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Orlando Magic 116, Cleveland Cavaliers 114 (OT)

Led by Dwight Howard's 27 points--10 of them in overtime--and Rafer Alston's career-playoff-high 26 points, the Orlando Magic surged past the Cleveland Cavaliers in overtime, 116-114, to take a 3-1 series lead in the Eastern Conference Finals. Orlando trailed by 8 at halftime, yet Alston's 15-point third quarter helped Orlando draw to within 1 heading into the final period of regulation. The Magic weathered another onslaught by LeBron James, who led his team with 44 points, 12 boards, and 7 assists. His pair of free throws with 0.5 seconds remaining sent the game to overtime knotted at 100.

TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Cavaliers99115.248.3%34.517.114.1
Magic117.560.6%23.810.815.2

I know the Cavaliers are upset to be down 3-1, but they should at least take solace in the fact that they forced the Magic to overtime, on the road, despite yielding a whopping 17 made three-pointers. On the other hand, there's really no excusing how wide-open they left the Magic on a lot of those threes. I suppose they can live with some of Alston's looks because he is the Magic's poorest outside shooter in the rotation, historically speaking, but they consistently left Mickael Pietrus open in the corners, his favorite places to shoot. Cleveland dared Alston to win the game for Orlando, and he delivered more often than not. 26 points on 10-of-17 from the field and 6-of-12 from three-point range. Taking what the defense gave him, which is to say taking a lot. Stellar play from Orlando's deadline-day acquisition.

And this is how Orlando wins games. Simply too many weapons for the Cavs to match. Alston, we've mentioned. Howard, we've mentioned. Pietrus scored 17 off the bench, making 5 three-pointers. Rashard Lewis scored 10 of his 17 points in the 4th period, including what would have been the game-winning three-pointer were it not for James' late free throws. Hedo Turkoglu had 15 points and 8 assists. The Magic look every bit like the better team in this series, having pushed the league's winningest team to the brink of elimination, and nearly having swept it.

None of this is meant to gloat. I agree with Dwight Howard when he says, "It is no time to celebrate."

Howard, though, should absolutely be proud of his performance, particularly when it happened most. He might have silenced the critics who said during the Magic's previous series against the Boston Celtics that he could not be a go-to player. The Cavs do not have anyone capable of pushing him off his spots, and it showed on the Magic's second, third, and fourth possessions of the overtime period, which resulted in two dunks and a layup. Later on, he tipped in a missed Turkoglu layup. And with the Magic clinging to a two-point lead with 21 seconds to play, he calmly sank two free throws to help put the game away. His defense was huge, too, forcing a jump-ball against James and not committing what would have been a crucial three-shot foul against him on the Cavs' ensuing possession.

For the first time in this series, James got some offensive help from his teammates, and it resulted in arguably the Cavs' best-played offensive game against the Magic... although they once again fell into the stand-around-and-watch-LeBron offense late. Delonte West worked hard for his 17 points. He had his step-back jumper working and repeatedly attacked Alston in the low post. James, too, made the most of his post-up chances against Pietrus. But apart from Daniel Gibson's two three-pointers in the waning minutes of the first half, Cleveland got very little from the perimeter. Mo Williams scored 18 points, but got 8 of those at the foul line. His 5-of-15 mark from the field is more indicative of his offensive play in this game. He's sure to hear it from the media, and maybe even from his teammates, after he failed to make good on his guarantee to win Game 4.

114 points on 99 possessions for Cleveland, which would appear to indicate the Magic played poor defense. Maybe that's true, as they managed to lose track of Anderson Varejao under the rim a few times. But at least acknowledge that the Magic didn't allow their offense to do what they wanted to do, namely drive-and-kick. As John Krolik of Cavs: The Blog indicates, 5 of Cleveland's 6 three-pointers came off the dribble, while the other was a well-contested look.

What's clear about the Cavs, more than anything else, after this game is the following: they're not sure what else they can do in this series. Coach Mike Brown dusted off Wally Szczerbiak, who did not play in Game 3, and put him out there for 21 minutes. Gibson made a cameo in the first half of Game 3; he played 22 minutes tonight. Meanwhile, Sasha Pavlovic earned a DNP-CD tonight after playing 25 minutes in Game 3. I don't mean to demean Brown's coaching, but it's rather telling that he still can't decide on a rotation that works against the Magic. It's his team that's being reactive, and not proactive, in this series. And that's one reason why it's in a 3-1 hole right now.

