Breaking: Orlando Magic Acquire Vince Carter of the New Jersey Nets for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie, and Courtney Lee
by Ben Q Rock on Jun 25, 2009 5:22 PM EDT
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Multiple news outlets, including the Orlando Sentinel, are reporting that the Orlando Magic and the New Jersey Nets have agreed on a trade to bring 8-time All-Star Vince Carter to Orlando. In principle, the deal involves New Jersey sending Carter, who starred for nearby Daytona Mainland High School, and power forward Ryan Anderson to Orlando for Rafer Alston, Tony Battie, and Courtney Lee. Anderson and Lee both just finished their rookie seasons. According to Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel, Carter's prohibitive contract means the Magic will likely be unable to re-sign Hedo Turkoglu this summer.
This is not the first time Orlando has pursued Carter at the expense of Turkoglu and a young shooting guard. At the 2007 trading deadline, Orlando ultimately rejected an offer of Carter for Turkoglu, Darko Milicic, and either Trevor Ariza or J.J. Redick. That price was too much to pay for a rental, as Carter could have left as a free agent at season's end.
The deal is not yet official, as the salaries do not match up exactly, but is expected to be finished tonight. Eddy and I were already scheduled to be guests of the Magic for tonight's NBA Draft. We'll be sure to talk to whomever we can, including GM Otis Smith, about this deal and any others the team makes tonight.
Without dipping too deeply into analysis, I'll say this much: the Magic's acquisition of Carter--their best perimeter scoring threat since his cousin, Tracy McGrady, wore Magic blue--is their way of pushing all their chips to the center of the table. Alston and Battie are Orlando's two biggest expiring contracts, and Lee is the team's best rookie since 2000 Rookie of the Year winner Mike Miller. Throw in the cost of not being able to re-sign Hedo, and it's without question the biggest trade in team history. Biggest gamble, too.
With that said, Carter is a proven scorer and a likely Hall-of-Famer, and he'll have a chance to finish his career playing for the closest thing he has to a hometown team. It's hard to argue against that. But if he doesn't retire with at least one championship ring, it will have been--and I'm sorry to say this--a waste.
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“Lee is the team’s best rookie since 2000 Rookie of the Year winner Mike Miller”
Ummm…I’d say there is a Defensive Player of the Year and Rookie of the Year in Dwight Howard that might take offense with this statement. ;)
“Throw in the cost of not being able to re-sign Hedo, and it’s without question the biggest trade in team history.”
So, there is absolutely no chance of re-signing Hedo now that this deal is done? sigh
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by malars on Jun 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, Dwight's the exception to everything
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 25, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dwight wasn't the rookie of the year.
by TragicMatt on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I know, but I fail to recognize Okafor as winner for that year. : |
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by malars on Jun 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's highly unlikely Turkoglu comes back.
.. which means Gortat is the new target.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fine by me.
i’ve been saying this all the while anyways. i just didn’t think we could afford him without going in the luxury.
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by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Orlando is going to the luxury tax anyway
It’s just now with Gortat instead of Vince Carter. This might really change Memphis’ and OKC’s thinking too. This has a real ripple effect for Sacramento with Rubio now. Yowzah.
Lot to contemplate.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Magic will definitely be in the tax.
The question is, how deep will the team be? I don’t know.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get this at ALL.
Not even if we get back Hedo. We don’t need a volume scorer at the 2. What we need is a defensive specialist who can knock down the 3 at a low-to-moderate volume and doesn’t mind being the 4th/5th option on offense. We had that guy. And we just traded him for a 20-PPG ball hog who has never in recorded history played defense or worked within a team structure.
Although if we do lose Hedo, we need a volume scorer, and a guy who can average 4-5 assists…
That’s the thing. Carter replaces Hedo pretty well. But we didn’t need to replace Hedo — we just needed to re-sign him. And now who replaces Lee? We essentially traded two pieces for one piece.
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's a bit more than that
We get Ryan Anderson. I haven’t seen him play or heard much about him. but from the post I’ve seen so far and his stats this year, he’ll be a better backup at 4 than Battie was. Also, Carter doesn’t have to play 2, he can play 3. If we only look at stats alone, he’s better than Turk. Obviously we won’t know if he’ll be a good fit until the season starts.
I questioned this trade in the beginning as well, but looking at it more carefully made me think this can actually work very well for us.
by CityShrimp on Jun 25, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson is better than Battie.
He’s a good, young player .. Carter can play the 2 or 3, so he presents some flexibility. In the end, the trade will be determined a success or failure depending on how the Magic fare next season.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hedo is .. gone, unless something happens with the negotiations.
I agree that this trade wasn’t necessary, but it’s done. Time to move on.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got a little rough there near the end Ben sheesh.
I love this. I LOVE this. People forget the guy can pass and rebound too. 20/5/4 last year. And while I’m sure his points will go down there is no reason to believe his assists could decrease and his rebounds either.
I love this.
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
He is a better player then Hedo. Only thing we lose is Hedo is clutch. Vince on top 3 team is going back to the all star game.
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can find open shooters too
…this is not a normal SG, he gets his assists, and needless to say we have better shooters than what NJ had last year.
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carter is better than Turkoglu, yes.
.. but is he the better fit? I don’t know, yet.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now that is the question..
It makes a little nervous. Kind of reminds me of Kidd vs. D. Harris.
I think it is a good trade.. Seriously we have 4 legit All-Stars now. Turk was good, but not a legit all star like VC.
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure SVG will figure it all out on how to make it work
Still, keeping Turk would be nice.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stan is smart.
I’m not worried about him making things work.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had a team that had jelled and played well together.
Everyone knew there roll. Now ? Too much tweaking.
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by Surfdog on Jun 28, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're overstating this point a bit
First, there are only 8 players on the team. It’s not like we have a finished product on our hands.
Second, the roles aren’t that different. Assuming the rest of the moves are spent acquiring backups, Pietrus will start at SF and Carter at SG. That’s new, sure. But MP will go back to his role from the start of last season: shoot 3s from the corner, slash occasionally, and defend the opposition’s best perimeter scorer. Carter takes Hedo’s role as the playmaking, do-it-all wing, which is something he did in New Jersey a bit, too. Nelson, Lewis, and Howard continue to do their things.
It’s not terribly different, really. As I’ve said elsewhere on Twitter and on this site, the system is the same. It’s the individual parts that are new.
by Ben Q Rock on Jun 28, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team is definitely not pussy footing around
Way to go Otis, lets win a championship. Even if we don’t get Turk back, Pietrus in the starting lineup makes this the best starting five in the east.
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by magic fanatic on Jun 25, 2009 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we have to re-sign turk
or this deal sucks. that’s basically all there is to it.
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by mhetrick14 on Jun 25, 2009 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uhm, false.
just…false. haha
We get Ryan Anderson too. This all works out well.
And DUH if we get turk then ++++++
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only way this works out well,
is if we re-sign turk
or
let him walk and re-sign gortat.
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by mhetrick14 on Jun 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or someone like Gortat
yes, I would agree.
Some big for anywhere from 5 to 8 mil.
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what will happen.
.. either Gortat or Turkoglu are coming back.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we bring back Gortat
Do you think that there is a chance we put him at the 4 throw shard back to the 3 and have that be the starting line up. Obviously we would need to find a back up dwight
by qbinfin on Jun 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
If Gortat comes back, it’s to come off the bench and play the same role he has been in.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i mean,
basically, we just traded turk/lee for an aging carter. i don’t like it.
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by mhetrick14 on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
turk is aging too
He isn’t 26
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
disagree
I know everyone says that Hedo was definitely coming back, but there is no way to 100% sure.
