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NBA Finals Game 1 Open Thread: Second Half

At halftime of Game 1 in the 2009 NBA Finals, the Los Angeles Lakers lead the Orlando Magic, 53-43. The Lakers are shooting a blistering 52.1% from the field, and lead despite making only 1 three-pointers and 2 free throws. Orlando is a dismal 14-of-39 from the field for 35.9%. Hedo Turkoglu (11 points, 3-of-6 shooting) and Jameer Nelson (4 points, 2-of-4 shooting, 4 assists) are the lone bright spots for the Magic, who are looking to win their first NBA Finals game in 5 tries as a franchise.

Use this thread to comment about the second half, which is about to get underway.

UPDATE: the game recap is now posted. Please comment in that thread. The comment section of this post is now closed.

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Hey guys,

Let’s see how we do out of this half.

by fwedo on Jun 4, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Bryant just beasting right now.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Howard is attacking the bigs, as he should.

To get Bynum and Gasol in foul trouble.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is dead

they’re all zombies

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Jun 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howard battling down there .. 3 on Odom.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

not good

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lakers' size is bothering him, a bit.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just need to keep plugging away.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah .. need to wake up soon.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orlando looks 'off' on offense ..

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Hedo, foolish

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno, but Hedo didn't even complain, and he ALWAYS complains.

Must have just lost control.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he just lost the ball.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

.. going to have to start double-teaming more.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do they CONTINUE to yell MVP?

Don’t they know Lebron a;ready won it this year?!

by blue-blood on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

well he was MVP last year

and they want to make sure nobody ever forgets everrrrr

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same reason Orlando fans chanted MVP for Howard.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big three.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Need to play defense.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay Lee

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Good job Lee

D Fence pleez

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Peaches coming in

hope he changed his shoes

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Jun 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I heard he was wearing the Kobe's the entire time .. weird.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

well crap

now we just have to blame his crappy play on him

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Jun 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes he is, he said he was going to wear Jordans.

I’m a huge Jordan head, those are no J’s.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

LATTTTE foul call on Rashard

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

WOW

Gasol hopped to the basket but gets the foul

I'm a girl.

by TheGiantSquid on Jun 4, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL at that call

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

God, the Lakers are just so talented.

I do know though, that at any time we can come back.

by fwedo on Jun 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Real talented, but the Magic can still come back.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 of 18 from 3's when you live on them has A LOT to do with them.

We shot 46% in the cavs series, if we were shooting that tonight, we’d be tied, or close to it.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

42%, actually.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

.. Orlando shot 39% for the season, not much of a deviation.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, we shot 42% against the Cavs, 39% for the regular season and 29% tonight?

That’s a pretty big deviation.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tonight? Yeah, it is.

.. Magic are missing some open shots.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly i'm pretty confident

we are only down 11 after playing absolutely horrible

by matthan on Jun 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

um, if they don't turn it around, what does it matter?

They could be done 4, but playing this shitty won’t help overcome that.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not confident in all.

The Lakers are 100 times better then the Cavs, we aren’t going to magically come back.

by jackhammerslam on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Magic getting the looks .. just not going down, yet.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't buy a bucket.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Kobe on fire.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you see the 2 women on the replay

didn’t even change their face when Kobe made that shot.

by fwedo on Jun 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw that. Hilarious.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howard dropped his elbow .. 3 on Dwight.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Not doing good

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, boy.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Lakers are clicking on offense ..

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang it

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Lakers content giving Rafer that shot.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lakers blasting the Magic with excellent execution on offense.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

.. but to be fair, this is the Lakers.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think we can make a run if we start running our offense

We literally have no ball movement. Start making the extra pass guys.

And Rafer stop shooting.

by matthan on Jun 4, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, it's all been dumps and kick outs. No pick & rolls.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're missing OPEN shots . . .

It’s not like the Lakers are DOMINATING us with their defense. They’re just hitting EVERYTHING on offense.

by blue-blood on Jun 4, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I would agree.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not gonna lie

the caps get a little old. Comments are good, but it can be lower case :)

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Magic getting looks .. not knocking shots down.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Lakers in the penalty. Good way to chip away at the lead .. get to the free-throw line.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Dayum Kobe

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Lakers are playing really good basketball ..

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

That was Jordan-esque

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Kobe is just taking over.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

no he isn't

come on we have 52 points with 3 minutes left in the 3rd

by matthan on Jun 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes he is.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's all folks.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Kobe is .. playing out of his mind.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jameer clapping for Kobe

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I know it's a bad reason to hate the Lakers

but I really only hate them because of the fans.

