Evaluating Hedo Turkoglu
This week, 3QC will take a look back on each Magic player's 2008/2009 season. Each day focuses on one position: Monday for point guards, Tuesday for shooting guards, Wednesday for small forwards, Thursday for power forwards, and Friday for centers. I'll evaluate each individual player at that position at regular intervals throughout the day, while Eddy will make a general survey of the position later in the afternoon.
It's now Hedo Turkoglu's turn.
| Hedo Turkoglu | ||
|---|---|---|
| No. 15 | Small Forward | |
| Points Per Game | Rebounds Per Game | Assists Per Game |
| 16.8 | 5.3 | 4.9 |
| Points Per 36 | Rebounds Per 36 | Assists Per 36 |
| 16.5 | 5.2 | 4.8 |
| PER | Rebound Rate | Assist Rate |
| 14.8 | 8.2 | 22.4 |
| FG% | 3FG% | FT% |
| 41.3% | 35.6% | 80.7% |
| eFG% | TS% | |
| 47.8% | 54.1% | |
All statistics in this table from Turkoglu's player page at basketball-reference. Career-high statistics highlighted in gold. | ||
Anything I say about Hedo Turkoglu--who, along with Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson, is the longest-tenured Orlando Magic player--at this point in the summer, where it looks like he'll move on to a team willing to spend more money on him, is sure to elicit an emotional response. Not that I blame Magic fans for that, of course. Over the last several seasons, he's made numerous clutch plays. He's also a fun personality, a guy for whom you feel good cheering. There are rarely mixed emotions regarding Hedo, although his detractors are among the most vitriolic I've ever seen.
So, how'd he do this year?
Well, not bad, all things considered. All his major statistics declined sharply, which is bad. And his PER was slightly below the league average. But statistics don't tell the whole story with Hedo, I don't think. His very presence on the floor creates mismatches in Orlando's favor. I mean, you try designing a defensive scheme that can account for a versatile, 6'10" small forward; another 6'10" forward who's more of an outside threat, but who can put it on the floor if need be; and arguably the best center in the league, who stands 6'11". Nightmarish, because even when Turk shoots something awful, like 3-for-13, he's still a playmaking threat whom defenses have to respect. Oh, and he spaces the floor. Good luck with that.
Make no mistake, though: Hedo Turkoglu isn't an All-Star. He deserved the nod in 07/08 over Joe Johnson, but not this year. The low shooting percentages, and the sometimes boneheaded decisions, are simply too much to ignore.
But all-in-all, Hedo was the player who drove the Magic's offense this year. At times, it was special. But is that really a resume-builder? Orlando's offense ranked 11th in the league, just behind Atlanta, and only slightly above the league average. The recently acquired Vince Carter should easily exceed Turkoglu's production, and potentially make the offense that much more potent. Then again, Carter doesn't have Turk's size, making him an easier cover. Maybe.
In Hedo, you have a 30-year-old player whose skill set is a better selling point than his actual production. Guys with that distinction generally don't sit well with me. But Hedo? I can't really hate on the guy who led the Magic in scoring during their ill-fated trip to the Finals this year. He's been an asset to the team for 5 years total, but the last 2 in particular. The Magic, and most of their fans, will miss him.
| Grade: B+ |
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He's a great, fun, goofy guy
but I still haven’t made up my mind about his production as a basketball player.
Given that, I have to say thank you to him for being so fun to watch. He has some pretty classic moves (the leaning jumper along the baseline) that I’ve even tried in the gym haha. I just want him to get what he wants, and that be the end of it.
by fwedo on Jul 1, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've enjoyed watching Turk play over the years and hate to see him go.
Although his %‘S were down this year i think he still created problems for other teams by doing other things on the floor that helped the team. You have to factor in in his playmaking which led to another 10pts. a game. I just enjoyed watching a 6’10 guy create like that. Yeah he had some 3for13 nights and boneheads but he wasn’t alone in that. But the sign of a good player is you are able to do other things on the floor that can help your team win. I think he brings that. Good Luck Turk.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on Jul 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could wind up in Toronto with Bosh for around 60mil.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on Jul 2, 2009 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt he lands with the Raptors.
They’d have to renounce a number of guys.
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by erivera7 on Jul 2, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turk
our days with games that have 5-7 min scoring droughts are over!
thanks for all the fun Turk
i think were better off most of the better defenders in the league are forwards, its why we struggle with detroit prince is a top defender in the league and with Turk doing all the ball handling… well we know how that worked out
i have a feeling that with the back court doing most of the ball handling we’ll be much better off, last year all taems had to look for was the high pic&roll, next year it will come from everywhere with V.C roaming arround.
by D-RAK on Jul 1, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Teams will still have to look for the PnR but the offense may be more diversified with Vince Carter.
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by erivera7 on Jul 1, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As you can see, I'm really taking this opportunity to use some fun pictures
by Ben Q Rock on Jul 1, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing wrong with that.
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by erivera7 on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to miss Turk
Now my final judgment will be determined on who we get to fill out the roster in free agency. But I strongly believe that next year’s team will be better than this year’s. I mean, to this day Darrell Armstrong is still one of my favorite Magic players of all time. Doesn’t mean I want him coming out of retirement to suit up for us next year. I was upset when Shaq left us in 96, but I moved on. When it comes down to it, I love my Orlando Magic players. But even more importantly, I love the team and I love winning. I think Vince Carter gives us an even better chance to do that.
by Lee for three on Jul 1, 2009 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well said.
Otis said it best to me .. fans like winning. That cures everything.
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by erivera7 on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"skill set is a better selling point than his actual production"
Beautifully said! I’ll remember that distinction from now on as there is a very solid gem of truth in it.
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on Jul 2, 2009 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
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by erivera7 on Jul 2, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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