Cleveland Cavaliers 96, Orlando Magic 95
The Orlando Magic rallied from a 23-point deficit to take a 95-93 lead over the Cleveland Cavaliers with 1 second to play, only to see their hopes of going up 2-0 in the Eastern Conference Finals dashed when LeBron James drilled a three-pointer at the final buzzer. It was James' first successful three-pointer of the game in three attempts.
| Team | Pace | Efficiency | eFG% | FT Rate | OReb% | TO Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Magic | 84 | 113.7 | 54.9% | 23.9 | 18.9 | 14.4 |
| Cavaliers | 114.3 | 48.7% | 27.3 | 25.8 | 16.7 |
Certainly, much of the post-game discussion will focus on some questionable officiating that may have skewed things in the Cavs' favor. Mo Williams was not assessed a technical foul after deliberately throwing the ball at Dwight Howard during a dead-ball situation; Ben Wallace was not assessed a blocking foul after he stepped under an airborne Courtney Lee, negating a basket for Lee and actually drawing an offensive foul; LeBron James was not assessed a charging foul after he barreled into a set, outside-the-restricted-area Marcin Gortat, who in turn earned a technical for his protesting the call levied against him. You get the picture, and I understand the complaints. However, the Magic did not play a flawless game. They can just as easily pin the loss on other factors--ones under their control--such as missed free throws (8 of them in 25 attempts) and poor interior defense. That's why I don't want to focus on the officiating. Hell, the Magic caught some breaks near the end, as James was whistled for two rare offensive fouls as well as a traveling violation in the fourth period.
For more on this game, I refer you back to Game 1. It really was that similar. Poor shooting and sloppy ballhandling helped the Magic dig themselves into a deep hole early. Also as in Game 1, Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu got off to slow starts, while Dwight Howard carried the load early. The Magic's turnovers and poor transition defense helped the Cavs' offense, and Cleveland more than doubled the score on the Magic with an imposing 43-20 lead just 17 minutes into the game.
But like Game 1, Lewis and Turkoglu heated up in concert, just as the Cavs' defense softened. The only reason Wallace was able to draw that charge, for instance, was because Lee blew by his defender. That's what happened almost the entire second half, resulting in either a Magic layup or an open three-point shot. The offense hummed.
Again, it's the defense that needs work. After Courtney Lee's running shot in the lane gave the Magic their first lead of the night, 86-84, Cleveland scored on its next 3 possessions: a fairly open baseline J from Williams, followed by an open three-pointer from the left wing by Williams, following by an open jumper by Zydrunas Ilgauskas. Orlando otherwise defended the Cavs well in the 4th quarter, but allowing three consecutive open looks was killer.
It appeared as though Orlando would be okay, though. Up by 2 points, on the road, with 1 second to play, after trailing by 23... that's impressive. No, there aren't moral victories in the playoffs, but the Magic put themselves in a position to win in spite of all those circumstances. And it took an absolutely nutty, fadeaway trey from a career 33% three-point shooter for the Cavs to win. Obviously, the Magic would prefer to return to Orlando with a 2-0 lead, as opposed to the 1-1 split they currently have. But given all the ways they could have lost, I suppose they can live with yielding such a tough shot...
... or maybe not. Coach Stan Van Gundy is unhappy with the way he chose to tell his team to defend the final shot:
"I should have defended it differently. It's crushing enough to lose as a coach, but when you feel like you're the guy who could've made the difference, it hurts a lot more.
The Magic will certainly take this loss--their fourth buzzer-beating defeat of these playoffs--to heart, and there's no reason to believe they won't bounce back. They've done it before, and they can do it again. But now that Cleveland has been on the winning side of a close playoff game, it might have regained any confidence it lost after Game 1. After the first two games of the series, both teams have scored 202 points. We are indeed in for one helluva ride.
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Still confident
going back to Orlando. Cleveland is back on its heals. Like Stan Van said “We’ve been here before, they haven’t.”
by atlantaray on May 23, 2009 1:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how Cleveland is back on its heels when the series is tied 1-1.
If the series was 2-0 in Orlando’s advantage, then yeah, I would agree.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you watching?
They’ve twice now given us their best shot, on their floor, and they’ve not been able to put us away. Who has HCA now? How do they fare when facing the Magic in Orlando? Not to mention they should suspend Mo for that assault on Dwight.
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on May 23, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Re: Mo Williams
Yes, he should have been T’d up, but suspended? You did see Dwight inadvertently elbow Mo in the head after the whistle blew which is why he reacted the way he did, right? I’m not trying to justify his reaction, I’m just saying let’s not get carried away here.
Orlando Magic ECF-bound!
LET'S GO MAGIC! LET'S GO!!!
by malars on May 23, 2009 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just bitter and taking it out on you guys. My bad.
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on May 23, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And apperently still drunk. I thought you were erivera7, lol
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on May 23, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how anything I said was wrong.
The Magic were a second away from putting the Cavaliers in a ditch. Instead, the series is tied 1-1. Yeah, Orlando has home-court advantage but the team needs to hold serve.
