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Los Angeles Lakers 100, Orlando Magic 75

In a 100-75 blowout, the Los Angeles Lakers jumped all over the Orlando Magic to take control of the 2009 NBA Finals. The score might as well have been 1000-7, though. Kobe Bryant had the best game of his NBA Finals career, with 40 points on 16-of-34 shooting to lead all scorers. As Zach Harper of talkhoops noted on Twitter, Bryant had more field goals in the second and third quarters (11) than the entire Magic team did (10). He was, despite the scoring, not the only reason the Lakers won this game. Their defense held Orlando to 29.9% shooting from the field--the worst Finals Game 1 shooting performance of the shot-clock era-- and limited Dwight Howard to 1 field goal in 6 attempts. Their 55-41 edge on the boards helped keep the ball out of the Magic's hands, either by ending Orlando's possessions after 1 miss with a defensive rebound or by prolonging their own with an offensive rebound. From top to bottom, every Laker played great, and Orlando must improve in every facet of the game if it hopes to muster a comeback in the series.

TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Magic8489.035.1%27.320.09.5
Lakers119.047.8%16.932.610.7

There are just so many hideous statistics I can point out from this game. The Magic and the Lakers, for instance, each had 3 players in double figures. However, the Magic's three leading scorers--that'd be Mickael Pietrus with 14 off the bench, Hedo Turkoglu with 13, and Howard with 12--managed to combine for 39 points, which is one short of what Bryant produced himself. It's not just the stats, though, which is why I'm going to try to limit my use of them (ha!) for much of this recap. One need not look at them to understand or to prove the Lakers' utter dominance tonight. It manifested itself in essentially every play made in the game, on either end of the floor, after the first quarter. Orlando led, 24-22, after one period, for what it's worth.

I tend not to buy any hype about how some teams "want it more," while others are "happy to be here," and that's why the games play themselves out. Both the Magic and the Lakers are worthy combatants for the NBA title, and both want to win. Heart, desire, other intangibles really don't matter here. Kobe did not score 40 because he wanted it more, or because he's a born winner, etc. Kobe scored 40 because he played intelligently, took good shots against reasonably good defense from Pietrus and Courtney Lee, and converted them. The Magic didn't shoot 30% because they were satisfied just to reach the Finals, or because they have stage fright, but because the Lakers contested almost every shot quickly and intellgently. Sure, Orlando had some offensive lapses, but those in and of itself are not unique to the Finals. The Magic failed to execute in the first game of the season, a 14-point loss to the Atlanta Hawks at home. But here, at the NBA Finals, the highest level of basketball competition in the world, nobody can afford to make those mistakes. Work the pick-and-roll more diligently, find more open looks, convert them... and maybe this game is closer. But, in a 25-point game, it's hard just to point at one thing and say, "well, if the losing team did that better, they'd have won."

There are a lot of things for coach Stan Van Gundy to sort out in the next two days. He'll certainly be busy. There's the issue of finding better--but not necessarily more--touches for Dwight Howard. Decry his getting only 6 shot attempts all you like, but he still shot 16 free throws and committed 2 turnovers. He had his share of touches. And the defense definitely needs work, particularly on the interior. Odd as it sounds in a game in which they only mustered 75 points, their defensive effort and intensity might be the bigger problem than their offense. Consider that the Magic were +6 on free throws and +15 on three-pointers. That means the Lakers outscored them on two-pointers by a staggering 46 points. Orlando had no answer for Los Angeles' high-low game with any combination of bigs, but especially when Pau Gasol played center with Lamar Odom at power forward. Too many open looks under the hoop.

Individual matchups are also a concern--what isn't a concern on defense for Orlando right now?--as Lee could not stop Luke Walton from scoring inside. With Lee and Pietrus on the floor at the same time, at shooting guard and small forward, respectively, the Magic used Pietrus to defend Bryant and Lee to defend Walton. Perhaps on paper, this matchup skews heavily in Lee's favor. However, that paper may not account for Walton's 3-inch, 35-pound size advantage on Lee, which is how he simply muscled through him for 3 baskets during that span. Overall, Walton shot 4-of-5 for 9 points. Yes, Luke Walton hit four times as many field goals as Dwight Howard did. It's no wonder why Orlando lost by 25.