This game was unique in that both teams had their chances to put the other away. Cleveland couldn't capitalize on its 8-point halftime lead, while the Magic themselves led by 6 with 4:18 left in regulation. For the first time in a while, the Magic nearly gave a game away, which was legitimately surprising to see given their recent history. But no, there's no reason to question their playoff moxie now.

The Magic head to Cleveland and will try to finish off the Cavs this Thursday night. Another effort like tonight should get it done.

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Another hard-fought, great game to watch

…with the Magic coming out the winner!

The third to last paragraph in Ben’s recap said it all. Mike Brown is trying everything he can to see if something works against the Magic, and to no avail.

I am very impressed by the Magic’s resiliency, as the Magic overcame a 13-2 run by the Cavs to end the first quarter and a 23-7 Cavs’ run to end the second quarter.

More great second-half defense by the Magic, holding the Cavs to 42 points in the third and fourth quarter.

Clutch three point shooting in the second half and OT, as the Magic made 11 of 23 from long range in that span.

I know the Magic are one win away from the NBA finals, but LeBron James will not let Cleveland quit, I know that.

The Magic need to close this out as soon as possible, and not let the Cavs get any confidence that they can come back and win the series.

Great win… can’t wait until Game 5!

"Why not us... why not now?"

by Mike from Illinois on May 27, 2009 6:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, it's imperative that Orlando does its best to close the series out in Cleveland on Thursday.

Can’t get complacent and think that everything can be taken cared of in Game 6. Stay hungry.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

GO MAGIC

What a great game. I think this series will be over on Thurs. GO MAGIC!!!!!

by Dolphan on May 27, 2009 6:31 AM EDT reply actions  

There should be no relenting

Keep playing it hard, and we’ll leave the Cavs in Cleveland.

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by Orlando Rays on May 27, 2009 7:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ultimatley, we just gotta hope Mike Brown continues to not get a clue and not play small ball

The cavs are very effective this way as it allows shooters like Wally and Pavlovic to get shots to enocunter our shots and it moves Lebron to the 4 to gaurd Shard. But for whatever reason he hasnt done that.
The guys on TNT mentioned this the last couple of games but Mike doenst seem to be doing (at least I havent seen it)

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by Wasabi Steak on May 27, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't think smallball has been that effective

With the Williams-West-Pavlovic/Szczerbiak-James-Varejao/Ilgauskas lineup, there are some serious issues.
Williams and Alston can cover each other fairly well, so that’s a wash.
West is either giving up 2 inches to Lee or 3 to Peaches. CLee can generally shoot over him, while Pietrus is both taller and stronger. West is quick enough that neither can blow by him, but he’s not enough faster to blow by them on the other end.
Pavlovic gives up 3 inches to Turkoglu, is no quicker, and was a mediocre shooter this year (with a hideous FT%). He can’t handle the ball at all, and is like a bigger, less talented JJ.
Wally is…well…Wally. He scores well, but does nothing else. He can’t handle the ball, doesn’t pass well, is one of the worst stealers in the NBA, and defends about as well as my grandmother (both of whom are deceased).
James can cover Lewis, but then he’s burning energy on defense that he needs on offense.
Floppy and Z simply aren’t strong enough to cover Howard mano-a-mano. Floppy’s a little bit better, since his footspeed mostly lets him keep up on the pick-and-rolls, but Z is a pylon on defense.

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by The Dark on May 27, 2009 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cleveland can go small, but the team will be too small against Orlando. It probably won't work.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't appear to matter.

The Cavaliers have tried practically everything from a tactical standpoint, and nothing has worked.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

LeBron will hit 50 next game. No doubt.

And I’m fine with it as that means he won’t be dishing to others and bringing the team into it.

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by big aaron on May 27, 2009 8:00 AM EDT reply actions  

i welcome that

love watching them stand around and witness. as long as we get a stop here and there and capitalize in transition we’re good.

how about that block on lb last night by howard that lead to the jump ball. so happy he wasnt called on a foul there. thats just great defensive play by the defensive player of the yr. lets go!

by nowuseemenowudont on May 27, 2009 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can you blame him, though?