That’s all.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland needed a miracle to tie the series
At home, a place where they only lost twice all year. They threw everything they had at us the in the 1st half of both games and we withstood their onslaught and came back. We’re playing better than they are, but it just so happens they have the 2nd coming of Jesus on their team.
by atlantaray on May 23, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. The Cavs needed a miracle and LeBron delivered.
I’m just saying the series is tied 1-1, that’s all.
I’m not trying to damper the accomplishment of the Magic.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland has lost that edge
But, in a way, I’m not sure they ever had it.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's me
Mr. Philosopher.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland has blown leads of 18 and 23 in this series
If they can’t figure out how to win in Orlando, they’re dead
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by Orlando Rays on May 23, 2009 1:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We'll see.
The Magic have to hold home-court.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My God your a killjoy....seriously...are you a Magic fan or just a " journalist" with no preference to any team..??
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by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't want to be wrong in his prediction
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on May 23, 2009 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could care less about my prediction.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How could anyone predict this series?
Many prognosticators labeled Cavs and attached a number like 5 6 or 7 to it.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thing is, my prediction came with a caveat.
If the Magic split the first two games, then it becomes a winnable series for Orlando.
At this point, this matchup is a toss-up.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always hate judging a series beforehand
Especially in a matchup like this where Cleveland hasn’t been tested all playoffs long, and then you have 2 ultra close games that are decided almost literally at each buzzer.
Why any team would have a distinct advantage they didn’t already beforehand is beyond me. I always thought this matchup would have the potential to be a tight 7 game series, and Orlando/Cleveland fans not withstanding, the rest of us are in for a treat.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, you know me so well. I'm a person that has no preference to any team ..
.. even though I’m born/raised in Orlando and have been a fan of the franchise since its inception.
Got me there.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fail to see how ER is a journalist
Does working for Scouts.com quality as journalism?
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Scout.com does (it's a subsidiary of Fox Sports).
I earned my Journalism degree at DePaul and I’m going to grad school at Northwestern to continue my journalistic studies, so I would consider myself a journalist. That’s my career.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough
Still, you’re not writing about the Magic from a “journalist” point of view. You’re just not a homer. There is a difference.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think that's a fair assessment.
I’m just a Magic fan with an objective point of view. That’s all.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like the old classic rock songs go...
“DONT STOP…BELIEEEVIING…”, “OH, OH, ITS MAGIC…YOU KNOOOOOW…”
“The King” will have to go through The Magic Kingdom now if he wants to get passed us. I still have tons of confidence and pride in our team. Orlando Magic will have to show us some respect in Orlando if they plan to return to The Q without a 3-1 deficit.
"In order for us to make a move, It has to make sense" - Otis Smith's favorite saying
by magic12ball on May 23, 2009 1:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
correction
Cleveland Cavaliers….will have to show us some respect in Orlando if they plan to return to The Q without a 3-1 deficit.**
"In order for us to make a move, It has to make sense" - Otis Smith's favorite saying
by magic12ball on May 23, 2009 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could care less about respect....
…the more they disrespect us…the more we send them home in shock…he’s to getting disrespected all the way to the title!!:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said above, we'll see.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right, there are no moral victories in May
I can’t understand how anybody can feel good about this game. To say that Cleveland fans or the players should be nervous, that’s a bunch of crap. They are tied with us, plain and simple. This is an incredibly confident team, there is no doubt in there mind right now. We have no upper hand right now, if we lose game 3 it will be devistating.
I’m not totally negative. When I mapped out the series, I had us winning game 1 and losing game 2. I still strongly believe we are headed to the finals, but it sucks in the moment.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 23, 2009 1:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a tough loss but it can be wiped away if Orlando does it job and holds serve at home.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well i'm glad things are going according to your plan Mr. Negative!! LOL
….they should be nervous that they can’t hold any lead against us in their own building….and they positives i would take from this game is that we once AGAIN didn’t buckle on the road and nearly pulled off the impossible coming home 2-0. But then again…i’m a positive kind of guy..:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 3:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't forget the moral impact this had on magic... to catch them from a 23 deficit,and then this?! that's painfully and a big blow on a team's morale
by Dzogi on May 23, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This had zero impact other than just another game we had "Stolen" from our grasp...
…..this is like the 4th one this post season…and the least depressing of the 4 i might add because we’re still going home tied 1-1 with HCA now..
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not being completly negative
I really couldn’t have asked for more than a 1-1 split. But for this to happen for the 4TH FREAKEN TIME. It’s a little discouraging.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 23, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's tough, but the Magic can overcome it.
Orlando has done it before.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow...i am truly impressed!!!
…at least you’re trying..:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 freakin times.
This is getting rigoddamndiculous.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 23, 2009 1:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crazy.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like Kenny Smith
but I like what he said after the game, he said “This is an alley fight, the first time you get scratched it hurts the most, but after that it doesn’t hurt so much.” The Magic have been “scratched” 4 times in this series, it hurts but this team is tough.
by atlantaray on May 23, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like that analogy too
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Psychologically speaking, I almost think it might've been better if the Magic had lost by one point trying to take the lead . . .
rather than trying to defend it.
I say this because then it’d appear as if the Cavs were “lucky” to have survived the Magic’s comeback as opposed to it seeming as if they’re so talented that they cannot be denied.
I think the 2 scenarios carry much different psychological perceptions with them and consequently different “momentum” as well.
