Taking A Look At Marcin Gortat's Value
Now that a few days have passed since general manager Otis Smith decided to match Marcin Gortat's offer sheet from the Dallas Mavericks, I wanted to touch on a topic that was going to be a point of contention for the Poland native, at some point, regardless of if he were to play with the Mavs or the Orlando Magic. The issue?
His contract, worth $34 million over 5 seasons.
Is Gortat worth that type of money, despite the fact he's only had one full NBA season under his belt? Dallas thought so. Likewise with Orlando. The former franchise is known to have an analytics department, while the latter franchise has individuals behind the scenes working with numbers, too. What does that all mean? These are two front offices that are smart and have seemingly concluded that Gortat is a player of value. Taking a look at some of the numbers, one can begin to see why this is so.
Before I begin, I want to note that a.) I'm going to examine Gortat's value in a vacuum, meaning his issue of playing time will be irrelevant in this analysis and b.) I'm keeping things brief so I don't repeat things about him I've covered already.
The average fan will look at Gortat's per game numbers last season - 3.8 PPG, 4.5 RPG, & 0.8 BPG - and wonder, what is the big deal with this guy? Why were so many teams coveting Gortat in free agency? The following numbers will answer that.
| per 36 statistics |
| PPG (10.9) |
| RPG (13.0) |
| BPG (2.4) |
| FG% 57.2% |
Think those per minute numbers are a fluke? Perhaps one should take a look at Gortat's performances against the Golden State Warriors, the Milwaukee Bucks, and the Philadelphia 76ers (in the playoffs). It's clear that when Gortat gets minutes, he produces. The sample size of data appears to be large enough to make that assertion. Even in the games Gortat hasn't started in, he's had outings where's he's notched double-doubles in roughly 20+ minutes.
| Marcin Gortat | Dwight Howard | |
| total rebounding percentage | 20.3% | 21.8% |
| block percentage | 4.8% | 5.9% |
| true-shooting percentage | 58.3% | 60.0% |
| effective field-goal percentage | 57.5% | 57.2% |
Gortat's block percentage and rebound percentage are eerily similar to Dwight Howard's. That's impressive, when you consider the fact Howard is widely touted as an elite rebounder and shot blocker. The numbers appear to fall in line when one looks back at Gortat's performances this past year (another example, he blocked LeBron James twice in Game 3 of the Eastern Conference Finals). Gortat is an efficient player on offense, too, as I discussed in-depth a few weeks back. He may not be polished or talented as Howard offensively, but his efficiency is very comparable.
| Marcin Gortat | |
| adj. defensive plus/minus | +1.70 |
| opponent PER vs. C's | 16.4 |
| net defensive plus/minus | +1.4 |
| eFG% allowed | 46.7% |
As for Gortat's defense, he's above-average (for more analysis, click here). I will quickly note that Gortat's respective plus/minus numbers aren't spiffy, but that's mainly because he's playing behind Howard - the Defensive Player of the Year. As a result, Gortat's stats won't look sexy on paper but rest assured, he's a capable defender.
A while back, I stated that Gortat's Value Rating % was excellent when looking at his production relative to his contract. The always reliable Jon Nichols of Basketball-Statistics was kind enough to update Gortat's VR % with his new contract, while keeping his statistical production the same from last year as a reference point.
| Marcin Gortat | 68.90% | 5,840,000 |
Not surprising that Gortat's VR % drops, but the decrease in the number isn't steep. It's still a good percentage, assuming Gortat matched his stats from the prior season in the upcoming season (which shouldn't be too difficult of him to do). When looking at the numbers, it's evident that Gortat netted a contract comparable to his value.
The issue of Gortat being overpaid doesn't carry much weight when looking at his statistical production. Even if Gortat nets the same amount of playing time and puts up the same numbers this year as last year, it doesn't appear he's overpriced. To reference the previous statement, let's compare Gortat's VR % with his new contract for this year to Tony Battie's VR % for last year, who had a contract similar in amount.
| Tony Battie | 34.45% | 5,746,000 |
| Marcin Gortat | 68.90% | 5,840,000 |
Despite the similarity in monetary value, Gortat's statistical production with his new contract is superior to Battie's, and as a result, his VR % is much better. The consensus this past season was that Battie was an overpaid player and the data surely backed up that claim. However, the same argument can't be said for Gortat.
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Gortat has played 20+ minutes in 16 career games (counting the playoffs)
His averages in those games: 8.6 points, 9.1 rebounds, and 1.5 blks on 51% shooting.
Those numbers are (roughly) in line with what Kendrick Perkins produced last season.
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I think Gortat is worth the money as a player, in a vacuum
However NBA is not a vacuum, and you have to put playing time into the equation. Put a great player like Gortat in a team that only uses him 12 minutes on average, the contract becomes expensive.
