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Orlando Magic Ranked #15 in John Hollinger's All-Time NBA Franchise Rankings

Yesterday, John Hollinger of ESPN.com revealed his system for ranking every NBA franchise from best to worst in history. Here's how he went about ordering the teams ...

Intro to all-time NBA franchise rankings

..and here's what Hollinger had to say about the Orlando Magic

NBA Franchise Rankings: Orlando Magic No. 15 [ESPN Insider]

Orlando tends to see itself as a star-crossed franchise, and you could certainly make an argument for that. From Nick Anderson's four missed free throws in the 1995 Finals; to Shaquille O'Neal's shady free-agent departure; to the injury woes of Penny Hardaway and Grant Hill; to the bizarre Hockey Guy years; to, perhaps, the missed layup by Courtney Lee in Game 2 of the 2009 Finals, a common thread does seem to run through most of the franchise's history.

But to focus on that is to ignore the biggest story: The Magic have been the most consistently successful of the league's early-'90s expansion teams, and have done it while showcasing several of the game's biggest stars. Shaq, Penny, Tracy McGrady and Dwight Howard would be all-timers in most franchise's pantheons; Magic fans saw all four in a span of a dozen years.

Orlando won 31 games in its second season, was at .500 in its fourth thanks to Shaq, and was in the Finals by Year 6. That was when Anderson's four misses in the final seconds of Game 1 against Houston blew a game in which they had led by 22 points; the Magic never recovered, losing in four. What appeared to be a budding dynasty fizzled when Shaq fled for L.A. two years later and Penny's knees started troubling him, and as a result the Magic didn't get past the first round of the playoffs again until 2008.

They still won, though. Orlando has won at least 36 games in 16 of the past 17 years, and even managed to be decent when "Hockey Guy" John Weisbrod was mangling the roster with deals like trading McGrady for Steve Francis. And with the current edition in the Finals, Orlando seems well poised to move several rungs up the NBA franchise ladder in the near future.

I thought the ranking was fair. Middle-of-the-pack is where I would have placed the Orlando Magic, as well. Having followed the franchise since its inception, I consider myself blessed to experience the numerous peaks and valleys of the team. 

 

Think about it. In 20 years, the Magic have had two franchise centers (Dwight Howard, Shaquille O'Neal), two exciting but troublesome wing players (Penny Hardaway, Tracy McGrady), a fallen superstar (Grant Hill), and more. Who can forget Orlando's first-ever draft pick Nick Anderson, most infamous for The Steal and The Four Missed Free Throws. Who can forget the 'Heart and Hustle' group, led by Darrell Armstrong, Bo Outlaw, and others. Who can forget the plethora of draft picks gone wrong, like Johnny Taylor, Jerryl Sasser, Steven Hunter, and others. 

 

From hitting the jackpot thrice to playing in the NBA Finals twice, it's been a fun and interesting ride for the Magic the past two decades. Usually, you have to experience failure before success in anything you do. Not the case with Orlando, who got to experience success early and often in the early-to-mid 90's, leading people to believe it could be too good to be true. Winning the NBA Draft lottery in back-to-back years? Playing in the NBA Finals during the franchise's sixth year in the league? It almost felt like people took things for granted. Who could blame them?

 

Good fortune seemed to have a permanent residence in the City Beautiful. 

 

Then fate came to pay the city a visit.

 

Shaq and Penny left. Goodbye dynasty. Hello mediocrity. Credit former general manager John Gabriel for trying to "reboot" the team, shrewdly maneuvering the Magic roster to clear space for Tim Duncan, Tracy McGrady, and Grant Hill. Of course, Orlando could only have two of the three free agents and we all know the story there. Duncan stayed in San Antonio. McGrady came and Hill limped in. Talks of a dynasty being reborn were replaced quickly with talks of a franchise in despair. Things got so bad that the Magic were threatened with the possibility of being sold and moved to another city, Kansas City being the main threat to the franchise. 

 

And then something happened. Orlando struck gold, again.

 

Dwight Howard happened. Jameer Nelson happened. Slowly but surely, the Magic were in the process of reinventing itself to be better, bigger, bolder. Then Billy Donovan happened. It seemed the process was ending before it was beginning. The process of regaining glory. The process of restoring order to the city. The process of bringing back Orlando to the forefront of the basketball world. It was all being compromised. Then something funny happened. Good fortune paid a visit again, in the body and name of Stan Van Gundy. An outcast, of sorts, from Miami.

 

Then he went to work. Told Dwight Howard to defend and rebound. Placed Rashard Lewis at power forward and demanded he spaced the floor. Put Hedo Turkoglu at small forward and gave him free reign with the basketball to create for himself and for others. Played Russian Roulette at shooting guard, using Keith Bogans, Maurice Evans, Mickael Pietrus, and Courtney Lee at that spot. Oversaw the development of a point guard evolve from a role player into an All-Star, Jameer Nelson. Let a Polish Hammer, Marcin Gortat, start as a worthless bench player to finish as a valuable role player (and possibly a starter elsewhere in the Association). Two years. Two division titles. One conference title and the sky's the limit with the Magic franchise.

 

All in all, that's one doozy of a quick look at a franchise 20 years old. 

 

What does the community think about the ranking? Fair? Unfair?

Let your thoughts be known in the comments section below. 

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Probably about right.

But with all the things on the Horizon a franchise on the rise.

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by Surfdog on Jun 12, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

A franchise on the rise, for sure.

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by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's alright

And you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.

We know something you don't know
And if we don't share then we don't grow
Unabomber set the whole world on fire

by Orlando Rays on Jun 12, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

The best is yet to come, we hope.

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by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anything

Higher than I expected. But given his reasoning, fair enough.

by eltharion_doa on Jun 12, 2009 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

No doubt.

