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Perfect timing. Return of PR sensation Carlos Arroyo?

Yes, there is a love and hate relationship when it comes to Magic fans and former point guard Carlos Arroyo. You either love or hate him usually. You either see his inconsistencies and spotty defense only, or you see his good shooting style, good offense and crisp PG play that had challenged Nelson and Dooling's PG play at times and had been rewarded at times with a starter spot from as recent as 2 seasons ago and earlier. You might be a Puerto Rican fanatic, or you might be annoyed by the crazy latina fans at games. So what has he done since then? I know only a basic story. 

Carlos Arroyo left before the beginning of last season to play overseas for the Israeli Maccabi Tel Aviv team. Arroyo started off great and a few PR fans couldnt help but leave his statlines on Magic boards as a sort of "this is what you missed out on Magic" statement. Yes, what would Carlos Arroyo be if he didn't have a disagreement with the coach, which has happened with former Magic coach Brian Hill in the past- but not with SVG, or as far as I can tell for there was none or was handled very professionally, and after missing some play time, came back in mutual reconciliatory feelings to lead the team to winning the championship while having a stellar season and winning the MVP award. Arroyo is 29, 30 yrs old and is right smack dab in the middle of his prime right now. 

Earlier in the week, a PR online news article stated Arroyo was returning to the NBA FA market, and already has a mystery team heavily interested in him. He is being bought out of the Israeli team to return to the NBA.  

http://www.primerahora.com/diario/noticia/baloncesto/accion_deportiva/cerca_carlos_arroyo_de_volver_a_la_nba/315838

In fact, Arroyo said he was close to signing with a team and that he didn't want to give any more details about it until it was official later in the summer. He is going to Las Vegas to meet with a team. Now, there are 21 out of 30 teams in the Las Vegas Summer League, but every team is actually at the event for atleast scouting and talking. Orlando Magic's scouts are there, and so is GM Smith, and some FO people I would guess. So there is every reason to believe it could just as easily be the Magic as any other team at Las Vegas. The article goes on to talk about what teams it thinks might be logical or good fits for Arroyo. That about sums up the article, besides some news on the PR's national basketball team and some of it's activities this summer.

So who is this mystery team that's close to signing him? And what are some reasons that it could potentially be the Magic? 

Now, this is perfect timing. Arroyo has been a starter, a fan favorite, a championship winner, the MVP winner, and even had to go through some tough issues with his coach before apologizing and coming back to favor, all in one season. Arroyo has had quite a crazy but also very fulfilling season. He is in his prime right now, but at 29, 30 there's not exactly any more hidden upside and he knows it and has no problem with it. He knows he is talking about the backup PG spots with his suitors, or his one close mystery team and he's ready for it. This is not a situation where Arroyo expects to start anymore, and if he is in the Magic's targets list, this would be painfully obvious with Jameer Nelson's stellar play the last 2 seasons and especially this past season, where Nelson was extended by the Magic for the starters job and achieved an All Star status. There's no misconceptions here, Arroyo knows his role, he is a backup PG permanently here if he were to join again. He is at a age where he is also nearing the declining stages too, so his maturity is culminating at an all time high. He would love to add a NBA championship to his achievements and is ready to do everything necessary the team wants.   

In fact, outside of the coaching clashes of his past, Arroyo has had little negative history with SVG, and has never been a chemistry problem for teammates in the NBA. Instead, this is actually one of the best chemistry moves for the Magic, as Arroyo has spent many seasons with the Magic and there are still many teammates from that team 2 seasons ago. They are very familiar with each other and Arroyo remains good friends with some of them and other NBA players. The team bond is there already. Here's a look at Arroyo celebrating with Dwight on one of his more historic alley-oops as it was a game winning play against the Spurs.   :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6EHymC25RM

 Resigning Arroyo would also bring many fans, because he is a fan favorite player and because of his nationality. I don't need to tell the newly luxury tax paying franchise what that brings. Lots of tickets. Lots of merchandise. Lots of money. Magic retain the free agent rights of Carlos Arroyo. I don't know if the rights can be waived or will be dealt away in a super minor deal if its another team that grabs Arroyo, but that seems to suggest something else that could potentially help Magic resign Arroyo. 

