And That's The Way It Was......
July 17,2009 (aged 92)
I know it’s long but it’s a good read. (Almost all of it is copy and paste, so your not just reading the ramblings of a crazy man). Here is a great list that I dug up in the Motown Sports Revival: It has the ratings of the three guys that a few of us have been discussing concerning the determining factors for a players greatness. It also includes two players associated with the Magic. I start off with my favorite player growing up just so you know my measuring stick. I was not a Jordan fan. I’m not a Kobe fan, just so you know where I’m at. I like Wade but mostly because of Charles Barkley. I do like Lebron a lot and I think he will be top 10 when it’s all said and done. I did, however, lose a little respect for him after we knocked his “kings crown” off of his head…he showed himself to be a poor sport. I’m sure that will change with maturity as will the sophomoric mistakes that Kobe made early in his career and Dwight has made thus far, you know what I’m talking about. Without further adieu.
3) Magic Johnson
Magic’s greatness can be quantified by citing a lot of statistics. But, I think the single most compelling evidence of his greatness is that there hasn’t been a player since who has been able to do the things he did. He was a 6’8 point guard who could run the break, drive to the hole, rebound and post-up. His excellence produced five NBA Championships and three MVPs. He accomplished all of that despite the fact that his career ended at 31 years of age. One can only imagine what he could have done with five-to-ten more years added to his career. Magic holds a slight edge over Shaq in a number of categories. He holds a 5-4 Championship advantage, a 9-8 All-NBA First Team advantage, a 9-8 advantage in top-5 MVP finishes, and a 3-1 MVP advantage (although both won three Finals MVPs). Magic is 6th on the all-time Wins Shares Above Average-list. Shaq is 7th. Plus, as a 6’8 point guard, Magic is one of the few players in NBA history who can claim a size advantage relative to his position on par with Shaq’s.
11) Kobe Bryant
Where Kobe winds up on this list remains to be seen. He could end up in the top five or stay right where he is at. It all depends on whether he can bring the Lakers back to Championship-glory without Shaq. As it stands now, Bryant’s career has been spectacular. Although, there is no question that his career was greatly enhanced by Shaq’s presence. Together they won three-straight NBA Championships. Apart, Shaq has a title and Kobe does not. Kobe’s stellar combination of offensive and defensive brilliance is rarely seen in the NBA. In fact, the only guard that I can recall that played both sides as well is Michael Jordan. Kobe finally has an MVP under his belt which will help his profile. He needs to start piling up the individual hardware if he is going to make a move into the top ten. A few Finals MVPs wouldn’t hurt. Jordan has six. Kobe has zero.
21) LeBron James
LeBron James is the closest thing to Magic Johnson that the league has seen since Magic retired. Unlike most "pie in the sky" comparisons, I actually think LeBron will end up being better than Magic. In fact, I think LeBron has the potential to end up being the best player the league has ever seen. He is physically dominant at the ripe age of 23. At 6’9, LeBron can do everything Magic could do and more. He is bigger and stronger than Magic already. Barring a career-ending injury, LeBron will dominate the NBA like few have ever seen.
49) Patrick Ewing
Ewing is one of those stars who had the misfortune of playing at the same time as Michael Jordan. I remember some of his dominating performances in the playoffs against the Pistons. He was one of the top two centers in the NBA in the late 80’s/early 90’s but he was never able to lead his team to a championship or win an MVP.
50) Dwyane Wade
Even though Wade is considered by most to be one of the best players in the NBA, I think he is vastly underrated. He gets to the rim better than any player I have ever seen and that’s saying something. Any coach who doesn’t give Wade the ball every possession over the last five minutes in a close game should be fired. When Wade takes the ball to the rim late in a game, he will either makeit or get fouled. If he can stay healthy, Wade’s individual numbers will skyrocket without Shaq. He is as physically gifted as any player in the league.
81). Vince Carter
Carter has the dubious distinction of being one of those players who never wins anything. Dominique Wilkins, Charles Barkley, and Tracy McGrady are other members of that club. To be fair, Carter has never been on a great team. If you put him on the 80s Lakers, there’s no doubt he would’ve won as many championships as James Worthy. Carter should take a hit for not being able to lead a team to serious contention but he should also be appropriately acknowledged for being a great player. Carter is 20th on the all-time list for PPG at 23.8. He takes a lot of shots but his shooting percentages aren’t that bad. He is a 45% shooter from the field and a 38% shooter from beyond the arc. Carter’s all-around game is certainly more evolved than someone like Reggie Miller. Carter has career averages of 5.5 rebounds and 4.2 assists per game to go along with a steal and a block. Carter’s career has been marred by injuries and untapped potential. Still, he is one of the most athletic players to ever play the game and is one of the top scorers the league has ever seen.
And that's the way it was. In honor of Walter Cronkite, the best anchorman ever. I you didn't have the distinct pleasure of inviting him into your home every night for the day's events.....you really missed out.
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magic johnson was the man
never had more fun watching anyone play than magic. poetry, positivity and enthusiasm in motion. when that SI article quasi-criticized dwight for having too much fun on the court, and saying that this is arguably inconsistent with winning, i immediately thought of magic. i don’t think anyone had more fun on the court than magic, and, umm, he managed to win a few games in his career. when you have smiles like magic and dwight do, it would flat-out unpatriotic to suppress them.
by pinthatd12 on Jul 19, 2009 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey pinthat......
thanks for sharing my love for the original magic……oh, and thanks for being the only person to read my post………… =)
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles"....
by hwyatt3 on Jul 19, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw. Does he still have AIDS?
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards,Rays and "the U"! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jul 23, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jul 23, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he has HIV not AIDS
And I think he’s actually curtailed the symptoms of it by staying healthy and in shape even after retirement. That and if you believe the cynics, he paid for the best friggin medicine known and not known in the medical field…
"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest
Kristin Kreuk is teh love.
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Aug 13, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol… it was a good post. it should get some traffic tomorrow when the week starts!
and no need to thank me re the original magic. it was an honor and a privilege to watch that man play ball.
by pinthatd12 on Jul 19, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm a big Magic Johnson fan.
.. he’s one of my favorite players in the NBA.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jul 20, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The original MJ
For me, anyway. Jordan and Jackson can do one.
by eltharion_doa on Jul 21, 2009 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like the author
the author of that list has it very close. he rated shaq as #5 all time. also he said that kobe would end up close to the top with more rings. at the time he wrote that kobe had 3 and now he has 4. garnett was moved up from charles barkley range just because he won a ring. also it is tough to rank VC just because he has never been pass the second round.
by plyka on Jul 19, 2009 8:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
hopefully that will change this year..........
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles"....
by hwyatt3 on Jul 19, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs


