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was on his way .. until this trade.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like boozer or different?
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean?
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Thoughts-
I don’t like this trade.
I like dumping Battie and Alston. But Lee? Painful…
by The Stan 'Stache on Jun 25, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The loss of Lee really hurts. He’s pretty much one of our best perimeter defenders and on top of it hes YOUNG!!!! Otis, otis, otis
by cmdpsu15 on Jun 25, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't build for dynastys,
but to win.
Look at the Lakers, look at the Spurs when they won, same with the Pistons.
None of them have a focus on the future. It’s about winning with the best team you can assemble.
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough, but like Ben said, this could also be a waste.
by cmdpsu15 on Jun 25, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a risky move.
.. it’s clear the Magic are going “all-in” with this trade.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way too risky.
Why go all-in?
We were fine withe Alston/maybe Battie trade for some midlevel…hah.
Doesn’t matter now,I guess
by Dzogi on Jun 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*shrugs*
We’ll see what happens. I don’t like the move but I’m sure I’ll warm up to it, eventually.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmmmmmm....
Only short -term.
I liked the former Magic better.
But,hey,GO MAGIC.
by Dzogi on Jun 25, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But still, we're essentially trading two pieces for one.
And don’t try to tell me Ryan Anderson is a piece. Ryan Anderson isn’t worth his late-first-round rookie contract.
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except that piece, Carter, is big. Real big.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It hurts. I'll miss Lee.
It’s nothing personal, strictly business.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think people are overlooking the Ryan Anderson factor
He may not have the promise that Lee has but he will be a solid role player for us…and he adds another three point threat when he’s on the court.
Plus, this post-season, it became clear that Pietrus, not Lee, was going to be our big time wing-defender for the coming years.
I guess I’ll have to change my name now though :-(
by Lee for three on Jun 25, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think that about Anderson?
Is it his 4.7 rebounds in 20 minutes a game? Or his 39% field goal shooting? What exactly about Anderson leads you to believe he will be an effective NBA player some day?
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering this year we had no back-up PF
Anderson is a bigger asset than Battie. Anderson isn’t a great rebounder but that’s not his game. 36.5% from deep isn’t bad and that’s going to be his game and his role. He’s never going to be great, but he’s much more than a throw in. If Anderson gets 20 mins a night…thats about what the combo of Battie/Alston would be getting.
Plus the guy was a rookie last year…he’s got plenty of time to develop.
by Lee for three on Jun 25, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possibly.
I mean, I’m the one who always said that if Brian Cook was at all competent, he would’ve been the perfect backup PF for the Magic. I guess that with a little seasoning, Anderson could end up as a competent version of Brian Cook…
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Competent version of Brian Cook . . .
Now that is some upside if I ever heard it!
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by funny80sguy on Jun 26, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a rookie .. have to take his stats with a grain of salt ..
.. and expect him to improve, especially under Stan Van Gundy.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sold...
I am not sold on this deal. I am not a huge Carter fan. His attitude is very reminiscent of T-Mac’s. Orlando made is money this season on defense. While Howard is still back there to deflect, good perimeter defense is the key to a title. Carter is not a good defender, no matter which way you try to spin it.
The question Orlando has to answer now is who is their perimeter stopper? They have already traded Keith Bogans and Trevor Ariza and now it appears Lee is gone. Who is going to make James or Bryant fight for every point? Pietrus is best coming off the bench. Orlando has a lot more work to do now if this deal goes through.
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by philrsquared on Jun 25, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the group,bro.
As Ben said,this could be a WASTE>.
Let’s hope not.
by Dzogi on Jun 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carter's attitude has been better. I'll defend him on that ..
.. he stepped up and was a leader for the Nets last season.
That being said. The Magic better try like hell to either re-sign Gortat or Turkoglu. The latter may seem unlikely, but it’s not outside the realm of possibility. It’s clear that Orlando will re-sign one of the two.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a little numb from the trade and not sure how I feel about it
But I’m thinking if Hedo is re-signed, the Magic’s starting lineup is scary good.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah.
.. but I just don’t see that happening now.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is scary to me. Team is about chemistry. Could be gone.
QUESTION ? Will these pieces fit now? Doesn’t look good to me. If Hedo goes a major piece goes out the door. Not to mention Lee who fit in well. This team will have to re-gell. Could go either way.
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by Surfdog on Jun 25, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think chemistry will be too much of an issue.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben and I are going to be MAD busy, tonight.
Some quick thoughts before I head out the door.
I don’t like this trade at all. I like VC .. but to go “all-in” with a deal like this doesn’t make sense to me. Rash decision. With this move, Hedo is almost as good as gone, which changes the complexion of the team.
I’ll post my thoughts tomorrow but .. boy, I don’t know about this move.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. I have a bad feeling about it.
Hope it’s not all over
by Dzogi on Jun 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know if I am nets fan
I am not happy, so I think the deal is fair. Only time you have a deal where everyone on one side is happy is if someone gets fleeced. for example Pao Gasol.
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
final opionon
Will come after Turk signs some where.
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I’m hoping that Devos has just decided to go for broke since he isn’t long on this earth.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops, meant to reply to e.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll find out in the next few weeks.
The Magic are definitely going into the tax .. the question is, who’s coming back?
Gortat or Turkoglu? It’s going to be one or the other.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we get either the trade was amazing
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's possible.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's what i'm thinking
go for it RICHIE!
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by mhetrick14 on Jun 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in not a big VC fan either
but i like the move. we had to counter the Cavs trade and we’re showing some guts. it may come at the expense of turk but he mails it in a lot for us to pay him $11M a yr. just look at this past season in comparison to last year. if he really wanted to stay with Orl, he would have performed much better throughout the season esp knowing its a contract year
by nowuseemenowudont on Jun 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, that's the wrong attitude to have.
You don’t respond to what other teams do. Teams made that mistake after the Gasol/Lakers trade.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see this as Magic responding to the Cavs
I was even skeptical that the Shaq trade would have really hurt the Magic that much if they met in the playoffs.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't a response ..
.. this trade has been in the works for a few days, from what I was told.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then it's a response to the Lakers
look, any way u slice this, it’s in response to something. Alston had to go to avoid any inner turmoil, plus to head off the inevitable media circus as the season closed in. Nelson is the starter, hands down, but the media would have brought up how Alston led the team to the finals, then had his minutes slashed in favor of a completely ineffective Jameer.
Carter, in my estimation, is a response to Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal (amazing how these two still completely affect the NBA). The Magic needed a perimeter scorer to battle Kobe, with size. VC is that. He’s no All-Defender, no doubt, but VC has got size, and that’s about the only thing that has been proven to give Kobe trouble.
Mainly, however, I feel this was in response to Shaq going to Cleveland (which was in the works several days ago, so that discounts your theory on the Magic trade being in the works for several days. Orlando heard what Cleveland was going to do, so they responded). Essentially, the thinking goes like this. Let’s say you have Shaq completely Pau-ing Dwight down low? Who does the offense go through. Turk? Not if he’s gone. But even if he’s still around, Lebron can cover Turk, even on those P&R’s. If Lebron and Shaq have just neutralized your two best offensive threats, and apparently both sides feel Mo vs. Jameer is a wash, then VC is the answer. How the hell is Delonte West going to guard Air Canada? Not in a million years.
Personally, I strongly feel like Orlando wants to resign Hedo, and full intends to. This will counter the loss of Lee. Here’s your playoff rotation:
C: Howard, Gortat
F: Lewis, Hedo, Pietrus, Anderson
G: Nelson, VC, Reddick, Johnson
That’s a pretty decent rotation, if you ask me.
by tandur on Jun 25, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not a theory when Otis Smith himself told me, himself.