Given the way this game played out, Van Gundy will face heavy criticism for putting Jameer Nelson back in the lineup. Days of will-he-or-won't-he discussion regarding Nelson led up to the Finals, and ultimately, the answer was, "he will." Jameer got off to a great start, dishing 3 assists in his first 3 minutes on the court, but his play bottomed out as the game progressed. In 23 minutes off the bench--yes, he split time with starter Rafer Alston almost exactly--Jameer scored 6 points on 3-of-9 shooting and handed out 4 assists. He was a -19 in the game, while Alston was a -6. Both Nelson and Van Gundy are certain to come under fire, but I'm not sure if it's fair. Nelson set the table for his teammates very well early on, but they just missed shots. As the game wore on, Nelson's shot came up shorter and shorter, and nobody else was making baskets, either. What, exactly, is Nelson supposed to do? His team's failure in this game does not fall squarely on his shoulders, one of which is surgically repaired. Nor does it rest squarely on Van Gundy's shoulders. Everyone is complicit. Maybe I'll let Marcin Gortat (4 points, 8 rebounds, 2 steals, 4 blocks, no turnovers, lots of hustle in 20 minutes) off the hook... but everyone else needs to play better. Period. Otherwise, the Magic are going to find themselves winless in the NBA Finals for the second time in franchise history. Bleak, but true.

Yes, I badly want to say that a loss is a loss is a loss... Henry Abbott points out that teams that win Finals games in blowout fashion overwhelmingly tend to win the whole shebang. The Magic are going to have to buck yet another trend if they hope to win their first title. Not too surprising, that.

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We won’t shoot this bad again. They won’t look this good again. Just move on, lots of basketball to be played still.

One Freaken Second

by magic fanatic on Jun 5, 2009 3:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Right... it's only one loss!

…even though it was by 25 points.

The Lakers deserve credit for playing well both offensively and defensively, but whoever would have thought that Turk, Lewis, and D12 would combine for a grand total of six field goals the whole game, or that the Magic starters would shoot under 25%.

Magic Johnson pointed out on SportsCenter that his 1985 Lakers squad lost Game 1 of the Finals by over 30 points at Boston, yet came back to win the series.

I expect a completely different Magic team in Game 2.

"Why not us... why not now?"

by Mike from Illinois on Jun 5, 2009 3:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You have to keep in mind that

that team had 4 hall of famers in Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Magic, Bob McAdoo, and James Worthy and a very solid cast around them that included great performers like Michael Cooper and Byron Scott

That being said i think this game was an aberration and will likely not happen again until maybe a closeout game. There is a great potential for the Magic to make this an interesting series especially when they get back on their home court, I wouldn’t count them out just yet

by UnleashTheMamba on Jun 5, 2009 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand what you're saying

That was a great 1985 Lakers’ team, without question; I was just trying to point out that all is not necessarily lost when a team gets whipped in Game 1 of the Finals.

"Why not us... why not now?"

by Mike from Illinois on Jun 5, 2009 4:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Understood

I too expect to see a totally different Magic team.

I don’t think we’ll see anymore blowouts this series. This game may have been a wake up call to The Magic

by UnleashTheMamba on Jun 5, 2009 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No EASY baskets for Kobe; let's work HARDER!

Guys…

Kobe did NOT beat us 100-75; we beat ourselves. LeBron James had, not one 40+ games, but THREE! And we still beat him on those three games. In this game 1, we even had THREE times MORE 3-point shots (9) AND TWICE as many steals (8) than them.

What we did NOT have was any semblance of shot accuracy in 2-point shots; a pathetic 29% from the field, with Howard paving the way!

I MUST commend Pietrus and Gortat, because they were the ONLY Magic players who played GREAT. MP contested EVERY shot Kobe tried, while scoring 14 points, 3-5 from beyond the ark, and Gortat grabbed 8 rebounds and blocked 4 shots! Lots of hustle from those two.

The GREAT tragedy was the disappearing act of Turk and Lewis; a combined 5-22 from the field, with a paltry 9 rebounds and 4 assists between them. UNACCEPTABLE!

As for Nelson, he was effective for a few minutes; then SVG allowed him to overstay his welcome, slowing and dragging the team with him. It’s clear that he out of range and has NO outside shot. We need to go back to our proven system with the Alston-Johnson tandem.

One last thing…

I’m TIRED of this Kobe adulation: His 40-point game is NO BETTER than LeBron’s in the past series, and those points are relevant ONLY because the Magic shot so poorly. Also; all this comments about how “effortless” and "easily" he scored, is pure crap! He WAS closely guarded, hounded, and contested in over 90% of his shots.

So; ENOUGH of this blabber-talk. Let’s get to WORK and SHOW who the Orlando Magic REALLY are. Let’s PASTE them in game two!

by manny55 on Jun 5, 2009 4:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah dude, but

you say “LeBron James had, not one 40+ games, but THREE! And we still beat him on those three games.” One thing Lebron didn’t have was a supporting cast that could ACTUALLY play basketball.

Also L.A. has the length and mobility to play effective defense on Shard and Hedo.

‘Kobe won’t go off for 40 or more again. It was just a statement he needed to make. Look for him to involve Pau Lamar and Trevor even more next game.

by UnleashTheMamba on Jun 5, 2009 4:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah... Bryant received a lot more help from his teammates than LBJ did from his teammates

Bryant’s supporting cast played their roles well in Game 1.