On a basketball side of things, Arroyo has alot of familiarity with the Magic system and plays. He has PG'ed the team for many seasons in the past, and it has not changed much since that 2 seasons ago. He brings a solid offensive game, that was at many times, as good and comparable a shooter and penetrator as Nelson. He is a good floor general for the offense, particularly at a backup capacity. He is still very quick and can play heavy minutes consistently, giving AJ rest if he's overplayed, which can be at times past 15 minutes or 3 straight games of heavy playing. He gives a different look than AJ at backup too. I'd imagine SVG would use whichever backup PG calls for the situation, as I think Arroyo is a much better PG than AJ for the offense. If the guards aren't too quick tho AJ is very much better than Arroyo for defense. Tho Magic have not been killed by Arroyo's defense in the past either. Just expect about the same or slightly less defense you get out of Nelson. As long as Arroyo hustles and plays 100% hard, SVG will have no problem.

I've always thought Arroyo as a nice floor general whose best aspect is shooting. He's a great shooter and that's something SVG encourages for the team's shooters. Arroyo does not change the style of play much at the PG spot between Nelson and him. One of Magic's biggest priorities right now is PG depth and having someone to relief Nelson and AJ at above a replacement level would be a big plus. If the Magic and Arroyo's camp agree to a vet minimum salary (Arroyo receiving vet min would be likely), then at that price I would be very hard pressed to find any better PG's out there for the Magic.  

PG- Nelson, AJ, Arroyo, Robinson

 

UPDATE:

http://www.elnuevodia.com/atentoboston-594738.html

Super short translation: Blazers have shown past and current interest. 76ers show interest, have him on their FA list board if a sign-and-trade of Andre Miller is completed. Celtics and Magic starting to show some legit interests too.

The Celtics and Magic interests into Carlos Arroyo were reported by the site HowardTheDunk.com

International teams Unicaja de Malaga and Olympiakos may show interest.

In the league of Israel, Arroyo averaged 15.5 points, 3.7 rebounds, 6.2 assists and 1.2 steals while winning MVP as his team won the championship.

In the campaign of Euroleague, Arroyo averaged 14.6 points, 2.7 rebounds, 4.1 assists, and 1.3 steals per game. El equipo llegó hasta la fase octavos de final. (Think that means final eight of Euroleague playoffs).

This FanPost was made by a member of the Orlando Pinstriped Post community, and is to be treated as the opinions and views of its author, not that of the blogger or blog community as a whole.

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arroyo would be a great asset to this team gret pick for the vet min

by f m on Jul 16, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Could this be the 3rd PG Otis was talking about?

Doubt it, but you never know with Otis.

Personally, I’d rather save money and pick up Robinson. Someone can offer Arroyo more than the vet’s min, which would probably be our max offer. Would be a good PR move (public relations and Puerto Rican… ha ha ha… sorry), but another wing (Barnes) is more important right now than another PG when you have Robinson there for cheap.

by bandrewg08 on Jul 16, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Arroyo wasn't bad

I would be concerned about one thing you mentioned, though – his age is approaching the level where guards have a sharp drop-off in ability. Statistically, Arroyo was actually somewhat of a defensive PG in ‘07-’08 (14.6 PER, 14.4 PER-against), so the loss of a step would be massive for his game. For comparison, Dooling had an 18.5 PER, 14.5 PER-against, and Nelson had a 17.6 PER, 18.2 PER-against.

Our current lineup of PGs features a strong offensive guard (Nelson, 23.2 PER, 15.7 PER-against) and a decent defensive guard (Johnson, 11.7 PER, 12.6 PER-against). Arroyo could be a happy medium between the two as a backup, but overall, I’d prefer R. Robinson for future potential.

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by The Dark on Jul 16, 2009 8:55 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He ain't no Bobby Jackson, that's for sure.

