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What They're Saying About Matt Barnes' Arrival To The Orlando Magic

  • Magic, Barnes reach two-year deal
    Josh Robbins shares this nugget that is sure to intrigue a number of Magic fans.

    Aaron Goodwin, the agent who represents both Barnes and All-Star Magic center Dwight Howard, confirmed the deal early Tuesday morning in a text message to the Orlando Sentinel.

    "He has agreed to a two-year deal, and I believe that Dwight's recruitment of him truly sealed the deal," Goodwin wrote.
  • Magic to sign Barnes, bolster bench
    Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports  clues in on Matt Barnes' contract. 

    In an aggressive summer of spending, the Orlando Magic have agreed with Matt Barnes on a two-year, $3.2 million contract, a league source said Monday night.

    Barnes, 29, gives Orlando a versatile forward on its reshaped bench. He leaves the Phoenix Suns, where he averaged 10 points and 5.5 rebounds a season ago. The deal includes a player option of $1.6 million in 2010-11, the source said. Barnes will sign the agreement on Tuesday.

    It's clear that general manager Otis Smith has exhausted the remainder of the mid-level exception to get a deal done with the UCLA alum. 

  • Report out of California: C.J. Watson wants a 3 year deal, will sign Magic offer sheet
    Tania Ganguli explains the parameters behind C.J. Watson's possible arrival to Orlando and what's left to be done behind the scenes. 

    The Oakland (Calif.) Tribune reached someone in Warriors point guard C.J. Watson's camp today and a source close to the negotiations told that paper Watson will sign the Magic's offer sheet. Apparently they spent all Monday trying to work out a deal.

    Some other points of interest from the story:

    - Watson turned down a one-year, $2.3 million deal from the Philadelphia 76ers

    - He is hoping for a 3-year deal

    - The Warriors, as a cost-cutting move, want 14 players instead of the maximum 15 on their roster.

    Both this report and other reports on Watson indicate that Warriors general manager Larry Riley likes him. The problem is, they already have two point guards ahead of him in the lineup -- Monta Ellis and dynamic rookie Stephen Curry, who the Warriors took seventh overall in last month's draft -- and a third (Acie Law) he'd have to fight with to even be the third-string point guard.
  • More on the Magic
    Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus chimes on what the arrival of Barnes and (maybe) Watson means for the Magic heading into the regular season.

    In particular, the Magic looks like it could be getting a bargain should the Warriors decline to match the offer to Watson, a restricted free agent. Flush with lead guards after dealing for Speedy Claxton and Acie Law and drafting Stephen Curry, Golden State may well let Watson walk despite the very reasonable offer.

    To the extent I argued that the Magic’s moves weakened the team on the perimeter, that concern would be rectified with the additions of Barnes and Watson. Orlando would be as deep as any team in the league, with an entire 12-player active roster that could reasonably be counted on for rotation minutes. The only real argument you can make at this point is that the Magic would have been better off choosing talent over depth and consolidating that money on re-signing Hedo Turkoglu. Otherwise, it’s a lot of money to spend, but none of it unwisely and not in a way that really limits Orlando’s flexibility.

    The other upside of signing Barnes is it makes it less likely that Rashard Lewis plays extensively at small forward. My contention that the Magic is much better with Lewis at the four has been the source of much debate amongst Orlando fans, but ultimately there’s some objective evidence here. Per 82games.com, Orlando outscored opponents by 9.8 points per 100 possessions with Lewis at power forward. When he moved to the three (which was, granted, just 3 percent of the team’s total minutes), that net efficiency margin dropped to 8.1 points per 100 possessions. As you might expect, the Magic defended better with Lewis alongside a true power forward, but Orlando’s Offensive Rating dropped off by 9.3 points per 100 possessions when he played small forward. I stand by the notion that the Magic is a much more dangerous, and a much better, team with Lewis spacing the floor at power forward.
  • Despite reports, Magic still searching for a backup point guard, haven't settled on C.J. Watson
    UPDATE: Doesn't appear C.J. will be joining the team, after all.