"Why not us... why not now?"

by Mike from Illinois on Jun 5, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think anyone can dispute that the Lakers supporting cast > Cavaliers supporting cast.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lakers supporting cast > Cavaliers supporting cast.

Of course it is, that is why we expect our team to win the Championship, while LeBron sits at home and gets annoyed by Lil Dez.

by wondahbap on Jun 5, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to commend and thank the fans here at Third Quarter Collapse

After reading all the blog posts and responses at the Utah, Houston, and Denver blogs, it is clear that Magic fans are by far the most courteous and respectful of the bunch.

It is nice to come to a board where intelligent debate and rational analysis are used.

It is a shame when when fans throw out random insults and use illogical thinking to justify their attacks. There will always be a few bad apples in the bunch, but this place doesn’t seem to have any. Just passionate fans rooting for their team.

So thanks, Magic Fans

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by UnleashTheMamba on Jun 5, 2009 5:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well said, UTM

"Why not us... why not now?"

by Mike from Illinois on Jun 5, 2009 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the kind words.

.. that’s nice of you to say.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rafer and Peaches sucking from behind the arc hurt us big time

Obviously, our three main weapons putting up a sucktacular 6-27 from the field hurts more, but when Mickael Pietrus and Rafer Alston, our two streakiest, dodgiest shooters are taking 22 shots, 9 from three point land, it’s no wonder we were blown out.

Check out these eye-watering +/- numbers:

-23 when Pietrus was on the floor
-26 when Lewis was on the floor
-19 when Dwight was on the floor (to go with his 6FGA, that’s a terrible performance by him and the rest of the team) and also -19 when Jameer was in
-20 when Turk was in.

These numbers don’t tell the story, however, when Kobe goes into Mamba-mode, and we have no answer to even attempt to slow him down. Lee and Pietrus done everything they could and still he went off and took them over that plateau of no-return for us.

Getting the big men of the Lakers into foul trouble early and not capitalising is what galls me most in this loss.

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by big aaron on Jun 5, 2009 5:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, when Bryant goes into beast mode, there's nothing Orlando can do.

Just a poor effort from the Magic on a team-wide level. Lack of execution, no energy, etc.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jumpshooters (especially three point jumpshooters) are streaky

…and when the shot doesnt go down, you get what happened in Game 1. My fear though is that after months of being hot from downtown, the shooters maybe slipping into a funk. Also, the Lakers gauded Dwight very well and he struggled. By shutting Orlando’s inside and outside game and then having Bryant play with his urgency, The Magic never had a shot in this.
Although Stan can make adjustments I dont what in the team’s arsenal is there that we havent seen to remedy this.
Now its a question of will the Lakers play complacent like they did during certain streches of the playoffs. That’s the only way I see us in this…if not, I hate to say it but we maybe in for a sweep again.

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by Wasabi Steak on Jun 5, 2009 6:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Months of being hot from downtown?

.. that’s not correct. Orlando is shot a little higher than normal in the Cleveland series, but it was nothing ridiculous. For the season, the Magic shoot 39% from three .. the team shot 42% from three vs. the Cavs.

That’s not that big of a jump.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last night was an anomaly.

Orlando will not shoot below 30% again. It was the worst Orlando could have played and maybe the best L.A. could have played.
I’m not concerned about the shooting, but I am concerned about the energy. It seemed like L.A. got every loose ball and put a hand on way too many Magic passes. If they can bring more focus and energy, the Magic will be right back in it.

by Zack Magic on Jun 5, 2009 7:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Execution, execution, execution.

I certainly believe the Magic can and will play better. I don’t think, however, that what you saw (at least offensively) is the best the Lakers can play. The Lakers were largely out of the triangle offense for the most damaging stretch of the game, relying on a high pick and roll with Kobe and Bynum/Gasol. If Howard tries to adjust by pressing Kobe he either passes to Bynum/Gasol for an easy 2 (no weakside shot blockers after Howard) or he dribbles past Howard and either scores or draws a foul or both.

I think the Lakers played excellent defense on Howard and it will be interesting to see if SVG and Howard can respond in Game 2 to the Lakers doubling scheme (which was frankly brilliant). I expect some of those jumpers to drop and the Magic to execute better. Of course, I still expect the Lakers to win.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orlando will play better .. the team has no choice if they want to win the NBA Finals.

It’ll be tough, but if anyone can bounce back from a little adversity, it’s the Magic.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lakers can play better offensively, yes.

Defensively .. that’s the best I’ve seen L.A. play.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There were a few games, especially early in the season.

That was when the Lakers first unleashed the SSZ on the league and we just shell shocked teams. I’ll admit that I was thinking 70+ games easy seeing how badly we destroyed teams by during that stretch.

