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Layup Percentages

The lay-up.

 

By definition, it is usually a one-handed, banked shot made close to the basket after driving in. But of course in basketball, a lay-up can be made in a variety of ways. You have the finger roll, the tear drop, etc. 

 

3QC member DieSlowKeyshawn wondered aloud to me, roughly a week or two ago, what the layup percentage was for the Orlando Magic. I found the question intriguing and went ahead trying to find out the answer. 

 

I decided to approach Ryan J. Parker of Basketball Geek, a talented statistical mind, to get the answer and here are the numbers for not only the Magic but for the rest of the league. Before I unveil the data, this is what the NBA defines layups:

 

alley oop layup

driving finger roll layup

driving layup

driving reverse layup

finger roll layup

layup

putback layup

reverse layup

running finger roll layup

running layup

running reverse layup

 

Now onto the numbers (these stats are for the regular season):

 

.6081452944 PHX
.5979962429 SAS
.5970063327 GSW
.5931131412 CLE
.5855904658 BOS
.5729023383 ATL
.5686486486 IND
.5607101947 WAS
.5536537195 SAC
.5518001469 NOH
.5479860765 UTA
.5477489768 ORL - 12th
.5472383720 MIA
.5423327412 LAL
.5421530479 DET
.5414908579 NYK
.5403100775 TOR
.5396375990 LAC
.5386927122 POR
.5382014874 DAL
.5362793235 DEN
.5356956748 MIN
.5330695308 HOU
.5283582089 OKC
.5254643499 MIL
.5234782608 NJN
.5226793248 CHI
.5163599182 CHA
.5137844611 PHI
.4889310562 MEM

 

Here are the statistics, specifically, for each Orlando player:

 

percentage attempts
Adonal Foyle .666 6
Anthony Johnson .520 48
Brian Cook .250 8
Courtney Lee .573 129
Dwight Howard .562 286
Hedo Turkoglu .524 248
Jameer Nelson .575 120
Jeremy Richardson .333 3
J.J. Redick .600 25
Keith Bogans .571 35
Marcin Gortat .710 76
Mickael Pietrus .436 71
Rafer Alston .510 100
Rashard Lewis .564 156
Tony Battie .593 32
Tyronn Lue .333 3

 

If we're looking strictly at 100+ attempts (bolded the appropriate players to add emphasis), you notice there's a bit of a tier system developing with the numbers. 

 

In tier 1, Jameer Nelson and Courtney Lee were the leaders for the Magic percentage-wise. When either player penetrated into the lane and went up for a layup, both converted at a good rate comparative to the rest of the league.

 

In tier 2, Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis were able to put up good numbers also. For Howard, that's not an eye-opener since he makes his living in the paint and gets easy buckets with regularity. For Lewis, he's proven to be reliable in close-range. 

 

In tier 3, Rafer Alston and Hedo Turkoglu show a big drop-off, statistically. If you've seen Orlando play plenty this year, the stats should come as no shock. For Alston, he's notorious for putting up countless floaters in the paint with regularity but not making them with consistency. For Turkoglu, many times he barrels into the lane "with no regard for human life" and throws up a prayer at the basket, hoping to get rescued by the whistle (which doesn't always happen). When you take both factors into account, you'll begin to see why both Alston and Turkoglu do a bad job of converting easy buckets. It is worth pointing out that both players do benefit from having Howard clean up the mess, so it's not always a lost cause if they miss.

 

Looking at all the numbers, the statistic for Mickael Pietrus jumps out. If you toss out some of the meaningless numbers from Cook, Foyle, Lue, and Richardson, Pietrus comes away with the dubious honor of owning the worst layup percentage for Orlando. Again, this should come as no surprise to Magic fans, given how out of control Mickael is when attacking the basket. The stat begins to paint a picture for why Pietrus settles for jumpers; he can't finish in the lane. Even though Pietrus struggles to convert in the paint consistently, he is at his best offensively when he slashes to the bucket (which invites the possibility of getting to the line, etc). If Pietrus can find a way to improve his layup percentage, he'll become a dangerous player because it'll allow him to mix it up on offense with effectiveness. 