This trade isn’t a response to anything but to continue to get better as a team. Hedo isn’t coming back, that’s the reality of the situation once the Vince Carter trade went down.
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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so...
Pietrus is starting?
Essentially, it went for Hedo and Lee with Pietrus & Reddick as backups to VC and Pietrus starting with Reddick as the backup?
On that basis, horrible move. VC may provide more points, but he’s NOT a great P&R ball handler. His defense is 100x worse than Hedo’s (atleast Turk tries, even if he sucks at it).
by tandur on Jun 26, 2009 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's still more moves to be made.
Can’t really critique the roster until Otis is done filling it.
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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i say that because
its not necessarily about following what other teams do but rather us putting ourselves in a position to win right now. we really didnt give up much. if we resign turk, we’ll have the hardest starting 5 in bball
by nowuseemenowudont on Jun 25, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re-signing Turk will be extremely difficult.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Anderson
should be a nice addition. VC would not have missed that lay up that Lee missed because he would have just dunked it. I think this is a good counter attack to the Shaq trade.
I still feel Hedo will be kept. This team is gonna rock it next year!
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by Dirkula on Jun 25, 2009 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like ryan anderson
You need a PF who can knock down the Elbow jumper when you have a good big man. Ryan Anderson the new Robert Horry?
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by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about that, but he's better than Battie.
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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ryan is the new tony battie
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by EX-TREME on Jun 25, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But better.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe the new
Tony Battie of yesteryear
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But better and younger.
I like Anderson.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the new Brian Cook, more like.
No rebounding skill at all, incredibly low-percentage outside shooter.
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking about his overall 39.5% FG percentage. I guess the fact that half his shots last year were threes does throw a wrinkle into that… I didn’t realize his game was QUITE that far outside. 36.5% from three is definitely a percentage we can live with…
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're being a bit too harsh on Anderson.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
way to go Otis
was wondering what the hell we were gonna do. glad we didnt sit back and remain witnesses on draft day
by nowuseemenowudont on Jun 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and I thought I was going to be bored today during the draft
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Anyone..
Are there any league restrictions or rules regarding our abilities to resign Turk or is it strictly the Magic’s willingness to pay?
"It's difficult to win when you're outscored in every quarter." -Bill Walton
by betterthanburke on Jun 25, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Magic's willingness to pay.
Like I said . . . maybe Devos is opening up his pocketbook to relive that Finals rush.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando's willingness to pay.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks to both.
I feel a little better now.
DONATION FUND FOR TURK?!!?
"It's difficult to win when you're outscored in every quarter." -Bill Walton
by betterthanburke on Jun 25, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got 23 cents, a half-a-pickle and 3 bubble gum wrappers.
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by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have 75 cents!
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good work everyone!!! Almost 9 mil!
"It's difficult to win when you're outscored in every quarter." -Bill Walton
by betterthanburke on Jun 25, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL,we could pay him for about....
…. half a second,yes.
by Dzogi on Jun 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN YOU, SCHOOL, FOR MAKING ME GO TO CAMPUS TODAY
LOOK AT WHAT I MISSED!!! DDDD:
I don’t want Lee to go anywhere.
/stubborn
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You will still have J.J. though
(still in denial stage about losing Lee)
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hang around the site tonight .. Ben and I are going to liveblog the proceedings.
You can chat with us, if you’d like. We’re going to be running around, too.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have a good time.
Effing time zones. I HAVE to go to bed. GL,fellas!
by Dzogi on Jun 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, is TNT live streaming the draft tonight?
I wanna watch now.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why is my sister texting me to say that Michael Jackson's dead?
okay, that’s it, I’m never going back to school.
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cos he is.
www.last.fm/user/mhetrick04
by mhetrick14 on Jun 25, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Source? I see he's in the hospital with cardiac arrest but nothing about him dying...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. There were some gobbles about it,but nothing serious.
by Dzogi on Jun 25, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I thought he died according to this....
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmmmm,didn't see that
How come there’s nothing else anywhere?
by Dzogi on Jun 25, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its on cnn and whatnot
No one is reporting his actual death though.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, not yet.
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by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my mom just called me, too, to tell me
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tmz broke leroi moore's death hours before anyone. i'd say he's dead.
www.last.fm/user/mhetrick04
by mhetrick14 on Jun 25, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CNN states he is in a coma...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LA Times reporting he has died!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WE TRADE FOR VINCE CARTER AND NOW MJ DIES
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by EX-TREME on Jun 25, 2009 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2012 is coming early, apparently.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm unsure of the whole thing
because Turk realy made the offense work and I though re-signing him was a priority. If Carter can do the same things thats great, but I guess I’ll have to wait and see.
The thing I don’t like is that we don’t have role players! Who wants to play defense? Who is passing the ball? Who is going to cry first when he does not get enough touches? Who knows their role?
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by L Magico on Jun 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Give it time.
Otis is working on it .. this isn’t the last move for Orlando.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure,but I personally want to see Otis' drawing board ASAP
Luckily,it is MUCH easier to make moves/attract players when your team is a contender.
by Dzogi on Jun 26, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a little afraid as to how this will effect the team defensively
VC has always struck me as one of those players who makes the teams around him a little worse rather than better, like a Stephon Marbury or Steve Francis. I guess we’ll see if that’s actually the case, but I question whether we wouldn’t have been better off just resigning Hedo.
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by Brickhaus on Jun 25, 2009 6:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do you really think
that turk is a better defender than VC? he’s a better passer off the pick and roll. thats about it
by nowuseemenowudont on Jun 25, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VC can be a good defender
And he does step it up when playing against other elite SGs/SFs. I really really like this, it also will make Orlando a place that veterans will want to come to to win a ring, which cant be understated.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turk is a better defender, statistically.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing is .. this is the first time VC has been on an elite team, ever.
I’m not buying all that ‘he makes his teams worse’ talk .. that’s nonsense.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know a lot of people hate VC
But he actually showed some heart last year, and almost got NJ to the playoffs. I like this better more for the long term, Id rather gamble on VC for 2 years than have Hedo for 5, and we needed someone who could take over for stretches in a game. As much as losing C Lee sucks, he was most of a sixth man to me, and it would take him a couple more years to really develop into a contributor. I say resign Gortat and do a sign and trade with Hedo to get a backup SF, then Ill feel better. I dont know why, and it is a huge gamble, but I like the fact that were trying to go for broke after last season.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
VC deserves credit for stepping up and being a leader last season.
.. he wants to win and will do whatever it takes to help a team.
We’ll see what Otis does now with his next roster moves.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why this is a GREAT trade.
1) Vince Carter is better than Hedo Turkoglu. Magic prolly wont keep him now, but Magic will have a SG who avg’ed 21,5,5 last yr. He can playmake, and is a better scoring option. Magic will no longer have offensive collapses where they go away from PRs and plays, VC will make a sht from anywhere.
2) Ryan Anderson had a very promising rookie season. He is a shooting PF that Magic fit in with.
3) Resigning Turkoglu would’ve been a 3 to 4 yr affair, where many felt like Magic would’ve seen a declining Turkoglu and truly be set in salary to 3 players (Dwight, Lewis, Turk) I still think its a better move with or without Turkoglu, but this is sadly true concerning his many yrs left on a new contract.
