Orlando Magic 107, Cleveland Cavaliers 106: The Morning After
- Brian Schmitz reveals head coach Stan Van Gundy's thinking when Mo Williams put up the desperation heave with 1.0 second left in the game:
Cavs guard Delonte West missed a 3-pointer, and with one second left, a wild scramble resulted in a jump-ball between James and Hedo Turkoglu. James batted it out to Mo Williams, who barely missed a desperation shot.
"I'm not an optimistic guy and when Mo Williams caught it and shot it off of one foot, I was sure it was going in," Coach Stan Van Gundy said. - Mike Bianchi points out an interesting dynamic developing in the series between Orlando and Cleveland:
Let's face it, the Cavs are worried. Very worried. They would much rather be facing the beleaguered Boston Celtics right now; not a Magic team that has beaten them 9 of the last 12 times they've played.
The Cavs entered this series 8-0 in the playoffs, winning by an average score of 16.8 points per game. Now, astoundingly, they are 0-1 against the Magic. LeBron scored 49 points — and they still lost to the Magic. They led by 16 at one point — and they still lost to the Magic. They played in this nuthouse known as Quicken Loans Arena — where they have lost just two games all season (one if you count the final defeat of the season when Brown was resting his starters) — and they still lost to the Magic.
Let's be bluntly honest. The Magic don't need to win this series for their season to be considered a success. Winning Game 7 in Boston on Sunday night took care of that, and the Magic are now playing with house money. Magic fans are excited about their team, but they don't exactly qualify as long-suffering. If the Magic win, great. If they don't ... hey, kids, who wants to go to the beach today?
Here's all you need to know: We live in a place called "The City Beautiful." Clevelanders live in a place called "The Mistake by the Lake." The people up here are tortured fans. They have endured "The Drive" (John Elway) and "The Fumble" (Earnest Byner) in football, The "Shot" (Michael Jordan) in basketball and "The Choke" (Jose Mesa) in baseball. What will they call it if they are somehow beaten by the Magicians — "The Disappearing Act"? [...]
The Magic want to win.
The Cavaliers need to win. - George Diaz states that Orlando, it seems, did the near impossible last night after the team came back to win over Cleveland - silence the Q:
There's plenty of basketball left to play, people, but in terms of relevance, stealing a game here is huge.
The TV theme for the playoffs has a nice ring to it: "The NBA, where amazing happens."
Then the Magic came to Cleveland and silenced the din from the Q.
Amazing indeed. - During the third quarter yesterday, SVG said some wise words to his team:
Van Gundy, who wore a microphone, kept a cool head and told his team to just chip away at the lead.
He made a smart decision to bring Mickael Pietrus off the bench early in the third quarter to get an offensive spark — something desperately needed with Hedo Turkoglu's cold pizza shooting.
"They don't know about this; we do," Van Gundy told his players in a huddle.That message soon turned prophetic, as the game progressed.
- Kyle Hightower talks about the point guard matchup between Rafer Alston & Mo Williams and believes each will play an important part in the series.
- Here is the video of Dwight Howard channeling his inner-Shaq last night:
- UPDATE 2: David Steele writes up his post-game analysis. Check it out.
- UPDATE 3: Dwight Howard posts on his official blog about yesterday's win:
It gives us motivation that nobody thinks we can win this series or even slow down LeBron at all. Hey, we held the dude under 50, what more do they want from us? (Just kidding, ya’ll).
I think we showed in the second half what kind of heart and fight that we have as a team. We’re just not going to go away. You are going to have to kill us to get rid of us in a game.
You would think people would see that by now after the way we fought back against Philly and Boston, but I guess we just have to keep on proving ourselves. But we’re just lil’ old Orlando and nobody is ever going to give us any credit for anything. - For a Cavs perspective on Game 1, check out Cavs: The Blog, Fear The Sword, and WaitingForNextYear.
Click after the jump to see what the national media had to say about Game 1.
- Tim Povtak provides his recap of yesterday's game between the Magic and Cavaliers:
The top-seeded Cleveland Cavaliers got tested for the first time in these playoffs. And they failed that test, losing the home-court advantage that they worked all season to get. They looked stunned after the final buzzer of a 107-106 loss.