.. his teammates haven’t been able to step up, consistently. LBJ is trying to do everything for Cleveland. I literally mean, everything. LeBron is trying to handle the load offensively and defensively for the Cavs.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is great. It's a testament to us stopping them or having them rattled enough to knock them out of rhythm.

Most of the plays seem to be LeBron dribbles for 20 secs then hoists on up or barrels into the lane and draws a foul.

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by big aaron on May 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

.. and that's what's been killing the Cavs.

The team is resorting back to circa 2007 offense.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick question?

Can the Magic appeal that Technical? I know there was some chatter about it on TNT, but they never gave a hard answer.

Man, I didn’t think my heart would survive last night. Great fight.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by UNFNOLE on May 27, 2009 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

i felt like

i was playing in that game the way my heart was beating. what a nail biter. love how the magic are showing their chops and keeping poised this series. lets close it out on thurs

by nowuseemenowudont on May 27, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

it really was ridiculous,

and nothing that KG, Chris Bosh, Al Jefferson, etc etc have not done throughout their careers.

Even Steve Aschburner from SI called out the fact that as a partial person watching this series he sees a lot of things wrong in the game call:

When those of us who are way outside looking in start to feel that paranoia, though, and watch replays of pivotal plays with a jeweler’s glass pressed against our big-screens, it’s more than just fan stuff. It’s annoying and already a problem.

I know some people want to ignore it, but it’s not just us who feel something is up. Next I point you to the Golden State of Mind blog here at SBN and their live blog of last nights game. I read the recap and in it a bunch of their members referenced how ridiculous and rigged they felt the game was, especially after that last Lebron barrel into the lane. They weren’t being sarcastic folks.

by fwedo on May 27, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is what it is.

Despite it all, Orlando is up 3-1 in the series. Try not to fret too much about external factors.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, the Magic can appeal and have appealed.

.. and the NBA can rescind it. There’s plenty of precedence for it.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What, in gods name is up

with Lebron James barelling into the defense and getting the whistle? That play against Peitrus was ridiculous. The guy just takes the ball like a running back and runs through people..

by i2ambler on May 27, 2009 8:37 AM EDT reply actions  

The explanation was that Pietrus didn't beat James to the spot. That's why the foul was called.

.. that’s a play that gets called in the NBA, with regards to a defender not beating someone to a spot.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as McGrady promise doesn’t happen again.

by Fundefined on May 27, 2009 9:28 AM EDT reply actions  

don't ever remind us about the curse

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Fall in love with defeat, throw my endeavors on the shelf
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by EX-TREME on May 27, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

x2.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

whatever

the howard tip in during o.t. was offensive basket interference…ball clearly over the cylinder…watch it and see…mike brown is clearly being out coached here; no offensive sets, no defensive overall plan…the cavs are essentilly playing streetball w/out a coach…

by b3drummer on May 27, 2009 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

No kidding

Especially considering his postgame comments that his gameplan starting in the 4th quarter was “give Lebron the ball”. It still blows me away that this guy won coach of the year. Mo Williams was invisible in the 4th quarter and OT. There’s no denying that Lebron is the best player in the game, and it should be in his hands in the 4th quarter, but he’s so capable of scoring from so many places on the floor, why not run plays to give him different looks? If the Magic see the same thing every play (Lebron brings the ball up the court, Lebron tries to get his own shot), they can adjust to it.

I’ve been saying for a couple years now… When all the players on your team are just standing around, it’s the coaches fault. And Mike Brown admitted it last night.

by Jwoey on May 27, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't disagree.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cavaliers aren't playing streetball without a coach. That's not an accurate assessment.

.. Cleveland is just playing against a team (Orlando) that has an answer for every strategy.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Mike Brown didn't listen to Barkley in post game,

and post up LeBron more. Bad things happened to Magic everytime they did. I don’t know how Magic can solve it if they do. Maybe agressively double LeBron immediately so he won’t have time to size up Pietrus and look for open men/cutters.

I’m not THAT worried tho, I am sure SVG will have a counter.

by pcnyc on May 27, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

if this happens

SVG would put Shard on him. He really has outclassed Brown this series, and showed he really deserved the award.

by fwedo on May 27, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's tricky because you don't want Lewis to get in foul trouble.

However, Rashard knows how to play in foul trouble better than say, Dwight.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, LeBron should post up more.

