Bright Side of the Sun Yue
by Souwantmyname on Aug 5, 2009 7:52 PM EDT
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The Los Angeles Lakers recently released chinese national team PG Sun Yue. The Lakers let him go in order to resign Lamar Odom and to minimize the cap hit. He did not get any real playing time in Los Angeles which is troubling since Jordan Farmar and Shannon Brown aren't necessarily all-star's. Aside from that troubling factor I think Yue would be a smart signing for the Magic in many ways.
He will give us a young playmaker at the PG/SG position. Being 6'9 he already has a height advantage over nearly every guard in the league. He also fits into our offense where height and ball handling are major pluses (think a not as good Hedo) He doesn't look to have the speed for a great transition game but his strength is in a half court offense. A pick and roll game with Yue and Ryan Anderson off the bench will be quite effective.
Another factor the Magic should take into account is the sheer popularity of Chinese players. The Houston Rockets have grown their brand internationally by drafting Chinese superstar Yao Ming. The NBA estimates that over 300 million Chinese watch basketball. I am not so sure those numbers are valid but we do know their influence whenever All Star voting takes place. Yao always has a tremendous number of votes. Even New Jersey power forward Yi Jianlian garners a rediculous amount of fan votes. I am not certain whether the Magic directly benefit from the ratings boost that these players provide but I am sure that it is good for the NBA which is good for Orlando.
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He'd make sense for Orlando if he were any good.
When the best you can say about a guard is, “he’s tall,” then he’s not worth it.
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make sense
sign him for the 3rd pg and trade jj and aj for watson and murrow
what we do in life echoes in eternity
No way we could pull watson and morrow for aj and jj
Gsw has no reason to do that
by Jwoey on Aug 5, 2009 11:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont think GS's GM if that bad to do that kind of trade
although he has made some atrocious moves in the past
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 6, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The Nets tried that with Yi
Its keeping them from losing 50 million a year but he shit the bed last year.
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Aug 6, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
So what if he shit the bed
he’s bringing enough money to change the sheets
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 6, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point
bring him in, i change my mind
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
We're looking for someone to take Tyronn Lue's minutes.
Sun has shown he’s quite capable of holding down that type of bench spot. I have no problems with allowing him to fill roster spot #12 on a team that’s not going to play more than 9 or 10 guys regular minutes (Sorry I don’t see JJ and Ryan pulling as many minutes as they might deserve on most other teams.)
why not.... tyronn lue?
sun hasn’t shown anything cause he never played. if i’m orlando i wan’t someone who’s a proven nba player… thats why i still hope otis gets watson in a trade
It's not a dunk unless your hand makes contact with the rim. Yeah, I'm talkin' to you, "Superman..."
by ben_gleicher on Aug 6, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
If he was any good the Lakers keep him.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
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In the triangle, anyone could be the fascilitator.
Yue might be o.k., but Odom is much more important to the teams long term success. Yue may be serviceable as a 3rd PG. 2-3 minutes a game shouldn’t determine the outcome. If we lose a close game like that, then we didn’t do enough to win in the 1st place. Meer will get his 32-35 min a game, Dad his 13-15 which leaves only about 0-3 min a game for another playmaker. Sounds reasonable.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards,Rays and "the U"! What a winning combo.
Let's put it this way...
One day, Tyronne Lue once backed up Derek Fisher. Now, Fisher is backed up by Jordan Farmar and Shannon Brown. Yue, on the other hand, was uncapable of breaking in as the 3rd PG even before Brown arrived in the Morrison trade.
Yue has alot of growing to do. The Lakers have made it apparent they want contributors NOW, hence why they even made the Artest-Ariza swap. Yue might be good several years from now, I don’t doubt it. Believe me, I actually saw a future for him, because he was prototypical of Phil Jackson favorites for big guards.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
True
And the Lakers definitely KEEP and PLAY a lot of dead weight players. For this guy to be cut by them must mean Yue really stinks or Kobe doesn’t think Yue idolizes him enough.
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I vote the latter
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 6, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yue really stinks.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
whenever sun got a little p.t. last year
the game seemed a little too fast for him. he has potential, but lacks experience.
"I've hacked into your brain. You're throwing a party and no one's showing up."
He wasn't even the best player on the Lakers' D-League team.
The Magic had guys on their summer-league squad (like Russell Robinson) better than Sun.
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Does Russell Robinson have any entire country interested in watching him play?
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 6, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What does it matter?
Okay, seriously, even if all of China were interested in him, it wouldn’t matter, because that doesn’t affect the way he plays. And he wouldn’t play anyway, as the 15th man.
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It wouldn't hurt to sell additional thousands of jerseys.
Especially with Yao out for a season…
I know he wouldn’t play,but he could squeeze in for a min here & there
I don't know enough about him to say one way or the other.
His lack of playing time shouldn’t be considered a factor though, because Phil Jackson doesn’t like rookies in general, and he was playing on a team with a deep and well established bench.
"Fun fact: Larry Hughes, who couldn’t stay healthy if all his human parts were replaced with bionic implants, is out for the next four weeks with a bruised leg. Do you think that Willis Reed ever reads about all these players missing time with bruises and sprained fingers and throws up in his mouth a little?"
I don't even understand why we're talking about him.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Likewise, I was just adding to the discussion.
"Fun fact: Larry Hughes, who couldn’t stay healthy if all his human parts were replaced with bionic implants, is out for the next four weeks with a bruised leg. Do you think that Willis Reed ever reads about all these players missing time with bruises and sprained fingers and throws up in his mouth a little?"
Phil Jackson is not Greg Poppovich or Larry Brown
he’s far more willing to use rookies and youngsters.