Hopefully the Magic won’t get too down about this loss and come back strong in game 3. I swear SVG looked like he wanted to cry in his Post-game report!
Also, if the Magic ever play a full game they could beat the Cavs going away. Hopefully they’ll do this next time cuz I’ll be at game 3! GO MAGIC!!
by blue-blood on May 23, 2009 2:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's the same scenario as the Game 4 against the Celtics...
…the difference being we were’nt even at home for this comeback to take the lead. The Celtics series turned out pretty good i think? Don’t you?? Psychologically speaking….the Cavs can’t be confident about any lead they have on us after these first two games!! we erased a 16 point lead in the first game…and a 23 point lead in the second.
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with this viewpoint.
It’s all about perspective. The Magic have outplayed Cleveland 6 out of 8 quarters, and we’ve been on when it counts. This is not the third quarter collapse team we saw for years.
Cleveland should, in all rights, be deeply concerned right now ast o whether or not they will advance, based on what we’ve shown them in the last two games. I don’t think these two teams are nearly as evenly matched as we were with the Celts.
The Magic shouldn’t be looking at the series total. I don’t think that serves them well in game 3. Hedo put us up with ine second left. Call it a win in your head and move on to game three. We have n reason to play desperate, and this team has been playing remarkably calm basketball. Let’s wait for a calamity before we worry about psychological impact.
by farfromfl on May 23, 2009 6:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just take it one game at a time.
From reading Hedo’s quote last night after the game, he doesn’t appear to be too concerned.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's amazing is nobody is talking about that shot he made.
Drove to the hole to run down the clock and makes an off-balance shot while all contorted in the air. He kept them in the game along with peaches.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on May 23, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was definitely a big time cluctch shot...just got upstaged by a bigger more clutch shot...
…but i almost love love the fact …despite the loss of course….that Hedo had his shining moment stolen by Lebron….definitely goign to get him fired up for game 3 at home!!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great effort from the magic to get back into that game down 23 and give themselves a chance to win, only for the MVP to hit a literally impossible shot.
I think the Magic clearly are a matchup nightmare for the cavs, and remember the cavs only lost 1 meaningful game at home this season, and with 1 second to go you were in position to go up 2-0…I think the magic definetly win game 3, and probably big
by ohc on May 23, 2009 2:20 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I believe the Magic will win this series
That mismatch problem has been evident for several games now since we acquired Rashard last season. Including the Preseason (in china), I think the Magic beat the Cavs I believe, 6-1 last season?
This season we’ve beaten them (including the POs) a total of 3 times out of 5 meetings all together. I think that says something about our team vs. theirs.
"In order for us to make a move, It has to make sense" - Otis Smith's favorite saying
by magic12ball on May 23, 2009 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Close, but not close enough.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What a difference 1sec. makes in the N.B.A.
From the thrill of victory to the agony of defeat in 1sec.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on May 23, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
.. go from a commanding 2-0 series lead to a 1-1 split.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ridiculous
Don Cheadle needs to do a comercial about it.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 23, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blah Blah Blah....
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let's not cry,now,if someone offered us a split few days ago,we all know our answer. we're ok.
it all depends on us,and is best that way. i hope fans in o-town know howto support magic,cause it is so damn important now. we GOT to win that pair o’ games,at any cost
by Dzogi on May 23, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THANK YOU!!
Some people here are forgetting that we weren’t supposed to win ANY games there according to the experts…including some here who shall remain nameless…
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I'm hoping the O-rena is rockin' in Game 3 and Game 4.
The Magic have a golden opportunity to put the Cavaliers in a hole.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sucktitude
I am not a fan of either of these teams, but I think you were much too kind in your assesment of the refs. While it is true that you would rather have your guys play a mistake free game and not give the refs a chance to alter the outcome, you have to realize that when two teams are both playing at a really high level it takes very little to alter the outcome of a game. Officials called a lousy game, and the Cavs got the benefit nearly every time. I have the same bad taste in my mouth after watching tonight’s game that I had when the Heat beat the Mavs a couple years ago.
by jtdw on May 23, 2009 3:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*shrugs*
It’s tough, but have to move on.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most Magic fans knew before the series began that the Magic weren't going to get more calls than Lebron and the Cavs
…it’s just a reality…like extra home court advantage…but the Magic have shown the resiliency to overcome even that too!! Would i rather that the refs call a completely even game?? Sure…who wouldn’t…but thats not realistic in the NBA and to dwell on it is the epitomy of insanity. If and when i comment on it…it’s usually to laugh at how ridiculously bad it is…hoping that somehow enough people noticed that David Stern will start getting embarrassed about it. Not saying it will ever change….but there is a difference in blaming the win or loss on it…and razzing the refs just for the sheer enjoyment because we all know how bad they suck!!:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 4:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate the refs talk,but i'd like to say this
our men had fairly easily accepted refs’ decisions(save marcin),and i am wondering isn’t that a double-edged sword? the refs will just come with more bad calls for you.
i say,let someone(not D12,rash,turk,someone less important) freak out and show our anger with bad decisions. it’s even worse when you just bow your head and take the call,but that’s maybe just me.
by Dzogi on May 23, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather us just play are game and show the Cavs that no matter what...no lead they have is safe....