4) Vince gives the Magic options again. We can see they are a tightly-lid braintrust group. Thats a couple moves alrdy where nobody sees it coming at all frankly. If the Magic really did not want to pay Luxury, Im sorry to say but this was the best move, even better than resigning Turk. SA Spurs went after Vince Carter first before getting Jefferson, they had no-one like Lee to package with expirings tho. The big thing here is that Magic take Vince for 2 yrs instead of Turk’s 3-5 yrs, they have options galore down the road in trades to stay flexible while being better, so a-m-a-z-i-n-g move.
by derekk on Jun 25, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Ryan Anderson will be a great role player, IMO. I mean, giving up Lee for VC and him is a steal for me.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Magic will be paying the luxury.
.. this wasn’t a move to avoid it.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good Trade for Magic
I am a New Jersey Net season ticket holder. I was at basically every Net game last year. If you most of you are Magic fans you should be extremely pumped for this trade. Vince Carter was easily our best player last year if not Devin Harris. Point being he may getting older and older but his shot is still one of the best in the league. His pull up 3 is basically unstoppable, on his nights when he gets going he’s amazing. Not to mention he makes a lot of crazy drives. The only thing that Magic fans should be upset about is losing Lee. But Vince will make up for that. And the Magic a lot of 3 point shots thats what Ryan Anderson does. Stands on the 3 point line and gets rebounds. It doesn’t even matter that Turk might be on the outs because J Nelson and Vince are going to be EXPLOSIVE.
by fuzzydunlop on Jun 25, 2009 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea, thanks.
Ill miss C. Lee but he’s going to be explosive with Harris. Nets are BIG 2010 players!
by derekk on Jun 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have fun with Courtney Lee.
.. he’s a heckuva player.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't wanna give up Lee :(((
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And you also will have to see more JJ next year
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
STOP REMINDING ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if I stop reminding you that JJ will get more minutes potentially?
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate you all
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hate Otis
He’s the one who opened up more time for JJ. LOL
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Possible that...
we keep Peaches on the bench and Vince moves to the 3. Guess who would start? JJ. Yeah, you guessed it. LMAO.
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by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think the shrewd move by Otis is getting Anderson out of the deal. I’m not even sure if Orlando re-signs Gortat now. The more I think about it. (At the end of my first beer admittedly.)
I’m so ready for this day to be over. Michael Jackson died. Farrah Fawcett died. There’s been 5 big trades of actual NBA players and 8 billion more rumored for the draft itself.
I’m so ready for this day to be over.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh you're telling me
and I only just found out about, like, 90% of this stuff. :|
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and I have to write a paper tonight
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry to hear that
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt want to give up Lee
but imagine we resign turk and our starting 5 looks like this:
Nelson
Carter
Turk
Lewis
Howard
all this = DOMINATION
by nowuseemenowudont on Jun 25, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id rather us focus on Gortat
And let Pietrus start. I dont think having Hedo and VC together would work out all that well.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO CHEMISTRY AT ALL THERE!!!
Great point. How would Turk respond to being the 3rd or 4th scoring option. Vince can play the point forward quite nicely when playing the 3.
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by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Vince can handle the ball just fine
And with him and Jameer, Hedo would be turned more into a spot up shooter I would think. The reason we had Hedo control the ball so much was due to injury/not having a reliable 2 who could create on his own. We dont have that problem anymore.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
turk just became a 1st 2nd option recently
lets not forget how many years he had to play the background. i have confidence in SVG that he can get that group to work together. if not, we can always start Peaches and have VC come off the bench with his aging azz
by nowuseemenowudont on Jun 25, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but who wants to regress? He's earned his stripes.
If he can’t get it here, by all means,
DEUCES.
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by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VC isn't coming off the bench.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the heck am I going to do with my CLee jersey?!?
sigh
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cherish it.
.. and keep it.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
But I’m not a Vince Carter fan, and I don’t like any trade for him. That being said, I wonder several things.
- How poorly were the initial contract talks that were going with Turkoglu and his agent
- Is Ryan Anderson worth swapping C-Lee?
- Will the Magic lose Gortat anyway because he wants starter minutes?
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ryan anderson has potential.
he’s a great 3 point shooter for a big man. He didn’t get a lot of touches when he got his minutes but he does a lot of work on the off and def. rebounding.
by fuzzydunlop on Jun 25, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know all that
That’s not the point. But, Ryan Anderson has potential, and C-Lee is somewhat proven to an extent. I just wonder if the Magic’s real target is Gortat still. He may leave for starter’s minutes.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Gortat said he wanted to stay in Orlando
When you think about it, Hedo/Lee or Gortat/Vince Carter?
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The latter. Def.
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by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as Hedo is a hometown favorite
He is VERY unpredictable, and disappears quite a bit. Vince can get to the FT line much more reliably, which is something we needed to improve on.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Paul I understand your above argument
But will Gortat be happy in a reduced min role or playing starter minutes?
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, I know hed like to play starter minutes
I wish his ass had an outside shot, then we could put him at the 4, move Lewis back to the 3 and still have Peaches off the bench. But alas, thatll never happen.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Gortat can play the PF
I think that’s why the Magic did this. They have many more guys who can play the 2 & 3, and since they aren’t trading Lewis, I don’t think they’re going to worry about it.
I do wonder how this team will fare without a backup PG for Meer though.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We still have AJ
Who proved before we douched him in the finals that he is a solid backup. Im not really worried about that too much.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Do you want VC to be the other backup PG as well? That’s the other thing.
This has been one screwy day.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJ Jonhnson
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by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draft hasnt even started yet
Who knows, theres probably another blockbuster trade waiting to happen. I know Ive read about Amare possible going to Golden State and the whole Ray Allen/Rondo talks.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be pissed if the Kings acquire Rondo
But, I’m not surprised. At the same time, I do think Golden State has acquire some flexibility by moving Crawford.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Why?
I think Rondo would be a nice piece for the Kings. Unless you’re a big Rubio believer, Rondo is probably better than most in the draft.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the Kings desperately need a PG
They would actually be solid if they had someone not named Beno starting.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't watch the Kings enough to know why
Just take my word for it funny.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okie-doke
I will defer to your expertise on all things Kings..
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Crawford is garbage
But Ill just wait and see about the other deals, but I think with us, Cleveland and San Antonio making big deals that someone else is going to do something.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand why Atlanta did it though
Crawford can do all the things Bibby can do.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Answers.
- I don’t know .. Otis is still speaking with Hedo and his agent.
- Depends on who you ask. Anderson and Lee both fit with the team.
- No .. the Magic will lose Gortat because another team will outbid ’em.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please let us know in a dedicated post about Turkoglu.
Any chance on Turk not opting out for this chance to have practically the same team plus VC?
And Id love to get you and Ben’s VC playing with the Magic analysis, stats and everything, along with the Turk info.
by derekk on Jun 25, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,Gortat stated several times how happy he is in Orlando.
Money will do the talking.
In case of similar offers,I believe he’ll stick with us,contender team,working with D12 on daily basis,etc.
by Dzogi on Jun 26, 2009 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MJ officially dead
Sadness.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Farrah Fawcet as well
For you older folk.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything happens in 3s.
Ed McMahon died too.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards and Rays! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, forgot about him
Just been a crazy week so far.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not forget about David Carradine
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he did that to himself
Asphyxiation not really the best way to go out.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Vince Carter on the Magic thread...
…turned into the death thread. Argh.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry >.<
I brought up Jackson first :|
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey yall
I’m off to my thread. I hope this trade really works for Orlando. But, I’m still confused by today anyway. My head hopefully will clear up. Talk to yall later fo sheezy.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take care. Thanks for stopping by.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Carradine and Ed McMahon have died today?
Or died this week?
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carradine died last week or so, I believe
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't watch the news
I really don’t pay attention. Sorry TGS.