I mean, Grant Hill was worthy of every penny of his max contract at the time when Magic signed him, but it’s indisputable that the contract turned out to be a bad one because he never got to play.
However, I still love having Gortat back. Taking $$ out of the view, Gortat is the best young big that’s available out there, if not the best big period. And we got him. Yay!
Even if Gortat simply matches his stats from last year, his contract is still reasonable.
That’s the point I trying to make multiple times while I was writing this post up.
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Excellent analysis
I’ll add that I would expect Gortat to actually outperform his per 36 numbers as, like all motivated young players, his game should improve with increased PT, no? Or maybe increased PT puts him against 1st string opponents more and the difference nets out, I don’t know.
by Half-man Half-gortat on Jul 16, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
Thanks.
I think Marcin would match his per minute numbers. Not sure he would exceed ’em.
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Some very good points...
…In particular, I was intrigued by your note that Gortat’s contract is of reasonable value even if he merely duplicates his numbers from last year. (I suspect, however, that Jon Nichols did not factor the luxury tax penalty of Gortat’s contract into his analysis. Were Gortat’s effective contract size used, his value rating probably would be poor.)
The challenge with Gortat is his small sample size. He’s been very efficient in limited minutes and also efficient when he plays greater minutes, but he’s only played for one season and two playoffs. And unlike many U.S. players coming out of college or even European players playing overseas, his pre-NBA statistics are not a useful guide, because his previous performance was only so-so.
All that said, I’m glad that Otis resigned him. This move, like the Carter acquisition, is fairly risky, but hopefully it will pay off.
by gift of the magi on Jul 16, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think Gortat should be penalized in that matter. If that's the case, Bass would be another culprit.
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I assume you're referring to my luxury tax point, not my small sample size point...
…It’s fine if you don’t want to penalize Gortat or Bass by considering the effect of the luxury tax on their contract size, but DeVos is paying much more, and their value is much less, as a result. Ultimately, it’s Devos’s money, and I don’t mind him opening his wallet. But we should recognize how much he’s paying for relatively little (albeit highly efficient) production.
by gift of the magi on Jul 16, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
And I'd add one more note.
I still think this move could make sense because Gortat may be a tradable asset starting in December. It’s not obvious that he will be tradable, because the Mavs were the highest bidder for Gortat, we’re paying him that same amount, and we can’t trade him to the Mavs for a year. But I’m hopeful. In the meantime, I’ll happily enjoy Gortat’s 10-15 minutes of efficient, overpaid production.
by gift of the magi on Jul 16, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I should have written "expensive" rather than "overpaid"
Last post on this topic.
by gift of the magi on Jul 16, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
In the end, it's worth it.
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great job
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards,Rays and "the U"! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jul 16, 2009 7:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Appreciate it.
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Will the "Dwight Effect" come into play with Gortat in at C too?
When subbing in for Dwight, will Gortat cause the same amount of pressure on the opposing team’s offense as Dwight when Gortat is in the lane? I’m more inclined to believe that because his opponents didn’t game plan around him last yr, he was able to disrupt much easier than he will this year. But I’m pullin for ’Tat
On a side note, here are some new nicknames for Gortat: ScoreTat and BoardTat
I think teams will respect Gortat more but I don't think that's going to affect his production.
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i agree....
you can’t really game plan for hustle and determination…….much of what he does has more to do with heart than any skill set he may have……..
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles"....
is it feasible
to have gortat playing 20 mpg divided between center and power forward next season given our roster?
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
Certainly.
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Gortat....
…played 9% of the teams total min. at PF last year and 10% of the teams total min. at C last year…
…last year he played PF with batman at the C spot……albeit less frequently but more minutes per outing…..the team numbers were about the same when he is at either spot but at PF his personal stats plummet……. so unless he develops a jump shot over the summer……he and dwight will cancel each other out when they are on the floor together………..they would be a very imposing defense for other teams but they both cant grab the same rebounds……which by the way….they both do best….
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles"....
What do you mean?
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He's a Mavericks fan, so I'm guessing he meant letting Gortat go.
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Noted.
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I doubt Gortat is overpaid...
Gortat himself is well worth the money, however, my concern is with the role he plays on the team, which can be serviceably for significantly cheaper. While Otis talks of having the center spot shored up for the next 5 years, the gears in my trade speculating mind are already starting to turn. I see Otis moving Gortat in a trade deadline move. Possible Jameer insurance if he gets hurt again?
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I doubt Gortat is moved this season.
.. too many obstacles, though it’s still possible.
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He is the Magic's top trade asset, that's for sure.
My feeling is the Magic might actively shop him next summer, but they’re not really looking to move him right now. That doesn’t come from anyone inside the team, or anything, but just a gut feeling on my part.
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by Evan Dunlap on Jul 17, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
They couldn't get full value for him this year anyway
due to the base year issue.
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Correct.
BYC would be an issue.
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