…and have them just leave the complaining to Stan…he does plenty i’m sure!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Magic can't worry about the refs.
.. just have to keep playing; the team will be fine.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to commend Ben Q Rock....
…for delivering the post-game commentary and keeping a positive outlook on the Magic’s effort and resiliency. The fact that a should have to make such a comment in a MAGIC BLOG should speaks volumes those doubting Tom’s who would prefer to with hold their optimism and support till the series is in the bag..so to speak!! Well done Ben!!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 4:17 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Analysis
In the heat of the moment I was not even disgusted I was just in the kind of acceptance and serenity that comes with knowing some things are beyond your ability to control. Ironically, Lebron James making that shot is just why he’s great, not why we are not able to win. The thing that is bad about this game was the officiating in the first quarter. I could tell the way they were calling it was letting the Cavs get physical penetration in the paint and not letting the magic, this was early, weird things on rebounds, weird charge calls block calls… Then the non-call on the technical from Mo Williams. This wouldn’t matter IF: the magic didn’t out score the Cavs in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th quarters. If the magic didn’t lose by 1 point, which is exactly what a technical would have earned us. The game unfolds dynamically, so there is no saying that one point early would have made the difference in the final emergent score. That being said, the magic have outscored the cavs in 5 of nine quarters, put themselves in positions to win, and by my count, have had a terrible run of non-calls and weird calls. ben wallace fell all over tony battie away from the ball in the 2nd quarter of game one, for example, and i was thinking, team fouls add up, this shit is ridiculous. the jump ball/time out situation with Z and dwight…the foul at the end to foul out dwight…the offensive fouls on dwight in game one, the fact that Z was able to hit dwight while mo took swipes at the ball. things i didnt like seeing like mo’s dirty grab of courtney lee… clear flops that are just silly, the courtney lee ben wallace play that was in itself a 5-6 point swing…and finally, the fact that Lebron and Mo williams would tip balls out of bounds and then point like they didn’t. shit that just made me think, dude youre the best on the planet, you get favorable calls from refs, you play amazing, and you resort to bush league ref deception… all in all more disgusted with the zebras and ive never been as impressed with the mental resiliency of the magic as in these two games, as i was freaking out at how the games were being called.
by Thomas Whigham on May 23, 2009 4:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am baffled by this...lol...please explain yourself..???
“the courtney lee ben wallace play that was in itself a 5-6 point swing…”
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by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't a 5-6 point swing.
At the most, 3 points (made basket and a possible free throw made) were lost there but that’s it.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You did great ...
A Boston fan here. Just want to say the Magic has been playing great ball in the playoffs. You will survive James’s buzzer beater just as you had survived Big Baby Davis’ . I can’t root for any team other than the Celtics, but sure want to see the Magic go through to the Finals. Good luck and repeat what you did on April 3 three more times.
by 33-32-00 on May 23, 2009 4:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the kind words.
Here’s hoping Orlando can do its job and hold serve at home. That’s a start.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another great second half effort defensively for the Magic
…holding the Cavaliers to just 40 points on 40% FG shooting, after holding the Cavs to 43 points in the second half of Game 1.
The Magic came alive offensively too, making 20 of 35 shots, including 6 of 11 from three point range in the second half.
Give LeBron James credit for making a difficult shot under pressure at the end.
I have every confidence that the Magic will defend their home court in Games 3 and 4 because of the Magic’s superior depth and matchup problems they pose for Cleveland, along with what should be a great atmosphere in Amway Arena. They should be able to get off to a much better start at home than they did the first two games in Cleveland.
The Cavs did a lot better job defending D12… he only had 8 field goal attempts compared to 20 FGA in Game 1. They made him go to the free throw line more, as he split 8 free throws. Good strategy on their part. Dwight needs to make his free throws.
Rafer Alston will need to give a better effort in the future than his 2 points on 1 for 7 shooting with just 2 assists.
Mickael Pietrus was brilliant again off the bench… I hope that he plays more minutes in upcoming games than the 17 minutes he played in Game 2. He’s given the Magic a huge spark off the bench, and deserves to play more minutes.
"Why not us... why not now?"
by Mike from Illinois on May 23, 2009 5:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good thoughts, Mike.
I have confidence in the Magic, too, that the team will hold serve at home. Just have to do it. Hopefully Orlando realizes how important, more than ever, it is to have home-court advantage in a series.
As for Pietrus, yeah, he needs to play more. I’d really like SVG to play Lee/Pietrus/Turkgolu/Lewis/Howard. That’s the Magic’s best lineup, statistically, and it causes problems for the Cavaliers (and any other team).
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crazy game
I feel like we can beat these guys, but we have to show urgency and aggression in the first half.
They have to come out and be the aggressor in Game 3.
Hell of a comeback and I wasnt expecting us to win game 2 beforehand but we cant let this opportuitny slip us!
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by Wasabi Steak on May 23, 2009 5:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree .....
…we need to come out flying in Game 3!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magic got the split, but wishes it had more.
Can’t blame the team, but Orlando should be okay.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
E!
We need some commentary from you, Brother, because most of us seem to feel a lot more optimistic/unflapped about this game than you do. Why the great concern?
by farfromfl on May 23, 2009 6:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The concern is he picked the Cavs in 6...
