Off-Day Open Thread: A Question For Orlando Magic Fans
Today, Andrea Adelson wrote an excellent article about the Orlando Magic fans and ponders whether or not the overwhelming support for the team - visible around the city and at the Amway Arena during the postseason - will continue next season.
Here's a few choice excerpts from the piece:
One angry reader, Nichole Bryant, e-mailed me after that Game 5 loss to the Lakers in the Finals, saying, "I am appalled at some of the Magic fans who were in the Arena. I don't care if the Magic were down 100-1, all those fans should have been cheering and rooting their team on for the whole 48+ minutes."
You don't want to be known as a bunch of bandwagon fair-weather fans ready to jump off at the first sign of trouble, do you? You want to be known as some of the best fans in the NBA.
Can you sustain the excitement and the passion and the interest for your team for more than a few playoff games?
That is your challenge headed into next season. Do you accept?
"They know they have something to look forward to," Magic guard Jameer Nelson said. "It's not a question in anybody's head. Previous years going into the season people were like, 'Well, maybe last year was a fluke.' We're a good team, and we deserve some respect and I think we gained just a little bit."
"We have to keep the momentum going," Martins said. "We have to make sure that we continue to be out in the community, keep the brand strong, keep the brand out in the forefront during the course of the summer and then as we build into next season. We as an organization will not make this a flash in the pan."
Of course, the Magic have a duty to put a competitive team on the court. Loyalty is a two-way street, and the Magic appear committed to keeping this team together, indicating they might go over the salary cap to keep Hedo Turkoglu.
[...] listen to fan Stephen Kerkhoff, 21, who has been a Magic fan his whole life.
When asked about whether the fan momentum can be sustained, he said: "The biggest thing is re-signing Hedo Turkoglu," he said. "He's such a fan favorite now, even more than Rashard Lewis and probably just as much as Dwight Howard because he's so recognizable. If they don't re-sign him, that's going to be a huge hit for the fan base."
What does the community think? Will the support sustain itself next season?
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Probably not
This team is not sexy enough for the average fan and doesn’t get pumped up enough by the national media for the fair weather fan to really stay tuned.
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
Yep, I can agree
Its alittle embarrassing, theres not as strong a fanbase as anyother playoff city too I think. They’re stil getting a lot of money with a deep playoff run, but its going to take the Magic more playoff runs like last year and a title sometime for Orlando to really wake up and be supportful. I was drowned out by LA chants at certain points in game 5 like that nichole bryant was saying. I dont mind it too much, otherwise I wouldnt go, but the truth is, Orlando is still a weak fanbase.
It's weak, only because the Magic haven't been able to win consistently enough.
That’s been a problem in the past. Not so much now, of course.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
I don't think the team will ever get pumped up enough by the national media.
.. just can’t see it happening. I do think the franchise has appeal for the average fan (Dwight Howard, etc).
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
With the right promotion you could see it in the future.
I think the fan base is growing and the exposure from the finals definitely put the Magic out there. I’ve been a fan since ‘89 and i think this team has put the Magic back on the map. I think it will continue as long as the team is winning. I have seen the fan base decline over the years and IMO it’s beacause the fair weather fans abandon ship during the down years. Winning wins fans.
The Surfdog
Word.
That’s good.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
If Turkis back GREAT!!
If not GREAT too!!
Orlando MAGICS if 1st and foremost!!
I better have TRUE fans of the Magics than bandwagoners! Those come and go!!
I have taken a beating for been a Magic fan(ImfromPuerto Rico), since day one and that was in 1992,went they drafted Shaq “the imbesile”. Never look back and even tho im more a Dolphins fan, i always try to go to a MMagic game went i domy yearly trip to Miami for a Fin game! This was a great season,like the 95 one, but better, cause we did something diff, we lost 2 games that coulld change the history of the finals. I have been fighting with me friends(with words) about the Magics,so it has been a lil tuff forme,but now im feeling good and ready to get started next season.
About been a fan,i will keepbuying jerseys,baseball caps, etc and trying to acomodate a Magics game in the Dolphinns schedule as always, soo count on me. Dont really care about bandwagons!!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
Yeah, it's nice to stick with the team through thick and thin.
Those are the fans I respect .. more so than the ones that jump on and off the bandwagon.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Winners get the crowd...
I was a little embarrassed by the Lakers-heavy crowds in Game Four and Game Five. The Lakers are a team that have a large fan base throughout the country (and a few people who only care about superstars). The same thing happens with the LeBrons. And I think the same thing happened with Boston.
Fans are attracted to winners. There is no deep-seeded attachment to the Magic. They have only been around for 20 years and struggled a lot. That is not how to build a fan base with people (read: kids) who can say this is my team, not just my town’s team.
If Orlando can maintain success next year, it may not just be a bandwagon full of fair-weathered fans. The actual fan base might grow (and we might get some of those national bandwagoners). I know SO many people who told me in high school and once I got to college that they were Magic fans back in the mid-90s.
Winning a title will get the attachment the team needs to build a true fan base. Orlando cannot leave the national spotlight right now.
Philip,
The Curse of the Big Aristotle
http://bigaristotle.blogspot.com/
Orlando may have only been around for 20 years but ..
.. the team has had some semblance of success in half of the franchise’s history.
I do agree that it’s key for the Magic to continue to win, that way some momentum is being established with the fan base and the popularity of the team continues to grow as it becomes more and more visible.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Dido!!