"The problem actually is that PER is a extra-long, double high wagon load of horse crap." - timbo (7/3/09)
People aren't looking at the possibilities
If we do sign him we could trade JJ and AJ for another solid player because Yue can play both guard positions well
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
Where has he proven that he can play well, at all, at any position?
28 minutes of NBA experience, 27% shooting. 39% shooting in 200 D-League minutes.
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How about the Olympics
When I watched Yao’s team last year in the Olympics the big chinese point guard stood out from the rest of the team. He played really well not spectacular but under control. I found an article here explaining what yue did in the tourney. http://www.interbasket.net/news/482/2008/09/27/sun-yue-profile-2008-olympic-breakouts/
Sun Yue didn’t exactly tear it up in any one category at the Olympics, but the self-proclaimed Monkey King made a lasting impression with his ability to do a little of everything on the floor. His final statistics, 6.8 points, 2.5 assists, 1.7 rebounds, 1.3 steals and 1 block, didn’t sum up his contributions. Sun Yue’s effort, energy, and athleticism on the floor gave Team China another dimension. In six Olympic games, Sun Yue played 28 minutes a game, and shot an efficient 46.7% from the field, 35.3% from three, and 87.5% from the free throw.
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 6, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
And in the Olympics, Chris Bosh was better than Dwight Howard, which as we know has no bearing in the NBA.
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Actually it does Chris Bosh is the better offensive player
Yue has played in all the basketball leagues and is the starting point guard for a national team.
Jeez i don’t see where all this negative criticism is coming from. I show that Yue has played well versus NBA level talent which you asked for and you discount it. I’m confused
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 6, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
The FIBA and international basketball is a different animal than the NBA.
Yes, Bosh is a better offensive player than Howard, but he’s still not better than him.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
News flash, Sun freakin' Yue isn't coming to Orlando.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Here's all you need to know about Sun Yue.
On January 16, 2009, the Lakers hosted the Orlando Magic at the Staples Center. The Lakers’ backup point guard, Jordan Farmar, was injured. The Lakers played an elderly Derek Fisher for 41 minutes; in the fourth quarter, Jameer Nelson repeatedly scored off the exhausted Fisher, eventually leading the Magic to a 109-103 comeback win.
You remember this game. But do you remember why the Lakers played Fisher so long, even after it was obvious he was exhausted? THEY DID IT TO AVOID PLAYING SUN YUE.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
by 3.3seconds on Aug 6, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
it couldn't be the fact the matchup is bad
Yue is a 6’9 combo guard versus a lightning quick PG in Nelson… Urghh I’m not completely gung ho for Yue but everyone seems to be discounting his ability for some reason.
Why wouldn’t we want a big PG when we play against the Billups and Stuckeys of the NBA. Nelson isn’t getting any bigger
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 6, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
People discount him because he sucks.
Ridiculous Upside, which is generally biased in favor of D-League players—it ripped the Magic when they traded for Tyronn Lue rather than sign a D-Leaguer— called Sun “mediocre (to be generous).”’
He’s not worth a roster spot.
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When RU rips on a D-League guy, you know he's terrible.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Because a "big PG" is 6'4".
There’s not a single effective point guard in the league taller than that. (With the possible exception of Stuckey, and he’s a) not readlly 6’5", and B) not really a point guard. Not to criticize him, because he’s a good player — a good player who’s a natural SG.)
And yeah, some players might have a four-inch height advantage on Nelson. But if you think a four-inch height advantage is enough to make up for the fact that Nelson is the best point guard we have, and we have to be playing our game…
…well, you probably also think that Phil Jackson saw Derek Fisher single-handedly losing that game, and thought to himself, “well, what if I… no, wait, that’s a bad match-up.”
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
Maybe if we were owned by Disney
And called the Orlando Mickeys, we would sign someone purely for marketing purposes in China.
But until then, let’s stick to people who can play basketball, yeah?
by eltharion_doa on Aug 7, 2009 4:16 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Right,but if marketing & money weren't so important
We’d be paying a huge lux instead of the LAL or Cs
I can't believe it took Rashard Lewis testing positive for steroids errr a "banned substance" for everyone to stop talking about Sun Yue.
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i was expecting to read something to the effect that sun might provide some insight about the lakers’ x and o’s—which could prove beneficial to orlando in the event of a finals rematch.
No need for Yue's insight.
One Courtney Lee layup and 2 Dwight Howard free throws and you’re not posting on this FanPost.
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anyways, it should be a nba finals rematch of 2 seasons ago: celtics vs lakers…
with the lakers prevailing this time around, of course…
Thanks for the insider information.
I’m shocked you would come here and pick the Lakers to win it next year. That’s a ground breaking prediction on your part.
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Little too early for predictions.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
What are you talking about E!?!?
The Lakers are favorites to win it every year….even if Smush Parker is their starting PG!! I can always count on Lakers fans to remind me of that.
I’m still impressed at how they troll around SB Nation looking for any FanPosts that talk about Laker players…and give us their two cents about how that site’s team sucks and/or how they are winning the title next year. I wish I had the time to search for anytime someone makes a suggestion that AJ would be a nice backup for their team so I can reply to them with off the wall statements such as “Dwight Howard is the greatest player ever” and that “the Magic rule.” Kind of ridiculous isn’t it? I should write a post on 3QC about Josh Powell’s intangibles and see how quickly one of them shows up to remind me that their is no point in any team playing next season.
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love.
Case in point.
Might not be a Laker fan, but a Los Angeleno nonetheless. Unreal.
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Just ignore them.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
I didn’t do anything of the things you mentioned in your comment. I just think it is funny when you say a whole fan base is this or that. I don’t think that is rational or true. I would say it if you directed the comment toward any fan base of a team, no matter where the team is situated.
Let's just drop it.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
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