    Those reports began Friday on Fanhouse.com and yesterday the Oakland Tribune and San Jose Mercury News checked in with reports that Watson, after spending Monday negotiating, planned to sign an offer sheet from the Magic.

    I'm leery of saying the phrase "expect the Magic to sign players for the minimum" ever again because they seem to be on a shopping spree this offseason.

    But if you think about this numerically, some pundits guessed Watson would make at least a couple million per year with his new contract. If he was hoping to cash in on what's left of the Magic's mid-level exception, provided the deal with Matt Barnes doesn't fall through, that's spoken for.

    Now it appears the Magic are going in a different direction.
  • If/when there is a news conference for Matt Barnes' introduction to the team, Ben Q. Rock and I will be there amongst the media to cover the proceedings. 

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by hwyatt3 on Jul 21, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Well now

I can quit arguing the keep Shard at the 4, as we now have a SF to make that feasible to all the fans. Pietrus can come off the bench and cover SF and SG and Reddick’s role has been drastically reduced, happy people?

by Eric9321 on Jul 21, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

this is so awesome.

But why is everyone on this site constantly hating on Reddick? I’m not his biggest fan, but it’s just a little weird to me considering he seems to be a fan favorite everytime he gets in the game. I thought he had a decent year.

Either way- this site is awesome. I’m so glad I found it.

by hoyamagic on Jul 21, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's a love/hate relationship with Redick. Not sure why.

Maybe it stems back from his time at Duke University.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I'm happy knowing that we go into the season with JJ not being our only backup at the SG position!

With these two moves pretty much wrapping up the offseason moves (minus a few players at the league minimum to round out the roster), my main concerns move to Jameer Nelson, with his health, confidence and rythym returning to pre-injury 2008/09 form, and Dwight Howard and his improved free throw shooting and post game.

Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, Batman, and The Michael Jordan of Turkey...

Welcome Back Polish Hammer and Welcome Vinsanity, Ryan Anderson, and Brandon Bass!!

by malars on Jul 21, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. I agree malars, but i think both will happen i.e. Nelson is healthy for playoffs and we see improvements in Dwights game.

by derekk on Jul 21, 2009 1:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jameer should be fine, though I can see why there's cause to be cautious.

.. and Dwight, you have to figure all these moves will further motivate him in the off-season.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy!

I’m simply in awe of what a great job Otis is doing.

by MoveThoseChains on Jul 21, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this give the Magic the deepest bench in the league?

To go along with the best starting five in the league?

by RussL on Jul 21, 2009 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I mean seriously...

Gortat, Barnes, Watson, Bass, Anderson, Reddick, AJ (unless you go w/ Carter running the offense at times)

Good lord.

Some of these guys are absolutely going to get lost in the shuffle. How do you play 11 guys?

Not to jump the gun or anything, but this really makes me think they’ll make a mid-season trade once they figure out who the rotation guys. Probably Gortat packaged w/ someone once he becomes eligible for trades, to upgrade another position in the lineup.

by RussL on Jul 21, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the regular season is a grind so it's not out of the ordinary to play 11 guys.

That being said, usually SVG prefers to play 9-10 man rotations during the year .. and even then, the players that aren’t playing could see time. Injuries happen, so it never hurts to have options.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why trade Gortat midseason?

We should keep Gortat because last I checked there wasn’t ANY young talented big men availible. How many PGs went first round this year? 4 went to the T-wolves alone. How many centers after Thabeet? 1,2 maybe. We have an amazing ability to not downgrade when D12 needs to breathe on the bench. This is why Cuban tried to get Gortat and Otis and Devos paid double to keep him. And having D12 and Gortat also allows us to lineup against any “bruiser” team out ther, esp. w/ Bass and 3 shooters as far as the eye can see. No I doubt we will trade him unless it is after the season when we are done polishing the trophy up. And only if Otis is getting a undeniable offer for him. (and last I checked the big man pool is shrinking, see Yao Ming)

by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Jul 22, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt Orlando will trade him this season ..

.. but eventually, Gortat will be moved.

