The Orlando Magic Have Options: Potential Lineups for Next Season
Last month, the Orlando Magic advanced to the NBA Finals for the first time in 14 years, and for the second time in the team's 20-year history. They mustered just one win against the Los Angeles Lakers, but that was one more win than was expected. In fact, one could argue it was 7 more wins than expected, since almost everyone counted them out after they squandered a 14-point lead to the Boston Celtics in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals.
In spite of all that, the Magic have turned over quite a bit of their roster. Rafer Alston, Hedo Turkoglu, and Courtney Lee--three starters for most of the stretch run and the playoffs--are gone. So, too, is rotation power forward Tony Battie. Local and national media have questioned the wisdom of almost gutting a team that came up a scant 3 wins shy of a championship.
What isn't getting enough attention--or wasn't up until yesterday, when Kelly Dwyer of Yahoo! Sports addressed the subject--is the fact that each of the Magic's new players somehow improves on the one whose role he figures to take. Additionally, they're better equipped to handle stronger, more physical front lines, thanks to the signing of free-agent wrecking ball power forward Brandon Bass.
The key point is flexibility. Last season, the Magic's top-ranked defense carried them all the way to the NBA Finals. It was their offense that held them back at times--and by "at times," we mean after Jameer Nelson tore the labrum in his right shoulder, thus forcing the less efficient Alston and Anthony Johnson to carry the point guard load for the second half of the season. But with Carter, Bass, and Ryan Anderson in the fold, and with a healthy Nelson, this team can seriously challenge to lead the league in both defense efficiency and offensive efficiency.
It's still early in the summer, and the team still has some moves to make. But with 10 players under contract, it's fair enough to start looking at some specific lineups and the flexibility they provide.
Starters/Finishers:
| PG | SG | SF | PF | C |
|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() Jameer Nelson | ![]() Vince Carter | ![]() Mickael Pietrus | ![]() Rashard Lewis | ![]() Dwight Howard |
No surprises here. Offensively, this team will resemble the Magic's best five from last year, with Pietrus taking Lee's place and with Carter subbing for Turkoglu. Lethal three-point shooting at point guard, shooting guard, and power forward, with competent three-point shooting at small forward. One-in, four-out, making room for Howard inside. And I contend that Carter's enough of an upgrade over Turkoglu that this lineup will be even more effective than last year's first five, even when accounting for the drop-off in three-point shooting from Lee to Pietrus.
Tall Ball A:
| PG | SG | SF | PF | C |
|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() Jameer Nelson | ![]() Vince Carter | ![]() Rashard Lewis | ![]() Brandon Bass | ![]() Dwight Howard |
On the surface, replacing a 6'07" player with another 6'07" player does not qualify as getting "bigger." But in practice, Bass beefs up the Magic's lineup with his toughness, interior defense, and ability to hit the mid-range jumper.
The Magic relied on Battie for those sorts of things last year. As we noted on Saturday, Bass is one of the league's best jump-shooting bigs, and he's also an above-average post defender in spite of his size.
Rashard Lewis hasn't played small forward extensively in coach Stan Van Gundy's offensive and defensive schemes. I imagine hanging around the perimeter on defense will be easier on his legs, perhaps keeping him fresher for late in the season. But I still fully expect him to spend most of his time at power forward.
Tall Ball B:
| PG | SG | SF | PF | C |
|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() Anthony Johnson | ![]() J.J. Redick | ![]() Rashard Lewis | ![]() Brandon Bass | ![]() Marcin Gortat |
Maybe this lineup spells disaster. After all, neither Bass nor Gortat is a three-point threat, and neither is particularly adept at creating his own shot. This lineup isn't geared toward them, though. With Gortat stationed on the week side and Bass camped out on one of the elbows, Lewis can go to work in the post--most likely the left block, where he posts-up 86% of the time. The Magic's offense doesn't suffer too badly running through Lewis in the post as opposed to Howard. He's a creative scorer in that area, and has developed into a savvy passer out of double-teams. Gortat and Bass are free to crash the offensive boards for garbage points. And if either Bass or Gortat catch their defenders napping, they can make a quick cut to the basket. If Lewis finds one on the cut, there's an excellent chance a score will result. Gortat shot 78% on basket cuts last season, with Bass clocking in at 72%.
Johnson and Redick are listed here only because we've listed the starting backcourt in every other lineup so far. For variety's sake, in other words.
