Sources: Hedo Turkoglu has reached an agreement in principle to become a Portland Trail Blazer.
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sobs
I mean we knew he was leaving like a week ago....
"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest
Kristin Kreuk is teh love.
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
Have you been sobbing the last 6 hours?
Or did you take a break in the middle there?
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
Damn it
I still don’t see him as a good fit there.
STAY HEDO, STAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"It's difficult to win when you're outscored in every quarter." -Bill Walton
And so it finally ends . . .
I knew it was a LONG shot but I was still hoping for the best or to at least get something in return :(
I pray that this at least frees up Otis to become more aggro with the top remaining FAs on our list.
GET IT DONE NOW OTIS!!!
Farewell Hedo . . . You will be sorely missed :’(
Agreed
it’s sad to see Hedo go….but if he was going to sign somewhere else, better to get it done quickly so we don’t miss out on other players whlie still trying to find a way to bring him back.
I honestly don’t understand why Portland was so enamored. They need help at the PG and C positions. They already have plenty of good shooters and wing players.
by Lee for three on Jul 3, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think the Blazers need help at the center position.
Pryzbilla and Oden is a good combination.
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I'm sure you guys will try to convince yourselves that Oden is going to work out
Especially when you wouldn’t need Turkoglu if you had drafted Durant like you should have. Roy and Durant at the 2 and 3 would be downright scary. And I guess going after a center this soon would be an admission by the front office that they made a huge mistake. But I don’t believe Oden is a franchise center.
And Pryzbilla is solid defensively and on the boards, but with the abundance of solid wing players and shooters Portland has…I don’t think they needed to throw this kind of money at Hedo.
by Lee for three on Jul 3, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew he was as good as gone, but...
…that makes essentially 5 players now gone (3 starters) from a team that was only a couple of plays away from being UP 3-1 with a home game 5 to seal the deal. Oye!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
OK but honestly
If Nelson never got hurt, Alston never would have been on the team. Battie only counts as half a player because he hardly ever played. And Gortat was good, but we couldn’t sign him to a $5mil a year deal to play 10 minutes a night.
by Lee for three on Jul 3, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not discounting any of these things, BUT...
…it’s just odd to see that many changes on a team that made it to and was competitive in the Finals despite only taking it 5 games. That’s all I’m saying…
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
These changes were inevitable.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
In general, these changes were a choice; they were not inevitable
The Magic could have resigned Hedo and not traded Courtney, but they chose a different strategy. (The one exception here is Gortat, who was always long gone.)
I’m not criticizing the strategy— there were good reasons to acquire Vince and give up Lee and, by inference, Hedo (mostly having to do with Hedo’s length of contract). But it’s a risky choice, given how successful the Magic were this past season. I just hope Otis made the right choice.
by gift of the magi on Jul 3, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
What er said
Otis Smith made them inevitable by doing it now. In a way, I think it makes the Magic tougher long term.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah they will
Hedo gives them far more options they than before.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
they didn't have^
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Agreed.
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Fudge!!!!
And I don’t care if I get moderated and/or banned for my language.
At least Hedo will be in nearby Portland and this gives me a good excuse to jump on the Blazers bandwagon now.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
So make Portland your Western Conference team
We know something you don't know
And if we don't share then we don't grow
Unabomber set the whole world on fire
Done and done
Plus they have really cool road jerseys.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
You could even drive to see them.....
If you were crazy.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I would most likely take the train
It makes me feel classy in an odd sense.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
Beautiful ride too
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You'll be missed, Hedo
Good thing I am also a Blazers fan.
Now I just hope Rudy Fernandez stays in the NBA.
My optic presentation sizzles the retina
How far must you go to gain respect? Um...
Well, it's kind of simple, just remain your own
Or you'll be crazy, sad and alone
Hate to see you go..
I am glad someone in the West is trying to assemble a team to compete with the Lakers.. GO bLAZERS..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
Don't worry..
The Lakers are HATED in this town and the players know this. They always play there best against the Lakers. In fact, one of my favorite moments last season was when they gave the Lakers a beat down. At one point they were up 25+ (at the end of the 3rd quarter). Then the “Ariza” incident happened……
Don't forget about the San Antonio Spurs.
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farewell turk
the coolest, most unpredictable, crazy player to pull out so many miracles in the closing seconds of a game.
hopefully next season we will be up by 5 with ten seconds to go in every game so that we don’t have to rely on you to win the games.
also, i will forever miss the absolutely perfect lobs you can throw to dwight
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
Hedo will be missed, for sure.
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Hedo
So we gained Vince Carter, Ryan and lost Hedo, Gortat, Lee, Alston, and Battie. We seem to have taken steps backwards here. Unless we can pull in a good PF and a decent backup center, we are going in the wrong direction.
oh no no no...
you don’t want sheed. We have some not so fond memories of him in PDX…..‘both teams played hard….’ It’s a classic here in Portland.
Pizza stock in Portland just rose.
"It's difficult to win when you're outscored in every quarter." -Bill Walton
I don't like this move for Portland
SF was not a position they were lacking in. Even if the deal turns out to be closer to the 50 million/ 5 years that ESPN suggests rather than 60 million/ 5 years, that’s too much money for a player that’s significantly older than your core who plays a position you’re already fairly deep in.
They need Hedo
They need another ball handler to run point and make plays and shots. Roy looked like he was alone at times. not anymore tho :) You always want a solid old vet or more with your team, esp. if its all young players.
Having Turkoglu should help.
.. he can help diversify their offense.
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in a certain respect
the $$ does not matter.