…probably would rather the Magic make him look good than have them win!! LOL
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by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
He feels it’s a 1-1 split. Both teams have a lot to feel good about. We do, for the reasons pointed out here. They do because they just picked up a victory when they shouldn’t have. The Cavs are not scared, they are an incredibly confident team. Both teams are going into Sunday expecting a win. Neither team has the mental advantage. The concern is valid. I believe we will win this series. Hell, in my mind we are the championship favorites. But we won’t win he series if we let the Cavs score 30 in every first quarter. Time to wake up blue.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 23, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this ....
…how about it SVG…can we just move the 3rd qtr offense and defensives schemes to the opening tip-off and save us the aggravation????
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep thinking that, bud.
That’s a stupid assumption.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lighten up...it was a joke!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta jump on something. Blah,Blah, Blah.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on May 23, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shouldn't be your concern.
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by Surfdog on May 23, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not concerned, just trying to keep things in perspective.
All I want to see is the Magic hold serve at home in Game 3 and Game 4. If the team can do that, then I think Orlando will put itself in a prime position to win the series. There’s no telling what LeBron’s shot will do to Cleveland’s psyche. That’s an unknown factor right now that won’t be known until Sunday.
The Magic players know they can beat the Cavaliers, just have to go out there and do it. As I said above, from reading Hedo Turkoglu’s response to the game-winning shot, he doesn’t seemed to be too concerned. We know Orlando will bounce back. I’m just curious to see what that shot does for Cleveland.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Satisfied.
I appreciate that you approach this more analytically than I do. I’m an analyst by trade, and I believe in the power of trend analysis, but I’m a long-time fan of the Magic, with a family that does nothing but yell and scream about the team from an emotional viewpoint.
Great blog.
by farfromfl on May 25, 2009 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, man.
Glad you enjoy the site!
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by erivera7 on May 25, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough loss to swallow.
I thought that the Magic was going back in Orlando up 2-0 after Turkoglu’s shot but LeBron hit the buzzer… the defense was pretty bad but there were other threats on the floor for the Cavs so I can understand the mistake. Too bad for Orlando but still, they are in the driver’s seat since they go on their floor for two games, and since the Cavs needed two huge performances from LeBron just be at 1-1 on their homecourt! They are not a good road team and Orlando will come with a vengeance.
PS : I can’t stand Mo Williams even more than before… what a classless jerk.
by Drucci on May 23, 2009 8:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how you can say they aren't a good road team.
Just because they didn’t fare well in Orlando doesn’t make them a bad road team. They had the same road record as the Magic during the regular season, and we were considered one of the best road teams in the league. They also haven’t lost a road game yet in the playoffs. I know, it was against lesser opponents, but I think that statement is a little uninformed! It’s going to be a battle and the team needs to come out prepared and ready to play a full 48 minutes, not just 32!
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by malars on May 23, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Word. Agreed.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I definitley would love to see them play all 48 minutes like they did April 3rd!!
…man would that suck the life blood out of the Cavs…but honestly…i could care less if we win both games at home by a point each….AS LONG AS WE WIN BOTH GAMES!! GO MAGIC!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Defense was bad????
…while i admit they need to come out more agressively in the first halves of these 2 games…..any time when you can hold ateam like the cavs to 43 and 40 second half points in back to back games….thats far from bad defense my friend!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
33 and 30 in both first quarters
that’s shameful for an elite defensive team like Orlando. The Magic are too big and athletic to accept that.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 23, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, yeah.
Dwight Howard really needs to make his presence known defensively for the team .. he’s done okay on defense the first two games, but he needs to really ratchet up his intensity level.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On offense he was completely stifled as well.
No crying about his 8 touches this time i see.
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by Surfdog on May 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Dwight needs to call out Stan again..lol
…but the bullseye squared on his shoulders like game 6 against the Celtics…i’m in the mood for a nice 20/20!!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming you meant the defense was bad for the game, not for the shot.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is up with our first quarters? At this point I wouldn't mind seeing the Magic start Howard/Turk/Shard/Lee/Pietrus
I mean just to throw off the Lebron/Rafer thing that seems to get us so turned around…I realize that screws up the Pietrus in for Turkoglu substitution and rest and maybe makes us vulnerable foul wise, but I’d still like to see a little of it. Or at least a quicker jump to it if things start out the same way.
So far these games have been far too similar for my liking.
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on May 23, 2009 8:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know man
Rafer hasn’t been the problem. Personally, I was very happy to see JJ get in the game. Aside from a few stellar plays, Lee hasn’t been that good. I screamed “Lee what are you doing!” more than a few times last night. If he can’t get it together for the long stretch than JJ may need to see more time.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 23, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I thought Rafer had a horrible night. AJ had more points AND assists than him
But I wasn’t meaning to hate on Rafer. I just mean we have to run those same successful plays from the 3rd quarter in the first quarter. JJ did well last night with 7 points in 10 minutes. Courtney had some sweet plays too but he has to play smarter bball and try to limit his turnovers.
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on May 23, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though JJ scored 7 pts, he was also the constant focus on defense as the Cavs were purposefully forcing switches on screens until they got Lebron on JJ for easy scores.