In that case, the Magic would have to double James aggressively (as you said). There’s other options, too.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Third Quarter Comeback

As suggested in the postgame thread, Magic can force a title change in this blog. Plaine Dealer columnist Terry Pluto agrees:

The key to all four games has been the third quarter. The Magic made adjustments that worked — and the Cavs did not. In the first three games, Orlando outscored the Cavs, 30-19, 25-19 and 26-22 heading into Tuesday.

Game 4 was more of the same, Orlando taking the third quarter, 28-21.

by pembeci on May 27, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

The adjustments have worked because the Magic are a matchup nightmare for the Cavaliers.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Do you Believe in MAGIC?" - possible future title for blog?

After last night, I do, and lemme tell ya, this is great watching Orlando out-duel the musketeers…

by jyrecelts on May 27, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

It's been fun to watch, yeah.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Magic

I bet we take the series with a win on Thursday. Go Magic

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by Bestjagfan on May 27, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Hope so. Believe.

Orlando needs to play with a killer instinct in Game 5.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Magic

I am a die hard Celtics fan, but I cannot help but root on the Magic. I love the way they are playing. I get so frustrated with the referees in these games as it seems they REALLY want to make it a Cavs/Lakers finals. Go MAGIC!

by Jake W on May 27, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the kind words, bud.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Witnesses...

…that’s exactly what Lebron’s teammates are. They are JUST witnesses. He’s got no support.

So far, the Magic are proving that Lebron is the best PLAYER in the series. But they’re the better TEAM.

Go Magic!

by pinoyballer on May 27, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Sounds about right.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta say I kinda felt sad watching Mo in the locker room...but not too sad lol

I mean I hate to see any grown man cry, but hey sorry G it was either you or Stan damn near getting choked up again like in Game 2. And I cant bare to see a jolly fat man cry lol

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by Wasabi Steak on May 27, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Other people aren't as sympathetic, but I felt for him too.

Mo really wants to win, but it just hasn’t been happening.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic and dramatic game

I had a fun evening watching the game at the bar. I was the only one there at the start of the game and it was like I had my own exclusive building and bartender. By the time other people showed up, I was already well tipsy and therefore immune to what other people might have thought about my cheering and yelling loudly.

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by funny80sguy on May 27, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what you get for going to support your team in Capitol Hill

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by pookeyguru on May 27, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah.

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by erivera7 on May 27, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean that I get a good time? :o)

Admittedly, this particular bar is not the friendliest spot for sports, but it is near where I live and I’m sporting a 4-1 Magic playoff record there so far (plus there is a sectioned off area with a big screen tv and comfortable velvet couches). Also, even though it is always much more fun to watch the games around other people that are also into the game, I get super-intense and focused on the game anyway to the point that I still have a ton of fun and not self-conscious about my behavior.

By the way, to respond to your comment from the game thread, the one downtown bar I like to go to that has a pretty cool sports atmosphere is the Marcus Bar on 1st & Yesler. They also make the best affordable martinis. I normally go there before I hit a Mariners’ game (about twice a year).

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by funny80sguy on May 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll check out the Spitfire

It is actually only 2 blocks away from where I work.

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by funny80sguy on May 27, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I’ve never gone to Marcus’ and all that. I don’t hit a lot of bars (I dont like doing it), and I’ve worked Graveyard most of my time in Seattle. I could have hit more bars, but as I said, it’s not my thing.

If I’m ever in Pioneer Square, I’ll consider Marcus’ however. Thanks for the tip.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was kind of tongue in cheek

The only bar I’ve been into in Capitol Hill is Charlies, and well, you know. It’s Charlies. But, the Metropolitan is not a place I’d go to watch sports. The Spitfire might not be your kind of place. It’s the typical Belltown joint that simply allows you to watch sports. It also might be too pricey. But everytime I’ve been in there early, I’ve never had a problem watching a Kings game, and because they have free Wi-Fi I could take my laptop in there and chat on the game threads while I’m doing it. I really enjoyed that.

Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....

by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah . . .

We’re currently in discussion about who should purchase the pair of matching ‘Best Friends Forever’ t-shirts and at what color. I want blue and he wants black. This may end in bloodshed.

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by funny80sguy on May 28, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or in Magic Blue

We haven’t decided.

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by pookeyguru on May 28, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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