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Orlando Magic Acquire Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson: What it Means on the Court and in the Ledger

Thursday afternoon, the Orlando Magic made a blockbuster deal with the New Jersey Nets to acquire 8-time All-Star shooting guard Vince Carter. The former Daytona Mainland High star is coming home, along with power forward Ryan Anderson. Orlando sent point guard Rafer Alston and power forward Tony Battie--whose contracts expire next summer--to New Jersey along with shooting guard Courtney Lee, upon whose inclusion in the deal the Nets insisted. After the jump, a look at how the trade impacts the Magic, both on the court and in the pocketbook.

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On the Court

It's hard to name anyone more qualified to comment on the Magic's style of play than head coach Stan Van Gundy. In this evening's news conference--which featured team President/C.E.O. Bob Vander Weide, GM Otis Smith, Carter, and Van Gundy--the coach discussed what Carter brings to the team that it didn't have before.

"[W]e really didn't have a guy who you could give him the ball up top, on the wing, at the elbow, one-on-one and go get a shot or draw a second defender. We had out of pick-and-rolls or out of post-ups, I think with Vince, you can give him the ball anywhere on the floor and he can isolate and create a shot either for himself or for a teammate on his own.

"Plus, if you look at the numbers like we do all the time and I don't think that he's got enough credit for this, Vince has been throughout his career, one of the best fourth quarter and end-of-game guys in this league, in terms of production. He's been a guy that has always come through down the stretch in games. I think that's huge."

Curious that the two things Van Gundy mentions--shot-creation and end-of-game scoring--are what the Magic previously relied on Hedo Turkoglu to do. Orlando might not have been able to re-sign Turkoglu, who will opt-out of his contract on July 1st, so dealing for Carter ensures the Magic will have a productive scorer on the wings next season. Indeed, Carter's responsibilities will largely include things Hedo did during the last 2 years in Orlando, and Carter does those things better. It's hard to argue otherwise. For instance, look at how the two stack-up in terms of clutch production last season:

Vince Carter and Hedo Turkoglu Clutch Statistics, 2008/2009 NBA Season
Vince Carter profile picture photo
Carter
Hedo Turkoglu profile picture photo
Turkoglu
34.3 Points/48 26.6
5.5 Rebounds/48 9.3
4.3 Assists/48 3.6
3.4 Turnovers/48 1.4
50.0 FG% 35.7
50.0 3FG% 20.0
85.0 FT% 88.0
Statistics from 82games.com, which defines "clutch" as "4th quarter or overtime, less than 5 minutes left, neither team ahead by more than 5 points."

While Turk contributes more rebounds and fewer turnovers, Carter scores at a much more efficient rate. And, empirically, he is a much more lethal offensive player than Turkoglu, no matter the score or situation. He is, in other words, an upgrade.

I mention Turkoglu as though he's already out the door. He's not, officially, and his agent says he and the Magic will remain in touch. But it's hard to imagine the Magic being able to retain Turkoglu in addition to filling all their other roster holes. We'll discuss the finances momentarily, because there's the matter of covering the other player Orlando received in this deal.

That's Ryan Anderson, a sweet-shooting power forward in the Brian Cook mold, who was high on Orlando's draft board last season. New Jersey snapped him up with the 21st pick. The Magic snagged Lee with the 22nd pick, which worked out well for them. Comparisons to Cook won't go over too well in Orlando, where he bombed, but Anderson's range will go a long way toward ensuring the team is able to space the floor at all times. Here's Van Gundy on Anderson:

"I think another part of this deal with Ryan Anderson was crucial. I think what we had, and you guys watched it this year, was when Rashard [Lewis] came out of the game and we went to the bench, we really had to play a different way because we then could not spread the floor out. And when we tried to move Rashard back to the three, you couldn't stretch the floor with your four, so he couldn't get any room and now you get another guy that can really stretch the floor, and I think it gives us even more flexibility to both swing Rashard back to the three or when Rashard is back on the bench getting a rest, which he didn't get much of, we can play the same way. So I think that's crucial as well."