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by erivera7 on Jul 22, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

pre-draft 2010?

If he has another year like last year, he’ll be in demand. I wonder if we’ll be able to trade for a vet and a higher draft pick. I know it’s too far off, but just thinking.

I think he could be a key piece to keep for this year, too.

by magicfaninTN on Jul 22, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

So

now the Magic have Matt Barnes, Adonle Foyle, CJ Watson, Mickeal Pietrus and 1998 draft pick Vince Carter

Ladies and Gentlemen your Sunshine State Warriors

by rtgunn on Jul 21, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, C.J. Watson isn't with the team.

.. and probably won’t be joining, after all.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we can land CJ we will be able to go full speed for the full 48, SVG just has to get the best out of the bench,there’s going to be lots of guys wanting minutes.Nice problem to have though.So glad we dont have to go into another season with a bench like Garity, Augustine,Lue,Cook,Wilks

by D-RAK on Jul 21, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

and hopefully balanced playing time

from the coach. I hope we don’t see the super-high minutes for the starters this year from SVG. We ought to be deep enough to win games and rest our players for the post-season. I’m not talking leaving too much in the tank, I’m talking about making sure VC and RL (and Meer for that matter) have legs and are injury-free come playoff time.

by magicfaninTN on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think SVG will do what's best for the team.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

most definitely

"Dwight Howard couldn't score 40 points in a game if he was going against Yi Jianlian's chair." Bill Simmons chat 5/20

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by L Magico on Jul 21, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: Pelton's analysis

I know Pelton is a bigger stat geek than I, but shouldn’t part of the points per possession drop when moving Shard to the 3 be attributed to the fact that when we had Shard at the 3 it meant Hedo went to the bench and Battie or Gortat or some other combo of the 2nd squad was playing? And defense went up with Shard at the 3.

He’s reaching for negatives (3% of playing time?)—which is fair in any breakdown—, but at least he admits when he’s reaching.

btw, I’m not suggesting Shard should play the 3 or the 4 (I trust SVG), just poking at the analysis.

by magicfaninTN on Jul 21, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

should be

And [as Pelton himself acknowledges, the drop in scoring is somewhat balanced by the fact that] defense went up with Shard at the 3. …….

by magicfaninTN on Jul 21, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, KP is reaching so that every stone is uncovered.

That’s key when you’re making a statistical analysis on whatever it is.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm, just two quibbles

1) The offseason so far has been an either sign Hedo or add depth affair. In fact we still have the cap space from the void that trading Hedo left, a la the ~7mil TPE. Basically I’m not sure you can say that the Magic made a “choice” between" the moves they’ve made or resigning Hedo.

2) It may be true that the Magic perform much better with Lewis at the 4, however at this point our depth in the front court is far greater than last year, perhaps changing the quality of play when we turn to other Power Forwards and move Lewis to the 3. In fact this is what I believe we will find to be the case.

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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 21, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

*has NOT been an either sign Hedo or add depth affair

Is what I meant to say

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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 21, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

things are different this year. i dont know what to expect out of the rotations but i do expect to win games. this offseason has rocked my socks

Nah' mean, nah'm sayin

by Dr Things on Jul 21, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still hope we play Lewis at the 3

but now that we have Barnes it looks like we can play him at the 4 without any problems… aside from minimalizing Gortat/Bass/Anderson

Something I don’t want to do since we may be looking to trade one of these guys

by Souwantmyname on Jul 21, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

To me, there was never a choice to begin with.

It would be have been foolish to re-sign Hedo Turkoglu to a long-term deal and I’m sure Otis knows that. So instead, the team opts to add depth/youth to help transition the eventual declines of Carter, Lewis, etc.

If this doesn’t indicate to everyone that Lewis is intended to remain at the 4, then I don’t know what to say.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also like our future

We have a few young pieces (Anderson, Bass, Gortat) locked up for long term, and we have 2 short term pieces that will open up the books a bit in Carter and Barnes after 2 years which will give us flexibility to revamp before Howard’s contract is up.

by Eric9321 on Jul 21, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know what he offered.