 

All in all, the absences of Jameer Nelson and Courtney Lee hurt the Magic because they are the two best finishers on the team. Having to rely more on Rafer Alston and Hedo Turkoglu is risqué, given their penchant for blowing more than their fare share of bunnies. Mickael Pietrus ... well, enough said. 

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Alston has been terrible

in the playoffs (in this category). I don’t think he ever has a bail out plan and ends up trying to teardrop it from the free throw line.

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by UNFNOLE on May 5, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, it's a bit too late for Rafer to improve on the tear drop.

He’s 32, so .. he is what he is, that’s his nature.

What Alston COULD improve on is develop better chemistry with Dwight Howard for alley-oops. This is one thing that has been missing with Nelson’s absence and it could help offset Skip’s bad layup percentage.

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by erivera7 on May 5, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed about getting the Alley Oop going.

However Rafer did make two HUGE shots down the stretch against Boston, one being a tear droped that rattled around the rim before dropping.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 6, 2009 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Alston made the floater at the end of the game ..

.. but like Pietrus with the made threes, he was lucky to make it given the percentages.

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by erivera7 on May 6, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Verrrrry In-tah-resting!

It is frustrating to watch the good guys miss those “easy” lay-ups and sadly, as you note, Peaches’s stats aren’t that surprising. It is interesting to note that the team that most consistently makes their lay-ups didn’t even make the play-offs

Lori

by lorisays on May 5, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, only 5 teams in the top 10 made the playoffs.

.. I’m guessing the correlation may have to do with three-point shooting, but that’s just a guess.

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by erivera7 on May 5, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a pathetic number.

.. the Grizzlies weren’t even close. Next worst team were the Sixers at 51.4%.

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by erivera7 on May 5, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hedo had to be better last year

I think this area may be his #1 reason from having a drop off year. Last year he was even dunking them through!

You are right about MP; if he can get control of his drive he would turn into a very dangerous player for us. We shall see how Stan’s coaching affects this over the next few years.

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by Eyriq the Red on May 5, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Well .. if SVG can hone in on Turkoglu's talents, he can do the same for Pietrus.

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by erivera7 on May 5, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just making sure I'm reading this right

this is the percentage of lay-ups that went in right? Not the percentage of shots that were lay-ups?

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by UtesFan89 on May 6, 2009 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Correct.

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by erivera7 on May 6, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for this Rivs! Great stuff.

I thought it was interesting that C.Lee had the highest layup percentage, considering we’re always getting on him for an inability to finish. Or… maybe I’m just getting on him. In any event, I wasn’t around yesterday, but thanks very much these stats.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 6, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions  

That was the best one...

him and Pietrus, because neither of them knew any of the music

"And this he knows if nothing more
That waiting in the dark like destiny
Are those who kissed the dogs of war
And there is no tomorrow."

by The Dark on May 6, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

"OOOOH! THE TWO LITTLE GIRLS!"

I also liked that Anthony Johnson knew the entire Fresh Prince song. He was 16 when that show debuted, btw.

by Ben Q Rock on May 6, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why he's Ol' Head.

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by erivera7 on May 6, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I think .. it’s a prerequisite in life to know the song.

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by erivera7 on May 6, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a combination of things.

.. sometimes Howard throws up some wild hook shots, etc.

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by erivera7 on May 6, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

amen... i like to call them wild swooping hooks

he starts on the left side and will take massive lunges towards the right, all while attempting a hook shot going across his body, it makes me cringe, I see it him do it wayyyy too often every game. If he does it once, that’s wayyyy too often.

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by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 6, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem. I figured you'd liked the post.

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by erivera7 on May 6, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why aren't Dunks included in the analysis?

Sorry about sending just the headline, I am a newbie to this site. I just read today’s article on Pietrus and followed the thread to the layup article. I have been a Magic fan since inception, but I now live in Virginia (and to be honest there hasn’t been much excitement coming out of Orlando until recently). I really like the site, very well done!!!

My question is why wouldn’t dunks be included in your analysis. For example, Howard will probably attempt to dunk the ball any chance he gets and only tries a layup if the dunk isn’t there. On the other hand, Lee usually tries the layup and only dunks when he knows James is behind him. To me a layup and a dunk are just variations of the same “point blank” attempt.

Thanks Again and this is a great site!!!

by AquiaMike on May 26, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Answered the question in the Pietrus post.

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by erivera7 on May 28, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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