Orlando Magic News for August 10th: A Blast From The Past; the Magic's Off-Season Is Critiqued
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Lost in Translation
Neil Paine of Basketball-Reference takes the time to examine how NBA players of the present would fare with NBA players of the past, statistically. Dwight Howard is a subject in the test.What’s the method? Well, in the past we simply adjusted for pace, then league. Trouble is, pace adjustments assume a linear increase across the board — 20% more possessions equals 20% more rebounding chances equals 20% more turnovers… you get the idea. And worse yet, we can’t calculate pace accurately for seasons prior to 1973-74, due to a galling lack of statistical tracking on the NBA’s part, so we often end up having to make assumptions and estimations that tend to make everyone uncomfortable. So what’s the solution, then? Well, Bill James once suggested that instead of getting hung up on park factors, why don’t we worry about the player’s actual context — his team’s stats and those of his opponents? [...]
All of which is to say, I’m not going to deal with the league at all when making these translations. What if, instead, each team had their own FG/48 min. environment, their own TRB/48 environment, and so on? Then we could simply adjust each category by its own individual context (for instance, the 1973 Celtics’ rebounding environment, or the 1971 Phoenix Suns’ free-throw attempting environment), and not have to worry about pace or possessions at all.
The only catch? If we want to include all of NBA history, we have to pretend the 3-point shot never existed, especially if we’re translating backwards to a season before the bonus sphere was introduced in 1980. -
Nichols and Dime: Analyzing Changes in Shot Types Over the Course of a Game
Jon Nichols of Hardwood Paroxysm continues to analyze play-by-play data. Today, Nichols refines his examination of determining whether or not the increase of three-point shot attempts occurs only in late-game situations, or if the phenomenon occurs progressively throughout the game.Recently I explored how shot types change during the final two minutes of a game. However, that only gave snapshots based on certain timeframes that I chose. Looking at how those shot types change, second by second, is much more enlightening. That is what I will be doing today. For each shot type, I will calculate the total amount of attempts from every game this year for each second.
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How did the East teams fare in the offseason? John Hollinger offers an a la carte menu
John Hollinger of ESPN.com breaks down the off-season for the Eastern Conference and critiques how each team upgraded or downgraded their rosters. Here's what Hollinger had to say about the Magic:Orlando: The defending conference champs didn't exactly rest on their laurels, did they? At this juncture, in fact, their roster looks a lot more fearsome than it did at the end of last season. Carter is a major upgrade on Turkoglu, while free-agent additions Matt Barnes and Brandon Bass make what was a thin frontcourt suddenly look much deeper.
Add in whom they retained (Marcin Gortat) and returned (Jameer Nelson, after a shoulder injury wiped out the second half of his season) and the Magic look absolutely stacked. At this point, they have to be considered the favorites in the East, and depending on how this remix works out at the defensive end, there's a chance they could post a jaw-dropping win total.
The one reason for misgiving is a lack of backcourt depth after the trades of Rafer Alston and Courtney Lee to New Jersey; now Mickael Pietrus is a likely starter and J.J. Redick and Anthony Johnson will have to play major minutes, and another injury to Nelson could leave them exposed. -
Is the Magic's third point guard more crucial than meets the eye?
Tania Ganguli links to a RealGM.com article, which discusses Orlando's need for a third point guard on the roster. Last week, Ben elaborated on this topic and stated which players would fit best.
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i don't know why i'm doing this........
FIRST
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
Never do that again.
Seriously .. very annoying.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Magic are stacked!
Yes!
"Sold your body!! Oh Bender, I been down that road. I know it's glamorous, and the parties are great. But you'll end up spending every dollar you make on jewelery and skin-tight pants." -- Hubert J. Farnsworth
by Will Said Skills Pay the Billz? on Aug 10, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
I'm really happy to see someone at ESPN gloss the Magic in the offseason for once.
Unfortunately, once the season starts Bucher and Stein will be all over LA (even if they start the season 0-25) and the Magic will be relegated to underdogs. That’s fine…that’s how I like it.
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love...get it on Twitter : KingJafi29.
Stein'll be all over Boston too
I know it’s geographics, but the sheer amount of Boston love (in multiple sports) is nauseating. The Bruins are about the only team that doesn’t get absurd amounts of undeserved love, but that’s because the hockey writers aren’t from Beantown.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
I agree and disagree
Agree about the Boston stuff, its out of control. I went to law school there and the Boston love is obviously multiplied. I once had some guy yell “Magic Suck, Celtics Rule!!!” to me in the street cause I was wearing a Magic hat. And this was when both teams were awful. But fear not, the Bruins get love. They’re actually Montreal’s second team. Montreal! The mecca of hockey! And since the Expos have left, Montreal is now a part of Red Sox nation. Is it me or is that strange?
I will disagree about Stein. That guy is on no one except the Lakers all day long. If he’s on anyone else, its Kobe. Go to the dictionary and look up the word “homer” and Stein’s face is right there. I don’t even know if the guy is from LA. The crap he write is biased along with anyone else at ESPN involved in NBA coverage (generally). Freaking Adande used to write for the LA Times. And now that their west coast studio is practically in Staples Center….forget it. The whole thing makes Peter Gammons look like a Red Sox hater.
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love...get it on Twitter : KingJafi29.
Hollinger is almost always on point with his assessment.
He’s one of the few ESPN writers I thoroughly enjoy reading up on.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Notice how E compliments Hollinger.
Love the no comment on Stein.
Spreading that Calgary Flames, Montreal Expos, The U, and Orlando Magic love...get it on Twitter : KingJafi29.
My mother always taught me if you have something bad to say, don't say it at all.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
John Hollinger is absolutely right.
We did a very fine job,but not perfect. 3rd point is really important,of course,and we know it,so thank you,Tania. I don’t believe it is possible to compare players from back “then” and now,there is no formula for it. However,they’ll always try to do it. Good luck!

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