Tall Ball C:
| PG | SG | SF | PF | C |
|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() Jameer Nelson | ![]() Vince Carter | ![]() Rashard Lewis | ![]() Marcin Gortat | ![]() Dwight Howard |
Here's a lineup to which Magic fans will pay plenty of attention. Because of Gortat's offensive limitations as a power forward, he and Howard rarely shared the floor last season, and we've already gone fairly in-depth as to what happens to the offense when they do. Assuming Gortat ever develops a reliable jumper, this lineup could be one of the Magic's most potent. As it is, it might be the preferred lineup for some stretches against the league's more physical teams, like Boston and the Lakers, because Gortat and Howard don't take any B.S.
Sure, Bass doesn't take any either. The biggest difference is that Gortat is a much stronger rebounder than Bass, even if he doesn't "bang around" as often.
Bombs Away! A:
| PG | SG | SF | PF | C |
|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() Jameer Nelson | ![]() Vince Carter | ![]() Rashard Lewis | ![]() Ryan Anderson | ![]() Dwight Howard |
Finally, a lineup that makes use of Anderson. It's a bit unfair to label him a specialist, considering the versatility he displayed during last week's Orlando Pro Summer League. But in the NBA, when he'll be the 5th option instead of the 1st, well, he's going to be a shooter. This lineup keeps the 4-out, 1-in offense Van Gundy prefers. Think of Anderson as this year's Brian Cook--in terms of his role, not his skill level--a guy upon whom Stan can call when he needs a few quick three-pointers. As a plus, Stan can roll with this lineup for a bit longer than he would were it to include Cook, because Anderson isn't a total defensive zero, and because he's in-shape.
Bombs Away! B:
| PG | SG | SF | PF | C |
|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() Jameer Nelson | ![]() J.J. Redick | ![]() Rashard Lewis | ![]() Ryan Anderson | ![]() Dwight Howard |
No list of three-point-shooting lineups would be complete without one which included Redick. Let's just assume Carter's getting a breather in this scenario.
Bombs Away! C:
| PG | SG | SF | PF | C |
|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() Jameer Nelson | ![]() Vince Carter | ![]() Mickael Pietrus | ![]() Ryan Anderson | ![]() Dwight Howard |
Well, Rashard Lewis has to rest sometime, as he's appeared in every lineup so far.
Bombs Away! D:
| PG | SG | SF | PF | C |
|---|---|---|---|---|
![]() Vince Carter | ![]() Mickael Pietrus | ![]() Rashard Lewis | ![]() Ryan Anderson | ![]() Dwight Howard |
Now this lineup is hardly viable for long stretches at a time, since it asks Carter to chase opposing point guards around. But, were either of the point guards injured or in foul trouble, Carter could run the show. Anderson would have to be in the game, as pairing Howard with any other big would shut down Carter's driving lanes, which he would need in order to set up Lewis or Pietrus beyond the arc.
These are only a sampling of some lineups Van Gundy can use, and I'm confident that they're all at least moderately more effective than their equivalents last year. Improving the 11th-ranked offense will go a long way toward securing another trip to the NBA Finals, and possibly the team's first championship, even if the top-ranked defense slips somewhat.
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I think the picture links aren't quite right
They’re showing above the title for the next lineup
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I honestly don't think so
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Don't you think that kind of versatility
can lead to instability? I don’t expect to see all of those much, but one thing that was proved to us in the Finals was that being inconsistent can really throw off our rhythm.
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I don't buy that argument.
The Magic didn’t lose in the Finals due to instability or any of that tom foolery.
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by erivera7 on Jul 17, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for the use of the word tomfoolery.
by Lee for three on Jul 17, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah. Thanks.
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I don't think so, no
The Magic are well equipped to play several different styles. Whether or not that versatility will lead to a championship remains to be seen.
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I would argue the Spurs...
But I might be a bit biased. However, the biggest difference being that the Spurs’ frontcourt bigs of Mahinmi, Haislip, and Blair aren’t entirely proven yet.
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Will any of them crack the rotation?
They’re behind Duncan, McDyess, and Bonner…
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ugh, again?
Is there another team that has this kind of versatility or EVEN CLOSE —are you serious? Oh wait, you already answered that question. What’s more is that the people who responded agreed with you. I understand that everyone thinks their team is the best (especially in the off-season) —i’m sure somewhere on a Clippers blog there is a poster who is saying: “seriously guys, does anyone have a better shot than us to surprise next year and win the championship?” And i’m sure that there are 4 other posters who write next and say: “no way man, we are in it for sure,” and “surprise clipper championship!!!” etc. Still i’m shocked when people say that no other line-up is EVEN CLOSE, lol.