Of course, teams soon caught on and made the necessary adjustments. The Lakers had to tone down their traps and constant ball pressure; unfortunately, that kinda led to a lack of effort entirely. That was when the Lakers had that stretch where they were absolutely abysmal defensively and all the national media types were jumping on the “soft” label again.

The Lakers recovered but still, the defense that the Lakers run now is a watered down version of what they ran at the beginning of the season. I think that’s the main reason why, no matter how well they play, Laker fans always claim that they have an extra level. We, the fans, still remember those games of total domination and see that as how the Lakers should be playing, even if it’s unrealistic.

All that being said, yes this was a terrific, smart defensive effort from the Purple and Gold. The Lakers haven’t played at that level very often since December; luckily for us, they seem to be peaking again at the perfect time.

by Worthy J. on Jun 6, 2009 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I don't claim to be a Lakers expert by any means ..

.. but I’ve seen the team play a number of times this year and from a defensive standpoint, I can’t think of any game where Los Angeles played better. The execution was phenomenal.

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by erivera7 on Jun 6, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty bummed.

What bums me out the most, even with Kobe’s crazy night, was their impressive, impressive defense.

Shut up, Mo.

by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on Jun 5, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we just weren't banging with them down low

and they were cutting off our 3’s. Frustrating night.

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by UNFNOLE on Jun 5, 2009 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your sn brings back some happy memories.

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by Diosnomeama on Jun 5, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very impressive defense.

Aside from the Magic missing some open jumpers, the Lakers played excellent defensively.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need bigger bodies inside.

The Battie and Howard combo wasn’t working. Any chance we will see a Gortat or Howard combo? Or do they want to keep them off the floor at the same time?

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by UNFNOLE on Jun 5, 2009 8:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it.

The Magic need offense out on the court against the Lakers.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For having the best D in the league, we really can't contain the elite player

all year, we haven’t been able to guard elite SGs, then Lebron and Kobe go and hang personal postseason records on us. Honestly, enough about the poor shooting, it’s time we play a little defense, get down and dirty, throw a bow or a hard foul (not you Dwight) and show some grit.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The defense needs to improve, yeah.

.. and it all starts with Dwight Howard. His energy was poor last night.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well.. we werent making any shots, and we got alot of open shots… and some of that, I think, is the fact that our chemistry was blown when we brought in a guy who HASNT PLAYED A GAME IN THE PLAYOFFS, into the finals. Whether you like jameer or not is moot – he should not be playing. The point guard is the heart of the team. The fact that he is playing is a kick right in the balls of both anthony johnson and rafer alston. In my opinion, that is the stupidest move I have seen from any coach in a very long time. Jameer is one of my favourite players, but i dont think now is the time to bring in someone who hasnt played in 4 months to compete at the very highest level of highest levels of basketball.

by i2ambler on Jun 5, 2009 8:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think SVG stayed with him too long

Jameer hasn’t played in 4 months. And now he’s on the court for 23 minutes? I think SVG was hoping that after the good start, Jameer would continue to play that way the entire game. The problem of course is that he doesn’t have the fitness to play at a high level for long stretches of the game (he obviously has the skills). And I can only imagine what it has done to the (apparently) fragile psyche of Austin.

I think SVG was and is in a tough spot. If he doesn’t play Nelson and the Magic lose, then folks question why he didn’t play. If he does play Nelson and the Magic lose, then folks question why he played him so many minutes. I feel for you Magic fans. It will sort itself out over the next couple of days. Your Magic will respond with a better effort and execution in Game 2.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jameer isn't responsible

for Hedo and Rashard shooting the ball like it was covered with flesh-eating bacteria.

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by Diosnomeama on Jun 5, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, but what happened after the first

Hedo fell apart both his shot and mentally. That absurd attempt at drawing a three point foul, his passing, shot selection, decisions, were all off. And Rashard just took the day off.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, both players need to step it up .. and quickly.

Just a bad night for both of ’em.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't stage fright.

The Lakers took the Magic completely out of their game.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

E, how do you know it wasn't stage fright?

Like, what are you basing that on? The numerous NBA Finals games that the two have played in? In other words, why is it so out of the question that maybe they never settled down from being in the Finals? Are you that affirmative in regards to their emotions and what was going through their heads?

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right that I don't know 100%.

But as I said below, when Rashard explicitly states that wasn’t the issue, when Stan Van Gundy implies it wasn’t an issue, I believe them. The Magic lose because the Lakers played well, as you said, in nearly every facet of the game. That’s the story.

The lack of energy, the missed shots, no execution, the 56 points in the paint, etc.

That’s the story, in my opinion. I’m with SVG. I don’t believe in all this cliche psychological nonsense that the media tries to pander up after losses like these.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you using stage fright as an excuse or reason for losing Game 1

then you have problems. Stage fright is not a factor, and it’s lame to mention that. These are professionals in the Finals.