So Anderson will replace Battie--the "your four" in Stan's comments--as the Magic's primary reserve power forward. Despite his rep as strictly a three-point shooter, Anderson can hit the boards. He grabbed a tidy 14.1% of available rebounds when on the floor last season, compared to 13.0% for Battie. So Anderson is an upgrade over Battie in two ways: he spaces the floor and he rebounds at a slightly better rate.

The trouble with Anderson? His complete inability to finish at the rim. Anderson converted only 39.3% of his shots within 6 feet of the basket, and had an astonishing 30% of his shots blocked in that range. That part of his game is a work-in-progress. Fortunately, he's a mere 21-years-old, which means there's plenty of time for him to bulk up and improve his inside touch.

That's the thing: the outside touch is okay. His effective field goal percentage of 50.6% on jumpers is roughly in line with Lewis' (52.6%) and a vast improvement over Battie's (41.0%). So even without a great interior game, Anderson can help the Magic on offense. He's a solid role-player, and by no means a stiff.

Finances

Here's where it gets tricky. Orlando has only the following 8 players under contract next season. Bear in mind that the NBA minimum is 13 players, and the luxury-tax threshold is estimated to be $69 million:

2009/2010 Orlando Magic Salaries, as of June 26th, 2009
Rashard Lewis $18,010,791
Vince Carter $16,123,250
Dwight Howard $15,202,590
Jameer Nelson $7,700,000
Mickael Pietrus $5,300,000
J.J. Redick $2,839,408
Anthony Johnson $2,062,800
Ryan Anderson $1,317,120
TOTAL$68,555,959

And the projected depth chart, which makes the cupboard look even more bare:

2009/2010 Orlando Magic Projected Depth Chart, as of June 26th, 2009
PGSGSFPFC

Jameer Nelson
Vince Carter profile picture photo
Vince
Carter

Mickael Pietrus

Rashard Lewis

Dwight Howard

Anthony Johnson

J.J.
Redick
?
Ryan
Anderson
?
? ? ? ? ?

There's no question that the Magic will have to pay the luxury tax next year. That was a given even before the Carter trade, when management indicated it would pay the tax if it meant bringing a championship to Orlando. The Magic will need to fill the roster with at least 5 players, likely on deals for near the minimum salary, in order to comply with the league's mandated 13-player roster minimum. Stay tuned to 3QC Friday afternoon, when my colleague, Eddy, will look at potential moves the Magic could make to fill-out their roster.

Ultimately, it's apparent that the Magic have re-asserted themselves as serious championship contenders. Were they content with merely appearing in the Finals, as they did last season, they would not have made this trade. They're confident that Carter can put them over the proverbial hump, as they were only 3 wins away from a title, after all. Trading a prospect such as Lee must have been a tough decision, but New Jersey would not part with Carter otherwise. The Magic made the tough choice to jettison a promising, young player and their two most valuable trade chips. Whether or not it was the right choice remains to be seen. But based on what we know about Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson, they're improvements over the men they'll replace in the rotation. That's reason enough for encouragement, even accounting for the loss of a brilliant youngster.

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Re-sign Hedo

The luxury tax isn’t a problem apparently, so I don’t see why we wouldn’t do it. Otis and Hedo both want rings, hopefully they can see eye to eye.

by Vindibudd on Jun 26, 2009 3:32 AM EDT reply actions  

There aren't enough basketballs for Turk to return

My belief is that the Magic will make Hedo a fairly low offer, he’ll reject it, and they’ll go their separate ways. Their focus now should be re-signing Gortat, to whom they could offer at least the midlevel, as they’re in dire need of bodies up front. And in the backcourt, too, but keeping Gortat is essential.

by Ben Q Rock on Jun 26, 2009 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll agree about Gortat.

But I’ve read that the Magic already made an offer to Hedo, so who knows. You probably know more than me. But I can dream.

by Vindibudd on Jun 26, 2009 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Orlando made an offer, but it wasn't anything crazy.

As Otis said, it was a “jumping off point” .. not saying much.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about Dice? Isn’t he at least a better fit who can play 2 positions for the Magic?

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by pookeyguru on Jun 27, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

so we resign gortat..

how could the rest of the roster filll out?