Let’s start with the 2 major teams, one in the east and one in the west. Lakers and Celtics.
Celtics have:
KG
Sheed
Allen
Pierce
Rondo
Perkins
BB Davis
Am i forgetting anyone? Sheed and KG are both 7 feet tall and can shoot from ANYWHERE on the court. KG is the most talented and skilled big man in the GAME. This is from a Lakers fan who hates KG. And i would actually put Pau/KG in the same group as skilled big men. Sheed is old, but still more skilled than any big man on your team. These two will be rebounding AND defending on the inside and they are taller than anyone on your team (maybe Gortat is the same size). Then you have Perkins who is very good defensive player, rebounds and is tough as they come. Another monster in the middle. How is a player like Bass at 6’6" going to play with these 3? That leaves Howard and Gortat. Neither of which have much offense to speak of.
On the outside you have Rondo, a very up and coming PG who i would rather have than Jameer. A PG who almost AVERAGED a triple-double (ridiculous) during the playoffs. Next come Allen/Pierce. These two vs Rashard/VC. I live in Seattle so i saw Rashard play with Ray Allen almost twice per week. Allen was by far the 1st option in that mix. Perhaps time has given the advantage to Rashard? Regarding Pierce and VC, you gotta give it to Pierce.
I mean, regardless of what you want to call it, versatility is not on your side. Your bigs, Howard/Gortat have no offense to speak of unless you call Howards elbowing people out of the way offense. No one is versatile here. And instead of Hedo you now have VC. Hedo was versatile, VC is typical shooting guard. Basically, versatile is not the proper word. Your bigs cannot score more than 10-15 feet from the basket. Your “finesse” players like Rashard/VC/Jameer play finesse. Rashard is the only “versatile” individual on your entire team in my book.
And from a purely talent comparison, the Celtics are the better team. I’ve decided not to go into the lakers because I’m biased as a lakers fan and this is already very long.
I disagree with you on a couple of points here
First – Howard and Gortat don’t exactly have Hakeem’s post moves. Nobody’s saying that. But if they’re such offensive zeroes, how’d they both manage to shoot 57% this season? They aren’t refined low-post scorers, but that didn’t stop them from being among the league’s more efficient big men. And Howard did that while leading his team in scoring, winning the Defensive Player of the Year award, and winning the rebounding title.
I also disagree with you regarding Boston’s versatility. Garnett can’t tee-off from just anywhere. He maxes out at around 19 feet. Wallace has more range and is an effective low-post scorer, I’ll say that much. But Boston will play a very similar style no matter who’s on the floor. Subbing Wallace for Perkins adds a three-point shooter, but neither Garnett or Rondo are three-point threats, leaving Allen and Pierce to do the heavy lifting in that regard.
Regarding Hedo/Vince. – You say Vince is a typical shooting guard, but I don’t see many shooting guards scoring, rebounding, passing, and shooting the way he does. In the last 3 seasons, only Carter (last year) and Pierce (in 06/07) posted 20/5/4 on 38% three-point shooting. Turkoglu is versatile relative to his height, and he’s played deep into the postseason in each of the last 2 years while Carter and the Nets have gone fishing. That’s one reason why some people are a bit… mistaken… regarding the skill level of both players.
It’s not that individual players have to be versatile—you say Lewis is the only multi-tool player, which means the Magic aren’t a versatile team. But that’s not what’s important. The way in which the certain players fit together gives the team some different looks, and flexibility that other teams might struggle to match. Orlando can continue playing its preferred 4-out/1-in lineup, as it has for each of the last 2 seasons. But Bass and Gortat enable to the team to get much bigger and more physical than in years past, while Anderson’s presence can shift Lewis to small forward and allow the Magic to play 4-out/1-in even when they go to their bench.
4-out/1-in will help the Magic against teams like Cleveland, while the beefed-up front line will go a long way toward fending off the Celtics (who are themselves, at times, vulnerable to the Magic’s three-point shooting) and the Lakers. Few, if any, other teams boast the bevy of three-point shooters and effective big men that Orlando does.
If nothing else, it’s good to have options.