There is much more on the line for the Lakers.

by wondahbap on Jun 5, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't say that he was.

The Lakers played a better defensive scheme against the Magic than the Cavaliers, so all of those open threes weren’t there. Plus, the Lakers did an excellent job of not jacking up a lot of 3’s, which tend to lead to easy transition buckets.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren't the Lakers one of the worst teams in the NBA at defending the three?

Much worse than the Cavaliers at least, right?

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

They are the best in the post-season. Holding their opponents to 31% shooting from beyond the arc.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well they were the best.

Now tied with Orlando for 2-3 at 32%. Detroit is the best in the post-season.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, and regular season ?

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For some reason my reply didn’t attach directly to your message. Orlando and LA tied for 2-3 in opponents 3 pt shooting (34%). Cleveland was best in the league at 33%.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, don't know where I heard that LAL wasn't as good as CLE in defending the three.

Possibly BSPN, serves me right, they look to be as dead on similar as you can get.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the Lakers allow a high volume of 3's...

according to the experts that is almost as important as percentage.

by Blizzard on Jun 5, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it is if you take into account the opponent.

It’s extremely relevant against a team like the Magic.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BSPN?

I must have missed that joke.

by tandur on Jun 5, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BSPN...

a network that only reports all things Lebron, Celtics & Lakers.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Lakers hold opponents to an excellent percentage from three ..

.. but the thing is, L.A. gives up a TON of attempts. That’s the discrepancy.

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/05/31/death-by-three-for-the-lakers/

24% of the shot attempts Los Angeles allows is the three-point shot.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great point and nice article.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That .. doesn't really make sense.

Every team in the NBA plays the same teams during the season.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The same amount? That's not true.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, yeah, but still ..

.. every team plays the same teams, even if it is for different amounts due to conference affiliation and what not.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

West = faster paced, more 3 point shooting
East = slower pace, more inside scoring and jump shots

by tandur on Jun 5, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant in the grand scope of things.

Every team in the NBA plays the same teams. The differences in the amount, obviously, comes down to conference affiliations.

Just looking quickly at the data, 7 teams in the West ranked in the upper half of three-point shooting.

So the argument that the Lakers played a lot of bad three-point shooting teams doesn’t hold merit.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but

they DO play alot of teams that jack up the 3 point alot, but they play great defense at it.

by tandur on Jun 5, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

.. but there’s no denying that the Lakers give up a ton of attempts. The reason why L.A. is able to defend the three well is because of their athleticism, length, and so on & so forth.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like (1) you don’t watch a lot of Lakers games (because he’s done this before) and (2) he hasn’t performed in the Finals at this level because the mismatch was always at center when they played the East. He was putting up these kinds of numbers in the Western Conference when Shaq couldn’t go for 40.

But at the end of the day, you are right, the question is can the Lakers play at this level the entire series. Obviously, as a Lakers fan, I come down on that question differently than you. So we’ll just have to see who makes and executes down the road. One game does not a series make.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The issue with L.A. is can the team play like this consistently?

So far, the answer to that question has been no. For now, at least.

In any case, Orlando isn’t playing like it did last night again.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at the current trend (they played MUCH more consistently against Denver (save game 4), I would say that they can. But they earned that perception during rounds 1 and 2, so I can’t really argue with your position.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they can too, but again .. they need to prove it.

I need to see more than two games in a row. That’s not exactly confidence in the data set and the sample size.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's my thought also.

I was quite surprised that Nelson off to a great start leading the 2nd unit, but then Lakers went on the 6-0 run to erase the Magic lead, and in came the starters, and I was VERY surprised that Alston wasn’t among them. Nelson was good when he’s the focal point and running of offense, but when Hedo back on the court, he runs the show because that’s what he was so used to do when Nelson was out. From then on I kinda felt Magic just went out of sync, and can never get back to it. And then the second half came along, Alston might be forcing the issue a bit, perhaps because he felt his minutes are in jeopady.

It was just a bad idea leaving Nelson out for so long. He did well in short spurts, but his timing were just off, his dribbles were kinda bouncing strangely, and he was biting on all kinds of headfakes on defense.

by pcnyc on Jun 5, 2009 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree that Jameer is best served in spurts, not in extended minutes.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes

We saw him wear down. Interested to hear how he feels today.

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by Wmillion on Jun 5, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To me

It looked like the Magic were SO focused on not being overwhelmed by the big stage that they forgot it was the freakin’ Finals. When Rashard tapped the ball and then stood completely still and watched as it rolled 5ft out of bounds I was AMAZED. They need to kick up the aggressiveness about 11 notches. Good things follow aggressiveness in one way or another.

by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on Jun 5, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Orlando feeds off the energy of Dwight Howard and he wasn't on his game last night.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure why either.

