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Poll: Who Should Be The Team's Third Point Guard?

Understandably, things have died down for general manager Otis Smith in free agency, given that he's gone out and amassed the bulk of the roster for the upcoming season. What remains for the Orlando Magic on the checklist is a third point guard. It appeared that C.J. Watson [the man in the picture] would join the Magic soon after the team signed Matt Barnes, but extenuating circumstances (specifically, money) may prevent that from happening. Thus, Orlando is still looking another floor general.

 

Preferably, the player would be someone that plays defense and shoots the three.

 

With that said, who should that guy be?

 

Discuss.

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Can they afford Fred Jones?

He used to be pretty nasty. That would be a great pick up.

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by KingJafi on Aug 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was awful last year.

Also, he battled injuries all season, he’s injury-prone, he’s out of shape (6’2", 225?), and he was always more of a shooting guard anyway.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Aug 1, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd err for Luther Head, given that he's a Chicago guy and I have a bias for anyone from the 'Go.

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by erivera7 on Aug 1, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but he's not a point guard, is he?

15.5 minutes per game last year, 1.8 assists? He’s never put up PG-type numbers… his career average is under 1 assist every 10 minutes. And he’s not so good that one figures he can deal with being shifted out-of-position.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Aug 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he's more of a wing player.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by big aaron on Aug 1, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hah.

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by erivera7 on Aug 1, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Salim Stoudamire?

Great 3point shooter (at least at Arizona)… don’t know about defense.

by bandrewg08 on Aug 1, 2009 5:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not really a PG (more a SG)

but if we trade JJ to get our point guard, then I’d vote to put Salim on the roster as a sharp shooter off the [end of] bench.

btw, OT, but if we’re talking about filling out the roster and sharp shooters, where does Szczerbiak land this year? He’d be another to consider at vet min if JJ goes in a trade. Not that I think he’ll settle for the min, but he didn’t have a real good showing the playoffs so demand for him may be down….

by magicfaninTN on Aug 1, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can tell you where Wally won't land, in Orlando.

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by erivera7 on Aug 1, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not on the team's radar.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Defense? one word. horrid.

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by ben_gleicher on Aug 1, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that immediately disqualifies him from consideration.

Plus Salim is more of a wing player, and an undersized one at that.

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by erivera7 on Aug 1, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really

Wally would be like an older slower version of JJ. I’d take JJ over him any day.

by Eric9321 on Aug 2, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will Conroy?

Not much upside but I liked what I saw out of him.

by Jwoey on Aug 1, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel it should be a guy who’s been playing 25-30 minutes somewhere, even if it’s the D-League or overseas. We already know Johnson can’t play more than 15-20 minutes a game, so if Jameer gets hurt. we need someone to fill up that time. Which is my problem with the idea of hiring an older player. (Aside from the fact that older players are more expensive.)

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Aug 1, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A little undersized, and this might be Gator homerism...

…but why not Taurean Green? He can shoot from 3 and is a good distributor. He’s a great guy too.

by Swami Digital on Aug 1, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't think he's NBA caliber

There really is NO ONE left, lol. Watson was the best option. It would’ve probably been better to use the 1.8 million on Watson and then find another wing for the minimum. Cause with PG’s there really is SLIM pickings. The only decent options are Tinsley and Jason Williams, but they’re unlikely to go for the vets min. Tinsley is a more likely possibility because he really just wants to play basketball again and is looking for the right fit over the right price.

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by ben_gleicher on Aug 1, 2009 6:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tinsley is going to have a hard time looking for a job in the NBA.

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by erivera7 on Aug 1, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hope not

I don’t care much for gansta wanna be’s on the court or in our town.

by Eric9321 on Aug 2, 2009 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did you really just give me an opportunity to say...

…actually I don’t need to say it. I think I’ve made it clear who my choice would be for weeks now.

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by KingJafi on Aug 1, 2009 7:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My take with plusses and minuses for each player--probably a post of its own

Carlos Arroyo $???
  NBA experience, Magic experience
  -Magic experience
  Sign him for 2 years with TO on 2nd year (or partially guaranteed 2nd year)
  
Chris Duhon $6.0M
  pretty good PG, time with Knicks showed unless he focuses on conditioning he’s really suited to be a backup
  -expensive one-year rental (since his contract expires…some see this as a plus) & he will cost us an arm and a leg (either AJ and JJ or the full TPE).