And they were REALLY easy scores when this took place. The only time I want to see JJ on the floor is if Lebron is NOT on the court AND Pavlovic IS on the court…though, Pavlovic took JJ to task as well. So…I dunno, his 7 pts on offense were way outweighed by his negatives on D.
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by malars on May 23, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
J.J. can’t be on the court when LeBron is playing .. that’s .. that’s just suicide.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SVG deserves credit for how he's used JJ Redick so far
Without JJ’s offense in the 2nd qtr, I’m not sure Orlando maintains contact for the 2nd half to happen last night.
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by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He deserves credit, sure.
Redick was effective, though the defensive mismatches were maddening to watch.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing how he went from starting and playing 30 min a game vs BOS
To barely sniffing 10 min vs CLE
Just proves even more, the NBA is all about matchups
by bandrewg08 on May 23, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yizzir.
.. especially in the playoffs.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Rafer had a bad game.
He didn’t do much of anything last night .. and yeah, Courtney needs to play a little smarter.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair to Rafer though
It’s not like he cost the Magic the game. He minimized his Turnover’s and shot’s. They just didn’t really go down for him last night.
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by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, he didn't cost the team the game.
.. but he certainly could have contributed a little more on offense.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take C. Lee over JJ all day long!!
…and i’m a big JJ fan….but Lee has a much better all-round defensive game and has ICE in his veins…haven’t seen that in JJ so far. Commentators have been givcing Lee props all over for playing like a 10 year vet , not a rookie!!
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like what you're thinking, but can't start that lineup.
.. for the reasons you mentioned. In any case, SVG should play Lee/Pietrus/Turkoglu/Lewis/Howard more.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the money maker right there.
The Surfdog
by Surfdog on May 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as a neutral party...
but i feel this series is going to come down to game 4. i believe orlando wins game 3. i think orlando gets out early and the cavs have to play from behind. comes down to game four. if the magic win and return to clelveland up 3-1, the magic in 6.
The cavs have zero answers when the magic start shooting well. and it is obvious that james’ supporting cast is just not that strong. the cavs get zero from their bench. the cavs aren’t defending period.
Stay the course orlando…you guys should be up 2-0 right now and though you aren’t…i am feeling you are the more complete team.
by celticinorlando on May 23, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one more thing
i am not saying boston is better than cleveland…but they did match up much better with the magic. and in the end….when you guys get to the finals you will look back at the Celtics series as being your toughest series…much like us and the cavs last season.
by celticinorlando on May 23, 2009 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't disagree.
The Celtics were a tougher matchup for the Magic.
Don’t say "when’ .. don’t want to jinx anything! But we appreciate your kind words.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Hell, the Magic caught some breaks near the end, as James was whistled for two rare offensive fouls as well as a traveling violation in the fourth period.”
Are you saying that these weren’t the correct calls being made (because they absolutely were the right calls), or are just saying you are surprised we actually got the calls against Lebron at the Q?
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by malars on May 23, 2009 9:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the refs were just starting to get the feeling....
….that everyone had just seen them make something like 6 bad call against the Magic in a row and decided then need to make the “correct” call against Lebron to even things out…although the charge on Pietrus was kind of sketchy….there is no was Pietrus gets that call normally
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by MagikFanatic on May 23, 2009 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I would say that was the clearest cut offensive foul, and that the one they called when he ran into AJ's shoulder was the only one that could be considered "close"...
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by malars on May 23, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
..maybe it way AJ not Pietrus...
…it was the one where he just nudged the defender,….not the one where he trucked the guy..lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally speaking, I was surprised the calls were made.
Shocked is the better word, actually.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I am sick of..
Is the hype.. Its all Cavs all the time.. we won game one and all anyone did is talk about the Lebrons awesome game, and what they need to do to beat us.. we lost game 2 and now its ‘Witness to greatness!’ Man. I was screaming at the TV most of the night because of the seeming force-shield that james has around him for deflecting calls. Did anyone notice that when lebron got called for a foul he complained to the refs and immediately down the floor we got called for an offensive foul? I mean, what is this – professional wrestling?? Im not screaming conspiracy theories or anything, but this ‘megastar forceshield’ crap has to go.
by i2ambler on May 23, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
As a neutral fan of this series (Bobcats fan), the media is clearly centering on the Cavs. The Magic could win but they would be like OMG LIKE LEBRON BEST EVER FTW."
Also, as a neutral viewer, the refs are being unfair. Lebron get insane superstar calls, and Dwight gets nothing (jeez, especially in Game 1).
That said, I would like to see the Magic and Superman stick it to the Cavs!
by CharginChuck on May 23, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A "neutral" fan ?
That would like to see the Magic ……….stick it to the Cavs? Wow! Way to make a point. LOL
So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.
by Juannieboy on May 23, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Kobe fans and Lebron haters are definitely rooting for us in this series...lol
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Officiating Was Crap
James should practically be the fourth ref, because he makes the decisions. A ton of calls went against us that shouldn’t have, especially the ball being thrown at D-12. But to all of the hype, the Magic work better when they are the underdogs… let the media keep praising the Magic; Sunday night we’ll see.