After sweeping easily through the first two rounds -- winning all eight games by 10 points or more -- the Cavs discovered Wednesday that it's a different game against the really good teams.
As great as he is, LeBron James -- the NBA's MVP -- can't do it all by himself, which should have been a concern before this Eastern Conference final began. James was superb with 49 points, but he let someone else (Delonte West) take the final shot, and that was a huge mistake. No one else was ready.
The Magic, relying on a Big Three of Dwight Howard, Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu, used their better balance and some clutch shooting down the stretch when the pressure mounted. - Bethlehem Shoals of The Sporting Blog thinks Orlando's win over Cleveland didn't feel like an upset, in his opinion. This is what Shoals had to say before the game ..
What we know is this: The Cavs have swept both of their previous playoff opponents without breaking a sweat, while the Magic have stumbled multiple times and at one point nearly imploded. Cleveland’s young star is being feted one of the game’s all-time greats, while Orlando’s Dwight Howard has come under increased scrutiny. Oh, and the Magic have had to make due without All-Star PG Jameer Nelson this entire postseason, while the Cavs just might be fully healthy for the first time since who knows when. So this isn’t like Denver, where we’re looking to find out how a team fares when it's faced with a monstrous challenge.
No, this is more along the lines of what the Lakers went through last night: showing us who they really are. Orlando’s been every bit as all-over-the-place as LA, except without the elite pedigree to back it up. In fact, we were all looking to the Magic's playoff performance to confirm that the regular season hadn’t been a mirage. Losing Nelson was bad, but do we interpret their playoffs thus far as proof that he means that much to him, or a sign that, like LA, the Magic just need the proper motivation. I’m inclined to think it’s the former. But if Howard decides to try and steal some of LeBron’s spotlight, Turkoglu can provide someone with a mismatch, and the shooters make their shots, this could be a ballgame... and this is what he had to say after the game ..
That didn't feel like an upset, did it?
Maybe I'm crazy for saying that, but there's little reason to think that 1) Dwight Howard can't be a force through three quarters; 2) the Magic, a team drowning in 3-point marksmen, can't get their long-range game going; 3) Hedo Turkoglu (pictured), one of the league's most underrated players, can't do a little bit of everything. That’s Orlando’s game plan, and while it's easy to joke about it or see the team as flawed, the Magic have the talent to make it work. Yes, they’d be even better with Jameer Nelson, who really stitched the whole thing together, and sometimes you get the feeling that you’re watching a Rube Goldberg device unfold over four quarters. When it works, though, as it did tonight, it’s hard to argue.
And it’s not as though the Cavs played a terrible game. Mo Williams didn’t exactly live up to his reputation as LeBron’s first mate, and the ball wasn’t moving particularly well, but King James had the kind of playoff performance that, had Cleveland won, would’ve gone straight into the pantheon. Dwight Howard may have taken out the shot clock early on, but LeBron’s untroubled drive right into the reigning DPOY was almost as absurd a feat of sheer strength. Given how enormous James has gotten, this battle of superstars seems almost as relevant as Wade/James or James/Kobe. - Chris Sheridan of ESPN.com notes what SVG said to his players at halftime, when the Cavaliers held a 16-point advantage over the Magic:
"He (Van Gundy) told us we all look like witnesses," Howard said of his coach's halftime speech, "and we can't have that. That really motivated us, because he said y'all are out there just watching (James) dunk, and that brought some fire out of us."
But while Van Gundy did some screaming, he also did some pleading and prodding, repeatedly telling his team that Cleveland might not respond well to a nip-and-tuck game given the fact that they had steamrolled through the first two rounds of the playoffs, winning every game by double-digit margins, and could turn a tad uptight if things got a little too tight.
And he couldn't have been more right.
