Los Angeles Lakers 100, Orlando Magic 75: The Morning After
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Los Angeles Lakers crush Orlando Magic in Game 1 of NBA Finals
Brian Schmitz recaps the Lakers' victory over the Magic last night.Kobe Bryant welcomed back the Magic to their first NBA Finals since 1995, scoring 40 points to lead the Los Angeles Lakers to a 100-75 rout in Game 1 at Staples Center.
The Magic pulled out all the stops. They brought point guard Jameer Nelson out of mothballs and playing more than anyone could have imagined (23 minutes) after a four-month layoff, but it wasn't nearly enough. -
No more Magic fantasyland as Lakers, Kobe dominate
Mike Bianchi talks about Orlando's defeat at the hands of Los Angeles. -
Title is key to Kobe Bryant's renown
George Diaz elaborates on Kobe Bryant's chase for his fourth ring. -
Nelson's return a nice problem
Kyle Hightower recaps Jameer Nelson's performance yesterday.Nelson played the entire period and scored four points (2-of-4 shooting), dishing out four assists and grabbing one rebound.
Van Gundy said he thought Nelson played well in the second quarter, but was forcing things in the second half. Nelson played 23 minutes in all and ended his night with six points (3-of-9 field goals), four assists and two boards. Alston played 25 minutes and also had six points (2-of-9).
Though Nelson said after playing a lot more minutes than he anticipated Thursday, he said it's all about finding the fastest way to improve.
"I wasn't going out there to try to be the hero or be the savior. I thought I would try to bring a little energy," he said. "The players have been around me and know the style I play. So it wasn't like I was going to shoot every ball or make every play ... It's about the next night now." -
Lakers Crush Magic in Game 1
Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse asserts the Magic were overwhelmed by the Lakers. -
Pietrus Honors Memory of Flight 447
Mickael Pietrus, nicknamed 'Air France', donned kicks with the No. 447 on the sides to honor the memory of Air France Flight 447.A nice gesture by the Frenchman.
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Nelson Plays But Can't Make an Impact
Matt Steinmetz of NBA FanHouse captures some quotes after Game 1."I think he had an effect in the ballgame," Lakers coach Phil Jackson said of Nelson. "I think he came in and he was effective in penetration and finding guys. It looked like he was back in the format of what he wanted to get accomplished. Obviously his shooting wasn't quite there, although he hit a couple of shots. But we anticipate he'll be out there more."
Maybe so. But don't expect Nelson to be introduced with the starters at any point in this series.
"I'm not coming back to start," Nelson said. "I'm coming back just to relieve Ray (Rafer Alston) when he needs a break and just do what the team needs. I'm not trying to come back and start or anything like that. I think he's done a great job and no matter what he deserves to start." -
Part I, In Which The Mamba Sinks It’s Teeth In: Orlando at LA, Game 1
Matt Moore of Hardwood Paroxysm lists his observations from last night's matchup. -
Are Finals Blowouts Meaningful?
Henry Abbott of TrueHoop takes a look back in NBA history to see whether or not blowouts in the NBA Finals are truly meaningful to a series outcome. -
Last Year's Finals Still Driving Lakers
Sean Deveney of The Baseline notes how last year's NBA Finals experience is on the minds of every Los Angeles player right now and what that means for Orlando. - NBA Finals showcases eclectic mix of stars
Dan Wetzel of Yahoo! Sports delves, briefly, about the variety of stars in the championship series that reside from Europe, high school, etc. - Nelson's return puts Alston in awkward spot
Johnny Ludden of Yahoo! Sports talks about the point guard play. - Behind the Box Score, where the Lakers were dominant
Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don't Lie analyzes Game 1 of the NBA Finals.
I don't want to hear about "jitters," because the Magic came out and topped the Lakers by two points in the initial quarter. [...]
Really, it was pretty simple. The Magic could not make shots.
The Jameer Nelson saga? Some tried to spin it, after the game, talking about how Rafer Alston missed the entire second quarter, and how that somehow turned off the Orlando offense. Really? I just saw a lot of missed, open-to-easy, shots. I saw Rashard Lewis miss a ton. I saw Dwight Howard miss some chippies. I saw Mickael Pietrus miss a few. Courtney Lee, as well. Marcin Gortat, near the basket. And that's all in the second quarter!
