Orlando Magic GM Otis Smith Discusses Rasheed Wallace, Marcin Gortat, and Hedo Turkoglu with the Orlando Sentinel
Orlando Magic GM Otis Smith speaks to the Orlando Sentinel about free agency. Ordinarily, I'd FanShot this story, but there's so much good information in here that I'll make an exception. Highlights:
The Orlando Magic have contacted Rasheed Wallace's agent and likely will not match the Dallas Mavericks' pending offer sheet for Marcin Gortat and want perhaps one last chance at re-signing Hedo Turkoglu.
Smith disputed reports that Wallace was making a visit to Orlando, although he said "it was possible" a some point.
Smith agreed that Wallace, a veteran 6 feet 11 power forward, would be a nice "fit" alongside center Dwight Howard, but "it just depends on what Rasheed wants to do."
Gortat, according to reports, has committed to sign the Mavs' offer sheet, with Howard's back-up apparently commanding a mid-level contract starting at $5.6 million.
[....]
"Those numbers are a little rich for a back-up center, a guy playing behind my best player (Dwight Howard)," Smith said. "If it's 5 (million), it puts you in a situation (financially) that you don't recover from."
As far as Turkoglu is concerned, he is being given the full-court press by the Trail Blazers and visited Portland on Thursday. Reports say that the Blazers could offer Turk a five-year, $50-million contract. The Toronto Raptors are also said to be in play for Turkoglu, 30, a versatile small forward who played the past five seasons in Orlando.
Smith said the it would be "a long-shot to get something done" with Turkoglu, but added that he had spoken with Lon Babby, Turkoglu's agent, and they agreed to talk before Turkoglu accepted a contract proposal with any team.
Good news on all fronts, I gather. Rasheed would give the Magic some toughness on the front line, and fits Magic President Bob Vander Weide's desire for his team to employ a "cranky" power forward. Marcin is a tremendous player, but simply not worth the financial hit the team would take for keeping him, given how many minutes he'd play. And I know there's virtually no chance of a deal with Turkoglu happening, it's at least a positive that Smith and Babby are on the same page. Former Magic players Keyon Dooling, Maurice Evans, and Darko Milicic expressed dissatisfaction with Smith's handling of their free agency in previous years, so we're seeing some improvement on that front.
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I love Gortat
and I probably wouldve prefered bringing Gortat back OVER Turkoglu, however if we match Dallas’ offer I will be angry. We couldve had Artest for 6 mil (or atleast we couldve offered him a similar deal as LA, who knows if he wouldve been interested), we couldve signed Ariza, we could sign Rasheed Wallace, etc. for the same or similar money.
I understand none of these players may have signed here, but it doesnt seem like we gave much of an effort. And if we’re willing to match Gortats offer me most certainly couldve had Otis Smith waiting at these guys doors at 12:01 like other GMs. I havent criticized Otis in atleast a year and Im not going to now, but if we sign Gortat that tells me we couldve been more aggressive with these other MLEers
im not
worried about not resigning gortat, though i was hoping we might. the full article makes otis sound like he’s playing it cool but to say that “it’s possible” that rasheed will visit makes me weak in the knees.
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
Otis isn't tipping his hand about Wallace.
.. that’s what I gathered from his tone.
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Oh and what happened to Shawn Marion?
I couldve swore he was a FA
apparently he is a FA, even though Ive heard his name nowhere. I have to wonder why Otis Smith isnt heavily pursuing Marion. He shoots 3s, plays great defense and is a very good passer. he can play the 3 or 4, and be a legit 4 unlike Lewis. He would probably come cheap
This.
People need to stop criticizing Rashard Lewis at the power forward spot.
It’s .. getting old.
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Brandon Bass is perfect.
currently there is 2 teams I say we would need adjust our lineup for.. Boston and LA? Everyone else needs to adjust to us..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
Rashard is a great offensive player
No doubt about that. I know Rashard and have watched him more than any of you guys, that’s for sure…even though i’m a die hard lakers fan, I live in Seattle and watched Rashard from the sidelines for 9 years.
