Orlando Magic News for September 25th: New Research on the "Up-3" Fouling Debate and Shot-Type Efficiency; an Optimistic Power Ranking; and More
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Up Three, Without the Ball: To Foul or Not? New Insight
Henry Abbott of TrueHoop has an update on the long-raging debate about whether or not teams who are up three and in the penalty should intentionally foul their opponent late in the game. It's an issue of particular importance to Magic fans, who watched in horror as Orlando elected not to foul the Los Angeles Lakers in such a situation in Game 4 of the NBA Finals, which Derek Fisher sent into overtime with an open three-ball over the Magic's Jameer Nelson; the Lakers went on to win that game and, two nights later, the championship.
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A New Method for Evaluating Players, Part I: Rating Shooting Abilities
Jon Nichols of Basketball-Statistics.com attempts to create a new metric to measure players' efficiency per shot-attempt-type, normalized for position. Using a Magic-related example, he explains why he wanted to evaluate shooting in this way:
Let’s say Shaquille O’Neal rates better than Rashard Lewis in Player Rating System X. The Magic should try to swap Lewis for Shaq, then, right? Obviously not. Orlando needs a big man (calling Lewis "big" is a stretch, but go along with it for now) that can stretch the floor and give space for Dwight Howard down low. Suddenly, we’re doing so much contextual research for Player Rating System X that the player rating itself isn’t that useful anymore.
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Yesterday, we linked to Sean Deveney's NBA team rankings at The Sporting News, where he rated the Magic 8th, directly behind the Washington Wizards. Today, Marc Stein of ESPN posted his pre-camp power rankings, which are a bit more reasonable. He places the Magic 2nd, just behind the Lakers, and explains why:
Since '89, only one team that lost in the Finals won it all the following year: last season's Lakers. So I respect/applaud Orlando's overhaul/big spending, even though I always saw Hedo [Turkoglu] as the Magic's linchpin.
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Toronto Raptors Season Preview: Game 3
It escaped my notice at the time, but a few days ago, Khandor continued his game-by-game preview of the Toronto Raptors' season with this look at their game against the Magic on November 1st. He predicts Toronto will pick up its first win of the 2009 season in this contest because...
With the support of a typically raucous home crowd, the off day in-between road games for Orlando [whose players will be spending Saturday evening experiencing the nightlife in T.O.], and this being Hedo Turkoglu’s first home game in his new digs vs the squad that declined the opportunity to pay him the $$$ he felt he deserved this summer, as an important UFA for a team that advanced to the NBA Finals last season … the Raptors should be able to win this match-up. If not … it might be a really long year ahead for the Dinos.
He goes on to explain that the Raptors will be in trouble in this game, however, if the Magic come into it with a 2-0 record and if Vince Carter, the reviled former Raptor, is suitably hyped for the occasion.
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JJ answers Questions From Fans
J.J. Redick answers fan questions in his latest blog post. A sample:
Q: College Basketball or NBA... whos got the better fans?
JJ: With no disrespect to our Orlando Magic fans (who were absolutely fantastic in the playoffs last year), I’d have to say from my experience that overall college basketball fans are louder and more passionate. And let’s be honest here, Duke fans are the BEST fans in the world.
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I can only count 7 teams that can realistically win the title
Cavs Magic Celtics Lakers Spurs Nuggets Blazers. And I am not all that sold on Nugz and Blazers being able to beat Lakers..
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
by BS Patrol on Sep 25, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Blazers are more suited to beat the Lakers than the Nuggets.
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by erivera7 on Sep 25, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Hornet's chances out West too, and the Suns could surprise..
by derekk on Sep 25, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think either team will be relevant in the conference title or the league title discussion.
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by erivera7 on Sep 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here,s one for you.
better magic team this years or last years? i know we have not seen them play yet but from our roster on papper what team do you like better? wow camp is in a few days guys the wait is over.
by magicman775 on Sep 25, 2009 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I ay sound Noob when I state this
But we replaced ALston and Lee with Nelson and Carter.
I am inclined to think we would do better
But anything less than 6 finals games makes it worse.
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
by BS Patrol on Sep 25, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think expectations need to be tempered, or else everyone will be disappointed.
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by erivera7 on Sep 26, 2009 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way will I temper my expectations
If they dont make the finals then this season and all the additions made was a waste IMO. We have one of the largest payrolls because we have tons of talent, not caps space like some teams. I expect results immediately, this is not some rebuilding effort to try and get better by next decade. NOW.
NOW
NOW
Thats me chilling with Nick Anderson
by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 26, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree NOW
i’m thinking 55 wins yes that is a safe #. but i’m thinking with more talent = more playing with rotations for svg. but when playoffs get here we will see our magic dominate. but some would say our offence will be better and our d should be real close to last years. that could = 60 62 wins. # 1 in the east. i think cle. will win about 55 too. i think shaq might slow them down a tad. i believe kg will not be the same kg as we know. they are quiet about him right now.
by magicman775 on Sep 26, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland is winning more than 55 games.
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by erivera7 on Sep 26, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand, but at the same time, the task will be difficult.
Orlando isn’t going to blast its way through with ease. It’s going to be hard.
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by erivera7 on Sep 26, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was hard last year
and we got better this year i expect it to be a challenge, one we will overcome
Thats me chilling with Nick Anderson
by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 26, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a guarantee.
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by erivera7 on Sep 26, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
High expectations don't require that things be guaranteed
by CaliFlorida on Sep 26, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm aware of that.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Sep 26, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way
the picture needs to be apainful reminder so we appreciate a title when it comes home this year. plus the Lakers earned it, look how many players not named bryant stepped up huge. Gasol, Odom, Fish, and even Farmar played good.
Thats me chilling with Nick Anderson
by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 25, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're thinking too much, nobody wants to see that shizz!!!
lol
by bandrewg08 on Sep 26, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i do
And i cant stand the Lakers
Thats me chilling with Nick Anderson
by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 26, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
1. Thanks for the hook-up.
2. Orlando is a legit title contender this season … along with LAL, BOS, SAS and CLE.
khandor
by khandor on Sep 26, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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