"The one thing about our team, and it's been pretty consistent all year, but this is resilient basketball team. This team will keep playing," Van Gundy said. "All I was talking about was getting our heads right, gather ourselves, and try to do it possession by possession. I said we're not going to get it all back in six minutes, but let's get it to 10, get it to six, get it to two and put pressure on, then we got the lead. The players did very good job of that, keeping their heads and staying in the game." - Elias Sports Bureau, Inc. shares this tidbit about how rare Orlando's comeback was over Cleveland, at the Q:
The Cavaliers took a 16-point lead against the Magic, and you couldn't blame the fans in the Quicken Loans Arena if they thought this one was in the bag. In the LeBron James era, prior to Wednesday night, Cleveland was 100-5 (.952) in the regular season and 10-0 in the playoffs when it held a lead of more than 15 points at home.
- Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports surmises what the Magic's win over the Cavaliers, last night, meant for the perception of the team:
No more do the Magic have to contend with that soft label that comes with so many jump shooters. With the Game 6 and 7 victories over the Boston Celtics, with this stunning Game 1 victory over the Cavs, the Magic have shown the stomach for pressure playoff basketball.[...]
No, Orlando hadn’t come to be witnesses to the MVP’s championship chase. The Magic took his best shot, and ultimately left LeBron James in the middle of the floor, in the middle of May, bent over and bleeding. - Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don't Lie recaps Game 1 between Orlando and Cleveland:
[...] the Magic, finally, got it right. Offensively, as well. The defense returned to the norm. What we expected, from mid-way through the second quarter (even though the Cavs were still piling it on at that point) until the end.
The offense? There were some leaps and bounds, here.
Starting with Rashard Lewis. I've been begging for him to get more looks and more touches since, well, since it became obvious he could hang with the big boys in Seattle years ago. Problem is, Lewis isn't nearly aggressive enough. He doesn't understand -- or does understand, and is too timid to act upon this knowledge -- that a somewhat contested three-pointer taken over and over again still has a 40 percent success rate for this guy, and that he's helping his team in the long run if he takes it.
And on Wednesday, he took those shots. He also took tough baseline jumpers out of time outs, and benefitted from some Ray Allen-style curl action. It was great to see. I wish it had started in the first half, but he did finish with 22 points on only 13 shots, and in spite of Dwight Howard's(notes) massive play on both ends and Hedo Turkoglu's(notes) all-around brilliance, Lewis was what put Orlando over the top. Not "the best player," mind you; just someone that the Cavs couldn't counter when it mattered, plying a type of trade that despite the typical line (22 points on a good shooting mark, seven rebounds), was much, much different from the style that we've seen him work for years.
And if the Magic want to win, he has to keep it up. Has to. No way around it. - Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus delves, a bit, on yesterday's matchup:
Storylines change quickly during the NBA playoffs. Try to keep up.
A week ago yesterday, the Orlando Magic was left for dead after blowing a fourth-quarter lead in Boston and moving within one loss of elimination. Dwight Howard complained about his touches, and people mused about Stan Van Gundy's job security. The night before, the Cleveland Cavaliers completed their 8-0 romp through the first two rounds of the playoffs amidst talk of reaching the NBA Finals undefeated. That sure seems like a lot longer than a week ago now, doesn't it?
Even if Rashard Lewis' three-point attempt had rimmed out instead of proving decisive in Game One, the Magic would have demonstrated with their effort that this is going to be a competitive series, not the mismatch the first two series were for Cleveland. Getting an early win on the road merely reinforces that point.
The Cavaliers were dominant in the early going, catching Orlando off guard by putting LeBron James on Rafer Alston. The Magic was stagnant in the first quarter, uncertain how to attack Cleveland. That quickly changed, and although Orlando still trailed at halftime, the team's 29-point second quarter was a good sign. The Magic never slowed down and won this game with offense, scoring on five of its final six possessions to pull out the win.
What stood out about Orlando's offense in the closing moments was its diversity. The Magic mostly put Hedo Turkoglu in pick-and-roll situations, taking advantage of the fact that he followed up his 12-assist Game Seven outing against Boston with 14 dimes this time around. However, the last two possessions saw Rafer Alston run the pick-and-roll to set up Lewis for a baseline jumper, and Lewis and Turkoglu play off of each other on opposite sides of the court to create just enough room for Lewis' winning three. - UPDATE 1: John Hollinger of ESPN.com admits his gaffe and asserts that the Magic are capable of beating the Cavaliers in this series:
I let you down. Sorry about that.
