UPDATE: Marcin Gortat Signs Offer Sheet with Dallas Mavericks; Orlando Magic Unlikely to Match
They say everything's bigger in Texas. Things are about to get bigger in the Dallas area, as the Mavericks have tendered Orlando Magic free-agent center Marcin Gortat an offer sheet for the mid-level exception. Gortat is a restricted free agent, which gives the Magic the right to match any offer he receives in order to retain his services. However, Magic GM Otis Smith has said throughout this offseason that he would not match an offer to Gortat if it were more than $5 million. The mid-level is valued at just over that amount, meaning Gortat's days in Orlando are at an end unless Smith changes his stance.
UPDATE (this paragraph only): I goofed. This is what happens to people if they put too much stock into Smith's public comments. Monday, he said he wouldn't match anything over $5 million. However, Tim Povtak reports that Smith said, "At this point, we're matching everything that comes back to us," as recently as Wednesday. Steve Kyler of HOOPSWORLD also hears that the Magic will match the offer, which he believes "may be a huge mistake." What it comes down to is this: is Marcin Gortat worth up to $11 million a year? An annual salary in the $5.5 million range is more than fair for his services, but the matching luxury tax payment would severely limit the Magic's options as they try to fill-out the rest of their roster. Orlando will exceed the tax threshold no matter what it does, so it seems more wise for it to try to split its mid-level on two players in order to get a better value.
UPDATE 2 (this paragraph only): Today, Smith tells the Orlando Sentinel he won't match the offer.
Gortat, 25, played 2 seasons in Orlando, but was only a regular rotation player last year. He averaged 3.8 points and 4.5 rebounds in just 12.6 minutes per game backing up Dwight Howard, the Magic's All-Star center.
Gortat gives the Mavericks a solid backup to the veteran starter Erick Dampier, 33, whose contract runs for two more seasons.
We've expected that Gortat would go to Texas, but not to Dallas. When the free-agent negotiating period opened at 12:01 AM Wednesday, Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey met with Gortat at the center's Orlando home. It's likely he also offered Gortat a mid-level deal. Ultimately, Gortat found Dallas' situation more appealing than Houston's, inking the offer sheet with the Mavericks instead.
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This has not been a good day for Magic Fans . . .
But MUCH thanks go out to Gortat for being such a great backup and awesome person while on the Magic!
Spread your wings Polish Hammer. We wish you the best (except against us of course!).
I will truly miss the Polish Hammer :’(
by blue-blood on Jul 2, 2009 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He'll be missed, for sure.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scary Scary Truth: Will Orlando get better?
They shall change the same way Boston has changed. Ie… they shall LOSE depth… but of the few players they have they shall get SLIGHTLY better despite losing their mismatch advantage of Hedo Turkoglu.
Hence, they need a pair of players of players a wing and a big man or simply obtain Sheed and McDyess…
by SimpleTruth on Jul 4, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give it time.
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by erivera7 on Jul 4, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that sucks.
Better than Houston for him I guess, but I thought he wanted to start some place. Oh well.
by Vindibudd on Jul 2, 2009 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he compared the two situations and felt he had a better chance of eventually starting in Dallas.
.. and I wouldn’t disagree with him. Gortat doesn’t have as much competition with the Mavericks.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Dampier vs. Dwight.
HE may not start right away but by mid-year he’ll work his way in there.
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by Surfdog on Jul 6, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so
this means a sign and trade for bass is impossible and we’d to have to use our MLE to sign bass. which means we lost out on an opportunity to sign bass and retain our MLE to fill out the rest of the roster.
i sure hope otis smith has a plan..
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
by Dr Things on Jul 2, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hard to do a sign-and-trade with two players when they both are FAs
From Mike Fisher of DallasBasketball.com:
Dallas’ chances of pulling off a Sign-and-Trade seem a difficult fit. If it weren’t for obstacles like the CBA and BYC, a Brandon Bass-for-Gortat flip would be easy. But there are those obstacles, so, no, it doesn’t work that way. But inasmuch as Orlando wants Bass (they contacted him today) and the Mavs want Gortat, we’ve got The 75-Member Staff working on some creative ideas. …
Link.
by Ben Q Rock on Jul 2, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A sign-and-trade won't work.
That seems to be the popular solution to everything. “Sign-and-trade!!!” .. it’s not that easy.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gortat makes so much sense for Dallas that it's almost too logical to be true.
by Ben Q Rock on Jul 2, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
He should start, he allows them to run too..
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by Wmillion on Jul 2, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wish The Polish Hammer the best. He will produce.
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by Surfdog on Jul 3, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he'll start right away .. he may, but ..
.. he only has to worry about Dampier. That’s it.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOOPSWORLD says Dallas will try to trade Dampier ($12.1 M expiring)
Assuming they don’t get a center in return, Gortat would start alongside Nowitzki, Kidd, and whichever superstar they acquire for Dampier’s deal.
Pretty easy to see the appeal.
by Ben Q Rock on Jul 3, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not surprised .. pointless to start Dampier when you have a better/cheaper option in Gortat.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So...when do the Magic get involved in the FA Market? Most of the big names have either already committed to or are being courted heavily by another team.
I hope Otis knows what he’s doing…
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jul 2, 2009 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
true
It is evident the Magic are unwilling to spend the cash to get the big name. Hopefully we can duct tape a bench and it works.
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by Wmillion on Jul 3, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get the duct tape out lol. classic.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on Jul 3, 2009 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HEDO
Surprised he hasn’t agreed to a contract some where..
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by Wmillion on Jul 3, 2009 12:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Still waiting to hear Toronto's pitch, I believe
by Ben Q Rock on Jul 3, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool thanks for the update..
Toronto has some talent up there.