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the team

I like most of the players, but I don’t like the fans and I don’t like Phil Jackson

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

what’s wrong with the fans? i am a lakers fan? what’s wrong with the lakers’ fans? that’s a first. we are probably the most laid-back fans in the nba. peaceful…

by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

*shrugs*

I don’t have a problem with the fans. I like L.A.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks ER

The Faker and L*ker shticks get a bit tiring, I have to admit. Anyone who’s taken a look at FB&G or SSnR knows Laker fans of the blogosphere are as respectful and intelligent as any fan base out there.

by Snoopy2006 on Jun 5, 2009 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

I’ve spent time in the city and I liked it. Reminded me of Orlando, actually.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

As far as cities go, though

I’ll take Chicago over any other anyday :-)

by Snoopy2006 on Jun 5, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hah. Well, that's my current city of residence!

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bah .. and the fact PJax is 43-0 when his teams win Game 1's in a series.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

This is much, much different in my opinion.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not doubting Orlando, I'm just pointing out a stat.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a depressing stat though

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No sportscenter until Sunday...

it’s going to be all, “jump shooting, three point shooting teams can’t win in the Finals!”

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Offense is raping us this game

We are so bad on the offensive end. God its pathetic right now

by matthan on Jun 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha another horrible possesion

Magic look at the Lakers. They do something called “passing the ball”

by matthan on Jun 4, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jameer back in.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

.. well, he's been in.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lakers are clicking on all cylinders offensively.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

25 pt!

Just ain’t our night fellas!

:(

by blue-blood on Jun 4, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Game 2 is gonna be huge

hopefully we find our stroke

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay Kobe, no need to argue over fouls when

A) You are shooting a ton

B) You’re up 25 points.

by fwedo on Jun 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

.. he's in a competitive zone right now.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Magic playing with no energy.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugly, ugly game.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Christ its the NBA finals

Why the hell would they be removed? Jameer yes, but the starters? Hell no

by matthan on Jun 4, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um, down 30 with 12 minutes to go?

Sorry bud, don’t think coming back is attainable here. Don’t want Dwight to get technical #6 is why the hell he’d be removed.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunate

turn the page for game 2. No reason to give up at all

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This wasn't even a collapse.

Lakers just outplayed the Magic in the third quarter.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

in a way it's a collapse

letting the lead get that big

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess .. Magic were already in a deficit.

When I think of collapse, I think of Orlando giving up a lead.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you're right there

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My mother right now:

“Wow, the Magic suck!”

…i’ve never given my mother a dirtier look.

by fwedo on Jun 4, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Hah.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have no shot in this series if we play offense like this

Kobe and his crew are going to get theirs. We need to get ours. This was projected to be a 205 ppg type affair.

by matthan on Jun 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Orlando needs to pick up drastically on offense.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The magic havent had a look of confidence on there faces tonight…and they either have to much repsect for kobe, or are his fans, I dont know..but you cant be that way when playing him

by ohc on Jun 4, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Orlando isn't playing with energy, either.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you guys feel Nelson has played so far?

Do you think he is messing with the chemistry? Alston only has 19 minutes and 6 points, not really contributing like he has in the playoffs

by Longorious on Jun 4, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

No, not really. Nelson hasn't been the problem.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s been better than Alston

by Fundefined on Jun 4, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely messing with the chemistry

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by gametime_gsw on Jun 4, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he's not.

.. Magic are missing shots and the Lakers are executing on offense, almost to perfection.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So great in fact you have to think it might reverse a little in Game 2

Even though this isn’t Cleveland

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Game 2 is

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better hope, or else this series could be over in a hurry.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

need moar JJ

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Everything going right for L.A. tonight.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

We need to steal Odom's candy

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Magic look terrible on offense .. terrible.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Missing shots and messing with the team chemistry are 2 different issues

Like it or not, Alston was working well in the playoffs. Not that I don’t want to see Nelson on the floor, but I don’t think it was a good idea to activate him and it may cost us this series

by Longorious on Jun 4, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It's one game.

Can’t come to conclusions like that so quickly.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he hasn't been the problem tonight.

Orlando’s effort has been terrible .. awful, really.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been part of the problem, sure.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll make adjustments .. the Magic will need to execute.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, let's hope this blow out doesn't deflate them totally.

I mean, this organization can’t afford another Finals sweep.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Orlando will be okay .. especially with SVG. He's no Brian Hill.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chemistry and Grit!

Seriously Nelson has nothing to do with it. The problem has been missing tons of shots. Previously we’ve been making so many of these shots.

