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Orlando Magic News for June 19th: Estimating Hedo Turkoglu's Worth, Grading Player Performance, and More

  • Orlando Magic Daily compares Hedo Turkoglu's performance to those of some of his contemporaries at small forward this season and tries to assess a fair market value for his services.

    $9 million [...] seems like a fair number for Turkoglu. If the Magic can keep the contract at four years - $36 million over that span seems good - then the Magic should pull the trigger.

  • The Orlando Sentinel looks back at 2008/2009 and grades each Magic player, as well as coach Stan Van Gundy. Shameless plug alert: 3QC will run its own player evaluations starting sometime next week.

  • Sentinel columnist George Diaz thinks Dwight Howard needs to toughen up, without losing his charm:

    I'd rather deal with a good guy than a jerk any day. I hope that Howard finds some way to reconcile those two paths.

    But I do think he needs to get more edgy. Losing in the NBA Finals, and the criticism that comes with it, will drive him to become a better player.

  • ESPN.com analyst John Hollinger chatted with readers yesterday, and responded to a question about the possibility of the Magic trading Rafer Alston this summer. His response:

    Alston is highly likely to be dealt because Orlando already is paying [Jameer] Nelson and [Anthony] Johnson, so they'd rather use that $5 million salary slot on a frontcourt player (or for a nonguaranteed deal to put them under the tax).

  • Finally, Tim Povtak of NBA FanHouse looks at the Southeast Division landscape and predicts what each team might try to do in the draft. There's not much with which to work here, since the Magic have no draft picks in either round, while the Miami Heat do not have a first-round selection.

  • Eddy here, with some late night updates.

  • UPDATE: This morning at City Hall, Magic CEO Alex Martins and the entire Orlando front office took to the streets in downtown to thank the fans. 

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  • Meet Magic coach Stan Van Gundy, construction worker
    UPDATE 2: Want to see Orlando Magic head coach Stan Van Gundy in a hard hat and bright yellow vest? Click on the link to check out the picture. 

  • Dwight Howard scared of Shaq? Not very likely
    UPDATE 3:
    I’m of the opinion that Shaq joining LeBron James in Cleveland would be a good thing for the Magic. I love Shaq, but the Big Fella is getting slower by the minute while Dwight Howard just gets better and better. [...]

    As long as LeBron’s there, the Cavs will be a brutal out in the NBA Playoffs. But let’s face it, the Diesel (if traded) would just be along for the ride. The scarier prospect for me is Cleveland adding a younger stud or two to pair with James. 
  • HAVING FUN ON TWITTER
    UPDATE 4: Dwight Howard posts on his official blog, today.

    For those of you asking, I will be back in the gym working hard this summer. But I’m going to rest a little bit before I get back to work. During the Finals I was interviewed by Bill Russell and he told me that it was important for me to take some time to rest my body after the Finals. With the Olympics, I’ve basically been playing basketball for a year straight. As Mr. Russell suggested, it’s time to step away from basketball for a little bit.

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I like both quotes.
But I do think he needs to get more edgy. Losing in the NBA Finals, and the criticism that comes with it, will drive him to become a better player.

Alston is highly likely to be dealt because Orlando already is paying [Jameer] Nelson and [Anthony] Johnson, so they’d rather use that $5 million salary slot on a frontcourt player (or for a nonguaranteed deal to put them under the tax).

I like both, I hope we can get some added depth by moving Raf. He is decent player, who doesn’t nothing above avg.

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z

by Wmillion on Jun 19, 2009 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Howard will continue to improve.

Remember, he’s only 23.

As for Rafer, all the rumblings I’ve been hearing indicate that he’s probably going to be moved.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone

by erivera7 on Jun 19, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

great.

I can’t wait..

I agree Dwight is 23 and determined to get better, so he will. He just needs feel comfortable going to different move, so the moves become natural.

"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z

by Wmillion on Jun 19, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Howard will be fine.

He’ll have the off-season to concentrate on improving his offensive game.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone

by erivera7 on Jun 20, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they were smart they wouldn't

Rafer has acknowledged that he isn’t the starting PG.

He is a player that can only complement the line up.
He did a fine job getting to the finals.

Mix him up in the line up other than PG position.
Run him along with Nelson as a 2 guard in a fast lineup

Then see what happens

by Cacique on Jun 22, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I read somewhere that he...

would be willing to stay even if the Magic’s offer is a little less than someone else’s. So unless someone waaaay overbids for him, I’m sure he’s staying here.

by bandrewg08 on Jun 19, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hedo will most likely stay in Orlando.

.. especially since the team confirmed it WILL pay the luxury tax to keep him.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone

by erivera7 on Jun 19, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what we're hoping for.

But I’d like to see some examples of that “hometown discount”. It seems logical,but how many players have really accepted less money to stay in their hometowns?
And,what amount of $ is “acceptable less”?

by Dzogi on Jun 21, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's been done before.

.. I can’t think of any off the top of my head, but it’s been done before.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone

by erivera7 on Jun 21, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of loyalty, John Amaechi turned down a much larger offer from the Lakers in order to stay with the Magic

Screwed everyone, as I recall. Amaechi regressed, and he missed out on a chance to join the Lakers during their early-00s dominance.

Not sure who backed Shaq up in those years (Greg Foster? Mark Madsen?) but there’s no way he was better than Amaechi.

Arenas also took less than the max to stay with Washington; Al Jefferson didn’t ask for a max extension to stay with Minnesota (he said he hadn’t earned it); and Tim Duncan agreed to sign for less than the max to keep the Spurs’ salary-cap situation flexible in the future.

by Evan Dunlap on Jun 21, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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