Nah' mean, nah'm sayin

by Dr Things on Jun 26, 2009 3:38 AM EDT reply actions  

.. signing guys to veteran minimum's, etc.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus the value of that...

….is that the NBA front office pays a good portion of those salaries as well.

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by pookeyguru on Jun 27, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Correct.

That adds to the viability of signing guys to those type of contracts ..

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by erivera7 on Jun 28, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy we received a solid role player along with Carter

And I cannot wait next season when does his Player Comparisons and Ryan Anderson will be Player A and Pat Garrity will be Player B.

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by funny80sguy on Jun 26, 2009 3:47 AM EDT reply actions  

LMAO.

I’ll have that ready, just for you dude.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just remember which letter goes to which player

I would like to guess one of those those player comparisons correctly just once in my life.

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by funny80sguy on Jun 26, 2009 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of all the things

I expected to wake up to this morning, this wasn’t one of them.

Hedo’s gone. :(

by eltharion_doa on Jun 26, 2009 6:22 AM EDT reply actions  

How much was Turk looking to get a year?

Like 10-12 a year? It is probably best to just let him walk and look for his big pay day. However I will miss the guy and the mismatches he created. I wonder if we could sign Gortat and Rasheed for under the amount that Turk was looking to get? How much are Gortat and Rasheed trying to make?

by Ahillock on Jun 26, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Turk, allegedly, is looking for $11 million per year. Not sure if that's true or not.

That’s what the reports have been saying.

As for Gortat and Wallace, not sure if the Magic can get both .. it depends on their asking prices. I expect Marcin to command, at the most, the full MLE. I don’t know what Rasheed is asking for.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Sheed wants around 8mil last I heard, but his two top destinations are Orlando and SA apparently. I think he would be awesome to get.

by derekk on Jun 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he’ll dop it as itspretty darn high, if he can accept MLE, Magic should go for it, but also resigning Gortat to full MLE is not a bad idea either.

by derekk on Jun 26, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

Gortat’s been great, but paying the full MLE to two reserves seems unlikely.

by eltharion_doa on Jun 26, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's not realistic. Too much money.

Maybe a full MLE for one of the two, but that’s it.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol at the bare cupboard...

sounds about right..
but i’m still definitely ecstatic with the trade.

i say we should go after brandon bass and start him at the 4. (doesn’t he make less than $1 mil right now? a raise in the $3 mil range but might right) then we have flex with pietrus off the bench and whatever other fillers we can get. that would also allow us to go to a more traditional lineup.

but then again, you did quote stan talking about the spacing, which is always gonna be an issue..

by coque429 on Jun 26, 2009 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

That would be freaking awesome.

I would love to see Rasheed and Howard playing together down low.

by Ahillock on Jun 26, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, I don't see 'Sheed willing to accept that role when

he can start of 80-90% of other teams. It’s kind of like Shaq’s whole, “I’m a team player, I can come off the bench” line last night, you don’t believe a word they’re saying, but they don’t want to seem like the bad guy.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 26, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

He can start with the Spurs ..

.. which is one of the two teams (the Magic) he’s interested in playing with.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I would rather sign Gortat to back up Dwight.

Then sign Rasheed to start at PF. Lewis plays outside the key and beyond the arc too much for my liking of a true PF. Lewis would be served better imho at SF. Match up Rasheed and Howard downlow to grab rebounds and shut down the lane.

by Ahillock on Jun 26, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't discriminate on the style of play that doesn't suit to your liking.

Rashard Lewis at the 4 is the best for the team, as a whole. Can’t move him to the 3.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because he won't be

We’re going to play with four shooters. That means we need a shooter at the 4. We’re not going to sign a better shooter than Rashard, so he stays at the 4.

by eltharion_doa on Jun 26, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Stan has made it vehemently clear that Lewis isn’t playing at the 3. He doesn’t need to .. he’s an above-average defender and he’s an excellent shooter.

He was a freakin’ All-Star at power forward, for goodness sakes.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, true.

can’t argue with the logic of keeping shard at the 4.

i guess i’m just a little trepid at the prospect of pietrus starting.

by coque429 on Jun 26, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Turk for Marion please

Also, I really would like to see Fran Vasquez finally get his butt over here.