However, the truth of the matter is that even though Rashard is a great offensive weapon, he is absolutely horrible in other aspects of the game. Defense, rebounding, hustle/work ethic, etc. I would move Rashard to 3 and get him away from the 4 spot. He is definitely not a 4, and definitely not an all start 4. Remember in the finals —how did you like Rashard playing D against Pau Gasol? Rashard cannot D up Gasol. Rashard’s game is much better against someone like Odom. Not as powerfull as Gasol.
Can you imagine Rashard playing D against other star 4s in the league? Can you imagine Rashard playing against KG? What about Tim Duncan?
I don't have to imagine it
I’ve seen it for two seasons.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 3, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry to say, but you're dead wrong about Rashard Lewis.
He’s not horrible defending, hustling, etc. The numbers indicate otherwise, so it’s easy to say that you’re incredibly off-based with those assertions. He can play the 4, at an All-Star level, no less. Pau Gasol is an incredibly gifted and skilled player. Not many individuals can stop him, that’s not an indictment on Rashard, but a compliment to Pau.
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How would Marion be more legit at the PF than Lewis?
by Lee for three on Jul 3, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
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Marion will be available
If Toronto signs Turk, they will have to get rid of Marion. Also would like to see The Birdman from Denver as a possible backup to DH. Good defender, and great shot-blocker.
Marion and Anderson aren't coming to Orlando.
.. the team can’t afford either player.
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What do you want Otis to say?
Hey .. everyone, we’re offering (insert player here) millions and millions of dollars. What are you going to do about it? No, of course not. Smith likes to play things close to the vest. It’s no different in this situation.
Just because there’s a minimum amount of reports coming out from Orlando doesn’t mean Otis isn’t doing anything. On the contrary.
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Alex Martins said this yesterday--and I should have worked this into the arena tour article--about Otis
“Nothing to report yet, nothing in terms of specific progress, but Otis has been on the phones since free agency started.”
he is
if the raps sign david lee or turk he might become a possibility. i read somewhere that if the raptors signed either of the two they might have to retool their roster.
doesn’t he require big money?
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
Marion probably won't get more than the MLE.
It’s pretty much understood that he was a product of D’Antoni/Nash.
i wasn't that impressed by him
when he was in miami. but i think he would fit in with us better
either way, rasheed is the more important target until something happens.
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
'Sheed is the guy, yes.
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He fits our system..
He can hang out by the 3 point line and slash..
the problem is he got get out and run with nash..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
I wouldn't want Marion shooting threes.
.. he can make him, but that’s not what I’d want him to do.
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***
I meant hang out by spacing, not spotting up and shooting.. His best served driving and knocking down that ugly mid range jumper.
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Word.
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Any chance he settles for
2 years 7-8 Mil?
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thanks for the update.
I guess he still has Value to some.. Does that take Turk out of the running there?> That is team that could use Rip.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
Yeah, Turk is out of the running.
The only chance the Raptors had of signing Turkoglu was letting Shawn Marion go.
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Yeah, too many guys to renounce.
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Looks like Toronto is prepared to renounce 'em all.
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So to Portland he goes?
Oden
Aldridge
Turk
Roy
Blake-even though I like Bayless
that is a big lineup, Solid though..
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I would expect Nate to tweak the offense to fit Hedo's skills.
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Sources: Turkoglu, Blazers agree
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4304805
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
Who gets the final shot in a game!?!?
Roy or Turk tougher to defend..
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I would disagree, partly, with that statement.
I say partly because some of it is true. I think what people are completely overlooking is the fact that Marion thrived playing power forward. Once he was moved to more conventional lineups and switched to small forward, his production took a dive because his strengths weren’t being utilized properly.