That's not on Nelson. He set these guys up, and the guys set themselves up. Rafer Alston on the bench has nothing to do with Rashard Lewis missing an eight-footer on a post-up, on a play where Nelson didn't even make the entry pass. Or Lee missing an open three-pointer.
And the second biggest thing, to me? Dwight Howard was horrible. Absolutely horrible, on either end.
There was plenty of talk about Howard missing one of six shots. Only taking six shots. Only making one. Having no real impact in the scoring column. We love to talk about offense.
But it was his defense that was the absolute worst. He was a step slow on his help, all game. With or without foul trouble, and usually without any chance at picking up an actual foul. Late in contesting shots, and late in getting to rebounds on both ends. -
An Impressive Win
Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospect breaks down, with great detail, how Los Angeles was able to defeat Orlando in such convincing fashion.Let's start by dissecting the Lakers' offense. What's interesting is that, on some level, Bryant's game was exactly what the Magic would want. He got to the free-throw line relatively infrequently (eight attempts) and took a single three-pointer among his 34 shot attempts. Bryant was shooting virtually exclusively midrange twos, which is why he still was not especially efficient, scoring 40 points on 38 shot attempts. The strategy worked for two reasons. First, Bryant is simply the best in the game when it comes to making difficult shots. Second, he was able to take those shots from 12-15 feet instead of 15-20 feet, a crucial distinction. Bryant did that by backing down Lee in the post and because Orlando was not particularly aggressive in defending the pick-and-roll, preferring instead to lay back and keep Bryant away from the bucket. [...]
Howard had a bizarre statistical line, attempting 16 free throws and just six shots from the field. He was able to draw a number of fouls on the Lakers' big men, especially Andrew Bynum, but was unable to finish in the paint the way he did in the Eastern Conference Finals, making a single field goal. More often, Howard was drawing help and kicking the ball out, making the right play. However, Pietrus (3-for-5) and Rashard Lewis (2-for-4) were the only Orlando players who were hitting from the perimeter. The starting backcourt of Lee and Rafer Alston combined for one triple in eight attempts.
More problematic for the Magic was attempting to drive when the Lakers closed out hard. They met stiff resistance in terms of help defense with long arms ready to contest shots. Lewis wilted under the defensive pressure, missing all six of his two-point attempts, and his teammates were hardly much better. Hedo Turkoglu was unable to supply the missing offense; he shot 2-of-8 on twos and created just two assists.
Initially, it appeared Nelson would be able to supply a spark on offense. After his initial burst of energy, however, Nelson proved ineffective. He handed out three assists in his first four minutes on the floor, then one over the next 19. Nelson shot 3-for-9 from the field, which actually made him a relatively effective shooter compared to his teammates. Nelson ended up with a -19 plus-minus, but it would be a mistake to read too much into that. The Magic proved equally ineffective with Nelson on the bench early in the third quarter. [...]
We've seen all too often in this postseason that a lopsided win means nothing the next game. Even Orlando bounced back from its worse loss of the playoffs (Game Two at Boston) to win Game Three going away. The concern for the Magic, then, should be less about the outcome of this particular game than the fact that the Lakers have now played arguably their two best games of the playoffs back-to-back. They seem to have found the higher level of play we suspected they have had in them all along, and as long as they continue to play at that level they will be very difficult, perhaps impossible, to beat. -
Orlando Magic meltdown in NBA Finals Game 1
Chris Sheridan of ESPN.com gathers some quotes from a few Magic players.Howard had just one field goal on six attempts, failing to convert a bucket from the first quarter on -- which coincided with the time the game first started getting away from the Magic before it got out of control.
The Lakers pushed him out of his comfort zone, cut off the baseline and quickly rotated out to the Magic's shooters when Howard had to bail out. But did said shooters bail him out? No.
Mickael Pietrus went 3-for-5 from behind the arc (making one of them after pump faking Bryant three times -- another play that would have been highlight reel material if it hadn't taken place with the Magic already down 20-plus points), but Orlando's starting backcourt combined to shoot 1-for-8 on 3s (Courtney Lee was 1-for-4, and Rafer Alston went 0-for-4) and 5-for-19 overall. Nelson was a spotty 3-for-9 from the field in his first game in four months.