Christ we have like 4 or 5 airballs? I know Nelson, Turk, and Pietrus all have one

by matthan on Jun 4, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

no since in playing the starters down 25-30 with 8 minutes to go

I mean Dwight can pick up #6, Pietrus nearly broke every bone in his body on that fall, Jameer, a whole slew of things can go wrong in a blow out. Remove starters, now.

"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston

by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

meant to read... no sense*

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 4, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

SVG will probably take 'em out in a few minutes.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take it easy.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never, never bounce from a game early but I'll need to tonight with plans I need to attend to.

Take it easy, everyone. It’s a long series .. Orlando just needs to bounce back in Game 2.

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by erivera7 on Jun 4, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I try to be optimistic, but I think this game is done and I better hit the sack soon

Hopefully we can bounce back in Game 2. No reason to give up yet, LA is a really good team. I think with some adjustments we can “steal” one from them in game 2. Peace guys.

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by ratherfantastic on Jun 4, 2009 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn...

Got in late to see the game.

Suprising result. Looks like my worst fear was confirm. Orlando was just happy to be there and the Lakers are on a mission.

Looks like in the 2nd and 3rd they got hit in the mouth. Damn…..

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by Wasabi Steak on Jun 4, 2009 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

We could be swept....

:(

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Kristin Kreuk is teh love.

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by Wasabi Steak on Jun 4, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

SHUT UP MAN!!

Don’t mention those words in here!!!

by blue-blood on Jun 4, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know what's going on here. It's a conspiracy theory.

The Magic are allowing LA to dominate so they think they’ll coast, then we lay the hammer down in Game 2. That or we abduct Kobe

by Longorious on Jun 4, 2009 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Well I'm out too

Time to drown my sorrows with some more Natty Light

by Longorious on Jun 4, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

This one hurts.

No one brought their A game tonight…

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by North of the South on Jun 4, 2009 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

less than 30% from the field is depressing.

Good thing is they can’t get much worse than this.

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by North of the South on Jun 4, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

nelson messed up the chemistry.

by chaucer on Jun 4, 2009 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

If you were Rafer and you carried the team to the Finals

and the team tells you that you have to step aside for a player that hasn’t played in 4 months and in the Finals he gets to play ONLY about two minutes less than you do, how much cofidence do you think your team has in you? Thank you for making that decision SVG!

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jun 4, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right...

I think it disrupted the flow of the offense for the Magic. They should’ve stuck with Rafer.

by BallerBabe on Jun 4, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rafer was killing EVERYONE

before the announcement came but everyone kept thinking that Jameeer was going to kill the Lakers but what no one remembers is that at the time Fisher was the only PG the Lakers had beause Farmar was out and Fisher had been avg about 41 mins a game. Now he has to deal with Farmar and S. Brown which he didn’t have to before. My guess is that his minutes are going to be diminished and the Magic are going mostly with Alston.

by PURPLE AND GOLD FOR LIFE on Jun 5, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rafer wasn't killing "everyone" .. he had good games here and there, but that's about it.

No one expected Jameer to come back and “kill the Lakers” .. that’s incorrect. As my colleague Ben pointed out, it was to be expected for Nelson to not be 100%. That’s common sense.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jameer wasn't the issue.

.. again, the problem was much larger in scope.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rafer didn't "carry" the team to the Finals .. he helped, but he wasn't the main cog.

It’s not about the Magic not having confident in Alston. It’s about upgrading from Anthony Johnson to Jameer Nelson, which is what Stan Van Gundy and Orlando felt was the right move to make.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't waste your energy, eddy

“it’s jameer’s fault” is the knee jerk reaction of the night.

contributing nothing substantial to your blog, since 2008!

by misterterrific on Jun 5, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose.

.. it’s a shame it has to come to that type of assertion when it’s inaccurate.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, he didn't.

Orlando played terrible tonight, more so offensively than defensively. That’s not Jameer’s fault.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give credit to the Laker defense!

It isn’t a coincidence that ALL the Magic players shot poorly. The Lakers defense did that. The Magic weren’t used to playing with 7 footers running out at the and challenging their shots. L.A. has too many guys with size to go at Dwight and plenty of big guards to contest all those 3’s. It was dissappointing to see the Magic’s body language in the 3rd quarter too. This is it boys, gotta keep it together.

by BallerBabe on Jun 4, 2009 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

It's one game...

…The Magic should use it as motivation to win in Game 2.

I don’t think playing Nelson was a mistake. He might have messed up team chemistry a bit, but the team came apart in quarter 3, when Alston was on the floor.

Alston needs to know that the team has confidence in him.