A) we have Paul Allen, aka the richest owner in all US pro sports, $16b
even if that was not the case
B) with extensions kicking in for Roy (max) and LMA (been hearing 10-12) for a total of 20-26m next year this is the last window we have to add anyone of quality for essentially free.
Allen has said that he is willing to open the pocketbooks for this team and it looks like he has. In addition it will not be a 10m/year thing but rather it should start @ 8.5 w/ 10% raises which does not sound as bad as 10m/year.
As for the move, I have been sorely on the fence on the move. On one hand, my personal thoughts and research, I do not get why we went after Turk. We already have a clutch perimeter shooter in Roy, and I think we would of been better served to give minutes to our youngsters in Batum, Bayless and Rudy and bringing in a playoff tested vet in Kidd to allow Bayless to learn off of him.
I wouldnt say that we are deep at SF as really only Batum is a true SF. Outlaw is a skinny PF, and Webster is a G/F who I do not think will even be a viable option this year as he was not that good to begin with and on top of it he now has a chronically injured foot. Even if he is able to make it through TC, he will have not played any organized ball for essentially an entire year and with him being in his 5th year his development is probably halted.
OTOH, I can see how having him run P&Rs with Oden, who stylistically is very similar to Howard offensively, could be a good thing as well as the fact that he can play some point forward and backup PF for us as well.
It looks as though KP and Nate have determined that we need to outscore everyone and while on the fence I guess we will just have to wait and see.
Collegiate stats:
NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to
NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to
Well, Portland was #1 in offensive efficiency last season.
If the Blazers can match that again next season (certainly possible), all they need to do is be 15th or better in defensive efficiency and they’re fine. There’s different ways of winning championships.
Sometimes maxing out on one end of the court, while being competent on the other end, is enough.
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Amen brotha
I’m really tired of hearing “defense wins championships”.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Well, it has it claims and it's empirically proven that ..
.. if you finish with the #1 defensive efficiency ranking in the NBA during the regular season, you have a 60% chance of making it to the Finals. That’s a rough figure Neil Paine told me.
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Wonder how many teams have ever made it
Without finishing top 5 in either category.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
You can check at Basketball-Reference.
Just click on each team and look at their rankings ..
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/
Miami was the latest team to not be top five in either category.
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it is done a bit by smoke and mirrors
With Oden and Przy down low, both of them rank top 10 r/min in the league last year and all of our bigs hit the O boards with a vengeance:
Przy came in at 2.5OR/g, Oden came in at 2.8OR/g, and even the much maligned for his rebounding Aldridge came in at 2.9OR/g
OR’s are not counted as another possession in terms of Off Eff, only a continuation of the previous play.
Either way after Turk screwed us, it does not matter anymore. Like I said I am still down with letting Batum, Bayless and Rudy all seeing 20-25+ mpg and letting them develop.
Collegiate stats:
NCAA Arizona:
Jerryd Bayless: 19.7pts, 4.0 asts, 3to
NAIA Wisconsin-Stevens Point
Terry Porter: 19.7pts, 4.3 asts, 2.33to
Sad to see him go but he'll have fun on that Portland team....
My only concern If I was a Portland fan is how smart is McMillan really? I thought they would compete with the Lakers in last year’s WCF but they were really dumb excecuting against Houston in the first round and playing right into there hands.
They have even more potential now but will they fundamentally smart enough? I dont know if Hedo adds that for them.
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Kristin Kreuk is teh love.
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
The Blazers weren't nearly experienced to compete with the L*kers this year
If you asked anyone over at Blazers Edge if they thought they could get HCA in the first round, you’da been laughed at. As for Houston, they were the LAST team we wanted to meet in the first round. Just a bad matchup.
Was probably more worthwhile to lose too
After all, recognizing how hard it is to win is helpful when you’re at where the Blazers are at.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Yeah, the NBA is all about matchups.
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Portland saw the greatness (or lucky shot abilities) of Hedo when he banked in the 3 to beat them last year
by AB's triple double on Jul 3, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
That was a crazy shot ..
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when you annoying me I watch this
by ireallylikejerrydbayless on Jul 3, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions
Hedo rejected the Blazers!
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindblazersbeat/2009/07/hedo_turkoglu_rejects_blazers.html
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
I just saw this!
What the heck..
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on Jul 3, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Toronto
Guess his missus wears the pants after all.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 3, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Does this make an Orlando return at all possible
Or am I just getting my hopes up for nothing?
by Lee for three on Jul 3, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just thinking that
Maybe the Artest Lakers deal has convinced us to go in, feet first and give Hedo more monies. Or maybe Hedo wants a ring more than $10m.
Or maybe he’s signing with the Knicks.
Who knows.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 3, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I have no clue what to make of this
The fact that not too many other places can afford to pay Hedo the type of money Portland was going to give him makes this so puzzling. Would he really turn down$10 mil a year for a guaranteed playoff team for a Toronto or a New York? How much more could they realistically offer him?
by Lee for three on Jul 3, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
To paraphrase from the Simpsons
Apparently he really wanted that extra ivory back-scratcher
by Lee for three on Jul 3, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hedo is going to Toronto and I'm pretty sure his wife had a say in the matter.
It’s no secret that she didn’t want to live in Portland.
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I do wonder why
I’ve been to Toronto. It’s….yeah.
by TheGiantSquid on Jul 4, 2009 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions
*shrugs*
It’s closer to Turkey, it’s more international .. that’s what I’ve been hearing and reading.
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It's five times the size of Portland
Five times the population means five times the shops!
by eltharion_doa on Jul 4, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
More places to get pizza.
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