If we give up the TPE for one player who is an expiring contract, I’d want to see a draft pick coming our way with the player. I don’t really want to use the TPE for a high priced rental….I want a better return. (Maybe in this case we either get their 2012 pick or swap our 2011 1st rounder for theirs to move up the board, since their 2010 pick is gone).

However, the NYKs would get a $6M TPE which might really benefit them. They’ve already traded away their 2010 1st round pick and because they have sought to target the 2010 free agents by collecting a roster of expiring contracts, they have to replace almost their entire roster next off-season. (And I still think LeBron disses them.)
  
Rafer Alston $5.3M
  pretty good PG, Magic experience, contract expires this year
  -Magic experience, expensive one year rental (see Duhon)
  Compared to the Knicks, the Nets have both a better roster for next year and both draft picks, so they aren’t as in need of a sizeable TPE, but it would be big time cap relief for them, so I’d want a pick.
  
Luke Ridnour $6.5M
  pretty good PG (pure point)
  -expensive one year rental (see Duhon)
  He’s really only available either if Milwaukee matches for Sessions or prefers to bring in a minimum salary vet to tutor Jennings. Otherwise they need Ridnour to start while Jennings learns.
 
At one point, I would have put Steve Blake $4M on this list, but Portland announced no more moves until camp despite having added Andre Miller as the starter with last year’s lottery pick Jerad Bayless as a backup (that’s a real vote of confidence for Bayless).
 
Really, after that, it’s pretty much even, imo We’re not getting a #2 PG as much as we’re getting a #2b to split/share with #2a, Anthony Johnson who I still think is the best of the rest. ‘Cause they all come with either with lots of experience and a whole lotta miles on their odometer OR very little experience. All have some pluses AND minuses (some score, some distribute, some defend, some don’t, some are really SG in PG bodies), but none do it all. And the biggie: very few of them would be a suitable full time PG if Jameer goes down—though splitting time evenly with AJ might be good enough for a stretch of the season.

The FA vets (in my preferred order) are: Anthony Carter, Flip Murray, Jason Williams, Brevin Knight, Tyronn Lue, Luther Head, (below here aren’t really options, imo) Royal Ivey, Bobby Jackson, Jacque Vaughn, Juan Dixon, Tinsley (please, no), Jason Hart.

The rookie-level names include: Boston-reject Gabe Pruitt, SLer Russell Robinson, Laker-reject Sun Yue, and other DLeaguers I’m not yet familiar with.

Or a ridiculously expensive alternative is to offer to take Beno Udrih‘s astronomically over-paid $27M/4yr deal from Sacramento (he’s a reasonable backup who’s sort of a SG, but he’s been their starting PG +his first 3 years were with the Spurs) for the TPE ($6M this year), $3M cash to pay 1/2 2009-10, and one of the Kings’ two first round picks in 2010 (their own or the Suns’). We’d be tied to Beno for 4 years (unless we find someone more desperate than we are), but we’d have a servicable backup PG and turned the loss of Hedo into a high 1st round/lottery pick.

by magicfaninTN on Aug 1, 2009 9:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not sure how to get the plus sign to show up in a post

but the plus for each player its the first line under each player. The minuses follow the minus sign “-”

by magicfaninTN on Aug 1, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

two more fixes

1. if we want Beno Udrih, then trade JJ and AJ rather than use the TPE, ’cause Sacramento needs the players. Use the TPE to fill in another wing to replace JJ. and sign a min PG for #3

2. It’s the Thunder who have 2 first rounders in 2010, not Sacramento. Oops. So there goes that idea.

by magicfaninTN on Aug 1, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't know we still had a TPE.

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by hevchv on Aug 2, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Real great stuff tho, AJ is better than most, we need a 2b or a real quality backup PG. I likes Ridnour, Arroyo, and you seem to have something with Udrih but Magic would need mega compensation for the rest of that deal.

by derekk on Aug 2, 2009 12:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Udrih's not special to me

I just float him out, ’cause I need other people smarter than me to suggest what we could reasonable extract from the Kings if we take on his contract. It seems to be one of those cases where the Kings have a big need. We have a little need (backup PG), but a big asset in the TPE. Just wondering what other people think it would be worth to make the deal.

They traded for Sergio Rodriguez who is a backup PG and drafted Tyreke Evans—purportedly to start at the 1 alongside Kevin Martin, so they seem like Beno’s not top priority. Though I suspect he could be a solid backup (who has starting experience in case Jameer goes down).

