Orlando Magic News for September 2nd: former Magic PGs Possibly on the Move, a Potential Trade Destination for Mickael Pietrus or Marcin Gortat, and More
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Barry Jackson reports the Orlando Magic's hated in-state rival, the Miami Heat, recently discussed acquiring either Keyon Dooling or Rafer Alston from the Nets:
The Heat -- which says it would prefer to trade for a backup point guard than sign one -- spoke to New Jersey about ex-Heat guards Rafer Alston and Keyon Dooling, one of whom could be dealt. Nothing materialized, but the door was left open for further talks.
Alston and Dooling both played for Orlando and Miami earlier in their careers, so they're already in the club with--off the top of my head--Jason Williams, Rony Seikaly, Danny Schayes, Isaac Austin, Shaquille O'Neal, and Penny Hardaway. It appears as though a return to the Heat might be in the cards for one of them. (hat tip: NetsDaily)
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30Q: What Kind of Kenny Thomas Trade Offers Will Pop Up?
Tom Ziller of Sactown Royalty explores potential trades the Sacramento Kings might make using Kenny Thomas' hefty ($8.7 million) expiring contract. He mentions Orlando as a possibility:
The Magic, for example, have some $80 million in payroll tied up. This is a team that, until a few months ago, refused to cross the tax threshold. The team could be $20 million over the tax threshold in 2010-11. Isn't that a bit much? If it is, the Kings could give the Magic K-9's expiring contract in exchange for Mickael Pietrus or Marcin Gortat (assuming the Kings want either at their current payscales).
It's hard to imagine the Magic dumping two of their top-eight players for an expiring contract, especially since they appear to have no qualms paying the luxury tax.
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Is C.J. Watson Coming to His Senses?
Matt Steinmetz of NBA FanHouse wonders what the heck C.J. Watson, the Golden State Warriors' restricted free agent point guard whom the Magic and their fans covet, is doing by balking at their three-year, $5.4 million contract offer, which includes a player option for the third year:
The only logical reason for Watson to spurn that kind of money is if he believed he'd be able to get a better deal next season on the free agent market. Only one problem: Watson will be a restricted free agent again next season, a fact that has been frequently misreported.
Indeed, if Watson takes the 1-year, $1.05 million qualifying offer to stay with the Warriors, he still won't be able to gain his freedom as an unrestricted free agent next summer, as they'll still hold his free-agent rights. Why? Because he'll be a three-year veteran, and teams hold their players' restricted free-agent rights until after their fourth season.
In other words, unless Magic GM Otis Smith can pull off a sign-and-trade deal, it looks highly unlikely that Watson could join the Magic until at least 2012.
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The Rubio Situation Hits Close to Home
The Puns Are Starting to Bore Me briefly examines the parallels between the Minnesota Timberwolves' mishandling of Ricky Rubio--whom they drafted with the 5th pick this summer, only to watch him stay in Spain--and the Magic's situation with Fran Vazquez, their 2005 first-round pick who has yet to join the team.
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Where Are They Now: 2009 Summer League Teams Part 2
A few weeks ago, I tried to sum up where some of the Magic's summer-league players wound up. ShamSports has done a more thorough job. Believe it or not, Courtney Fells (14.3% shooting, 8 points, 8 turnovers) has yet to sign anywhere.
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Thanks. Not sure where it is. Sham posted something on his Twitter about the site dying occasionally, so maybe he had to take that post down.
I assure you it exists, as I visited it this morning.
Third Quarter Collapse: An Orlando Magic blog at SB Nation | Brandon Bass: "I just play hard."
by Ben Q Rock on Sep 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tell me again,
why we continue to talk about watson? 2012? who cares at this point about where cj watson’s going to be in 3 years?
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by mhetrick14 on Sep 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same as I read this
He is in Golden state, yes he is an upgrade over Dad and J Williams, but its not a reality. As several people have eluded to this is the most anticipated season ever in Magic history. As such when it was revealed to me via this blog that he simply was not coming, I gave up on the notion. Never the less I read the article as ant morsel of Magic is good. Good Indeed.