Lewis needs to use his quickness to drive to the basket. (And Stan needs to create openings for him off screens.)

Pietrus needs to settle down.

The Magic can bounce back strong.

by gift of the magi on Jun 5, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

i warned some of you magic fans not to become overconfident. i said that kobe bryant is on a mission; he’s out to to win a title and there was no stopping him. i said it would be a very tough task for the magic; someone responded by laughing saying that so many said the same of lebron james. kobe is not lebron. kobe is the best. he’s a killer. check out this song by lil wayne named kobe bryant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4_Fdy-ECyw

ps
not rubbing it in your faces. i still love my boy dwight howard. another year for the magic, this one is reserved for the lakers.

by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think anyone here was overconfident.

I stated that many times that everyone knew how difficult beating the Lakers would be.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

My take: it was 80% Orlando missing their open looks from distance.

You live by the jumpshot, you die by the jumpshot. Tonight they didn’t fall. Next time they probably will.

Production from the front line was the other 20% — Dwight + Hedo + Rashard need to put up a really large percentage of the offense. None of the three got on track tonight.

It’s just one game in a long series.

Good luck Sunday.

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by timbo on Jun 5, 2009 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

surely the magic are much better than this. they had game 1 nerves. it’s normal, especially for a young team. expect them to bounce back. i don’t expect this series be a cake-walk for the lakers. it should be tough, but in the end we shall prevail.

by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

and guys, it looked obvious to me that nelson didn’t look phsycially well. he seems to be in pain.

by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Goes to show you...

Regular season games mean nothing. You beat the Lakers by 3 and 6 points and come into the Finals to lose by 25? Hmmm

by BallerBabe on Jun 5, 2009 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

No one expected for there to be a carryover from the regular season to the postseason.

The circumstances are different, the teams are different, etc. In any case, it’s one game. Have to move on.

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by erivera7 on Jun 5, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game 2 will be very different.

They need more dribble penetration and ball movement, and less jumpers and pointless 3pointers. I find it hard to believe that the Lakers defense made them shoot .299 from the field… some of that was the Magic’s poor shot selection. Also 1-6 from Dwight, 10 of 12 of his points came from the freethrow line? ouch. I hope I don’t see something like that ever again. And it isn’t like we lost cause of Dwight today, no player in a Magic uniform did a good job tonight.

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by North of the South on Jun 5, 2009 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

The Magic won't shoot 29% again

Not trying to discredit the Lakers D, but there were still plenty of breakdowns and open 3’s the Magic normally hit.

Most people predicted that it’d take a game for the Magic to adjust to the Finals stage. I think that’s what you saw tonight. They were a little bit tight, execution just wasn’t there. Dwight early on tried to do too much and didn’t kick the ball out when the help came. SVG will point out these mistakes and you’ll likely see better ball movement and execution.

I was shocked by how much Pau struggled. The numbers won’t reflect it, but Pau got his points on bunnies or jumpshots. He absoutely carved up Scola and Martin offensively, but couldn’t do so against the Magic because they packed the paint defensively.

by Snoopy2006 on Jun 5, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Will SVG trap Kobe on the PnR?

Kobe used the screens as a scoring option to get to his spots on the floor and get separation. I’m curious if SVG will play Kobe more aggressively on those. I’m actually hoping for it, because it’ll put Pau in a position to distribute and require a 3rd defender on screen. Lamar does a fantastic job of cutting in those situations, so it may open up the entire Lakers offense.

by Snoopy2006 on Jun 5, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

quite frankly, i was very surprised at how the magic played. i was very nervous after the first quarter, for they were shooting the lights out. don’t know what happened after that. this is the worst game i’ve seen them play in these playoffs. they are much better than this. they’re gonna come out on fire on sunday. lakers have to be ready and careful not to get complacent.

by chaucer on Jun 5, 2009 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

and with that, gents...

I’ll be flying back to HI. I only ask that the Magic make it a series.

I was very impressed with Jameer’s play. I think however, having him in for that length of time screwed up the rythym. I don’t think he has the feel for the offense that Rafer has right now, as far as where and when people are going to be. I think giving him plenty of time tonight was fine when it became an obvious loss, and I hope he becomes a real factor by game 3 or 4.

The Magic need a fresh start. They’re pretty resilient, and I think they’ll pull themselves together. I think we’ve got a much more tested and mature team than got swept by Houston 14 years ago. I expect game 2 to look more like the team we’ve been watching for the last few weeks.

I’ll be on a lot mroe when I get home. This vacation hasn’t been much of a vacation.

Cheers,

Chief

by farfromfl on Jun 5, 2009 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

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