Arroyo’s probably the best option, imo, if (1) he’s clear on his role, (2) didn’t burn too many bridges last time he was here, (3) and doesn’t get a starting promise with another team. Then we can keep JJ and AJ on our roster. Bring Arroyo in at something equal to the bi-annual level?

by magicfaninTN on Aug 2, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wasting the TPE on Duhon or Udrih would be a terrible move.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relax folks

Otis has the situation under control.
IN OTIS WE TRUST

by ROBERTOHENRY on Aug 1, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we trust. we're relaxed.

just talkin’ about the options. :-)

by magicfaninTN on Aug 1, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we can't get an up-and-comer,

we should settle on a PG that has potential as a coach. Everything I’ve read points to T. Lue as having a high basketball IQ (at least higher than those listed above). Otherwise, let’s bring D. Armstrong back with a strong cup o’ joe.

by downbeatitude on Aug 1, 2009 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Armstrong is an assistant coach.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anthony Johnson should be our 3rd point guard

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by Eyriq the Red on Aug 2, 2009 12:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't see why, when Johnson has proven he can be a serviceable backup.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boo

AJ should be 3rd if we can get a decent PG like a Watson. Without Hedo to steal the ball from AJ, there is no telling how bad it could get.

by Eric9321 on Aug 2, 2009 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the criticism towards Johnson is unwarranted.

He’s effective playing 15 minutes a night. I have no problem with him backing up Jameer, again.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You are entitled

to that opinion. But I am dead set on my loathing of AJ. I think he is okay to bring the ball up the floor and spot up on the wings, while Hedo was running the offense, but when he ended up running the offense, bad things happened a lot of times.

by Eric9321 on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, Vince Carter can do what Hedo Turkoglu did.

Matt Barnes can play point forward, as well.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Serviceable backup? Not so sure. His WARP shows him to be below replacement level, and just watching him play tells me that he is slow and unable to initiate the offense effectively. At times he can get his shot going, but he does not really create for others and has a tough time pushing the pace against the press. I appreciate what he does but I think the overall value of his output is not rotation worthy.

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by Eyriq the Red on Aug 2, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm aware of his numbers, but I stand by my statement.

If push came to shove, of course I would want Watson over Johnson, but that’s not going to happen so I’m content with Anthony backing up Jameer. Not like he’s going to see a lot of minutes.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3rd?

So I guess the fact that just about every fastbreak Johnson ran last season ended in an Old-man dunk means nothing to you? I know for certain I saw him do it 4-5 times last season. Every time a defender turned his back on him he took it to the rack. Yes I realize he gets EXPOSED and slows down when he plays more than 15 mins. But he is a backup, and a cheap one at that, and in my opinion he plays the backup spot with passsion. I never saw him whine or try to make a big play to get attention. Just steady work from a guy that dont know quit. I cant think of many guys in the league making $2,062,800 that do that kind of work. I mean somebody was suggesting to pay 6+ mil.a year for 4 years for Urich??? He is just a backup and if we lose Jameer to injury ( hold breath knock on wood ) Otis will move a much coveted Gortat ( the reason we signed him ) for a SOLID PG + a couple picks. In addition to keeping a solid young center, the signing of Gortat was insurance so we dont need to get a big name backup PG. All bases are covered with an old man and a NBADLer yet to be announced.

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by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Aug 2, 2009 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Acquiring Udrih would be a terrible move on so many levels.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 4:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just to be clear

Listing the possibility of getting Udrih and suggesting it are vastly different. Not doing the latter.

And you make me think of an interesting point regarding if Jameer gets hurt. In order to move Gortat for a PG, we have to have someone on the other side of the trade who’s willing to play along. I think we got lucky last year with Rafer. Don’t know as we should count on that going forward.

by magicfaninTN on Aug 2, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are crazy IMO

AJ can be an okay backup, but that lowly 2mil you mentioned is the same price we got a Matt Barnes for. AJ has his moments, and he can get the job done if need be in a backup fashion, but I do not like his game, unless it is as I mentioned in the above post, as a bring the ball up the floor, give the ball to someone else and go spot up on the wing. Those 4-5 dunks can not mask the countless goofy dribble drives that ended in turnovers. I stand behind my view as I watched Hedo run to AJ as he crossed mid court to make sure AJ didn’t do anything craazy with the ball. As long as someone else is in the game to initiate the half court offense when AJ is PG, then we can manage. Otherwise, I got $5 that says I will be able to tell you I told you so many, many times next year! :D

by Eric9321 on Aug 2, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

numbers tell a slightly different story

I’m not arguing what you saw or your perception of AJ, but the hard numbers aren’t quite as bad as you might make it sound. You’re right that AJ turns the ball over more than Hedo % wise, but not by much. They both drop off from Jameer.