We have to contenue the momentun! For all the fan that still dont beleive! And didnt tho we will be inthe finals! The team need to jumpstar there true colors again. Imreferring to Magics fans that got disconnected with the team, because of the failure. If they see that this was NO fluke, they will comeback to the Arena.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
Yes... I'll take Andrea's Challenge
I speak for myself when I say that the support for the Magic WILL be there next year, regardless of the Turk situation. I know, my family and I WILL be there; we will even commit to going to a couple of games (can’t do much more; just got out of bankruptcy a few years back, PLUS the Am Arena is NOT very wheelchair accessible-few fixed spots)
But I did not miss a single game, either on TV, or the radio. All the way to the end.
By the way, I digress of Andrea’s assessment of the end of game reaction. The fans turned their backs and left, NOT in reproach, or rejection of our Team, but on rejection of the whole Lakers Hoopla.
The Lakers won… or, rather we gave them this series; don’t matter. They deserved it. Congrats! BUT, I don’t have to KEEP rooting for THEM the whole night on!
I watched the Trophy presentation and turned the TV OFF. I LOVE OUR TEAM! I WILL support it any way I CAN. BUT, I don’t care for the Lakers 15th priced banner (though I really liked the OLD Lakers, with Jabbar, Worthy, Magic, etc…) and I am REALLY up to here (you know where) of the Lakers Legacy, the hyperbolic praise, the endless butt-kissing by the media. Season’s OVER; let’s get on with LIFE and see what happens next…
What did Andrea want? That the fans should have STAYED, give the LAKERS a 5-minute standing ovation? If I had gone, personally I would have stayed- no applause. But I understand if most fans left right after the final whistle: It’s NOT on OUR Magic; it’s on the Lakers and the whole absurd idolatry behind them THIS year…
We need to EARN our FIRST banner… trophy. We NEED it; the city NEEDS it. ALL of us who live in this small, beautiful landscape full of lakes, serene and secluded spots, yes, and this capital of lightning: We NEED this FIRST championship… and we WILL stand by OUR Team next year and for the next 20!
I will say somethingifu left before the final whisle!
but if u stay there until the end and then went home,thats a real fan. manny55 is right!! We DONT have to stay there and applaud the mood waters, they have the media and koby fan(no laker fan) to do so.
If i was a the final game,maybe i would go to the Magics bench and thanks the players for amazing season and to bring home the Champ next year and them leave the Arena,but thats a maybe or maybe not. BUt the fan were classi and stay there after the final whisle,atleast thats what i saw on tv.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
Hedo Turkoglu
It’s funny how quick fan sentiment changes. He was not so well-liked, as I recall, for the first few games of the Philadelphia series. I participated in some Orlando sentinel live chats and the calls for Hedo’s head were unrelenting. Everyone seemed to agree they wanted him gone. Now, apparently, he’s the fan favorite (besides Dwight, obviously). How quickly things change.
That wasn't the sentiment here.
Sure, there was some frustration over Hedo’s play but that was about it.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
The be honest!
Turk is good but not THAT good!! He miss a LOT of easy shoots,them he save his butt by making a couple of 3’s. Overall hhe was a decent player maker, but not outstanding. He can be replace fr sure. The team dinamic is made for shooters, so anyone can shoot on open shoots. Look at this, we bring Alstod, Prietus, Johnson etc, all of them have great carrer stats THIS year in MAGIC uniform. Thats because Howard is in the middle getting doble and triple coverage,so u r gona have a lots of oopen shoots.
So! As long as Howard is in Magic uniforn we r good for a couple of runs to the final!!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
Hedo can't be replaced that easily.
There’s not a lot of 6’10’’ small forwards that can handle the point, shoot the ball, etc. .. available.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
The Magic have my respect.
However, unless Howard develops an actual post game, he will never fully realize his potential. I’m going to make a suggestion that will probably make long-time Magic fans cringe and/or call for my blood: get rid of Patrick Ewing and replace him with Hakeem Olajuwon. I respect Ewing as a player, but The Dream destroyed him in the Finals, and was a vastly superior center in nearly all aspects. Seeing Dwight equipped with his version of the Dream Shake would probably make most opposing centers pee their pants with fear. Just a thought, feel free to castigate me to your hearts content if you like(or laud me as a genius, that works too.)
Detras de ti, imbecil.
Howard has a post game .. it's just still a work in progress.
I like Patrick Ewing, but I think his work with Dwight has been a little overrated. If I had my choice, I definitely would choose Hakeem. I think that’s a no-brainer. Olajuwon is a legend and a winner.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
a little rant on bandwagons
What pisses me off is not the bandwagon fans (come on, give them a break, there’s a first time for everyone), but how the media/general nba public’s disrespect extends to us fans, especially the perception that bandwagon fans are all the Magic’s got. I mean, every time a new poster show up on a Magic chat/board, he/she needs to include the obligatory “fan since early 90s,” and make some reference to the cat man just to shed the bandwagon label (like I just did, see). That shouldn’t be required.
Just because we don’t flood chatrooms and mailbags with questions about who’s gonna get traded or if the coach is gonna get fired doesn’t mean we don’t care about the Magic. The guys hopping on the bandwagon are mostly not magic fans, but everyone else, the pundits who never paid any attention to the Magic during the mediocre years. Now Magic is good out of no where, people were like, wow, look at these Magic fans, we never seen them before, they must just hopped on the bandwagon. You know why you seen the bandwagon fans? because you are on that same bandwagon. you never seen the Magic fans because you’ve been ignoring us, just like you’ve been ignoring the Magic.
If ignoring a mediocre team is what you do, fine, I can accept that, just don’t start assuming we are all like you.

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