Of all people, I should have seen through the coronation blitz and realized that Orlando had a great shot to win this series. Unfortunately, I picked Cleveland to emerge in five games.
As I was writing Tuesday's story on how the Magic had carved up the Cavs during the regular season, I immediately began getting a sinking feeling that perhaps I had screwed up. The Magic's point differential during the second half of the season wasn't anywhere close to Cleveland's, but as we've learned countless times, the playoffs are all about matchups. That's why J.J. Redick went from being a 40-minute starter against Boston to DNP-CD against the Cavs, and it's why the Magic went from barely surviving against a weakened Celtics team in Round 2 to having the upper hand on a trip to the Finals.
Sorry to be late to the party, but it's becoming increasingly obvious that Orlando matches up great against Cleveland. [...]
Thus, the Cavs must go back to the drawing board, and it's time for them to unearth the one tactic we didn't see Wednesday night: going small.
This may be the only way for the Cavs to survive. It's easier to double Howard with quicker, faster players, while James can slide up to the 4 and lock up Lewis. The Cavs haven't used that plan much this postseason, but it may be the only way they can guard the Magic in this series. Such a lineup might require them to play Sasha Pavlovic, because Wally Szczerbiak can't guard Pietrus, and that's a terrifying thought. But anything would be preferable to the way they've been chewed up during the teams' first four meetings. - UPDATE 4: Steve Aschburner of Sports Illustrated has five thoughts concerning the Orlando / Cleveland series.
- UPDATE 5: Tom Ziller of NBA Fanhouse explains how SVG and his team didn't freak out or panic against the Cavaliers last night (HT: Stan in a Van):
The Magic won't take contested threes -- the first half proved as much. The studio crew (and color commentator Doug Collins) criticized Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkoglu for being passive in the first half, but that's not quite right. They played Orlando's offense -- they didn't heave up bad shots that define "panic." They waited for the open shot, which was hard to come by in the first half as Cleveland almost conceded Howard's inside dominance in order to shut down the three-point line. You'd think designated scorers like Shard and Hedo would be gunning away down 16 on the road to the best team in the league. But that's just not Orlando's modus operandi. And it's a good thing!
But the Magic do adjust. No coach is said to be as prepared as Van Gundy going into any given game. His whiteboard is, of course, legendary, and his devotion to strategy nearly unmatched. And he figured out how to beat the vaunted Cleveland defense (besides continuing to feed Dwight, which worked well in the first half). Van Gundy had Turkoglu and Lewis work themselves into open shots inside the arc. Like a point guard and center, Turkoglu and Lewis ran the side pick-and-pop to perfection on a few possessions. The two scorers and Rafer Alston ran more draw-and-kick action than usually, using the size or quickness advantages created by Mike Brown's defensive strategy to use LeBron James as a free safety of sorts.
Brown put LeBron on Alston or Anthony Johnson so the MVP could help on Howard from behind. relying on the other wings to cover the three-point line. It worked ... until the penetration mismatches granted to Hedo and Lewis opened up the entire floor. Mickael Pietrus benefited from that. Alston benefited. And in the end, Lewis benefited.
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Indeed.
I love the way SVG used the “witnesses” to pump up his team. I loved one of the fouls Dwight gave to Lebron. It was a hard foul (though he was going for and got the block). To me it showed Dwight taking back the paint. While he wasn’t perfect from there on out, the game changed from the standpoint that LBJ took it in less (until Dwight had 5).
Dwight needs to have that mentality. While he needs to be careful about fouls and hard fouls, I want him to feel like he owns it.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
+1 agreed.
I think Dwights 30 point outing is huge for his confidence..
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
rashard and hedo get all the credit
but dwight was absolutely tremendous. i don’t know how many rebounds he had, but in the second half he terrorized the boards. i can’t even put a number on how many times i saw him jump over/power through varejao and ilgauskas for a rebound in the second half after a good defensive stand.
i also love how this team is maturing right before our eyes. the celtics series was the best thing that happened to us.
not only did they develop some mental fortitude during that series, they now are facing a team that is not even close to as rough and physical as the celtics were. no perkins-style elbows from ilgauskas, that’s for sure.