Basketball Reference.com says:


Per36 A/TO……TOV%….. AST%
Meer ..6.2/2.3…..12.6…….. 31.2
Hedo..4.8/2.6…..14.6…….. 22.4
AJ…….4.9/2.0…..16.4……..21.2

Key:
Per36 Assists/Turnovers
TOV% Turnover Percentage, estimate of turnovers per 100 plays
AST% Assist Percentage, estimate of percentage of teammate field goals a player assisted while he was on the floor.

82games.com says:

Turnovers: AJ/Hedo
Offensive fouls 8/18
Bad Passes 46/108
Ball Handling TO 26/78
Other 2/0
‘Hands Rating’ 16.8/17.8
Minutes per game 18.30/36:36

So in one sense, Hedo was on the court 2x as much as AJ, but had just more than 2x the turnovers.

by magicfaninTN on Aug 2, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, my statement is not backed up AT ALL

by numbers, just by watching a few games live and all aired games on tv. That is just my impression of the guy, I really get a bad taste in my mouth watching him play, sorry. Hopefully if he stays the backup I will be made to be wrong, no one wants that more than me!

by Eric9321 on Aug 2, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Numbers usually tell the story

Because AJ is not starter material he is a backup. 4.9 assists to 2.0 turnovers is a ratio I can live with from a BACKUP. I challenge you to find me more than one backup that gets 18 mins a game and produces like that.
Now I do agree when I think of exciting full court press AJ does not come to mind, but thats probably why he is a backup.

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by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Aug 2, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll play

Boobie Gibson – Cleveland
Kirk Hinrich – Chicago
DJ Augustin – Charlotte
Luke Ridnour – Milwaukee
Keyon Dooling – NJ

I’ll stop. wink I love AJ, too.

by magicfaninTN on Aug 2, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

see that is a good class of players to be in

You can insert AJ in that group and those are prob. some of the better bench PG in the game.
cept for Gibson he was awful last year.

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by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Aug 3, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

Everyone would hate Hedo, but he made a LOT of great plays to help win games, greatly offsetting his cumbersome, goofy turnover drives to the rim or ill advised juimp shots.

by Eric9321 on Aug 2, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

loved hedo

but never has one player made me throw so many things at the tv out of frustration. That is a turnover machine, and he is a starter.

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by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Aug 2, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The free agent market has substantially changed in a year.

I don’t think Anthony Johnson should be blamed for his contract, compared to Matt Barnes.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The veteran presence that Johnson brings to this team can't be overstated.

Stan can get to be a bit much. I firmly believe that having AJ in the locker room helps keep this ship stable, especially in a year with so much transition. He’s a true professional. He makes the right decision, every time, all the time. That’s the type of player he is. The ball can move a little slower, and we can lose a second of speed on defense for that type of backup play. How many backups in the league do idiotic things on the court. Stan never has to worry about what AJ is going to do.

by farfromfl on Aug 2, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well said.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

I don’t think it makes much of a difference. This third string point guard is never going to get any playing time anyway. And if Nelson gets hurt again, you can bet Otis will be looking to ship out Gortat to bring back a strong caliber player.

But if I had a personal preference I’d pick Juan Dixon. I think he’s a free agent and I really loved that 2001-2002 Maryland team. And since this person really won’t be required to have an impact, I’ll go with my heart.

by Lee for three on Aug 2, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, in the end, it doesn't make any difference.

But at the very least, Otis could look for a third point guard that can eventually replace Anthony Johnson.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone like Damon Jones

He is still a great 3 point shooter that doesn’t turn the ball over like House

by Souwantmyname on Aug 2, 2009 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with the options out there, he has my vote..

He can come in and get hot quick.

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by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Taylor was just waived by the Clippers.

Is he any good?

Looks like a 6-2 Shooting Guard to me, but someone else may have better opinions.

by thermodynamic on Aug 2, 2009 3:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's a wing player, who is extremely inefficient on offense.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MIKE TAYLOR

 MIKE TAYLOR

Here are 2 quick articles on Mike Taylor

Jet fast point guard who can score & defend! will play for the minimum
think Armstrong energy with more size & skills

Saw him kill in D League Championship , See what Coach Gates said who was
twice NBADL coach of the year and just got called up to Sacramento

http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/taylor_080425.html

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/12008354

BOISE MAGIC

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by Boise Magic on Aug 2, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nash

Why not lets trade JJ Reddick for Nash, maybe we can get them to throw in Grant Hill if we include the rights to Fran Vasquez. C’mon we already have done exceedingly well in this off-season, lets be happy with whatever no-name bum we end up with.