Bynum is long and quicker then Z, but still shouldn’t be able to hold D-12. Dwight just has to go for his. The Gasol charge call took some air out of his sails

Can someone explain to me why no one cut when Dwight was getting double team in the low block? Everyone just stood at the 3 point line.. We have to attack the basket when he is getting doubled. A couple of easy dunks and the Lakers will have to adjust to us.

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by Wmillion on Jun 5, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, that was intersting
The Lakers, specifically Kobe played probably there best game of the entire season, nevermind postseason…but thats exactly what youre suppose to do.
I saw alot of what the celtics did to the lakers last night, but it was the lakers just dominating in every area against the magic.

The magic players also had a look on there face that they havent had in the postseason, and certainly not against the cavs…like a deer in headlights…worse then last years lakers.

another thing is, who do the magic have to defend kobe? we learned…nobody…a rookie who is smaller then him..yeah not happening….a fan of his (pietrus) ..yeah not happening

by ohc on Jun 5, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This was NOT the best game played by the Lakers all season.

I know that it sucks losing and you are looking for any silver lining possible, but this was not the best game the Lakers have played all year. Hell, it wasn’t as good as the last two games against Denver. Kobe took too many shots. Yes they went in, but that’s not a sign of a good offense. More touches from Gasol, Odom and others would be better. The Lakers can play better on offense. I don’t know if they can play any better on defense though.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You beat our Magic by 25 and it's your best game, got it!

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by Eyriq the Red on Jun 5, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that makes you feel better to say that, then I go right ahead.

Statistically, it wasn’t our best offensive game. The most complete game I’ve seen from the Lakers this post season were game 7 against Houston and game 6 against the Nuggets. This was a great defensive effort on our part, with a phenomenal offensive performance by Kobe for 2 quarters. But if you think this is the best the Lakers have to offer, be my guest.

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

overall, the Lakers offense was subpar, average at best. Kobe was the fuel that helped the Lakers win. The difference between say.. Kobe going for 40 and Lebron going for 40 is… the rest of the Lakers did just enough to make this a big win. If Orlando plays any better offensively (make a couple of those wide open 3s, for example), this game is ALOT closer, despite Kobe’s 40. And if the Lakers missed a couple more shots they made, suddenly Orlando would have won.

The rest of the Lakers can play much better. Despite the points in the paint difference, this was mostly due to Kobe and inside passing that took advantage of Magic defensive breakdowns. In straight up sets, the Lakers bigs could not score against the Magic who packed the paint. I expect better production from Gasol especially. The games in Orlando are going to be key for a bigs, because I don’t expect many jumpshots to fall in Games 3 & 4 as players get used to the crowd and sightlines.

by tandur on Jun 5, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to agree.

I’ve seen the Lakers play many times this season and this was not the team’s best effort on offense, from an overall sense. Kobe went off and Lamar Odom played an excellent game off the bench, but the other Los Angeles players played relatively minor roles in the win.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they didn't have to

Kobe did everything. They were all getting high quality looks..

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by Wmillion on Jun 5, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Kobe scored 40% of there points.Was involved in almost every play.

Like LeBron but the Magic’s attack just fell apart. The other guys for the Lakers didn’t have big numbers but they were halfway efficient. Big thing was the rebounding we got blasted.

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by Surfdog on Jun 5, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude, its easily the best ive almost ever seen kobe play (people act like he does this all the time and every move he makes constantly gets glorified) but in reality, he almost never has performances like last nights, and never has in the finals(been there 6 times and never, ever, EVER played that good).
The defense was also as good as its been all year….Lets see if the lakers play better then that the rest of the series, because im gonna say no, aint happening

by ohc on Jun 5, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand what you're saying

But you need to realize that the majority of times he was in the finals he was on a STACKED LAKERS TEAM that quite easily can be counted as one of the top teams of all time. So he had no need to perform at this level or do the things he did against Orlando in game one.

Don’t forget he was not the focal point of the triangle, Shaq was, and the team had very skilled, veteran role players who understood their roles and played them perfectly.

I guess what i’m trying to say is this is not the best i’ve seen this Lakers team play, I rate game 7 against Houston, game 6 against Denver, the 2 games against Boston and Cleveland respectively in the regular season as the best we’ve played.

Come to think of it the way the team started out in the first 10 games of the year was at a higher level than this.

Anyways good luck to the Magic, but there can be only one and hopefully it’s the Lakers.

by wayde_316 on Jun 5, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Maybe I'll let Marcin Gortat off the hook"

I’ll include JJ Reddick the “Kobe Stopper.”

SVG should play him more, if only to bait Kobe to try to score on him every time. I think Kobe asked Phil Jackson to put him back in the game just so he can score on JJ. Which he tried and failed :) Yeah, something positive for the Magic, JJ outscored Kobe 3-2 going head to head :)

Btw, I am actually serious about putting JJ on Kobe, why not.

by pcnyc on Jun 5, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Magic continue to struggle offensively, SVG may need to put in J.J. for offensive purposes.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nelson was fine and I'm not putting this on him

This goes squarely on Lewis. Odom owned him and we can’t have that happen and still hope to win.