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by Bestjagfan on May 23, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean, let the media keep praising LeBron and the Cavaliers.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love being the under dog...takes all the pressure off us and on them to live up to the hype!!
…let’s hope it continues all the way to the title!!:P
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you expect from the media
Orlando doesn’t sell newspapers or attract viewers, LeBron does. Orlando is not the main attraction here.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 23, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sentiments exactly.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure if this has been commented on, but did anyone see the post game interview with Mike Brown? This guy has to have the biggest mouth I have ever laid eyes on. And the way he uses his mouth in his facial expressions……. kinda creepy…. Haha I know this has little to nothing to do with anything, but I just had to get it off my chest.
by LAX inc. on May 23, 2009 10:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hah. That's funny.
Thanks for the insight.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha exactly!
Freaks me out every time, glad someone else noticed
by bandrewg08 on May 23, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was on a Cavs Blog and the called him AL Roker....
…you know…..the weather guy.??? I thought it was hillarious!!:)
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by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm still in shock
they did seem to call it straighter towards the end …. and the magic did play shitty ..
but that does not excuse david stern deliberately instructing these referees to make these shiesty calls ….
i mean that courtney lee call … that bucket would have been absolutely huge, it would have given us the first lead… and we still almost won! f_ _k stern
by coque429 on May 23, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Magic almost won, regardless.
Don’t fret about it, too much.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they really didn't play well until they hit the end of the 3rd.
and still came within 1sec. of pulling it out with another great comeback. Disapointing but still something SVG.will jump on.
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by Surfdog on May 23, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, they've replayed Bron Bron's shot about 15 times in the last 20 minutes, mostly in rapid succession...
…now they are showing his greatest shots of his career! I think I’ll go throw up now!
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by malars on May 23, 2009 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
* on ESPN SportsCenter
Orlando Magic ECF-bound!
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by malars on May 23, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now another 5 times with various announcers' reactions!
GAG!
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by malars on May 23, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How did you think I felt having to do The Morning After post?
Yikes. I’ve tried to avoid any sports-related media today.
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by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They began Sportcenter with...
And the #1 pick in the 2003 NBA Draft goes to… The Cleveland Cavaliers.
ugh
by bandrewg08 on May 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol...this shot will mean nothing if we hold home court and take the Cavs out!!
…it will rank just above his 49 points in a losing effort in game 1:P
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Com'on Boys!
This is NBA playoff basketball at it’s finest!
No need to be bitter about about, the refs, the media, Stern, etc. I completely understand the reaction about Mo Williams putting Dwights life at risk by throwing that ball at his rear. Can’t understand why he would be miffed about Howard trying to take his head off.
Seriously, the Magic are playing great ball and should be up 2-0. However, due to a great play, they are not. Play on!
So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.
by Juannieboy on May 23, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One could argue Juannie
That both Orlando and Cleveland can play EVEN better than they have.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I honestly dont see how! The series so far has been "fantastic".
Both games have been hard fought. Both team giving it evrything they have. I want more!
So I told her," I'll be nicer if you try to be smarter!'..That was a mistake.
by Juannieboy on May 23, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could be tighter believe it or not
Both teams could turn over the ball slightly less. Natch, it doesn’t really matter. Been a fun series to follow, and I’m not a fan of either team.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando could try showing up for all 4 quarters!!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Took a while, but...
finally realizing we just need to stop complaining about calls, because we knew it would be like this anyway. I think it just makes our team that much more motivated to overcome all the hype that is Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers.
The media can write and say what they want, but I love how it doesn’t phase the team at all. You can just see it in their faces that they KNOW they’re taking this series.
Love this team’s “swag” (as they say these days).
by bandrewg08 on May 23, 2009 1:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definitely agree here.....
…Love Turk reaction to “The Shot” ….he was like…ehhh…we’ve seen this at least 3 times this playoffs….it’s old news now..lol:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dwight looks so sad :(
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on May 23, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The officiating was bad for both sides--but the Magic still got the better end of the deal
I know this post is going to get flamed because I’m a Cleveland fan, but too bad! Shoulders and elbows from Dwight Howard may break my bones, but words from bloggers will never hurt me!
I agree that there were some really dumb calls against both sides last night and that the refs were WAY too involved in the game last night. I also concede that Mo Williams got lucky he didn’t get a tech last night. I also think the Magic are an extremely difficult team for us to match up against…BUT…
Don’t even tell me that Dwight Howard was doing anything he shouldn’t have been called for right before Mo threw the ball at him! The only reason the refs didn’t see anything was because they had already whistled a foul and play was over. Mo Williams just finished the play—like guys who pick up the ball a second or two after the call. Either Dwight Howard is deaf or he is a thug, because the head shot he took at Mo was just outrageous, and would have AT LEAST been a tech if not a flagrant against DH. Dwight got lucky on that one…
And then there were all the calls against Joe Smith and Sasha Pavlovich—I know some of those lame calls went against you guys too, but that last one on Sasha was just a farce. I do have to say that the travel call on James just before that was absolutely correct—as long as you ignore the two muggers pushing him off balance, making it impossible for LeBron to shoot. And then a few plays before that LeBron got mugged by 3-4 of your guys coming down the lane, but apparently none of those guys fouled him, even though he ended up on the ground with no ball in his hands.