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by pookeyguru on Jun 25, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised you didn't know
considering it was splashed across the internet, pics and all, for quite a while.
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Ed McMahon died yesterday, and Carradine was found dead in Bangkok after having strangled himself for pleasure. Apparently he was a sexual deviant.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh, autoerotic asphyxiation is no more or less deviant than most other sex practices...
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, true
But still sucks to be found dead like that.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh definitely :-/
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow....
My first impression is that I don’t like this trade. Hedo is a better fit for us than Carter is. (I’m assuming that Hedo won’t be re-signed given this move)
Lee seemed like someone who could be a long-term asset for us. But, the Magic are sorta log-jammed at sg/sf with MP and Reddick plus Hedo. Perhaps management felt they were selling high on Lee, with all of his exposure during the playoffs. I don’t know.
So whats the starting 5 now – Howard, Lewis, Carter, Nelson, and Pietrus I guess? Thats easily the best starting 5 in the league, but our bench is compromised as a result. We’ve got Reddick and not much else. I suppose AJ is sticking in his role, and we could do worse. Resigning Gortat is now a major priority. We can certainly use Battie’s salary to do that.
On the other hand, if the big offers aren’t there for Turkoglu, and they might not be, Orlando would certainly have the option of resigning him for something cheaper than what he wants… which would give us quite a bit of depth (but no backup for Howard). Still seems unlikely though, as Carter’s due something like 14 mill.
I guess we’ll see.
by RussL on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nelson/Carter/Pietrus/Lewis/Howard.
.. so far, with Anderson, Johnson, and Redick coming off the bench. So far.
Have to wait and see what Otis does. Nothing is set in stone, yet.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a very deep bench at this point...but several open roster spots to fill.
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
REST IN PEACE MIKE
And good luck up in Jersey CLee, I wish nothing but the best for you. Hedo please come back.
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by magic12ball on Jun 25, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa. Losing Lee sucks, and not being able to sign Turk really sucks, but wow, welcome Vince!
Shocked.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shocked is the word of the day
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can SOMEONE please explain to me what's going on with our current financial situation?
I really want to know why WE CANT get Hedo/Gortat back here. Serious request.
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by magic12ball on Jun 25, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Vince were already close to the luxury tax
I mean we CAN get Hedo and Gortat, but I highly doubt wed be willing to pay close to 10 million over the luxury tax to resign both.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cus we're paying Vince 15 million, we would have paid Hedo less than 10..
No Hedo, No Gortat, sorry.
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We can still keep Gortat
Considering we were willing to go into the luxury tax to resign Hedo, if thats not a possibility then well definitely go after Gortat
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might be one of the two.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Magic are going into the tax.
.. it’s unlikely Turkoglu comes back, but Gortat is a possibility.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
VC Comes HOME for CHAMPIONSHIP!
I love Hedo and hope the Magic spend the money to keep him. Having a billionaire owner who wants to win should make it happen. Yeah VC is 32yrs old ,but definitely not done. Kobe, Pierce, Shaq, and many others have age questions. Point is VC is coming home to WIN! Players don’t want to end a career without a title and that’s why I think all you doubting him and questioning his attitude will be pleasantly surprised. If we keep Hedo, I’ll be on cloud nine! FOUR ALL STARS and an almost all star in Hedo will be incredible to watch! Don’t forget 21yr old Anderson seems like a perfect fit to our system. I’ll take an ALL IN approach if it translates to a title just ask Boston.
by O-Town MagiCane on Jun 25, 2009 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHOA. WE GOT RYAN ANDERSON TOO!?!??!?!?
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep!
That is the guy most of us are most excited about. Finally, we got our Pat Garrity replacement.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really excited about Anderson
Saw nothing about it on here though, ESPN is reporting it was a separate trade from VC, who did we give up for Anderson?
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has to be the Keyon Dooling trade exception, I'm thinking.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. That trade exception finally came in handy.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we essentially traded Rafer and Battie for Vince and swapped 21st and 22nd picks from the 08-09 draft.
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we lost Lee :((
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Courtney was a STUD
Id be upset. He obviously has a bright future, but unless he turns into an All-Star down the road Id say we made out much better.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he is a STUD
in my heart anyway :(
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And somewhere, Hedo is breaking down in tears from your betrayal
If we lose Hedo, I blame your promiscuity.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lee's closer to me in age, and isn't married!
oh God what have I done?!?!
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a VERY VERY poor man's Rashard Lewis, nice pickup for the bench.
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a nice, younger player.
Fits in well with the Magic. Stan likes him.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who thinks Vince stays healthy for us?
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hes been pretty healthy over the last 4 years
So I wouldnt be too worried. I think hell come to camp in the best shape hes been in, knowing that hes playing for an actual title contender for once.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he'll break his ankle within the first two weeks of camp
then spend the next 75238974 years not playing but still getting paid, before recovering and leaving us for the [name your team here].
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even funny...
"It's difficult to win when you're outscored in every quarter." -Bill Walton
by betterthanburke on Jun 25, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Draft thread if anybody is interested:
http://www.justin.tv/jtvfamous4
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We had one earlier, but it "broke down".
Sorry for the inconvenience. This thread has evolved into a draft thread, of sorts.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many years left on VC's contract?
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 years and a partially guaranteed in the 3rd
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JVG likes the VC trade, said they couldn't come to an agreement with Hedo.
Sad day, but it’s true, VC IS better than our boy Hedo.
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is .. but he may not be the better fit.
We’ll see how it goes. Give it time.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna miss Lee.
Seriously dissapointed by that, but that’s the way it goes. Hopefully Carter can bring good things to the team, but I’m gonna miss him.
Cheese… milk's leap toward immortality.
by ratherfantastic on Jun 25, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll miss Lee, too.
It’s business, nothing personal.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, Don
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so now..
is it possible to resign gortat and sign and trade hedo for travis outlaw?
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
by Dr Things on Jun 25, 2009 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No.
.. Magic may be able to re-sign one of the two, but not both .. and probably not Hedo.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this would be cool
Nelson – Johnson
Carter – Reddick
Pietrus – Outlaw
Lewis – Anderson
Howard – Gortat
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
by Dr Things on Jun 25, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Yes it would be cool.
Anderson is a homeless man’s Rashard Lewis, but he’s got potential, for sure.
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on Jun 25, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
i am psyched to see if anderson has the same potential as a power forward as lee does as a shooting guard. does anyone know about his game?
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
by Dr Things on Jun 25, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could be solid
Good rebounder, shot 40% from 3 in college, hes basically Tony Battie but with more range, a better rebounding rate, but probably not as good a 1 on 1 defender.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anybody know how the Live Draft thread is supposed to work?
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Itll start whenever they start it
Just gotta wait.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man this day has been too much
Shaq gets traded in the morning
Farrah Fawcet dies, then Michael Jackson dies
Now we get Vince and traded Lee and Skip?
This day has been too much I must sit down
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by Wasabi Steak on Jun 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
About Lee...
Definitely hate losing him. Kid has heart and hustle. One thing people don’t mention is that Lee was undersized against Boston, Clev and LA. Yes he did a great job but his size did hurt him vs the elite teams. He had same problem as D. West with Clev. I feel losing Gortat would be bigger blow to Magic than losing Lee.
by O-Town MagiCane on Jun 25, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, dont wanna lose Gortat
Feel like we already have our “Kobe stopper” in Pietrus. Gortat is huge for us off the bench, and I think he will see more action next year if we resign him.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we need
to make one more move this summer for this to be a successful line up. pg and sg are taken care of. if we resign gortat we have flexibility between howard, gortat, anderson and lewis. we need a solid back up at the 3.
p.s. i miss courtney
Nah' mean, nah'm sayin
by Dr Things on Jun 25, 2009 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The offseason is far from over
"One thing about knowing that you're dying is that it keeps reminding you you're alive so it's no time to pass up a party."