.. it was an offer he knew Turkoglu wouldn’t take from the get-go.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Otis offered that much?

Where’d you get that number? I thought it was a 4 year 8mil per year deal.

by Eric9321 on Jul 21, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say that was what Otis offered.

.. I’m just saying I had an idea of what he did offer.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I’m impressed by Otis big time. Any weakness that was brought up last season (depth, playoff experience, etc.) has been dramatically changed into a strength. I’m really shocked how much overall talent we have right now. Trust in Otis indeed…

PG-Nelson,Watson,AJ
SG-Carter,Reddick
SF-Pietrus,Barnes
PF-Rashard,Bass
C-Dwight,Gortat

I’ll take us over anybody! Go Magic!

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by L Magico on Jul 21, 2009 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

My lineup

PG- Nelson,Watson, AJ
SG- Carter,Pietrus
SF- Lewis, Barnes, Pietrus
PF- Bass, Anderson, Gortat
C- Howard, Gortat, Bass

This would be my regular season lineup. Pietrus gets his minutes at SG but are still limited since Barnes can handle the load at SF. Then whatever PF looks the best a the end of the year gets the nod in the playoffs. I think during the year we should mess with different lineups to see how they play against real competition

by Souwantmyname on Jul 21, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. I’m worried about both not being official yet but Barnes is a nearly 100% sure thing IMO.

by derekk on Jul 21, 2009 2:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not anymore.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Orlando Sentinel

Is reporting that the Watson deal is off. That a deal was never imminent, apparently Watson wants to make some money instead minimum salary.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_magic/2009/07/source-magic-still-searching-for-a-backup-point-guard-havent-settled-on-cj-watson-.html

by Eric9321 on Jul 21, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Well then

the Barnes pickup is still good but I really liked Watson tho. But I was wondering how we could offer a contract to 2 players with only 1.8 million left.

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by L Magico on Jul 21, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Russell Robinson still make a lot of sense.

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by Wmillion on Jul 21, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, a sign-and-trade was always a possibility.

But it doesn’t appear Otis wants to go through that trouble.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I added that to the post.

Confusing and conflicting reports about C.J. Watson .. that’s the media, for you.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

OSen is reporting they think the deal is off. Agreed it doesn’t look good, but still sounds of speculation rather than reporting to me…..

still hoping, but not naively.

by magicfaninTN on Jul 21, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

even if the deal is off Otis11 will figure something out

by D-RAK on Jul 21, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO, alrdy said Barnes is better overall and a bigger need. I still wish we could get CJ, he really is a good PG.

by derekk on Jul 21, 2009 2:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Yeah Barnes first

Then maybe a sign and trade with GS is possible to get Watson. I know we have no pieces, but I will not doubt Otis this offseason now, I just can’t.

by Eric9321 on Jul 21, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have JJ's 2.8 million dollar contract as trade bait

that sounds like something… plus we still have Hedo’s trade exception

It’s not over yet we can still make some moves

by Souwantmyname on Jul 21, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now you were the one

talking about how horrible JJ is, what team is going to take him unless they are shedding salary? Which means we would have to add salary which is unlikely.

by Eric9321 on Jul 21, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were not adding salary if we trade JJ for Watson

Watson is probably gonna ear a 2-3 million dollar contract for 3 years

Also GS has a ton of PG’s and you know how much they love shooters who don’t play defense

by Souwantmyname on Jul 21, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Back to the fun

of pointing out how much you loathe JJ, so why would GS trade a young athletic PG for a unathletic SG? :)

by Eric9321 on Jul 21, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are the other PG

Alternatives?

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by Wmillion on Jul 21, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russell Robinson.

