In Defense of Hedo Turkoglu, Kind Of
This post isn't an easy one for me to write. My parents raised me to honor my commitments, be they verbal or written, and I always strive to do that.
Hedo Turkoglu works a bit differently, it turns out. After reaching an agreement in principle (semantic note: not "on princples") to sign with the Portland Trail Blazers for 5 years and $50 million, the free-agent small forward backed out, and will reportedly sign a 5-year deal worth $56 million with the Toronto Raptors instead. This post at Blazer's Edge, SB Nation's Trail Blazers blog, has a brilliant, must-read timeline of what transpired.
Understandably, Blazer fans are upset. The guy their team pegged as their first big free-agency signee in recent history backed out of a verbal commitment very nearly at the last second, preferring instead to sign with a worse team (he doesn't care about winning!) for more money (he's selfish!), and apparently at the encouragement of his wife (he's whipped!).
Easy enough arguments to understand, in some ways. But there's another way to look at Turk's actions.
The man is 30 years old, married, with a small child. His market value has never been higher, and because of his age, this is his last opportunity to sign a big NBA deal. He wants to maximize his earning potential, and he did that.
And here comes the oft-heard argument about how there isn't a huge difference between $10 million--the average annual salary his contract with the Blazers would have paid him--and $11.2 million, the average annual salary he'll earn with the Raptors. With either payday, he'll be richer than most people can ever dream of being, and the $1.2 million difference per year won't drastically change his lifestyle.
But the NBA is a business. By switching from Portland to Toronto, Turk has increased his annual salary by 10.7%. Now let's say your good buddy Fred is unemployed, but has a highly valuable set of skills in his particular field. He meets with the executives at Company X, which makes him an excellent offer which he accepts almost completely. The lawyers get to work drawing up a contract. But before they can finish, Company Y, which is located in a city more to his liking, comes along and makes him an offer exceeding X's by 10.7% annually.
"So, when do you start at Company Y?" you ask him.
"Never," he says. "I stayed with Company X because I already committed to them."
You'd probably never let him live that one down, would you? Damn what he already committed to, he could have made a ton more money in a city more suited to his taste had he just been willing to break off the deal.
See, Turk isn't so different from most of us. He does silly things when he's excited, he likes to eat pizza, and he wants to make his family happy. None of these are damnable offenses, unless you happen to believe all athletes should be completely noble and selfless, turning down any amount of money if it means a better chance of winning a title. We don't hold ourselves to such standards, so it's silly to hold athletes to them.
And if we're honest, Portland actually made out pretty well in this whole thing. I was never convinced that Hedo, an offensive-minded player arguably slightly passed his prime, made sense for the young, offensively-elite Blazers. They still have a ton of money to offer free agents, or--and this is an underrated aspect of having cap space--they can absorb a huge contract in a trade and land another star player, perhaps one who is a better fit for their team.
This whole situation rings familiar to Magic fans, who watched two years ago as University of Florida Billy Donovan coach signed a contract--he didn't just agree to one, he actually signed it--with the Magic, only to get second thoughts and ask out of his deal a day later. When reports of his wishy-washiness first surfaced, I (hyperbolically, in retrospect) called his decision to leave the lowest point in Magic history. The Magic wound up having the last laugh, signing Stan Van Gundy just a few days later. Van Gundy led the Magic to a 52-win season in his first year with the team, and had them 3 wins from a championship in his second campaign. Donovan? He hasn't managed to get the Gators to the NCAA tournament since his brief stay with the Magic, as UF has lost in the NIT in each of the last two seasons.
Point being? Blazer fans will never forget what Hedo did to their team, and they'll boo him unmercifully any time he touches the ball in the Rose Garden from now until his career ends. But they'll also come to realize that Turk and the Raptors did them a favor by preventing them from overpaying for his services. Portland won't rue the day it lost Hedo, nor will Hedo rue the day he left Portland. It's just that right now, only one side of the relationship has come to that realization.
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I'm not sure I completely agree with the money issue.
It seems like most players, as they get older, prefer championships. At least the good (skill-wise) players do. Maybe he didn’t see the Blazers as having championship potential with him there? I know I didn’t.
Turk wanted to get paid, simple as that.
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Yes,he's from Turkey,LOL
It’s all about money. Never enough. If there is a point when it’s enough,Roman Abramovich would not be all around the world investing and making more of it.
Excellent post, Ben.
Definitely worthy of a ‘rec’ ..
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i really don't think it matters
at this point. he wanted to get paid, he knows the eastern conference, and his wife loves toronto. it’s not the end of the world.
truthfully, the blazers don’t need another sf.
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It works for everyone, really
Not sure why Toronto want him so badly, but I didn’t think he was a good fit with Portland at all.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 4, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
although he is gonna be paying more in taxes up there so
the money point may be moot.
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Yeah I also remember Toronto taxes being really high
by thermodynamic on Jul 4, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
National income tax 29%, province tax of 11.16%. Total 40.16%.
Compared to the US, where the national tax is 35% and Oregon whack another 9% on top of that. Total 44%.
