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Fact or Fiction: Mickael Pietrus Will Continue His Impressive Offensive Play from the 2009 NBA Playoffs

Fact or Fiction presents both sides of key issues the Orlando Magic will face in the upcoming NBA season.

Can Mickael Pietrus maintain his playoff performance heading into the new year?

FACT: Mickael Pietrus has shown flashes of brilliance throughout his young career, first with the Golden State Warriors, and now with the Orlando Magic. When Pietrus isn't battling bouts of inconsistency or dealing with injuries, he can be a useful player coming off the bench for a team. Look no further than during the 2009 NBA Playoffs, as Pietrus became an x-factor off the bench for the Magic during the squad's run to the Finals and began to earn some of the full Mid-Level Exception he received during the off-season last year. Pietrus made his presence felt and Orlando benefited when it mattered the most.

 

FICTION: However, there's a reason why the FACT portion of the write-up is short.

 

Pietrus played out of his mind, offensively, in the postseason. Granted, Pietrus was finally healthy since the start of the regular season and that certainly aided in his ability to perform more to his potential, but even then, his numbers were staggering.

 

2009 regular season TS% (53.8%) eFG% (50.7%) USG% (18.4%) ORtg (106)
2009 postseason TS% (62.2%) eFG% (58.9%) USG% (17.6%) ORtg (117)

 

It's impossible for Pietrus to continue to shoot that efficiently in the upcoming season. As has been stated for Jameer Nelson before, Pietrus will surely regress to the mean but the question is, what will his statistics look like? Well, Pietrus' percentages have been declining the last three seasons but he should see an uptick in his numbers for this year. It's tough to predict what Pietrus' stats will be but it doesn't seem too outlandish to suggest he could revert back to somewhere around his 2006-2007 form with the Warriors, when his eFG% (56.7%) and TS% (59.0%) were above-average. Probably not at those high statistics, but better than his career numbers (somewhere in the middle, I would suspect). The key is his field-goal percentage, which needs to hover around 48%-50% for his advanced shooting percentages to be very good. 

 

2007 regular season TS% (59.0%) eFG% (56.7%) USG% (17.2%) ORtg (109)
career TS% (54.5%) eFG% (51.4%) USG% (18.7%) ORtg (105)

 

If Pietrus can somewhat replicate his production from '07, there's no reason why he can't be an efficient player. In the end, it comes down to Pietrus not getting hurt much. If Pietrus can stay on the court, convert better around the basket, maintain his current three-point percentage (36%) & free-throw percentage (71%), look out.

 

Verdict: In a word, no, but it doesn't mean Mickael Pietrus can't play well.

 

Just not that well over a period of time.

 

With grateful acknowledgement to 3QC user derekk, who suggested this topic.

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Fiction

Like in baseball, players will return to the mean eventually. Same will happen with Jameer. But the good thing is that this team is so deep with talent that we don’t need everyone to play out of their minds.

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by bandrewg08 on Sep 21, 2009 8:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fiction I guess

I imagine with Vince Carter on board, there won’t be as much of a need for an offensive boost. Still he still has the ability to be a mini- Vinnie Johnson player ( a miniwave?) off the bench

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by Wasabi Steak on Sep 21, 2009 9:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pietrus just needs to keep doing what he did in the postseason.

Like I said in the post, he won’t do it as well in the regular season, but still.

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by erivera7 on Sep 21, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fiction I suppose, for the same reasons stated.

One thing to point out though is that in the playoffs Pietrus seemed to have much more of a defined role - Play defense and shoot the corner 3. He is perfectly suited to play this Bruce Bowen type of role. If he stays within the confines of that role (and is healthy), I don’t see any reason why his shooting percentages can’t improve dramatically over his career line.

by CaliFlorida on Sep 21, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Pietrus has, ahem, a bimodal distribution

So there are really two means.

When he’s healthy, he plays very well: His performance in October and November is nearly equivalent to his post-season production.

But when he’s injured, he struggles, as shown by his play the rest of the season.

So the question, perhaps, is to what extent Pietrus will suffer injuries this season. Injuries are less predictable than shooting percentage, but given his track record, we should expect some issues to come up.

by gift of the magi on Sep 21, 2009 3:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, with Mickael, it comes down to health more than anything else.

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by erivera7 on Sep 21, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Its clear we are talking about his offense, but l want to make a point that his overall usefulness will be predicated on his defense first off. And when its playoffs time, or anytime MP is focused, he is an elite defensive talent. Perhaps the only elite perimeter defender. Lee wasnt there yet, he was just really, really consistent at least, and Barnes is just above average I think too.
Second off, I’m sort of going to keep going with the line of, can he repeat in the playoffs, not the regular season, and MP was one of the clutchest (Top 2?) Magic players and accurate shooters in the playoffs. Just because the dang superstars like Kobe and LeBron instantly take it to another level in the playoffs doesn’t mean some of the simpler role and rotation players can’t either. There are just some players that step it up in the playoffs, there is history everywhere to prove that; look at Fisher and Ariza against the Magic, key defensive stoppers like Bowen in the playoffs, etc.
Lastly, I agree if we are to see it in the regular season, he will have to be consistently healthy (Where’s the Magic trainer staff?, crash-course in falling down the right way?), maintain good %‘s, and attack the rim better/more. I would be interested to see his layup % in the playoffs, it should be much, much better. He shows the athleticism to do some crafty driving at times a la Carter, and he can cut in and make something happen off of Dwight or a missed shot in the offense (as he did in a critical moment of a Cavs game), but doesn’t do either enough in the regular season. Overall though, he plays high level defense, shoots 3’s above average, and is quite athletic. His defense alone is very, very important to the Magic playing elite team defense. Staying in the Magic system will do wonders for him as he keeps playing a specific role, getting more and more comfortable with what he can do; defense, rebounding, 3pnt shooting, and attacking.

