Hola, Me Llamo Fran Vazquez
I know that the name of Fran Vazquez incites the feeling of frustration or what not to hometown fans, given that he famously jilted the Orlando Magic in 2005 after being selected #11 in the NBA Draft. But as Ben pointed out several months back, the reports coming from Europe have been encouraging for the young Spaniard.
With the stark reality that Marcin Gortat is probably as good as gone in the next few months, general manager Otis Smith may be forced to look for a replacement to the Polish Hammer via free agency, trade, etc. Although it's highly unlikely he comes over from Spain, perhaps Vazquez could theoretically be that guy to replace Gortat.
It's important to state that there are obstacles in the way of Vazquez coming over, mainly his desire to play with Orlando. The $7 million buyout in Fran's contract with Regal FC Barcelona expires after the 2008-2009 season, so if there's a prime opportunity to see if he wants to play for the Magic, now appears to be the time.
Here's what DraftExpress had to say about Vazquez while previewing the Euroleague Final Four, which took place at the beginning of May.
Fran Vazquez – Vasquez is, as we discussed on depth a few months back, a high-level NBA rotation player if he ever decides that he wants to become one. Orlando owns his rights and could be in need of a good backup 4/5 if Marcin Gortat bolts this summer, but it’s unknown at this point how realistic an option that is from Vasquez’s end. Here in Berlin, Vasquez will need to be at his best defensively, cleaning up the glass and running the floor against CSKA's slower big men.
Also, I was able to chat it up with Christophe Rey of Ball in Europe about Fran.
Vazquez is having an important role with his current team Regal FC Barcelona as vertical inside player. Having an above average leaping ability for European standards, he is used as a back-up in Barcelona's rotation behind the physical Daniel Santiago and jump shooting David Andersen. Vazquez is offensively scoring mostly on jump shots around the key or by above the rim plays on pick and roll situations.
Vazquez in comparison to Gortat is less large than Gortat, but can probably run the court faster than he does.
The problem is though that Vazquez did not really seem too interested in joining the NBA after he got drafted. I don't know if that has changed in his mind these days. At least, I did not really hear reports that he considers that option but I may be wrong on this point.
He can be a role player, he is athletic enough to play the NBA. However, he is not the largest and biggest guy in the world which could hurt him on defense against NBA centers. It would be a more complimentary backup for Howard than Gortat has been.
After the jump, a highlight video of Vazquez this past season in Europe, as well as some statistics and conclusions.
One thing is clear, Fran Vazquez can play in the NBA and help a team, specifically the Magic. The question is, again, whether or not Vazquez wants to come overseas to play basketball. Various indications have shown that he does and that he does not. The only person that truly knows is Vazquez, obviously. Another question is, what would Vazquez's salary be if he were to make the jump to the NBA? Looking at the 2005-2006 rookie salary scale, Fran was in line to make roughly $1.5 million in his first year. According to the Collective Bargaining Agreement for the NBA, that would be the money Vazquez would be netting from Orlando. [ed note: More than three seasons passed, so the rookie scale wouldn't take into effect.] Unfortunately, the Magic will be pushing it financially trying to re-sign Hedo Turkoglu, so things get tricky. Even if Vazquez were to want to play for the team next season, he may not be able to.
Ironic.
Clearly the level of competition is different in Europe than it is here, but it's still worth taking a look at the numbers to get a rough idea of Vazquez's production.
| ACB | Euroleague | |
| Minutes Per Game | 22.0 | 19.2 |
| PER | 32.3 (1st) | 26.1 (4th) |
| TS% | 74.0% (1st) | 68.0% (12th) |
| eFG% | 72.0% (1st) | 67.0% (7th) |
| rebounds per 40 minutes/pace adjusted | 12.6 (4th) | 9.9 (20th) |
| blocks per 40 minutes/pace adjusted | 3.3 (1st) | 3.7 (1st) |
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He's not coming.
It would cost him several million dollars and force him to be away from his family (and I believe he just had a baby, but I’m not sure). It’d be awesome for the Magic to get a player of Vazquez’s caliber for the 2005-06 rookie contract, but I just don’t see any way Vazquez decides to come over here.
The only hope Orlando has is that ego forces Vazquez to prove himself in the NBA… highly unlikely. It’s still fun to talk about, though.
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Yep. That's why I said it's highly unlikely.
I don’t see it happening either, which is unfortunate. But like you said, it’s fun to talk about!
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What's the premise they are the same?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
And by the same ER
I mean why Manu didn’t come over?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
The premise I'm referring to is the fact that it took several years for Ginobili to come over.