He’s better off in Canada.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 4, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I ran through a couple financial sites I know
The best estimates I can get are:
Portland: $10M/year
US taxes: $3,474,360
Oregon taxes: $898,632
Post-tax income: $5,627,008
Toronto: $11.2M/year
Total taxes: $5,178,759
Post-tax income: $6,021,241
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I never thought Portland was a good fit for him anyway.
Toronto i think will benefit more from his play. I think he will be good addition for them and fit in well there. I can see the alley to Bosh now. I don’t blame him for wanting to secure his family’s future and go to a place here he will be happy. A Happy Turk is a Productive Turk.
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He made the right decision.
Why would you turn your back on 1.2 million a year because of a few more wins?
Portland is just not a contender,Hedo or not.
Portland is in the playoffs, Hedo or not
and young and improving, Hedo or not. They are more of a contender than Toronto will be for a long, long time.
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by Honka Playboy on Jul 6, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions
True. No one can sanely argue otherwise.
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I have no problem with Hedo going to Toronto.
More money, bigger city, large Turkish community in Toronto, and you gotta keep the wife happy. I think Hedo on Portland is more fun to watch than Hedo on Toronto, but I think they make they playoffs as a 7-8 seed now.
What are the taxes like in Canada?
I can’t imagine that he is gonna keep much of that money.
Lower top tax bracket than in the US
Although it kicks it at a much lower threshold, it won’t make much difference to someone earning as much as Turk.
Province taxes are higher in Ontario, but not enough to make up the difference.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 4, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
and supposedly you get much more return on the tax dollars in Canada.
Like free healthcare, free milk for kids, etc.
No.
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I wouldn't boo him, but he forever created his new nickname Hedon't
At least locally
If you want to trade our spare parts for Devin Harris, I have three quarters I would like to trade for your dollar
Eh, it happens.
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I think the familiarity in bigs also aided his decision.
The last two years he played with Shard, a versatile 4 who is athletic and can shoot the three. He leaves to go to Toronto where he now has Bosh, a versatile 4 who is athletic and can shoot the three. He is now confortable with his decision imo.
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It's not exactly if Portland doesn't have European favor either
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No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
So in other words, your defense of Hedo amounts to Latrell Sprewell's "I've got a family to feed."
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."-George W. Bush
If I was Kobe Bryant and I was on this particular contract and wanted to create some kind of inroads for the future
Then yes. But, for Hedo Turkoglu? No.
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It's easy for people to say they'd pass up more money if they're not in the situation.
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by erivera7 on Jul 5, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The other part of this too ER that Section 214 on StR brought this up
Who leaked that Hedo signed? ESPN. They cited “sources”. Hedo never held a presser saying “OH yes, I’m definitely going to sign in Portland.”
The more important point, I think, is why Portland was so hot to trot over Hedo to begin with all the young talent they have there anyway. Alot of Bedger’s are saying that Hedo wasn’t worth it due to PER (among other things) and the money/contract they would had to have given him.
The last point I agree with, the PER I don’t (it’s not a metric that illuminates Hedo well although it does highlight several weaknesses) , and the first point has yet to be answered.
We shall see. This whole nonsense of loyalty is funny. The only loyal people involved in the NBA are fans.
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Well .. Hedo isn't worth the money.
But I wouldn’t use PER to strengthen my argument. You know me, I’d toss out adjusted plus/minus, net plus/minus, statistical plus/minus, WARP, Win Shares, etc. Even then, the stats don’t do him justice. In the end, it doesn’t matter. Turkoglu isn’t worth $10 mill/year.
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if i was already going to get millions to begin with, no.
Greed before the game is anathema to me. If you can’t be happy being wealthier than a vast majority of the population, something’s wrong with you. In the words of the great Lewis Black: “How much stuff can you buy? How much shit do you need?”
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I don't think it's necessarily greed
I think Turk feels he will be much happier in Toronto.
If someone offered me more money to live in a city I liked than a city I had no strong feelings for, it’d be a nobrainer for me too.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 5, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Everything's relative though.
You or me going somewhere else for a pay raise is one thing, but a millionaire going somewhere else to get even more millions makes no sense to me.
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."-George W. Bush
Let me amend that slightly.
I would love to have the opportunity to go live somewhere else whether it was for a job or not, so I won’t begrudge him that, but to go there mainly for money when you’re obviously pretty good in that department is borderline retarded.
"I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future."-George W. Bush
Part of it was money, but part of it was being able to live in Toronto.
.. a city that his family feels comfortable in, which counts for something.
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As I said
I don’t think it was as much about the money as it was about Toronto being a better fit for him.
The fact it’s a better fit and more money makes it a no-brainer.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 5, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
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I personally think it was a weak move.
You a week to decide where you want to go. You can’t officially sign a deal anyway, why verbally commit? That was the mistake. Going to the highest bidder was not.
It still stings for the blazer organization/fans, but you don’t look like scum, if you handle it right. You know there are multiple teams wooing you, be smart.
I personally think he would have fit in well in Ptown, but oh well. I just hope Orlando can sign one quality starter/back-up.
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