13 rebounds for Howard.
Unless Cleveland decides to put James on Howard, which is a possibility but I doubt Mike Brown does it because it puts LeBron in risk of getting into foul trouble, there’s no one on the Cavs that can stop Dwight.
Superman needs to bring more, defensively. 0 blocks last night? That needs to change.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
i think it is a mistake to judge dwight's defensive performance solely on the basis of blocks
i saw many, many times lebron (and others) start to drive only to think twice and pull out…
dwight, and the team as a whole, played excellent defense all game long.
Mo Williams did that a lot
Get into the lane, see Dwight, and immediately circle back out to the perimeter.
It’s always fun to watch that.
Probably not James on Howard
but there’s a lot of talk about Cleveland going small. There is some consensus that it might provide them better matchups against Shard and Hedo, however, no one commented on what Dwight is likely to do to Andy Varejao.
Speaking of Varejao (sp), I’m a little concerned about his effect on Dwight. When the Cavs are rolling he tends to get pretty yappy, and Dwight looked pretty fed up with it once or twice last night. Dwight is one of the nicest young centers in the league, but I think he has demonstrated a lack of calm when dealing with the poor attitudes of others during this years playoffs.
I'm not judging Dwight's defensive performance on blocks.
I never said that .. I’m just stating that it’d be nice if he could net a few swats here and there.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Isn't that at least a little realistic given that he led the NBA in blocks this season?
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A little bit, but when it comes to the impact of a player on the defensive end ..
.. box score statistics don’t tell the entire story, especially on defense.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
I just now realized that Dwight only got two free throws the entire game.
In all the excitement of the win, it never really dawned on me until now! That’s an amazing stat considering how aggressive he was throughout the entire game and considering he fouled out. You’d think that somehow, he’d get to the line more than twice!
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LET'S GO MAGIC! LET'S GO!!!
officiating........
A couple of the calls Lebron got were just ridiculous. Sorry but they were. I loved hearing Barkley say, during the highlights, “that wasn’t a foul, that was a bad call.” Some amount of vindication at least.
Its frustrating that Dwight doesn’t get the same type of whistles, and that some of those phantom fouls were called against him…
But hey, we still won right? :)
completely agree
The offensive fouls on Dwight were ridiculous. His final foul was ridiculous too. What is he supposed to do let Lebron run and just dunk?
Lebron is getting all of the Jordan calls; can Dwight just get some of the Shaq calls?
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
third that...
I wasn’t surprise by that stat only because I was saying it all game. I agree with you WMillion, even though you know they’re going to give LBJ all the calls Dwight should have had more attempts at the charity stripe.
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by Wally Balls 407 on May 21, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Howard didn't even touch Lebron the foul that he fouled out for.
Their jerseys may have grazed each other, but Dwight’s arms were clearly up in the air, that’s the definition of a phantom foul. Oh, with the game basically on the line too? How heated would we all be today if it weren’t for Shard.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 21, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the calls were very inconsistant
VVery biased towards the wing players. It wasn’t just LeBron who was getting calls in his favor, it was Rashard too. Dwight couldn’t catch a break, but he still carried us for a large portion of the game. Imagine what that first quarter would have been like with Gortat in the starting lineup? Rashard and Turk were fantastic, but Dwigh was the mvp.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 21, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
inconsisten? biased?
that is being way too generous. the referee with the hair slicked back was crooked, go and watch the game again!!
two stupid offensive fouls, the call at the end fouling out dwight…. all the same guy!!
i watched him all night and he seriously did not call one in the magic’s favor… i wish i had this game recorded just to prove he was crooked
I don't know if Magic fans are long-suffering, but we have suffered a fair share.
Shaq bolting to L.A., and we got nothing in exchange. The “divorce” between Penny and the team/city or Orlando. The ankles of Grant Hill. To be the first team to be eliminated from the first round of the playoffs after the league decides to extend the number of games from 5 to 7, after being up 3-1 (had it been any year before it WE would’ve eliminated Detroit). The Last year of T-Mac and how he left the team. The Orlando Magic has been so far a team of unfulfilled potential.
