the respective media scrums.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
That's not necessary.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone

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