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by KingJafi on Jul 16, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's not worth the headache

Just pickup Robinson and get your extra wing player.

One Freaken Second

by magic fanatic on Jul 16, 2009 10:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't realize there was the love aspect of the relationship

For me it was only hate. If he sees a minute of action for this team this year it will be one too many.

by Lee for three on Jul 16, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah....but how do really feel?.....don't mince words now........

Just one man's opinion...

....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles"....

by hwyatt3 on Jul 16, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How great is that Youtube vid tho.

Dwight alleyoops the Magic to victory against Duncan and the Spurs! Was anyone there live? Also, did you see the absolutely weird lineup Magic fielded in that game? It was Nelson, JJ Redick, Carlos Arroyo, Hedo Turkoglu and Dwight Howard.

by derekk on Jul 16, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cancer

The biggest reason the Magic let him go was his off the court antics, he was NOT happy playing the backup role and he wanted everyone to know it. The team currently has an excellent cast of characters that should mesh perfectly.

by ben_gleicher on Jul 16, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I could see it working out if

+ he was cool with the minimum salary ($1.1M for a 7-year veteran)
+ he was cool with being the third-stringer (A.J.’s a better fit for this team, IMO)

Thing is, I don’t think he’d be cool with that.

by Ben Q Rock on Jul 16, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just ran into Jason Williams (former Heat) this weekend and he still looks like he is in good shape.

I almost asked him if he’d unretire to come to the Magic. He already knows Stan’s offense and defense and he lives here in Orlando. Wouldn’t be like uprooting his family to come. O.K. Let me have it. You all hate him don’t you. Guess what? I could care less. Him, Zeke and Chris Paul are my top 3 all time PGs. I still remember when he lived here with Nick Anderson when he was coming out of Florida.

Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards,Rays and "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Jul 16, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Williams wouldn't be an awful 3rd PG

Not sure if he’s interested in making a comeback, though. Last thing I read was that he was happily raising his children.

by Ben Q Rock on Jul 16, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHITE CHOCOLATE............

Just one man's opinion...

....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles"....

by hwyatt3 on Jul 17, 2009 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah he did look pretty happy.

It was him, Shaq’s wife and a few other wives. Gotta love kids sports. The parents are always out there to support the little ones. I see Shaq and/or his wife every weekend, but this was my 1st time seeing J Will.

Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards,Rays and "the U"! What a winning combo.

by hevchv on Jul 17, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please No

Absolutely not, give me Robinson please. Personally I can not stand Arroyo and want no part of him on the Magic. Thanks but no thanks.

by hedoswimmove on Jul 16, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He's a serviceable backup

If nothing else is out there why not give him a run to see.
I dont know if he’s that much of a headcase, people said the same thing about Rafer. And I know that argument doesnt hold up….but Im tired, its late and all I can remember is his play in the 2004 Olympics

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by Wasabi Steak on Jul 16, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Not sign him

Robinson is not a good choice here either, lets get someone with a little more height. I like the Wafer idea the best so far, unless we’re trading for Orlando sensation Jermaine Taylor!

by stanleygoober on Jul 16, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither is a PG

Wafer is a SG and Taylor is a boxer.

JK, I know who Jermaine Taylor is =P

by bandrewg08 on Jul 16, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I WONT MISS THE SOCKS................!

…hedo sets the pick in vain as carlos arroyo forgets to bring the ball with him…..

the ever talented arroyo is poised and prepared for his dance recital after the game…..having already equipped himself with his dancers leggings………those socks really bug me………

for real though….i like his game……he can pass beautifully and hes fun to watch…..i will, however, have more fun watching him play against us than for us …….

Just one man's opinion...

....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles"....

by hwyatt3 on Jul 18, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hehe,

 who knows, what if unfortunately GSW matches CJ, and then Magic resign Arroyo?
He will give you his socks after his 1st game, how about it? :P :D

by derekk on Jul 18, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice..........

Just one man's opinion...

....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles"....

by hwyatt3 on Jul 18, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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