So, yeah. Maybe the people in Cleveland have suffered more, because they also have more sport teams (even though I am a “fan from abroad” so I can’t speak for the people of the city of Orlando)… but I am not content with the Magic making it this far. I want them to win the championship.
Well, if not this year soon… but preferably this year.
Magic Fan since the 1992-1993 Season.
by North of the South on May 21, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions
We've suffered
Soem of it from bad fortune, but a lot fo the times it has been the teams fault. Orlando has had a lot of luck go their way but have never taken advantage. The time is now.
I still hate Glen Davis
by magic fanatic on May 21, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It all USUALLY balances out (bad fortune, good fortune), at the end of the day.
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Great win for the Magic.
As I said it in the game thread, I was surprised to find myself cheering for the Magic like that! I would have been truly frustrated if Mo WIlliams had hit the last shot. Fortunately it didn’t go in and the Magic won the game, stealing HCA from the Cavs and putting all the pressure on Cleveland. Sure, it’s just one game and the Cavs will probably bounce back but I don’t see them winning this series.
The Magic did a good defensive job in the second half (they were awful in the first half), and I give Pietrus a lot of credit for his defense on James, it was impressive.
I can’t help but post the prediction I had made on Celticsblog before the series tipoff :
" I pick Orlando in 6 games (they’re good on the road, and they have all the weapons to stop the Cavs). In fact I think that Orlando is the only remaining team that can beat the Cavs, because of their good D, their shooters and their ability to go on quick runs. They’ve shown that they can keep their lead at the end of games, and I expect the Magic to win game 1 or 2 in Cleveland. Plus, the Cavs are not a very good road team.
I expect LeBron to put up crazy stats and to play big games, but I think that his teammates will fail him."
So far it came true! The matchups are clearly in favor of Orlando. Lewis had a killer instinct in the second half, especially in the 4th quarter, it looked like he couldn’t miss a shot.
Good luck to the Magic for game 2, I just hope that the team won’t come out without motivation and desire like they did in game 2 against Boston… but it’s highly unlikely in my opinion.
Thanks for the kind words.
I’m hoping the team learns from Game 2 vs. Boston. Like I said in my post, we’ll find out tomorrow night.
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Why are the Magic so mentally tough?
It defies logic. Usually teams this mentally tough are filled with veterans, or teams that have faced disappointment deep in the playoffs and have become toughened as a result.
If you look at the makeup of the players, you don’t see too many players you’d individually classify as mentally sharp. Dwight is a physical freak, but he’s not exactly a seasoned veteran. His personality is goofy rather than intense. Rashard has been a relatively quiet guy his entire career. Hedo, while incredible, has been prone to brain farts and sometimes questionable decision-making. Rafer is a head case.
To me – as much flak as he’s taken for supposedly ‘panicking’ – a lot of this fortitude comes from Stan Van Gundy. His personality may grate on some players, but I think his constant harping keeps players on their toes and prepped for every scenario. I could be wrong, simply observing the Magic from a distance, but I think SVG is the root of a lot of that mental sharpness.
I also think the regular season success has taken each player to new levels of confidence. Hedo grinning and seeming completely relaxed at the end of last night’s game was the epitome of that confidence, to me. This team just has a quiet sort of confidence about them. No real trash talking, no posturing. They just go about their business.
Boston and Philly helped too.
Remember that those 2 playoff series were harder than almost everyone expected. Philly won 2 heartbreakers, when they were, in theory not supposed to. Boston went to 7 games, despite their injuries, which, again in theory, game the Magic the advantage. The Magic must have learned something from those 13 games.
I liked how Lewis kept saying after the game that they were always thinking to keep playing for 48 minutes… that means they learned from the blown leads: that if the other teams were able to comeback against them, then they could comeback in games against other teams.
I agree with you about Van Gundy. And to think that just little over a week ago some fans were asking for him to be fired. He is one underrated coach. Imagine the Magic fire him… who do they get? I’m sorry, but a team like the Magic, full of “nice guys” or “softies” (I hate both terms, and I mean no disrespect, I actually think that it is a positive quality most of the time), need someone like Van Gundy to rally them.