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by Evan Dunlap on Jul 18, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
the celtics' names sound good on paper
but that’s an old-ass team, with a core of kg, sheed, allen and pierce. i mean, i’ve seen footage of some of those dudes getting two-handed set-shot on by george mikan.
kg is most certainly not the most talented and skilled big man in the game. that distinction, hands down, goes to tim duncan. most intense big man in the game? yes. more talented and skilled than the big fundamental? oh, hellz no.
anyway, more importantly, the BEST big man in the game today is Mr. D12. he’s not the most skilled, but he is the most athletic and dominant and is the best all-around big. and it’s not close. the keys if the magic find themselves playing the c’s in the playoffs will be (i) are the old-ass celtics healthy and (ii) has dwight developed the will yet, as clearly the best player on that court, to put the team on his back and to utterly refuse to lose?
Can't say "it's not even close" ..
.. Gasol is a damn good player, and others.
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yeah, "not even close" may be a bit strong
“not even debatable” would have been more accurate. there are some guys (you named one, and KG, TD and Bosh are probably others) who are at least in black magic’s stratum.
Yes, indeed.
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I get where you're going,but the fact is
That C’s are the team to beat on the East. They have a pretty good shot at it for a season,maybe two,and that’s it. They are 100 pct in win-now mode.
We still need another viable wing if Lewis is to play a lot of time at the 4 next year
Why are you so confident about this?
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
Because it's been explicitly stated to us by a source that the team intends to play Lewis at the 4.
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Although Bass and Gortat have since been added to teh PF/C rotation...
Things done changed.
Not really.
We spoke to this person when the Bass signing was imminent but before Gortat’s return. Marcin coming back has no effect on where Rashard Lewis starts, so he’s irrelevant to the conversation.
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What does that mean? What did the source say exactly?
I find it odd that at this point in the summer, the coaching staff would be set at Rashard being strictly a power forward. He’s way too versatile for that to be the case it would seem.
He stated that the team's intention is to start Lewis at the 4.
.. because, quite simply, it works and if it works, keep doing it.
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There's a better chance of J.J. Redick starting at the 2 with Carter at the 3 and Pietrus off the bench
… than there is of Lewis starting at the 3, at all.
This is according to a well-informed source familiar with the team’s plans.
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Well now
That is interesting. Thanks for sharing. Redick has surely improved his game, both in ball moment, defense, and with his general IQ. That would mean that the team considers Redick and Pietrus to be the major role players this year, looking like this:
Major Cogs : Pietrus/ Redick
Rotation: Bass/ Gortat/ C.J. Watson*/ 2cd Wing
Reserve: Anderson/ Johnson
Playing Bass less and Redick more seems to be a counter-intuitive decision though and does not seem to play to our new found strengths.
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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 17, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Bass will play less .. he'll see enough minutes.
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I'm struggling to conceptualize this
If we find another wing than it seems like we’ll have Pietrus starting with *2cd wing backing him up. If we don’t find another rotation worthy wing than Carter moves to the 3 with JJ backing him up.
Having Lewis start at the 4 squeezes the minutes that Bass will see, not to mention Anderson. Anyway, I’m sure it will all work out but at this point moving Lewis to the 3 seems to be the intuitive choice, especially considering pay grade. Bass, Pietrus, and Gortat are our next highest paid players, which would seem to necessitate them getting the most minutes out of our rotation. Not Redick or some random wing we sign off the street.
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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 17, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction: I mean Carter moves to the 3 with JJ starting at the 2, not backing him up
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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 17, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really what I'd do in the lineup...
But I guess SVG likes those PF mismatches.
Matt Barnes still on the radar?
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Is this only hyperbole to make a point about Lewis at the 3?
Or any chance of really seeing Jameer-JJ-Vince-Shard-Dwight?
While I doubt JJ would start due to the politics of egos in the locker room…and I think SVG knows better in this regard, I’ve wondered if JJ’s shooting touch/consistency might be helped by coming in warm at the beginning of the game rather than cold off the bench later on. Is this a factor between his % at Duke versus with Orlando?
(And, yes, I floated this on the Sentinel website if it seems familiar, but the level of discourse seems a lot more educated on this board…..all I got at the OS was “JJ sux”…and maybe I’ll get that here, too?)
by magicfaninTN on Jul 18, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think there's a chance, whatever it may be, that Redick could start.
I doubt it happens but it’s not completely outside the realm of possibility, either.