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by Eyriq the Red on Jun 5, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont think you can put it on anyone specifically…certainly not shard

and as an outsider looking in, Jameer shouldve played 5 minutes at a time, and a total of 10 minutes tops..
I just dont understand in one of the biggest games of your franchises history you put a guy out there for an entire 2nd quarter when he hasnt played in 4 months, his conditiong is off, as is his entire game…and the PG rotation of alston/johnson got you there…if it aint broke, why i gods name are you trying to fix it?

by ohc on Jun 5, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree. I think it’s already gotten into Alston’s head (based on his post-game comments).

by MambaFan on Jun 5, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's one game.

I give credit to Stan Van Gundy for not taking the easy road and simply sit Jameer Nelson to avoid some criticism that could go his way had the Magic lost last night. That’s not SVG’s style.

I would agree that ‘Meer is best used in spurts .. his minutes weren’t handled correctly. That’s all.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the minutes Nelson played help in the long run.

No matter what, Alston can’t hurt us the way Jameer can. The ceiling is higher. I don;t care how well Rafer is playing. You need Jameer and for the Magic, it was good to immerse him.

by wondahbap on Jun 5, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Lamar is an x-factor for the Lakers.

When he’s on his game, Los Angeles becomes extremely difficult to beat.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lamar

He is a great front runner, Lamar in the clutch not so bueno. If you count on him he will fail, if you forget about him he will kill you.

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by Wmillion on Jun 5, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as Comic Book Guy would say

worst. game. ever. ( ._.)

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Hooray for Simpson's references!

Release the robotic Richard Simmons!

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by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on Jun 5, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to comment later about the game but I want to say this.

.. the “stage fright” issue for the Magic? Drop it. If Orlando had stage fright, as Kelly Dwyer pointed out, the team wouldn’t have had a 2 point lead after the first quarter and a 5 point lead in the second quarter before Los Angeles stormed back and look control of the game. The Magic missed shots against the Lakers, etc.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

You don;t make it to the Finals and get stage fright.

by wondahbap on Jun 5, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good first game

As a Lakers fan, there’s plenty to love, and plenty to NOT love, in Game 1. I missed the entire first quarter, and only came into the game as the Magic built their early 5 point lead. After that, I thought the refs gave the Lakers some questionable calls that kept them in the game, then the Triple Ocho suddenly woke up, and it was essentially game over from that point on.

First off, I felt the Magic played the Lakers P&R poorly. While they played this same play from Cleveland great, the Lakers have more talent and better shooters, both inside and outside, to surround Kobe, than the Cavs have to surround Lebron. This is obvious. So Orlando chose to stay at home on the perimeter, and pack the paint if Kobe turned the corner against Pietrus or Lee, both who were completely overmatched. Pietrus, who played LBJ fantastic in the last series, just doesn’t have the foot speed to match Kobe. Several times, I saw Kobe nearly break his ankles with a 13 year old cross over.

However, someone above mentioned maybe trapping Kobe to prevent these drives, which is a likely possibility. However, as my evidence to refute this strategy, look at Games 5 & 6 in the Denver series. The Nuggets attempted to trap Kobe on every pick or isolation, and he burned them by finding the release valve, and this would lead to wide open jumpers that the Lakers knocked down.

On the flip side, the Lakers D, while great inside, was nothing special on the perimeter. Although I felt the Hedo P&R defense was better than usual, the close out on the perimeter shooters went from lazy to over enthusiastic. Although when the Lakers chose not to close out (a bad habit they’ve had ALL SEASON), the Magic missed the shots, on the energetic close outs (see Ariza or Odom), Orlando did a good job of attacking the defender and getting a decent pull up jumper.

While overall, Orlando shot itself in the foot with poor shooting, I still felt like they had a chance if not for Kobe. Because overall, our vaunted front court played subpar. No one could get decent looks inside except for on defensive breakdowns. Odom, Gasol, and Bynum were not overly effective on the offensive end. Despite getting 60 points from his teammates, I still wasn’t overly impressed with any offensive set the Lakers ran that Kobe wasn’t involved in.

Right now, I feel the Lakers are a team of focus. When they set their minds to it, they can play great defense, and unfathomable offense. In 3 straight games now, the Lakers have played great basketball. Combine these with their showings versus Cleveland and Boston in the regular season, and you can possibly see why the Lakers are so favored in this series. Take out the two Orlando games, as I don’t believe the Lakers gave the Magic any respect that early in the season, especially in comparison to the Celtics and Cavs games.