- Warren Zevon
by Wally Balls 407 on Jun 25, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it sucks
I gotta watch the draft on here cuz my cousin is watching something retarded on TV.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, sorry about that.
The CoverItLive software screwed up.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UGH . . I feel sick to my stomach!
Not because I hat VC but I REALLY don’t wanna lose HEDO!!
I know his numbers are replacable but his intangibles may not be :(
And losng C. Lee!! MAN THAT HURTS!!!! I LOVED that kid!!! It’s gonna hurt to see him blossom on another team :(
I just wish it were JJ instead of Lee and AJinstead of Rafer but alas there can only be one LA Clippers and the Nets aren’t that dumb.
PLEASE KEEP HEDO OTIS!!!!!
by blue-blood on Jun 25, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, please keep Hedo.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardly,but if we keep Gortat,we'll be fine.
Remember what basketball is all about? Yeah,matchups,but,also:
ADJUSTMENTS.
by Dzogi on Jun 26, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man why did we have to trade Courtney man?
Again, sorry to sound distracted but this day has been too much!
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by Wasabi Steak on Jun 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how Chris Douglas Roberts going to react to Lee being on his team
I recall last year that Douglas-Roberts was resentful towards Lee being picked ahead of him. Then again, he might have just been resentful to be picked in the 2nd round.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to do it.
Otis said that was the deal breaker.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thabeet to Memphis
Hes gonna be a bust, unfortunately. He got dominated by a 6’7" Dajuan Blair
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Never a good idea to judge a player based on 1-2 games.
I’m not completely sold on Thabeet, but I think worst-case scenario, he’s going to be a solid starter in the NBA. Players his size always do SOMETHING, unless they’re completely unathletic or too stupid/unmotivated to learn the game. We know Thabeet’s a good athlete for a center, and he certainly displayed an ability/willingness to learn in college.
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good example. Jerome James.
Was terrible but had 1 good playoff series and it got him a huge contract. Too bad he was too stupid to learn the game and to unathletic to fare well. What a shame. And I saw it coming. My buddies used to take turns dunking on him when we in college. He never touched a ball before high school but had great size.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards and Rays! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking of Olowokandi.
But it’s the same basic point — Thabeet is not that guy. Everything I’ve heard or read about him says the same thing: he’s smart, hard-working, and motivated. He’s obviously not a huge scorer, and while he’s become a much better rebounder, I’m not sure he has the inborn capacity to be a truly great one. Defense is of course going to be the thing he’s going to have to stake his reputation on. Not at all sure he was the second-best guy in this year’s draft, but I have to believe he’ll make it work.
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, am I the only one who forgot about the draft because of all the news in Basketball and in Showbiz today?
Like screw the draft Vince and Shaq got traded and Michael Jackson died! wow…
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Kristin Kreuk is teh love.
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Jun 25, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha yea, I feel that way too.
Vince Carter!!!!!! :)
by derekk on Jun 25, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good move by OKC not falling for the Rubio hype!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm now wondering where the guy will end up
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Minnesota?
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could fall all the way to Knicks. Could you imagine the fan reaction if they picked him? Remember last year?
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest, I don't
Was is positive or negative for Danilo?
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a major NYC style WTF! lol
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the bow tie that James Hardin is sporting
I wish I knew how to tie one.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another team not falling for the hype!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota just has to take them.
They only have 2 guards on their roster at this point.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take him, rather.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tyreke Evans was inspired by Penny?
I’m not sure if that is a good thing or a bad one.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on, a lotta players grew up admiring Penny
Lebron. T-Mac, Kobe, C Lee, Ariza, Nick Young
He was that dude in the early 90s. People need to let go of the later years
"My features are that of a god, its not a facade these rappers wanna be NaS"- Nasir Jones QB's Finest
Kristin Kreuk is teh love.
Still miss em: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvvgVn0gg1E
by Wasabi Steak on Jun 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rubio is NOT gonna like it in Minnesota
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most of my family is from MN. Only Swedes and Fins like it up there! lol
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting...
Two PGs in back-to-back picks for Wolves.
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They are probably trading that pick
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that's the case, then I think the team that is trading for Flynn wins unless they give up too much. He's gonna be a better pro than Rubio IMO.
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but Rubio will be a ticket draw for Minnesota fans
That is probably more attractive to them.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what happened to the draft thread?
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What are the chances we re-sign Hedo or Gortat?
Im most worried about Hedo going more than anything right now. Im happy we got VC, sad we lost CLee and am seriously worried about the Hedo situation. Otis has work to do.
"Blue and white...ignite...* BOOOOOM * !!!!! - Dwight Howard (Orlando Magic playoff jumbotron message)
by magic12ball on Jun 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm fine with it
if we get either one of them back or someone comparable
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, we have to resign Hedo
That will be a scary good starting lineup for the Magic with a solid bench.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Knicks fans everyone suddenly hate the Warriors!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Knicks fans not liking the Warriors right now.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why are they booing?
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because they wanted Curry to fall to the Knicks!
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by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knick fans wanted Curry desperately.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, thanks
my internet was being stupid, so I never saw your response till now :|
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, Knicks fans
question answered
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the Knick fans will boo whoever they pick now
Just because it won’t be Rubio or Curry.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, they are Knicks fans......
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, they booed.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jordan Hill could be good
They need someone to replace D Lee if he bolts.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's gonna just LOOOOVE playing there
I suddenly feel bad for Larry Hughes.
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should never feel bad about Larry Hughes
Dude is absolutely terrible.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol hahaha I know
but the booing….I can see how it can be really demoralizing.
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
poor guy :-/
booing him on draft night? Asses.
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking that pick was for the Wolves and they are trading for Flynn
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Must improve finishing strong? WTF does that even mean?
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lmao
it means trying to answer the question when your mind is in a million places :D
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN had it up for what he needed to improve
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh lol
I wasn’t listening to him and wasn’t watching the tv, so I fail.
So…I guess he has to improve upon finishing strong at the basket? lol I dunno ¯\(°_o)/¯
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeMar DeRozan is DeLicious
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
interesting choice of words to describe him.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
by Wmillion on Jun 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only word at the moment I could think of that started with "de"
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My initial view: Skepticism
We just made it to the NBA Finals and there was no reason to believe, even with the Cavs’ acquisition of Shaq, that we couldn’t return next season. Assuming we don’t resign Turk, this trade completely changes the chemistry of our team.
And it may help us. But given that we don’t need a lot of help, why risk so much?
It was time to trade Battie and Alston, despite their important contributions to the team in the past. Losing Lee, on the other hand, is painful. And I’ll be very upset if Hedo walks.
I hope my skepticism proves to be incorrect.
by gift of the magi on Jun 25, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice flaptop, Brandon
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
did Milwaukee just take another PG?
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes I wonder what the Bucks front office is thinking...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, this
commentators are having trouble saying nice things about him. Sad.
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aw your sig makes me sad
Courtney…. :(
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, right? I guess I have to frame my CLee jersey now.
Today sucks!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, today totally sucks
I have a Hedo jersey. Still don’t know how that’s gonna turn out. :(
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might no longer be a magic fan
because of the amount of playing time JJ is going to get with Lee gone.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol you and me both
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"it's not about winning if you're the New Jersey Nets right now"
lol what
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what a lot of teams are doing right now.