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by erivera7 on Jul 21, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO, This move was as big as getting Bass for this season. And the real lineup:

PG- Nelson, AJ, ??
SG- Carter*, Pietrus, JJ
SF- Barnes*, Pietrus*, Lewis
PF- Lewis, Bass, Anderson
C- Dwight, Gortat, Bass

*Carter is SG on D, but plays the Hedo’s SF role on O. Barnes or Pietrus will start. Pietrus is better though, and if he doesn’t start he will still get heavy minutes being the primary backup to spots 2 and 3, playing possibly the majority of min.s at 3. When in, Pietrus also guards the biggest offensive threat between opposing 2’s, 3’s always.
The starters will see a nice drop in min.s for thier energy level and health, in particular Lewis. Bass will take Batties role of coming in for Lewis and dominate it, getting to play it more consistently and longer than Bass. Hence, Lewis may be seeing alot of SF duty if it’s working out great with Bass at 4 alot and in match-ups. If Gortat is traded, for say a PG later on, Bass gets backup C min.s on top, where he has proven to be good at in Dallas.
Who’s happy: Barnes, Bass, Pietrus. All playing good minutes. We need Pietrus’ D, Bass ain’t starting but he’ll be playing alot to be satisfied.
Who’s not: Anderson, Gortat. Gortat is a C period. Anderson will see situational minutes but more than we think.

What if Bass is incredible with Dwight. By that I mean with each other AND the whole team on both sides of floor? Doubt it, Lewis at 4 got Magic to Finals and almost all the way (imagine Nelson healthy for playoffs, Dwight improving!, with VC and MP). But what if, then we see a dramatically different lineup. This is better used situationally once again.

by derekk on Jul 21, 2009 3:29 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

perfect depth chart, assuming lewis starts

i agree with the whole post. continue to like pietrus off the bench. bury jj as the 3rd SG. keep gortat only at 5, so that bass and anderson see decent mins at the 4. i don’t see bass getting many mins at the 5 with gortat there. broken into mins groups, i think it looks like this:

31-36: Howard, Lewis, VC, Jameer (stars)
18-28: Pietrus, Bass, Barnes (heavy rotation players)
8-15: Gortat, AJ, Anderson (light rotation players)
5 or less: JJ, 3rd string PG (only play real mins in cases of injury, blowout, or foul trouble)

by pinthatd12 on Jul 21, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thx Pin, your minutes allocation looks about right with it too.

by derekk on Jul 21, 2009 11:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Limit

I would like to see VC and Shard play less minutes then normal. Save them for the offs.

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by Wmillion on Jul 22, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't do that. The team needs to position itself with playoff seedings, etc.

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by erivera7 on Jul 22, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Positioning

Yeah if we win the east then we can let Boston and Cleveland decide which one gets to play against us for the conf. crown. and we would get the likes of Chicago.

by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Jul 23, 2009 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

he’s a cheap high energy combo guard who can hit the 3 , and he’s in the last year of his deal, NJ has like 5 SG’s 3 PG’s who knows they could do worse.

by D-RAK on Jul 21, 2009 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Was just kidding

Dooling was a nice role player, although I say his defense was over rated by the lack of defense Jameer was able to provide, especially back then. But he wouldn’t be worth the money on his contract. For that we could have kept Alston.

by Eric9321 on Jul 21, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

erivera7 got it right

Russell Robinson i like this guys up side. plays good d. can score, pass the ball. good size. played awsome in orl. summer leauge. otis gm of the year

by magicman775 on Jul 21, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

why not Brian Chase?

what makes Robinson a superior pick? Chase, though 5’10" has NBA experience, better shooter, comparable assists. Has RR improved his shooting since that was a knock against him coming out of Kansas? IIRC, in the summer league write ups you weren’t too high on his shooting/scoring for most of the games.

Chase too old? Hoping RR will develop? Is it better to have your bench PG on this team a little better at scoring or a little better at distributing? Does it hurt if he can’t consistently hit the 3? Based on the fan response to the possibility of CJ Watson it would seem we were okay to get a scoring PG. I’d say Chase is closer to CJ in style than RR is.

But you saw them both play, so what d’ya think?

by magicfaninTN on Jul 21, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good points tho

by derekk on Jul 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

But I bet he has a kick-ass jersey collection.

by The Magic made Lebron run off the court on Jul 23, 2009 6:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Hah.

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