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by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Aug 2, 2009 4:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mike WIlks to rise, Phoenix-like, from the ashes

to average a triple-double off the end of the bench and win us the championship

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by big aaron on Aug 2, 2009 5:49 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heh. I could live with that

sorry I completely left him off my list. big oversight.

by magicfaninTN on Aug 2, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There must be someone in the D-league

Who can shoot the three and play some D.

by eltharion_doa on Aug 2, 2009 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MIKE TAYLOR

 MIKE TAYLOR

Here are 2 quick articles on Mike Taylor

Jet fast point guard who can score & defend! will play for the minimum
think Armstrong energy with more size & skills

Saw him kill in D League Championship , See what Coach Gates said who was
twice NBADL coach of the year and just got called up to Sacramento

http://www.nba.com/dleague/news/taylor_080425.html

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/12008354

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by Boise Magic on Aug 2, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks it will be a scrub.

I am cool with Dad as long as Jameer can stay healthy.. The TPE might be our saving grace.. We are so solid from 2-5.. Almost impossible to have a killer bench player at every position.. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a trade like the Lakers pulled of last year and get a player like Shannon Brown.

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by Wmillion on Aug 2, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We gotta get Jason Williams

I had saw last year that Magic were looking at him b/c he has home in area. But he would be perfect fit. He can back up Jameer and AJ would be third string. If Jameer got hurt he could start. Plus he has championship experience and anything less than a title is unacceptable this year

by billyba on Aug 2, 2009 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jason Williams is done

Defends like a sieve, is slower than a glacier and shoots under 40% – 35% from the 3. And he’s 34.

There’s no point having championship experience if you can’t play.

by eltharion_doa on Aug 2, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

besides the Knicks made the first move

and grabbed his rights off the waiver wire, so everyone else has to wait for them to make a decision.

which seems to be the case in the PG realm anyway. dominoes may fall more into place once they sort out Duhon-Sessions-Tinsley-Williams-Nate Robinson-etc. man, they’re talking to a lot of people.

by magicfaninTN on Aug 2, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Jameer Nelson got hurt and Jason Williams started, the Magic would be in trouble.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason Williams can rack up some assists, but that's all he's got left.

He can’t move side to side anymore, period. I love watching the old tapes, but you won’t even be able to trust him to stay healthy. I hate to say this about anyone, but he’s washed up.

by farfromfl on Aug 2, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Williams' defense was atrocious when he was in his prime.

I can’t even imagine what it’s like now, in his mid-30s, after taking an entire year off. We need a younger, fresher guy.

He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.

by 3.3seconds on Aug 2, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AJ would be ok backup again

I’d prefer a good 3 shooting PG like CJ Watson but since money an issue they get a young point guard make him 3rd string and when AJ contract’s up and he could be the backup

by GoMagic000 on Aug 2, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trade Marcin for Ramon Sessions when the time comes

Unless you guys think that would make Jameer feel to insecure… At least Sessions would be playing behind an all-star and not old Luke ridnour, or a rookie. Sessions is going to be a great PG for years to come.

by farfromfl on Aug 2, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Doubt that'll happen, given that the Knicks are preparing to sign Sessions to an offer sheet.

.. and Ramon is a starter in the NBA. There’s no way he’s going to be playing off the bench.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we all want a starting point guard to be the backup

and while that’s ideal, it doesn’t look too realistic (even though as mentioned we kind of have that at the 2-5). starters don’t always like to be bench players (see Duhon, summer 2008 and Gortat, summer 2009).

it can make for an unhappy backup player. CJ Watson would have been icing on the cake (starting PG on a bad team moving to backup on a good team). Oh well. Still waiting for icing, but I’m pretty happy with the cake.

by magicfaninTN on Aug 2, 2009 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not expecting a starting point guard to be the backup.

I just want to see someone that’s serviceable.

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by erivera7 on Aug 2, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have

possible starters at every other backup position, why can’t we want one for PG too? :)

by Eric9321 on Aug 3, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mike taylor

I agree with Boise Magic,Mike Taylor is being looked at along with Travis Deiner

by olemanrockin on Aug 2, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

By who? Certainly, not the Magic.

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by erivera7 on Aug 3, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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