People in Cleveland talk about how our teams always choke. I don’t think our Cavaliers are chokers—but I do think they’re choking. They are being choked by the NBA officials raining down bad calls on us since Game 4 against Atlanta. The only difference in this series is that the Magic are actually good enough and composed enough to take advantage of the opportunities created and the momentum disrupted.
You guys can whine all you want now about how wrong my post is. But just remember that your guys WILL start bricking shots like a bunch of middle school kids, they’re due any time. Just remember that all the whining and biased officiating in the world didn’t put Atlanta anywhere but further behind. Just remember that the Cavs only dropped two in a row twice this entire season. And just remember you guys are WAY better than Atlanta, but NOT good enough to keep the King from reigning and raining The Shot down on you.
I hope you guys are all right about the NBA wanting a Kobe vs. LeBron Finals. If you guys want to whine about stuff, take a place in line—we in Cleveland have EARNED the right to a lot more grieving here in Cleveland than you guys could ever dream of—so let us have our year. I want to see a fair fight—one where guys aren’t getting beat up or called for fouls where officials want to see them. If the Magic won without thuggery or poor officiating, I’d concede they deserved it without a doubt—and in many ways I see where your guys could. Just stop trying to make yourself believe the officials are in our corner—they’re definitely NOT.
May the best team win, and not just the ones the refs like…
by WhyHateCleveland? on May 23, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh look how adorable you are writing that long post
I just want pinch your cheeks and tussle your hair with that middle school reference you made.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on May 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL @ both of you
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for posting,man
some funny points you have there. we’re not good enough? yeah,you got us there. we don’t know you half expected to sweep us,too. no,you were not scared as hell last night. we’re way better than you thought us to be,and you all know that.
as for the refs,of course you got some bad calls too,that’s normal. i agree,some elbows from D12 may have been whistled. but to say refs were on our side,well… maybe you watched some other game than all of us here did?
by Dzogi on May 23, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only response I have after reading that is...
Stupid is as stupid does.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That long a$$ post.....it was almost like he was trying to convince himself wasn't it..??? lol
..TOO FUNNY!!
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm from Cleveland!
If you think I sound worried, you must not know Cleveland sports well enough to know why I would be worried…
Go look these up, and then you ask yourself why we might be a little worried in Cleveland sometimes:
Red Right 88
The Drive
The Fumble
The Shot
Jose Mesa
2006 ALCS where our #2 pitcher couldn’t get a strike called unless the batter swung—and the batters only swung on meat pitches that went over the fence. You could see the desperation in Fausto Carmona’s eyes…
So yeah, we might be worried. Some of you can go talk to your parents and grandparents who moved down from Ohio and they can tell you all about it. Just listen to LeBron’s interviews—he understands what it’s like to be a distraught “why us!?!” Cleveland sports fan because he’s from around here. But that’s why you guys better watch out!
The refs are just trying to keep it close—they don’t make big bucks on sweeps—but they do on close games and close series. And you guys are gonna have to put up with LeBron breaking your hearts all the way to Game 7. LeBron will NOT give up until he brings home a Cleveland championship!!! And your Magic are in his way!
Fight you will, but succeed—you will not…
BTW… I actually put a little analysis and used examples to back up my points—maybe some of you kids who had very little substance in your replies to my post should consider doing some classes in summer school to make up for your soft writing skills.
by WhyHateCleveland? on May 24, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think any common sports fans knows the trials and tribulations of Cleveland fans.
.. we get it, but no need to belittle Orlando and accuse them of “thuggery” when that’s not factually accurate or the people in this community (that goes both ways, mind you). That’s unnecessary.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on May 24, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Te salud.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That loss was rough
But I cannot help but feel that Magic will utterly destroy Cleveland in Game 3 because of the outcome of this game. I can see our guys being super intense. I’m also predicting a couple of very hard screens on Mo Williams by Dwight.
Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek
by funny80sguy on May 23, 2009 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it bad of me to say I would enjoy a animated GIF of your last sentence?
Bitter? Why yes how’d you guess haha
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on May 23, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh man, that would be fantastic :3
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on May 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know that the Magic were playing the percentages with LeBron last night.
Figured I’d toss this number out there ..
http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM
In clutch time, James shoots 42% from three-point range (34.4% is his season-average).
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yowzah
That is retarded ridiculous.
Evil Cowtown Inc: Screwin' Suckaz over since Nineteen Eighty-Five.....
No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. Simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get all tangled up, you just tango on.....
by pookeyguru on May 23, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to scroll down a bit to find Turk!
And he’s only the 3rd "clutchest" on the team (behind Jameer and Rashard).
Also 20% from 3? Uhh… huh?
by bandrewg08 on May 23, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hedo can score in the fourth quarter and hit big shots, hence the nickname.
.. but Turkoglu’s problem is that he’s inefficient.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
by erivera7 on May 23, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hedo's percentage is skewed by the fact that he is usually onlt GREAT 1 out of every 4 games!!!
…..and below average the other 3..lol…..luckily for us he’s in an opt-out year!!! He’s playin for the Benji’s baby!!:)
"if you're going to cry...go cry to your mama"
by MagikFanatic on May 24, 2009 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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