2009 Playoffs: 25MPG: 48FG%, 38.5 3P%. 10.5 PPG, 2.6RPG.

I’m gonna take an educated guess and project his next regular season stats at 46FG%, 38.0 3P%, 12.0 PPG, 3.8RPG at about 28MPG and then another very solid showing at the next playoffs, especially defensively.

Also some interesting info. from stats splits that leads me to change my mind on whether MP should start or not:

I’m not good at quantifying what 9 minutes more should show up as in the stats, as in MP had 29MPG in his 24 starts and 20MPG in his 29 off the bench showings, but off the eye, it seems his FG%‘s, 3P%’s, and rebounding #’s jumped dramatically high for just 9 more minutes of burn. As in 39FG% to 43FG%, 32 3P% to 38 3P%, and 2.7 RPG to 4 RPG.

MP’s ’s and PPG were incredibly indicative of a Magic win or loss, 33 FG and 28 3P% in 16 losses, 44 FG% and 38 3P% in 38 wins.

MP’s biggest months of playtime were,
November, beginning of season, 13.2 PPG in 13 games with 49.5 FG% and 38 3P%, 3.8 RPG.
February, near All Star break, bad month for him still coming off injury, 37 FG% and 32 3P%.
March, near end of season, 40 FG% and 40 3P%, 3.4 RPG.

Completely, utterly small sample to be truly indicative of anything, but..
According to ESPN stats splits, MP played 4 games as a positional Forward, SF, and averaged 6.5 rebounds in them. I don’t know if they properly identified MP as a SF in those particular games, or simply did so because they were 4 uncharacteristically high rebounding games, but if MP really does rebound that good at the SF spot..

Which leads me to say, if he has good health and consistent, ample playtime (near 29 MPG), he should be starting, not Matt Barnes. His efficiency in the stats say so, not necessarily the increased numbers of stats, but also the %’s and rebounding that greatly increases with smaller increases in consistent play time.

by derekk on Sep 21, 2009 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pietrus shouldn't start, in any scenario.

He’s better off coming off the bench because he can backup the 2 and the 3. Barnes can’t do that.

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by erivera7 on Sep 21, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that is true

but dont you think putting our best 5 out to start will be more devastating than holding one back for reserve? Do you think it would be good to get redick mins. @ 2 if not just to shop him and raise his value? Plus Redick played well last year esp. when he was used in the playoffs. And starting our best 5 might run teams into the ground.
I do see the value of having a starter as a 6th man too.
hmmmm..

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by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 21, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

E has a great point because I would rather have MP behind VC in depth too, but if you have Redick take alil time there too it will be more than OK and VC will join the Big 3 as one of SVG’s “Im gonna play you 32+ mins every night” rotation players. MP should see time behind VC, but in the scheme of the best 5 possible on the floor, MP should see more (atleast if only slightly more) min.s at the 3 than Barnes, because his rebounding should be strong and his playtime with the starters has shown to be even better for MP and the team. From there, you can see who gets the start honors as long as MP has most of his minutes at the 3. So maybe start Barnes, but like Ginobili, MP will be there in the end and have slightly more min.s at 3 than Barnes. From what I’ve seen of the Magic and MP, and the stats, this will be the best for the team.

by derekk on Sep 21, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because Pietrus would come off the bench wouldn't mean he wouldn't see plenty of time.

Because he can back-up the 2 and the 3, that allows more opportunities to see the floor.

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by erivera7 on Sep 21, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes Peaches should start over Barnes

And I agree, he was just as good in the regular season when he was healthy, when his wrist was all wrapped up he struggled to finish and hit jumpers as good. Look for Peaches to be close to playoff #’s all season if he stays healthy and gets around 30 mins a game.

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by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 21, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree. Again, it's not always starting the best five players.

It’s starting a lineup that makes the rotations make sense.

If Pietrus starts, than Redick becomes the back-up shooting guard. Barnes can only back-up at the 3 because there’s already a logjam in the frontcourt at the 4 and at the 5. If Barnes starts, than that allows Pietrus to continue to back-up the 2 and the 3, thus sliding Redick back in the depth chart to a role more suited for him. Speaking with a team insider, that seems to be the plan for right now.

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by erivera7 on Sep 21, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

As much as I think JJ gets a lot of ire from people, the kid can play a great 10 minutes of basketball a night for a team.

…and that’s all he should play.

by fwedo on Sep 21, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Redick is good for spot duty. That's about it.

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by erivera7 on Sep 21, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah and it makes our bench more solid and flexible I guess.

So this pretty much officialiy benches Redick unless injury sets in.

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by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 21, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's about focus

I got the feeling last year that during the regular season, Peaches was sort of on cruise control – play well enough to support the team, but try not to get hurt. In the playoffs, he became a lot more focused, because every game counted and there was nothing left to wait for. Part of the “cruise control” was probably the injuries, but it seemed like Peaches made fewer mental errors in the playoffs as well.

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by The Dark on Sep 23, 2009 7:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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