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I think Redick is the last man off the bench
Shooting guard is locked down once and for all. Vince Carter will be to the 2 what Rashard has been to the 4 the last two years. There just aren’t available minutes when you have players of that caliber on the team - certainly come playoff time.
Not hyperbole. It could happen, but the chances are slim.
Nelson/Carter/Pietrus/Lewis/Howard will almost assuredly be the opening-night starters.
Almost.
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That lineup makes sense only on the condition that Otis adds another wing
Otherwise Stan would really have to stick his head in a whole not to see where his strengths are with the current personnel.
Facts are they did not bring in Bass to play only 20 mins a night, nor did they trade for Anderson to see him rot on the bench. Not to mention that they are not paying Gortat to simply fill the same role as last year.
Lewis will be moved to the 3 if no other wings are signed. Otis has said that Lewis is a natural Small Forward in the franchise’s eyes.
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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 18, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but he also said that the Magic still plan on playing him at the 4.
Whether or not he means Rashard will start there is up for debate.
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True true
One thing is for sure, I’m sure the team has system specific metrics that can evaluate talent fit far more accurately than we have on the free net, so whatever decision they make I’ll rest assured that they are making the most informed choice.
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by Eyriq the Red on Jul 19, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can confidently say the team will make an educated choice.
I’m not too concerned about how the lineup will look when the season begins.
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Tall Ball B doesn't work...
…Too many bigs down low (Lewis would need to play post but there are spacing problems), not enough offensive creators.
Otherwise, the lineups look good.
by gift of the magi on Jul 17, 2009 3:46 PM EDT reply actions
That doesn't make sense.
Lewis can spread the floor, ditto with Anderson. Gortat would man the paint, offensively.
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Um, it makes plenty of sense
Gortat won’t draw enough doubles, so Lewis isn’t consistently free outside. You can post Lewis on the post (which is how BQR suggests how this offense would be run— see above), but then Lewis, Bass, and Gortat are falling on top of each other. What doesn’t make much sense is Tall Ball B.
That said, there are plenty of lineups that would work.
by gift of the magi on Jul 17, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I read what Ben said and I'm giving another example of what else can happen, offensively.
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Bombs Away Lineup Edit
How about sliding Vince over the PG?
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One More Guy
More convinced than ever they need one more guy, namely Matt Barnes. With these lineups Pietrus is playing way too much at the three, Barnes could start short minutes and keep Pietrus in 6th man role he excels at.
Great Post.
I enjoyed reading it.. I wil retweet it, too..
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Starting Lineups...
I love the flexiblity.. We can force teams to match-up with us and we can also adjust to match-up with other teams. I think we can make every other team adjust to us except Boston in the East and LA, SA in the West.. And if KG is less then 100%, they will have to adjust to us also.
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I don't think the starting lineup will change based on the opponent
It’s not like baseball, when teams adjust their batting order based on the opposing pitcher. I fully expect Nelson/Carter/Pietrus/Lewis/Howard to start every game as long as they’re all healthy. What could change from game-to-game is the immediate rotation. Is Brandon Bass the first big off the bench, or is it Ryan Anderson? Things like that.
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by Evan Dunlap on Jul 17, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
That is what I am saying
Certain players will play more minutes depending on matchups. Against San antonio u will probably have to play gortat more. 90% of teams will change there primary rotation.
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by Wmillion on Jul 17, 2009 11:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's how I see it.
SVG is pretty staunch about keeping the same starting lineup, but mixing up the rotation.
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It really boils down to Rashard Lewis
Do we like our mismatches with Rashard more at the 4 or more at the 3. Whatever the case Sweet Lew is going to dictate what we do and what teams do
I couldn't agree more
Having the ability to create a mismatch with Rashard on any night is a huge upgrade over last year.
I was really excited about seeing Lewis at the 3
But it looks like he’ll probably spend most of his time, still at the 4. Either way, this team defines the phrase " pick your poison ".
I think most out there are seriously underestimating Vince Carter. I remember many games this season Turk shot 1-12; 2-13, etc.
by constantine307ad on Jul 18, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
You're right.
Although,VC will have his off nights,too. Oh,and welcome to 3QC.
Since you’re new,I’ll ask something of you:could you please stop mentioning Hedo?
/internal joke
Vince had 11 games last season shooting under 33% from the floor. The oversized point guard whose name is not to be mentioned had 16. It’s a wee bit less common from VC.
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I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
"Oversized poinnt guard whose name is not to be mentioned..."
Genius. Simply genius. LMAO
Nice.
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