Aside from Howard, Orlando's other two main offensive weapons, Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis, were almost as brutal from the field.
Said Turkoglu, who shot 3-for-11: "Compared to the last three series, and what we did to get here, we didn't do anything. They wanted this one more than us."
From Lewis, who shot 2-for-10: "There was no stage fright at all. Look, they scored 56 points in the paint, that's more than half. You can't win ballgames like that." [...] -
Can the Orlando Magic bounce back after Game 1 Finals loss?
Marc Stein of ESPN.com chimes in with his thoughts.Orlando has lots to repair even if the presumed dents to its self-confidence are a media creation.
[...] it's the Magic's turn for a resurrection. You want to believe they've got one more surprise stored up, remembering how decisively they answered Glen Davis' Game 5 buzzer-beater by winning a Game 7 in Boston and then bullied LeBron James' Cavs. But this looks like a bigger job for Superman and Co. based on our first glimpse of how L.A.'s activity took away Orlando's inside game. -
The Lakers Pick a New Strategy, and Roll
Kevin Arnovitz of TrueHoop captures this quote from Magic head coach Stan Van Gundy that caught my eye. Needless to say, the ol' coach is correct."I think both our coaching on how to play the pick-and-roll and our execution were poor," Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said. "I thought we were giving him too much space on pull-up jumpers, particularly on pick-and-rolls."
- Friday Bullets
David Thorpe is expecting things to be pretty different in Game 2. The Orlando Magic couldn't figure things out at the offensive end of the floor. But if they had been scoring at all like they did in the last series (shooting 15-53 inside the arc), and the game had been close, then Kobe Bryant's 34 shots would be seen as Bryant once again doing too much. Thorpe also points out that Bryant didn't get the most efficient opportunities -- nothing from downtown, and very little at the line. But the Lakers rolled, and Bryant looked like a genius. But that doesn't mean a similar approach couldn't be used in a win.
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IT’S JUST ONE GAME
UPDATE: Dwight Howard posts on his official blog and shares his thoughts.OK, ya’ll I know that was ugly, but it’s just one game. Trust me, it was just one game.
We just had a really bad shooting night and it happened to come at the worst time in the NBA Finals. I think we hit like 23 shots as a team and Kobe had 16 all by himself for L.A. We’ve never had a shooting night that bad all season, so I don’t expect that to happen again to us.
Ya’ll know how we bounce back, so I fully expect us to learn from this over these next two days and come out ready on Sunday. We came back when Philly hit a couple of shots on us, we came back from Big Baby’s shot in Orlando and Bron’s 3-pointer at the buzzer. We can get this turned around too and I know we will.
The thing that upset me most was that the Lakers played harder than we did. They beat us to loose balls, they outrebounded us and outworked us. That just can’t happen. Rarely have we ever said a team outworked us, but that was the case. - Magic Defense: Another Bad Game 1
UPDATE 2: Tom Ziller of NBA FanHouse, using some detailed charts, shows Orlando's trend of playing poor defensively in Game 1's this year ...The Magic, boasting the top-rated defense during the regular season, let L.A. score at will for several stretches of Game 1. Alarmed? Know that this wasn't the first series-opener this postseason in which Orlando's vaunted defense laid an egg.
L.A. Ate All of Orlando's Rebounds
... and examines how Los Angeles dominated the boards last night. - Los Angeles Lakers making noise on defense
UPDATE 3: John Hollinger of ESPN.com talks about how the Lakers were able to shut down the Magic.
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Magic Blog: David Steele
UPDATE 4: David Steele provides his thoughts about yesterday's matchup. -
Nelson's return can't save Magic in Game 1
UPDATE 5: Chris Broussard of ESPN.com states that Jameer's return from his shoulder injury garnered mixed reviews. - For a Lakers perspective on Game 1, check out Forum Blue And Gold, Lakers Blog, and Silver Screen and Roll.
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From Dwight's blog:
My guys will bounce back from this, and so will I. We know we’re a better team than we showed last night and we’ll play much better in Game 2.
Remember ya’ll, it’s just one game. It’s going to be a long series – believe that.
It’s go time Dwight.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Orlando has to win Game 2.