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by BS Patrol on Sep 2, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's September.
That’s all I’ve got.
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by Ben Q Rock on Sep 2, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy Birthday!
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by BS Patrol on Sep 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy b-day!
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by erivera7 on Sep 2, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy Bday fwedo!!
Many victories celebrated here.
by Dzogi on Sep 3, 2009 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
i hear that. least football starts in a week
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by mhetrick14 on Sep 2, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh. If we take Kenny Thomas' contract
for Marcin (which is a bad idea for the Magic), then the trade better include at least Sacramento’s unprotected 2010 first round pick and Spencer Hawes, plus some more sweetener.
At that price, maybe Otis gives it at least a second thought.
by magicfaninTN on Sep 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. They'd need to include one of their better, younger players.
Hawes and Thompson would be acceptable. Donte Greene? Not so much.
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by Ben Q Rock on Sep 2, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see no scenario where the Magic acquire an expiring contract.
As Ben said, the team could care less about being in the luxury tax right now.
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by erivera7 on Sep 2, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Devos will sell some more
Nutri-Lite and soap. He is more than prepared to pay for a winning team.
Thats me chilling with Nick Anderson
by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Sep 2, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
devos wants a championship
before he croaks
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by mhetrick14 on Sep 2, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
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by erivera7 on Sep 2, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I 3 freefly gets a Rec
For his Name and article.
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by BS Patrol on Sep 2, 2009 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it ok to hate Fran?
Or should we as a fanbase moved on?
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by BS Patrol on Sep 2, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Move on.
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by erivera7 on Sep 2, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tangentially related summer league thing
Does anyone else think it’s weird that Nick Fazekas can’t get an NBA job? He’s 6’11", and he was genuinely effective for the Clippers on 07-08. He’s not exactly a great defender, but he’s got a good rebounding touch and can score on the inside.
I’m not saying WE should get him — even if we needed anything, a power forward is not it. I’m just saying that all signs suggest he’s actually an NBA-quality player, and given that many actual NBA players aren’t that, why is the guy playing in France?
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
by 3.3seconds on Sep 2, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure.
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by erivera7 on Sep 3, 2009 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, Rafer could be on the move again?
Can’t this guy find a home :(
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by Wasabi Steak on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, he does have an expiring contract, so that's why he's on the block.
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by erivera7 on Sep 4, 2009 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We better trade not Pietrus or Gortat for Kenny Thomas
I rather keep Gortat for an extra year then trade him for a 1 rounder and player.I think think we need him to get through the playoffs especially against the Lakers or Celtics. Pietrus should stay as the 6th man.I think Otis would laugh at this trade offer
by GoMagic000 on Sep 3, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That trade would never happen; it's conjecture.
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by erivera7 on Sep 3, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ziller (the author) really needs the season to start.
He’s seems to be throwing all sort of stuff at the wall lately and trying to see what sticks.
Being a writer in the offseason is tough..
by magicfaninTN on Sep 4, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's an excellent writer; don't blame him for coming up with different stories.
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by erivera7 on Sep 4, 2009 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it's guilt by association or by sheer volume of the topic
but it seems the NBA Fanhouse guys have been reaching a bit lately for angles to write about.
I like Ziller….or I wouldn’t be reading him. But he does need the season to start or he needs to take a page from Potvak’s latest article and try writing human interest angles on players or previous players. imho, fwiw.
btw, I don’t blame him for suggesting Sacramento unload Thomas, but suggesting it happens by Orlando giving up Gortat and MP following last season’s finals run….well, let’s just say he’s not coming across as a very informed NBA writer. again, imho.
by magicfaninTN on Sep 4, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who came up with the idea of trading MP?!
I won’t let it happen LOL
by Dzogi on Sep 4, 2009 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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