I’ll come back with some breakdowns of those games, plus other major Lakers “focus” games, such as Games 5 & 7 of the Houston series, and 5 & 6 of the Denver series.

I’m sure I’m going to find impressive defensive numbers, as well as rebounding rates.

by tandur on Jun 5, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

some player thoughts

also meant to put this in:

Lee/Pietrus versus Kobe – Great defense by the two, but you can’t do anything when he’s pretty much making almost any shot he wants. Don’t expect many more great shooting nights from Kobe, however. Only 1 or 2, maybe 3 at most. However…

As stated in the recap, by putting Pietrus on Kobe, you force Lee to defend Luke Walton. Even Hedo defending Walton isn’t a great option. While Walton is NOT a point machine, the man plays like a PF in a SF’s body. He’s very capable in the post, and Lee doesn’t have the body to stop him, and Hedo just doesn’t have the skills to play post D.

Lewis vs. Gasol/Odom – I felt like the Gasol/Lewis matchup was pretty much a wash, Gasol got most of his rebounds while at center, so take the rebounding difference between the two with a grain of salt. But… Odom is a beast when facing Lewis. While the two may be the same physically, have the same speed, etc… Odom is just two strong. Several times I saw him completely back Lewis under the basket, and Rashard could do nothing. On the other end, Odom is very capable of chasing Lewis off the basket and still recovering to prevent any decent drives to the hoop. For those saying Lewis would outplay “Odumb”… think again.

Gortat – great game. Wish our nobodies played that decent all the time.

Howard – only 6 shots? 5 offensive rebounds? gotta bring the A game, Superman. That wasn’t even close. Bynum is NOT that good, don’t give him confidence. Beause with Drew, it’s all about confidence, and if you get him believing in himself, this series is over.

by tandur on Jun 5, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stage fright or not,

This is the first time in this post season that the Magic just doesn’t look comfortable out there. Playing the 76ers, Magic didn’t play well but it’s more like 76ers are pesky and kept bothering Magic. Then against the Celts Magic almost always have the upper hand except for game2 when they mailed it in after game1 win (that and the game5 meltdown at the end). Against the Cavs, Magic were down HUGE in all 3 road games but you could tell that the players were not worried at all, they knew they are better and they just quietly worked their way back.

But last night Magic was just off. I think it’s a combination of having a bad shotting night, stage fright (not in the sense that they didn’t start well, they did, but maybe in the sense that once the Lakers made their run, Magic got a bit tighter than usual), and not used to the length of the Lakers defenders. Those, and the players just didn’t seem as confident against this Lakers squad a full strengh vs Cavs who Magic has numbers/Celts sans Garnett/76ers not as good. I mean, Magic players were scrambling pretty much all 2nd half like they did in last 5 minutes of game5 vs Celts, and it’s not just the shots bouncing off the rim, but passes were off target, passing off shots that normally would take, etc.

I am rambling. Anyway, I think Magic finally met their match (and maybe then some). Time to find out if the Magic is as tough as they keep saying they are.

by pcnyc on Jun 5, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it was stage fright, per se, but Orlando was just taken out of their game by Los Angeles.

Credit the Lakers defensively for executing a great gameplan and forcing the Magic to not play their game.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See my response to your "it wasn't stage fright" comment

I’d like to know what you are basing the end-all comment of, “it isn’t stage fright” on. How can you honestly say that, how can any of us really know what they’re feeling without channeling their emotions? None of us can, so no one can say whether it’s stage fright or not, but if you want to look at stats, the stats would prove that only Anthony Johnson isn’t going through stage fright. I mean Dwight made one FG, one out of six attempts? Rashard shot 20% Turk, 27% For three GREAT players, who have never played in a finals game before, the first thing I would think would be maybe these guys are a little stage fright, why is that IMPOSSIBLE to think?

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 5, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe and rather take Rashard's word for it.

He stated explicitly that it wasn’t stage fright, but an issue of giving up 56 points in the paint, etc.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shard was scared IMO

He had a couple easy lanes to the hole, decided to take pull up jumpers missed them all. He has to go the hole, he plays so small.

Shard has to learn how to get it going when the 3 isn’t falling. You don’t pay a guy 100 million to just shoot 3’s.

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by Wmillion on Jun 5, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it was more intimidation than being scared, in my opinion.

Intimidation in the sense that the Lakers did a great job of not allowing the Magic to get easy buckets when penetrating into the lane. Los Angeles contested .. almost everything.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember 3 occasions Rashard had a fairly

Clear path to the basket and he either pulled up or didn’t go the hole strong.

In the end the pull-ups he usually makes didn’t fall. I have never seen the basketball rattle in and out so much as it did for us last night.

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by Wmillion on Jun 5, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orlando was just out of sync last night.

.. a lot of trends pointed to the Magic having a disappointing game. The defensive problem in Game 1’s, the rest day efficiency problem, Just a bad game.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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