.. hopefully the team understands that.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would say it’s more of a must win game for the lakers than it is for the magic…
by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. If they want to win this series.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on Jun 5, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's how I see it.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, that game last night really just sucked
Meh, it’s forgotten now. Next game please.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im still scratching my head as to why Stan van gundy takes the only player on the magic roster with finals experience, Anthony Johnson (who has played very well throughout the playoff run) out of the rotation for a guy who hasnt played in 4 months
ouch
by ohc on Jun 5, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Take this all with a grain of salt because I've never competed in the NBA Finals
But I think that whole “scared by the surroundings” thing is overrated. Yeah before the game it’s a factor and maybe you rush a few shots in the first quarter. But once you get into the flow of the game, you’re not thinking about this being an NBA Finals game. In fact, you’re really not thinking much of anything except the set you are about to run and what your responsibilities are.
by Lee for three on Jun 5, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats true, but even if you throw that theory completly out the window, Jameer shouldnt have played anymore then 10 minutes last night, I think it actually confused both teams as to why he did.
Anthony Johnson is a veteran, been to the finals 2 times, and imo has played about as good as you can in spot minutes behind alston in the playoffs, and why you completly take him out of the rotation for a guy who hasnt played in months, has no timing etc etc is mind boggling
by ohc on Jun 5, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only problem last night with Jameer was that he played too many minutes.
He was effective in short spurts, as we saw in the second quarter. Nelson just needs to play in 5-6 minute intervals, not extended minutes because then some of his deficiencies creep out.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, exactly right…
But I think a case could be made for contiuing to play anthony johnson in those minutes, in which he was excelled throughout the playoffs…
by ohc on Jun 5, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magic just need to maintain continuity with the rotations, that's all.
Stick with what’s working but instead of A.J. getting 10-15 minutes, Jameer will.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, E you said you had no doubt nelson would have gotten the magic this far. they’ve made this far without him, and now that he’s back, stick with him. you said he’s that much better than alston.
by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely stick with him, but SVG knows he needs to follow his own gameplan.
.. he intended to give Jameer 6-7 minutes, at most at a time, and he didn’t do that.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree....23 mins was way too much for Nelson
he had some flashes but it was obvoius he’s not operating at 100%.
by Lee for three on Jun 5, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just have to ease Jameer back slowly .. use him in short bursts.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Things were working there for the 1st. quarter and into the 2nd.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on Jun 5, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to the drawing board.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on Jun 5, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KP did a great job of pointing out that the Magic, from a defensive standpoint ..
.. put Kobe in spots where he attempted inefficient shots. Nearly the majority of his attempts were mid-range twos, which is the most inefficient shot in basketball. But Bryant, because he’s good, simply made ’em.
I’m aware that Kobe can be money from mid-range when he gets into his comfort zone and favorite spots on the court but if Orlando can continue to force him to take those shots, the better off the team will be.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he looked in pain to me. i’d be surprised if he finishes the series.
by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't pain.
Kobe was just scowling.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your favourite word
Execution.
We didn’t have any.
by eltharion_doa on Jun 5, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank goodness
I’m not sure how comfortable I would’ve been with Sasha Vujacic getting beheaded by guillotine.
by Avinash on Jun 5, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
None whatsoever.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It seemed they lost focus there and couldn't get it back for whatever reason.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on Jun 5, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and that's the whole story. focus&execution. we bring that 2 with us for game 2 and we're back in this series,i'm sure.
i find it impossible for gortat to be the best magic player out there again.
not to take anything from him,sure. the others must step up,and we’ll go from there.
by Dzogi on Jun 6, 2009 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just one game
Last night was ugly to watch,but there were some bright spots. Gortat played well and did a better than average job on Gasol. Pietrus played good defense on Kobe, but God couldn’t have defended some of those shots he made.Still if MP plays like that on sunday it hopefully will even out. Let Kobe score 50 on contested jumpers and shut down the easy assists. I don’t see us shooting this poorly for a second straight game. Although LA was good defensively, the magic were getting good shots and they just wouldn’t go down. I’m not panicing yet.Go Magic.
once in a while you can get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right
by iko4 on Jun 5, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
teeth guard
can anybody please tell jameer nelson to put his teethguard inside his mouth instead of biting it & showing it on national tv all the time?
it’s disgusting!!!
by ed2U on Jun 5, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jameer always does that .. that's a bit of a fickle complaint.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does he ever put it fully into his mouth, or is he always biting it, hanging it from his mouth?
by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He usually bites it when he runs back on defense after a made shot or what not, etc.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's just Jameer
I’ve never seen him not doing that.
by Jwoey on Jun 5, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the point guard and team leader. He needs to be able to speak.