I thought the ranking was fair. Not too high, not too low. Just right.

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by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it depends on how you look at it

If it is solely franchise accomplishments, its a little high. I guess if you take into account accomplishments per year then it makes sense to be ahead of teams like the Knicks or the Warriors or the Bullets/Wizards.

by Lee for three on Jun 12, 2009 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that was the basis for Hollinger's ranking.

.. looking at accomplishments per year.

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by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's fair

If you look at the teams ahead of them on the ranking you say “what one of those would we be above?” Franchise rankings are always hard to judge perfectly because there’s so many factors.

Some teams have one extended period where they were great and they sucked the rest of the time. Some teams have been around way longer and have more history.

It’s just tough to judge. I still feel proud to be a fan of the Magic and I like the players and staff in the organization. There’s been good times and bad times for the Magic but for the most part they’ve been a fun team to watch. It could certainly have been way worse.

by jimbrophoto on Jun 12, 2009 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, definitely could be worse.

We could be fans of the Grizzlies.

Harsh, I know.

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by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's pretty cool to be a part of a franchise from the very start

It’s like we can create our own traditions that will last generations down the road instead of inheriting it.

Like this blog for example, I can imagine cute little tyke Ben Q. Rock Jr. taking over 3QC from his dad, Big Ben Sr, 20 years from down the road after Big Ben is forced into retirement due to exhaustion from maintaining this site. The kid tries to redecorate the site and rename it, but all of us old fogies yell at him because that “wasn’t how it was done by his dad” and we all yearn for the simpler times of the old days.

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Jun 12, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Your long paragraph made me "lol" .. as usual.

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by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey everyone.

I posted this in the game thread and I’ll post this here, too.

Looks like things got out of control last night, as I feared .. given how the game transpired. I’m going to take care of the comments. I’m going to be extremely busy for the next week, so my availability will be limited.

I’ll find out whether or not Ben will post a recap of last night’s game (I’m sure he will, just running a little late). He’s been as busy as me, so we both apologize in advance for the inconvenience. Thanks a lot.

I know it was a tough loss. Trust me .. if I had time, I’d post by thoughts. Unfortunately, I don’t have any time.

If people can be patient with Ben and I, we’d appreciate it. Thanks peeps.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

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by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, I had very much appreciated the fact there wasn't a post-game thread

This one hurt too much.

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Jun 12, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It did,fo sho

I consider myself a very calm guy,but pillows over the room (never did similar stuff) and me rolling in the bed @ 4:30 am can witness that last night’s game was a mess to me. And,yes,I blame Howard for the loss.There were many things,sure,but it all came down to those free throws which he missed. I know 80 percent of you know this,but Howard kept saying how much he’s practicing them (about 300 FTs daily),and bragging about “making them when it counts”. Yep,Dwight,it’s all your fault. You did other admirable things,but you are a “team leader”,and a superstar,so no cigar. On the other hand,Mickael Pietrus isn’t,but he IS my favourite player. And,believe me,there is a large sign saying DESIRE on that missed layup. Maybe there’s on on Dwight’s play,too. I don’t know.

by Dzogi on Jun 12, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

Sometimes the best words are no words at all. Let the body and mind breathe.

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by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

OUCH!

It’s tough knowing we could easily be up 3-1 if not for some unlucky bounces. We difinitely should be 2-2. I really do feel we have the better overall team. Magic giftwrapped it for the Lakers.

by O-Town MagiCane on Jun 12, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Im not so sure its all unlucky bounces.. Van Gundy coached great up to the finals.. Then Jameer got injected into the fold.. why?.. I dont think Jameer should be out there. period. I think rafer and johnson should be playing. The finals are not a time to shake up the roster with of all things a new point guard.. and for all intents and purposes – jameer is new. The first game was an example of that, and I thought he learned his lesson with the last 2 games.. Obviously not, as Nelson played half the game.. which half? the half we lost.

by i2ambler on Jun 12, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I dunno if SVG giving Jameer playing time is out of showing him some appreciation

and let him take part of the big dance. But if that’s the case, how about now showing AJ some appreciation as well. The guy battled with us thru the tough times so he definitely deserve to be out there. Not only that, AJ is 1. solid in the playoffs. 2. good shooter. and 3. crafty, experienced veteran who doesn’t make too many mistakes. and 4. taller and 5. not coming off a surgery, 6. actually got a scorer’s mentality which we desperately needed when Hedo was out of the game or sometimes trapped and no one can create for themselves on the court.

If Jameer is not looking to make a difference out there, he’s not good. Magic is not good. If SVG is going to stick with Jameer, then he better motivate the heck out of him and make him pwn fisher/farmar/brown/whoever. If Jameer is not willing or unable to do that, then give AJ a chance, it’s only fair.

by pcnyc on Jun 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope SVG give Gortat some more minutes,

especially next time when offense hit a snag. I am serious. I’ve posted this last night, when I couldn’t sleep, but I want to bring it up again. LA doesn’t respect Gortat. They are not programmed to stop, no, even pay attention to Gortat. How else do you explain Gortat having more dunks than Howard when Howard plays what 10x more minutes than him? On pick and rolls, when Gortat rolls, his man stays behind to double Turk. When the entry pass is made to the post, the Lakers are looking to foul Howard, they didn’t even bother raising their hands when they see a big bald white dude catching the ball. And it also helps that Gortat doesn’t put the ball down when he catches under the basket.

I thought Kobe really frustrated Lewis with that low hugging lambada defense when defense switches. Lewis couldn’t do much on the post. I wanna see how Kobe do that on Gortat. If only for comedy.

by pcnyc on Jun 12, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Please delineate from posting further comments about the game.

I’ll make a post in a little bit so people can chime in with their thoughts.

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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone

by erivera7 on Jun 12, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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