.. the same thing is happening with Vazquez. That’s the correlation.
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Oh okay
I was going to say, because after all, it’s not like Ginobili had something against the Spurs in coming over.
I think the Spurs were happy to see him kick a ton of you know what while playing at Virtus Bologna.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
No doubt.
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Why boo?
I don’t understand that. Granted, I’m not a Magic fan, but still, I don’t understand why you would boo even with the hard feelings of the fact he spurned the organization for 4 years.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
It teaches players that noone scorns Magic fans
Noone!
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by funny80sguy on Jun 18, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I would boo
for the same reason we all waived diapers at Penny and Horace in 97.
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 18, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
They were crying about something?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
They got the coach fired
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 18, 2009 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
20/20 hindsight and all
Maybe Brian Hill actually deserved to be fired at the time? It just took the players being bad guys to make it happen?
I will admit that at the time I was pro-coach during that drama. But after witnessing the second stint of the Brian Hill era, I’m not sure if he was that good of a coach. He would never made adjustments while sticking with plays that were clearly being countered by the opposing team.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on Jun 18, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I was never a HUGE Hill fan
but the players went about it the worst way possible. I believe every fan was pro coach at the time.
One Freaken Second
by magic fanatic on Jun 18, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, yeah.
Because he led the team to the NBA Finals in 1995 and the Eastern Conference Finals in 1996, along with netting the franchise’s first 60-win season.
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You could have gotten 60 wins outta that team...
…Jes sayin.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I know, that's why I struckthrough the 'he' part of my comment.
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Oh phew, I wasn't quite sure if you were kidding or not despite the strikethrough
I was going to whip out my “he had the benefit of 2 sure-fire first ballot hall of famers while they were still young on his team that could beat other teams by their sheer dominance in spite of his play calling” argument. Obviously Penny won’t make it to the hall of fame since he unfortunately got hurt, but he was absolutely amazing in those early days.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
Yeah, trust me.
if we had a coaching staff of 3QC’ers, we could replicate the success of Brian Hill’s “coaching tenure” with the Orlando Magic. Hah.
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That is so sad
And, I say this having lived, and not really realizing it, through Dick Motta.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I had forgotten about that
Thanks for the reminder. LOL @ getting Brian Hill fired. Yeah, no wonder I don’t remember it. (I never thought Bob Hill was worth that much either.)
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
Brian Hill was .. to be frank, a bad coach.
His success was primarily due to Penny and Shaq.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
The real argument of whether Bob or Brian is worse would be hard to win
Both have long lines of stinkage.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
I always disliked Hill and was never impressed with him as a coach. Thats said I’m glad he got fired and was pulling my hair out when I found out we were re-hiring him.
Thankfully it's all in the past.
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player revolt
good memories :|
We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors.
by TheGiantSquid on Jun 18, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
A player revolt by revolting players...
it has a certain poetic justice about it
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
If the enticement of playing for one of the best teams in the NBA right now isn't enough, I doubt he will ever come
Judging by the highlight film (which probably isn’t a great indicator of Vazquez’s entire game), it looks like he can only awdwardly dunk, so since he probably couldn’t play alongside Dwight, he would only garner about 10-12 minutes a game with the Magic (probably another knock against his coming to the NBA).
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
it would be great if he came over, then he and Pau could hang out and he'd grow out his hair and beard all goofy lookin
by AB's triple double on Jun 18, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah.
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Totally off-topic, but reminded me
…of how pissed off I was that ABC decided to make the Game 5 Halftime Report on Pau Gasol and Placido Domingo.
Isn't it more likely
That we shift Battie back to the backup C role, and let Fazquez (in the unlikely event he comes over) backup Rashard?
Alternatively, we could trade Battie for someone on a $4m, two year deal to backup Howard, to a team that wants to clear cap space for the Great 2010 Free Agent Bonanza. Although I don’t know who that would be off the top of my head.
That's an option, though it's highly unlikely of happening.
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He's almost here.
We can use him for sure and I think he can play. He may want to be part of a contending team. Plus, this is Orlando people, se habla Español!
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
He seems more a Gasol type C/F than a Gortat like C
Though that is not really relevant. Anyway, I liked the player when we picked him and I like him now. If he comes over he fills the need for a big more soundly than does Gortat, mainly because Vasquez is more versatile.
That all said, if we decided to keep Gortat and commit to the Twin Towers approach than I’d be fine never to see Vasquez in a Magic jersey.
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12

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