Trying to save money for 2010 free agents.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Terrence Williams to NJ
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by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He went earlier than I thought he would.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
couple of them did, imho
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sucks that we don't have any picks :-/
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess we don't like rookies. =(
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I knoooow *cries*
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my uncle's name is Gerald
/useless info
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's Vince freakin Carter!
How fitting that he ends up in Orlando with a chance at a title. The man will play rejuvinated. What a weapon to have on the outside with D12 inside. Magic fans wake up! Otis is making big time moves. That’s what it takes to win titles! Ask LA and Boston what it’s like. Yeah we love Lee and our team but truth is we had alot of luck making the finals. Lee was undersized vs elite teams like Bos, Clev and LA. No Garnett and incredible shooting vs Cavs will not likely happen again. It’s Vinsanity! I love how people question his age, how about Pierce, Kobe, and Shaq?
by O-Town MagiCane on Jun 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh you and your logic :(
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaq is old and should retire.
He plays in about 5-6 min. stretches and won’t play every game. Pierce is looking out of shape too me. Kobe still has some years left but he’s younger.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its going to take some getting used to,
but Vince is the HUGE upgrade for Magic. He can play with a team, playmake, and take over if the Magic play like they forgot whats offense like they love to do at times.
by derekk on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What are you thinking when your son gets dressed?"
stupidest.question.ever
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tyler Hansborough wow
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm so excited!
I want Blair to go to Chicago, which now looks like it will happen. Although Hansborough shouldn’t have gone this earlier.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm beginning to think fans shouldn't be allowed at these things anymore
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How Hansborough gets drafted ahead of Lawson baffles the mind!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL at Indiana
Wow, thats a reach. Guess theyre looking for the next Rik Smits.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Overrated chant? Gotta love Knicks fans! lol
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh, really
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will be a good role player
But yeah, theres way more talented players still on the board.
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I beginning to think all basketball players pocess the inability to talk
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ha, true
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't watching at the time
who went #1
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, sorry
I’m was making dinner and had forgotten about it at the time and am too lazy to look it up
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hm. I had more of a response there.
er, what I said was that I was making dinner at the time and had forgotten about the draft, then was too lazy to look it up
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just think it's funny that question had to be asked.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a funny gal
and lazy
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pistons take Austin Daye
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh good, it's Dick Vitale :|
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's quite a guarantee, Dick o.O
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
James Johnson to the Bulls
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Heir Apparent to Andre Miller?
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ANOTHER point guard
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Minnesota likes PGs
Definitely some trades about to go down
Shaq sucks.
by Paul Finger on Jun 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So which one do they keep?
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's gotta be
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another PG for the Wolves? I just don't get it...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know what Minnesota is doing?
There has to be a trade.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lawson to the Nuggets
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
saying he's going to Denver
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good, I hope they beat the Lakers this year.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ha, this
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DeJuan Blair goes here? Boozer an upcoming FA...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's what I thought was going to happen.
Blair has knee problems. Maybe that’s why.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmph...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jazz take Eric Maynor
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A PG on a team that already has Deron Williams? When they had need at PF and a good one still available 20?
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol Duke player going to a Carolina team
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gah, coach whatever
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh they're gonna talk to Shaq
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh they wanna talk to the #1 pick from ~17 years ago~
gag
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clevland is going to be E GO trippin
big time with Lebron and Shaq.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it'll be beautiful to witness when it happens
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They weren't kidding when they said it was a guard heavy draft! Jeesh...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
14 out of 21 so far are guards!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know!
are there even any centers there?
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thabeet, and that's about it...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sad
that’s a guard-centric league for ya
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Oden looks so old :-/
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
another Spaniard
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol nothing!
they were saying this was the first time two Spaniards were drafted. I’m sorry!
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
:( don't be maaad
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol Shaq would never be happy coming off the bench
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow first Israeli-born player in the NBA!
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, not the first one drafted
but if he plays, he will be
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the first one in the first round!
shut up, Squid
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry for the snafu with the draft thread.
.. the CoverItLive software wasn’t working.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
s'all right
are you two able to talk at all?
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just got home from the press conference.
I can talk for a little bit .. then have to write up stuff.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, heh, I meant were you and Ben able to talk to one another
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, yeah, of course.
We chatted for a few hours.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool
did you save a transcript or anything?
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao hahaha
you know me too well
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a transcript of the press conference ..
.. and quotes from chatting with Otis Smith.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, uh huh...sure! :P
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's teh buzz at RVD about the trade?
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by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's .. interesting.
I was able to chat it up with the Sentinel guys and we all agree this is a “go for it all” move.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
acquiring Grant Hill and McGrady was a "going for it all" move
and look how that turned out
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of.
.. much different circumstances.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh lemme be depressed
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still no DeJuan Blair.
Interesting…
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he has any knees left
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he falls to the 2nd...
which he won’t haha
i’ll take him.
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Las Vegas commercial was...oddly hilarious! lol
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how can Stern not pronounce Guadalupe??
Jesus
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This guy is from Guadaloupe. Isn't that where Peaches is from?
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm watching The Girlfriend Experience
there’s a draft going on err something?
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what's The Girlfriend Experience
or do I not want to know
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
WELL
it has Sasha Grey who IS a pornstar, BUT theres only one nude scene and it’s by steven soderberg (the guy behind the oceans movies)
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why didn't the Mavs just draft the French guy?
Is there that much of a salary difference between the 24th and 25th picks that a trade needed to be made here?
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rodrique Beaubois
Rod-reeg Bo-bwah
NEVER SAY IT WRONG AGAIN
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rodrigue, no Q
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fweeee-doe
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
skwid
~duh
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no. never. sorry.
and if thats the case then:
fway-dough
duh
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol actually that's good to know
I never knew how to pronounce it :D
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my name in French
is le calmar géant
/useless information
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone uncovered more analysis of the Magic trade?
The draft bores me— it’s a non-issue for our team.
by gift of the magi on Jun 25, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's another player gone from the list BenQ made of players of interest in a potential trade up into the 2nd round...
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excuse me, the first player from the list gone!
Jeff Pendergraph
Jon Brockman
Taj Gibson Gone!
Sergio Llull
A.J. Price
Jeremy Pargo
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blair must have broke both his knees.
How bad could they be.
by Ariel112 on Jun 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting though
maybe only I care about (peter king anyone?)
But, if Rafer didn’t want to play behind Jameer (I know we don’t know this, but whatever) how’s he gonna feel about being #2 to Devin Harris?
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think .. that question is irrelevant, at this point.
That’s New Jersey’s issue now.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I understand that E, its “a basketball question”.
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was willing under Jameer and here on the Magic
but now that he’s been traded again within 6 months, to a team that’s unlikely to be in the playoffs for a while….I dunno
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know, to be honest.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh... I never even thought of that.
NJ really doesn’t have any need for the guy, do they? So they were pretty much talking Carter and Anderson for Lee and expiring contracts?
It is worth remembering that NJ is one of the teams rumored to be in the hunt for Lebron…
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Nets getting LeBron is unlikely. Not impossible, but I don't see it happening.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
At this point, they’re just as New York as the Knicks, and have the added bonus of not being an absolute unsalvageable mess.
But of course the main point isn’t whether the Nets have a shot at Lebron — the main point is whether the Nets THINK they have a shot at Lebron. (Or whether the Nets’ fans think they have a shot at Lebron — if they clear the cap room, and then Lebron goes elsewhere, well, at least they can say they tried…)
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 26, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carroll to Memphis
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol what??
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
shhhhhhh
The Schnozberries taste like Schnozberries
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you high? lol
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO!
Just bored. LONG DAY
esp. in the news….
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can you be bored with this exhillarating draft going on?!?!