Tough to do that with a mouthguard in. I know it’s gross, but, c’mon…
by Ben Q Rock on Jun 6, 2009 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben put out a scary tweet
Talking about all home games being sold out. I’m praying I can still get some tomorrow morning. Anybody have any news on that situation?
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 5, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have you tried StubHub or something?
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats a last resort after my last resort
could get expensive. Ticketmaster says upper level goes as high as 118, that’s around my price range so I’m praying I get lucky tomorrow morning. We’ll see I guess.
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 5, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, good luck with that.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lowest ticket price for game 5 on Stubhub is 190
That’s actually not that bad
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 5, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's decent.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't get lucky
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 6, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sucks.
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by erivera7 on Jun 6, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nelson's play; Strategy on Kobe
You’re right about Nelson; too many minutes. Van Gundy WILL remedy that come Sunday. Everybody has to accept his limitations; starting with Nelson.
We HAVE to kick it up two notches on defense; maybe put a floating Lee on/off in front, while Pietrus takes his back, and have the rest of the guys rotate to compensate. Have someone OTHER than Kobe be the one to beat us.
On offense, we simply have to EXECUTE. We had PLENTY of good looks, some even WIDE OPEN! WE MISSED, TIME AFTER TIME… I KNOW we can do much better; we MUST, otherwise the Lakers WILL fell themselves invincible… and play like it, too!
Can’t wait for game two! Go Magic!!!
by manny55 on Jun 5, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, like I said above, Orlando has no choice but to win Game 2.
.. or else this NBA Finals will be all but over unless something miraculous happens.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Miami Heat did it. having three straight home games is BIG.
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by magic fanatic on Jun 5, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three STRAIGHT at home IS BIG...
…and after watching this game I believe the possibility is there for the Magic to counter some of the triangle plus defense – and yeah, hitting shots like were missed last night will be required. But my main observation is that Orlando can run the offense they beat Boston and Cleveland with – pick and rolls and Dwight posting – inside out – but the best move Howard should be using (assuming he can get the ball at ten feet or so on the block) will be a drop step, which neither Gasol nor Bynum can cover if Dwight leaves his feet and turns into them drawing fouls and dunking when he’s close enough. I saw a bunch of opportunities to run a play like that in the second half but the dribble penetration wasn’t strong enough and they laid off the shooters. But that would take it to the Lakers in the way that most effects their ability to run and puts all the pressure on Bynum because Gasol is already giving away position.
by jyrecelts on Jun 5, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the only team to have accomplished that feat in a 2/3/2 format .. ergo, the miraculous.
Likewise, 2009 Los Angeles Lakers > 2006 Dallas Mavericks.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
In all fairness though, 2009 Orlando Magic > 2006 Miami Heat as well.
by Worthy J. on Jun 5, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true. Point taken.
.. still would be a tough, tough feat to accomplish.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm on the fence w/the 2-3-2
On the one hand, if you split the first two as the road team, you just need to win 2 of 3 at home to have a commanding 3-2 lead.
The problem is though, I think it’s much more likely for the “worse” team to win 3 games in the 2-2-1-1-1 format than the 2-3-2. When you get to the level of the NBA Finals it’s incredibly tough to beat a team three straight games. So it makes it a lot harder for the team w/3 in a row at home to successfully defend homecourt.
by Lee for three on Jun 5, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
.. and then, if a "road" team is down 3-2, that's pretty much a wrap.
No “road” team has won a Game 7 in the history of the 2/3/2 format. At least with the 2/2/1/1/1 format it’s possible because you have a home game tossed in there.
That’s why Neil Paine, when I spoke with him a few days ago, pointed out to me that the odds of an underdog winning in 6 games in the 2/3/2 format is more probable than the underdog winning in 7 games. If you think about it, it makes sense.
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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah basically
If the underdog splits the first two on the road, they have a big advantage.
If the favorite wins the first two, they have a big advantage. And yeah, being down 3-2 is much more manageable when only one game is on the road as opposed to two.
by Lee for three on Jun 5, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
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