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by Wmillion on Jul 3, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heard he had an offer around 60mil.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on Jul 3, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow seriously?
If that’s true, that’s way overpriced. Orlando fans should be cheering the VC trade even more.
by Worthy J. on Jul 3, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did you catch the number of years?
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by Wmillion on Jul 3, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a report I heard that Hedo's wife prefers Toronto over Portland.
.. not sure if that’ll have any bearing on Turkoglu’s destination, but it may.
Duncan’s GF didn’t like Orlando back in the day. That had a little bearing on Timmy staying.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe we're essentially blowing up a roster that was 3 games away from a championship.
Rafer, no matter how dumb at times, was a great guy while here.
Battie was a loyal servant while he was here.
C-Lee was a one-season legend.
Turk has taken our team to a new level these past few years.
Gortat has been awesome, both on and off the court.
I feel sad.
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by big aaron on Jul 3, 2009 3:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Although...
Rafer———>Jameer (essentially)
Battie———>Anderson
Turk———→Vince Carter
We got better on all three occasions.
If we can do something like:
Gortat———>Mcdyess or Ike Diogu
CLee————>Kleiza or Barnes or G Hill
I’d be ecstatic.
by TragicMatt on Jul 3, 2009 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We couldn't afford to keep it together
Realistically, it was always going to happen.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 3, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando had to adjust .. can't sit and be complacent while other teams are getting better.
The Vince Carter trade was an excellent, given what the deal accomplished. It’s best that deal went down, because the Magic just couldn’t commit a long-term deal to Hedo Turkgolu. That would have been killer.
.. give Otis Smith time. He has plenty of options in free agency.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Add Von Wafer to the list of players I'd like to sign as well.
He is cheap. Shoots the three well, and is barely starting to scratch at his full potential, considering 3/4 of his total career games were played last year.
by TragicMatt on Jul 3, 2009 3:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd expect Houston to want him back
There’s so little offensive production on that roster right now.
by Ben R on Jul 3, 2009 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Von Wafer really?? His first, second, and third intincts are to shoot the ball. I've watched the rockets playoff games this year and that dude is not a big fan of passing the ball
I’ll take JJ any day over that dude. At least he keeps the offense moving
by AB's triple double on Jul 3, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wafer is a better player.
.. but you make a valid point here and there.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great fit. Dallas is my team out west so this is bitter sweet
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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 3, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Word on the street is we are matching
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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 3, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL .. what word is that? Otis isn't matching that contract.
It would be unwise to pay Gortat the full MLE just to back-up Howard.
That’s not smart economics.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOO 11 million a year for Gortat?
REALLLLLLY???!?!? We weren’t willing to go 5.5 million on ‘Sheed, but we’re going to go 11 million for Gortat? Has Otis lost it?!??!
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jul 3, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
11 mill would be the total including the luxury tax we'd be paying, so basically half of that is is salary, the other half the tax
Still not sure why he’d want to pay Gortat that over sheed
by AB's triple double on Jul 3, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I understand but giving him that money, plus filling out the roster
will guarantee going into the tax, I don’t understand why he wants Marcin over Sheed either.
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jul 3, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would feel good
about keeping gortat around. it seems like everyone feels that having a good back up center isn’t an issue because we have dwight. but dwight gets into foul trouble often and when that happened this past season i didn’t ever have to worry because marcin is white dwight. if we match gortats offer and sign matt barnes or someone equally capable, i think our roster would be pretty well balanced.
gortat is an asset. if dwight can expand his post game to the point where the two can play on the floor together without destroying our offense, good things would happen
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
by Dr Things on Jul 3, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone's denying that Gortat is a valuable player. What's at issue is the finances of keeping him around.
by Ben Q Rock on Jul 3, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could go down as one of Otis' worst moves as GM
…if true
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jul 3, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be hard to top drafting Vasquez
by AB's triple double on Jul 3, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but at least he didn't get paid
We could potentially pay 5.5 million plus dipping into luxury tax for a serviceable back up center averaging 10mpg next year.
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jul 3, 2009 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even close to being a bad move. More a no brainer than anything
Seriously, even signed he is a trade asset. Also, he is one of the more productive men per min in the league, if a pairing works next to Dwight (early results are positive), than that is the carnation of a Twin Towers look you will likely see.
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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 3, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i havent heard
gortat being underrated on this site. what i have noticed throughout the week is that a lot of people don’t think we need a highly productive center to back up dwight.
money is an issue.
but we talk about how important it is to have rashard at the 4 in an effort to play our game (anderson is going to be great for us). our game is also anchored by a true center (something in very short commodity). to have someone with a much different skill set sub for dwight also completely alters our game. gortat and anderson could allow us to continue the 1in/4out offense even when we rest lewis and howard because of their similar skill sets.
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
by Dr Things on Jul 3, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not worth keeping Gortat around, not at that price.
The Magic are better served going after Wallace because he has the ability to play alongside Dwight Howard with much more effectiveness. It’s not about completely altering “our game”, it’s about finding the best fit for the team. The best fit for the team is Rasheed Wallace ..
.. given his skill-set. When Howard is out of the game, Wallace can slide the 5 and really create problems on offense because he can either post-up or shoot from the perimeter. The beauty of the latter part is that Lewis can post-up now. Everyone (including myself) wants to see more of that. That could theoretically happen with Rashard and Rasheed on the court, together.
Think about it.
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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
Jameer, VC, Pietrus, Lewis, Howard
Jameer, VC, Pietrus, Lewis, Wallace
Jameer, VC, Pietrus, Wallace, Howard
Jameer, VC, Lewis, Wallace, Howard
I like all of these lineups. Even our second line looks good:
AJ, JJ, Kleiza??, Anderson, Wallace.
Oooo-weeee. This team would be something to be scared of.
by TragicMatt on Jul 3, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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