All in all, we upgraded Hedo’s skill set like you said and moved it to the 2, and in doing so now have that 2/5 combo that frequently seems to stumble into Championships. This leaves Turk completely expendable and I’d love a player that earns him money off the ball, a la Marion.

Anderson for Lee is a wash imo, and Anderson is no Cook, more a Troy Murphy lite. Great fit for this team.

So my wish list is Marion, Grant Hill, and Fran Vasquez. If we spend to keep Gortat all the better.

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by Eyriq the Red on Jun 26, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

His contract is up this year.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Coming off the bench for Barcelona though, who are making noises about looking to get out of his contract.

Not sure where he fits into our roster now we have Anderson, though. He doesn’t look to be tough enough to play C.

by eltharion_doa on Jun 26, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah .. Anderson is what Vazquez would have been in the rotation.

And a better fit, to be honest. Ryan can shoot the three and play alongside Dwight.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol @ the Grant Hill

needed that comic relief this morning, thanks.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 26, 2009 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Troy Murphy lite?

That’s a little much, I’d say a homeless man’s rashard lewis. Reasoning? Shard doesn’t hit the boards all that heard, Murphy? One of the best rebounders in the lead. Sure, Anderson has potential to start hitting threes albeit at a snails pace compared to Shard (then again, so does J.J.) but his rebounding skill is more similiar to Rashard’s than Murphy’s. Don’t forget, all those nights we complained about this team finishing either layups or bunnies? Well, Anderson is among the league leaders in poorest FG percentage within 6 feet of the bucket. With all the bashing done, I’m a fan of Anderson and excited that he’s on this team.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 26, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL .. talk about a backhanded compliment for Ryan Anderson.

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL yeah, for real, it was a bit harsh.

I stole the ‘homeless man’ from Bill Simmons draft article this morning. I know ya’ll aren’t too fond of him on this board, but PLEASE read his draft live blog, oh my God, the hilarity. You WILL laugh… hard.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 26, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turk for Marion?

That probably won’t happen.

Vazquez won’t come over. Highly unlikely that Hill or Marion sign here ..

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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

My dream

Is Marion taking a one year deal with us to chase a title.

by eltharion_doa on Jun 26, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe we can look real hard at david lee and rasheed wallace sign robert horry to a vet minimum or better yet dice,
the matchup better for the magic is sign sheed, and bass if we can’t get a sign and trade for turk and maybe we can get good players from the summer league teams

by caputrukahs on Jul 3, 2009 2:05 AM EDT reply actions  

we could ask for rudy and outlaw for turk?

by caputrukahs on Jul 3, 2009 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

weirdly enough

Hi I just wanted to express my opinion:
I’m Turkish, I was like 17 years old when Hidayet Turkoglu (yeah that’s his name!) came to Sacramento Kings and had that epic battle with the LA Lakers in 2001-2002 season.

I thought I was really lucky when he was already in Orlando when I came to Daytona Beach in August 2007, (coincidentally i was at the University (Embry-Riddle), that is right next to the school Vince Carter went to, and he paid for the school gym, with his statue and all!!!)
this meant that I would get to watch him and Orlando Magic, and seriously I became a fan, was really heartbroken last year against Detroit.

He was the go-to guy, there is no denying that, sure had his deficiency’s. But, he was one of the 3 important guys of the team, and wouldn’t you agree that is unfair that he earned just over half of Rashard (I like him alot) 18-7 mill bucks!!!
He just wanted a little bit more, like 10 mill a year!

Next thing is I’m a soccer (football) fan, but when you replace 3 of your 5 starters in a team, that is NOT the same team anymore, your teamwork, team morale and all that etc is gone.
They got Vince Carter knowing that would effectively kill Hido’s chances to stay.

So my prediction is that Orlando won’t make it to the finals for another 14 years. The last time though, they only let ONE guy get away, now they let THREE starters get away.

I’m done with supporting Orlando.

by Mster on Jul 3, 2009 3:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Classic definition of a bandwagon fan, eh?

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by erivera7 on Jul 3, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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