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Between Ariza, Artest, Turk and Marion
Marion was expected to command the least. Probably the MLE, and possibly a little less. Being out of Phoenix has hurt him badly. He thrived in that system. He was a lock for top 3 in any fantasy draft for a few years, and I’d be surprised to see him go in the top 20 next year.
his 3%
has not been particularly good since 2003
sure we let rafer alston take a bunch of 3’s last season but i certainly wouldn’t want that to be his way of contributing on offense
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
Marion is better served slashing the basket, etc.
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I'd be happy with Rasheed...
…and a SF. Not sure why we’re not focusing more on the question of a backup SF — the question of who’s backing up Pietrus is way more important than the question of who’s backing up Howard.
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
But J-Rich is ready to produce.
You just wait; he will finally grow into those gangly limbs of his and become a basketball god.
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He's kidding.
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When it comes to the basketball skills of one Jeremy Montgomery Richardson . . .
I’m always dead serious.
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Nah, I'm just kidding.
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Wow, between your Grant Hill drum & my McDyess trumpet
We should really start a band!
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on Jul 3, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah.
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If Rasheed goes to Orlando
Lotsa talk about Rasheed to San Antonio, Boston and Cleveland.
However, Rasheed to Orlando gives Orlando the mismatch they lost when Hedo left the team. Obviously, the Magic were not the same team with an injured Jameer Nelson.
If the Magic can stay healthy.. ie Jameer return to his previous form the Magic will be better minus Hedo Turkoglu. However, if the Magic get Rasheed Wallace? They regain the mismatch they once had with Hedo and improve once again.
Orlando is…
slightly worse minus Hedo and the gain of Vince
worse minus Gortat, Lee and Battie
slightly better with Dwight Howard refining his skills
better with a healthy Jameer Nelson
and better if they gain Rasheed Wallace
Ben Dizon
Rasheed won't go to Cleveland. He's indicated he has no interest there.
.. San Antonio and Boston will the main competitors for Wallace’s services.
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How about the Birdman?
Can play the C., Rebounds, Primo Shot Blocker, Banger. Can we afford him?
The Surfdog
Probably wants to stay in Denver (the friend who helped him overcome drug addiction lives there) but could be had for the right price, I think
Problem with him is he’s not a great defender. Blocks shots, sure, but in terms of defensive skill/IQ? Not so great. And he’s in his 30s, so those block totals will start to dwindle along with his (remarkable) athleticism.
I like Rasheed...
What are the chances of getting one of the Celtics big men leaving, or that old guy that killed us with 3’s: Eddie House off the bench as a sub for the two guards would be cool to me…
Eddie House is remaining with Boston.
Powe may be a possibility, but he’s out until the All-Star break.
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hmmm
too bad, he’s a loose cannon, but I like House’s resurgence… Powe would be too little too late… I was thinking one of their active ERFA’s… I guess they aren’t letting them go! I hope Sheed, or McDyess… Bass I know little about, but is intriguing!
Turk to Toronto
‘Cause his wif wants it that way. Marion will be on the market if that’s the case. Sheed would be a good fit, but as a backup for DH. Birdman would be too. You still don’t replace Turks value in the pick and roll with any of those. Can Lewis take that mismatch over?
So can Jameer Nelson
I really wish we’d have waited it out on these free agents instead of dealing for Carter right away. I am not sure that was for the best. Right now I would really like to grab Shawn Marion and we could have got him for cheaper than Turk and he fills our rebounding needs, perimeter defense and can score when needed and shoot the 3. Perfect fit for our team and what we’re doing. Not to mention hes lightning quick on the break. We would still have Lee also so our perimeter defense would have jumped by leaps and bounds and our rebounding would have been that much better. Did you see the year when Marion played PF for the Suns when Amare went down? He avgd like 12 boards a game and still averages 8 or 9 per game. Oh well we’re stuck with what we got.
Marion is on the decline.
His defense is average, at best .. the team wouldn’t be able to afford him. Pass.
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Ehh...
How good is Marion at shooting the three these days? I mean, he’s career 33% shooter, hasn’t shot above 35% since 2002/3 and is down around 21% (admitedly on low volumes) in the past three seasons.
I’m not convinced.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 4, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions

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