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mean!
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
oh come on…
it’s a dream of mine as a hater of Squidward…the bastard.
by fwedo on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol poor Squidward
he gets a bad rap
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're prejudiced again cephalopods
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
~smart~ is the word you're looking for
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmpf
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wolves take another PG here? lol
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Close, they take a SG instead!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dejuan blair is going to be steal of draft, he reminds me of carlos boozer 2.0
And are teh Magic going to buy/trade for a 2nd rounder? Nothing creeping out from thier camp on the draft. Atleast if Levance Fields is not drafted at all, Magic will get him for theri summer league and see from there. I think the Vince Carter blockbuster was taking all thier focus and time, and what a great deal!!!!!!!!
by derekk on Jun 25, 2009 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Knicks pick up
oh joy :|
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Darko sighting!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ew
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey someone from FSU!
um, yay? How am I supposed to do this thing again? I went to a undergrad school whose mascot was a hat. Should I cheer?
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol I don't care either way
again, my undergrad school’s mascot was a hat. Sports were not our forte.
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol I am currently enrolled at FSU
"One thing about knowing that you're dying is that it keeps reminding you you're alive so it's no time to pass up a party."
- Warren Zevon
by Wally Balls 407 on Jun 26, 2009 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh, I'm here now going for my graduate degree, hence my confusion ;)
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 26, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cavs take Christian i...ang...a
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eyenga
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, my fries are ready
interesting draft….I guess. ’Night, everyone.
Courtney, nooooooooooooo! :(
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Later.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright gang, going to watch the 2nd round from bed. G'nite!
Let's observe a moment of silence for CLee, Skip to my Lou, and Batman... *cry*
by malars on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Take it easy.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, I need to head out folks.
Good chatting with everyone .. sorry about the live blog. That was an epic fail on the part of Ben and I. The software didn’t work. We suck. Like I said above, this has turned into a draft thread so whatever works.
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by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At what point do we buy a pick here to get Blair
It just seems like an obvious fit to me. DeVos, open that damn check book.
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 25, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
would be nice to take him
Never will I ever utter "never" to myself
Fall in love with defeat, throw my endeavors on the shelf
I never back up like Cleo Lemon or myself - WALE
by EX-TREME on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sheed says Orlando and San Antonio are his first and second options
"One thing about knowing that you're dying is that it keeps reminding you you're alive so it's no time to pass up a party."
- Warren Zevon
by Wally Balls 407 on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm baffled by the Wolves.
Yeah, they traded Lawson. But still… once they had Rubio, the obvious other choice was Curry. A tall pass-first PG with no outside shot, paired with a PG/SG with a deadly one. They would’ve complemented each other perfectly. And they took… Jonny Flynn? Who the hell is Jonny Flynn, and why?
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rubio is staying over in Europe.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough...
But he’s still part of their plans in the long run. I just don’t see Flynn as anything more than an average player in the NBA, and quite possibly less.
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
link
Never will I ever utter "never" to myself
Fall in love with defeat, throw my endeavors on the shelf
I never back up like Cleo Lemon or myself - WALE
by EX-TREME on Jun 25, 2009 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=918341
"One thing about knowing that you're dying is that it keeps reminding you you're alive so it's no time to pass up a party."
- Warren Zevon
by Wally Balls 407 on Jun 25, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hmm
chemestry wpoul be a problem
Never will I ever utter "never" to myself
Fall in love with defeat, throw my endeavors on the shelf
I never back up like Cleo Lemon or myself - WALE
by EX-TREME on Jun 25, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
would*
Never will I ever utter "never" to myself
Fall in love with defeat, throw my endeavors on the shelf
I never back up like Cleo Lemon or myself - WALE
by EX-TREME on Jun 25, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh no
noooooooo spurs got blair
Never will I ever utter "never" to myself
Fall in love with defeat, throw my endeavors on the shelf
I never back up like Cleo Lemon or myself - WALE
by EX-TREME on Jun 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
darko to NY for richardson.
wow.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards and Rays! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it possible for both teams to lose a trade?
(At least Richardson used to be good.)
Yeah, and we broke your damn shot clock too.
by 3.3seconds on Jun 25, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1. My mistake. -10.
That’s how the trade will affect each team in thw win/loss column.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards and Rays! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jun 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is bad... AND sad
I’m with you 100% on this one ER; It’s a harsh, unbalanced trade that deals out one of our most dependable, energetic, inspiring and young talents, LEE, PLUS two other capable players; for ONE remarkable, productive, BUT aging SMALL player, plus ANOTHER young, less-reliable and productive big guy.
Alston and Battie, I can understand… HECK, I even suggested a trade with Battie and Alston as bait. But; to ADD Courtney Lee… it’s SAD, SAD, SAD…. sad, AND DEFLATING. Almost everyone I talked to envisioned Lee as part of THE Youth nucleus, with Nelson and Dwight. Lee is a sure-fire NBA ALL-Star in just two more years, with a whole lifetime to develop and blossom with. His FOCUS and INTENSITY are UNMATCHED in the Magic Team… well; MAYBE by Gortat. PLUS; THIS also means we lose TURK! Such a LACK of vision!
THIS is soooo low…
On a strictly personal level; HOW do I explain THIS to my daughter???
HOW do you tell an 8-year-old that her HERO; the ONE she carries his number and the one she says she’s him when she tries, valiantly but clumsily to dribble; HOW do I tell her that her favorite star, her favorite player in the WHOLE NBA, is NO LONGER part of HER Magic Team?
Boy… I’ve got my work cut out for me!
by manny55 on Jun 26, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just tell her the truth.
“Daddy’s got a suprise for you honey. Something even better than Turk. Something you can actually see (Turk goes for stretches where he is invisible). A real game changer. And a home town hero, Vince Carter.”
See that was easy. It just rolled off the tongue.
Life's too short. Be a fan. Magic, Cards and Rays! What a winning combo.
by hevchv on Jun 26, 2009 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was bitter when I first heard it but...
Imo I don’t think C Lee will ever average 20+ ppg in his NBA career. As much as I love Courtney, his downfall is that he’s undersized and that showed in the finals. Like I said, the trade had me shaking my head at first but now I think it could only benefit Orlando. Vince gives us a bonafide allstar that is capable of putting up great numbers as well as helping out with rebounds and assists (he’s a better passer than the media gives him credit for and Hedo for that same matter). He said that this trade was a dream come true so you know he understands his role in the franchise. Idk, I’m an optimist but Vince in Orlando sound like the start of many good things…
"One thing about knowing that you're dying is that it keeps reminding you you're alive so it's no time to pass up a party."
- Warren Zevon
by Wally Balls 407 on Jun 26, 2009 2:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to like the trade now too
If Hedo is resigned, this is absolutely awesome. Even if Hedo doesn’t, Otis did a terrific job in getting the Magic a replacement elite player.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 26, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think about this.
The Magic have 4 All-Stars.
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by erivera7 on Jun 26, 2009 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it almost makes me giddy
Especially since Dwight will probably be 15-25% improved next year. This coming season cannot come fast enough for me now.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 26, 2009 4:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone hear about Rasheed narrowing it down to San Antonio and Orlando?
That line up has championship written all over it.
"One thing about knowing that you're dying is that it keeps reminding you you're alive so it's no time to pass up a party."
- Warren Zevon
by Wally Balls 407 on Jun 26, 2009 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, somebody posted that on these boards, but I haven't seen anything about it otherwise out on the web
I’m all for getting Rasheed as long as it means that Cleveland or Boston don’t get him.
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by funny80sguy on Jun 26, 2009 4:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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