Cleveland is far from over and done, but the Magic believe they can win it all.
Magic Fan since the 1992-1993 Season.
by North of the South on May 21, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
You stated my thoughts, for the most part.
.. that’s why the Magic are mentally tough, to answer the question, because the team has been battle-tested during the playoffs and have dealt with countless late-game situations (six, if my math is right).
Game 1, 3, and 4 vs. Philadelphia. Game 4 and 5 vs Boston. Game 1 vs. Cleveland.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
I think Ray Allen put some toughness into the Magic players.
He was out there on the court after Game 7, talking to every magic player, especially his old pal Lewis, doing his version of the Vulcan mind infusion thingy on them.
Hah. That's awesome.
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Seeing Hedo w/ this Sh!t eating grin before he was gonna inbounds the ball at the end of the game made me wish I was as relaxed as him at that moment
by AB's triple double on May 21, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Seeing that was nice to see.
Like I said elsewhere on the site, the team was so calm last night.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
I agree Hedo looked Happy and Relaxed like he knows something.
How about 14 assists, WOW, he was dishin, setting up Howard, Rashard and anyone who was open. Made some big shots down the stretch too. Great Win!
The Surfdog
Agreed
When he said “Everything’s been easy for them, we’ve been here before and they have not.” I was so hyped after he said that my confidence rose up and I think the players responded well to that.
SVG is a damn good coach and he definitely gets the most from his players.
I think Dwight has snapped.
If you look closely at the SI interview from a month or so ago, it’s very telling. Dwight cried after those horrible series with the Pistons. He’s been the big kid on the playground for a few years now, and he’s taken a lot of criticism from the league at large. Shaq’s venom this year went largely unanswered.
When people say Dwight Howard isn’t good enough, he hurts. That article made that very clear. The Magic (and Dwight) had a dissapointing showing against the Sixers. Dwight showed his frustration. Dwight had a very difficult series against Kendrick Perkins and the Celtics. I see a progression here.
Much has been said about how the Magic play when they’re cornered, and when people discount them. Dwight Howard is the beating heart at the middle of that fire. He’s taken all he’s willing to take this year, and he’s not going to take it sitting down anymore…

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by big aaron on May 21, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
LMAO.
Nice .. I got a little photo post coming up, in a bit. I think last night’s game warrants such a treatment.
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Incredible
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by Orlando Rays on May 21, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Im telling you
If Hedo focused on dribbling to a spot near the free throw line and shooting he would be much more consistent. His mid range jump shot is money..
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AND kept his balance.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 21, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed.
That mid-range jump shot on control is high % shot for him.. C. Lee can show him..
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MOAR PIZZA
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by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 21, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and you need to add this ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLNPDKNoyho
C-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Eddy's (and all of our) favorite word:
It would never have gotten to that point — to the point in which Rashard Lewis could take an open three with the game on the line — if Van Gundy or the Magic had panicked and started jacking up contested threes instead of calmly, progessively opening up the floor with dribble penetrations and set plays. A panicked team would have blazed ahead with improbable, unsustainable hot shooting … or lost by 30. Neither result would have the locker room warm and fuzzy: it’s either a fluke or a blow-out. But a controlled, prepared team — like Orlando in Game 1 — came away with a narrow victory that actually means something today. The Magic know they have the chops, mental and otherwise, to beat the Cavaliers. They just need to execute.
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on May 21, 2009 3:18 PM EDT reply actions
Execute is my middle name.
Thanks for the link, btw! I’ll toss it into the post.
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Run, CLee, run!!
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by TheGiantSquid on May 21, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I could watch that all day
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on May 21, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
LOVE
The Rip City Project, a Blazers blog, thinks this play changed the whole game. He says—and I can’t really see it in the video he has, but I’ll take his word for it—that Courtney stared down LeBron after the play.
so amazin'
Courtney stared down LeBron after the play.
Oh no he didn’t! Hahhaha I love him ♥
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by TheGiantSquid on May 21, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee's body language on that play is "Either I'm scoring, or you're gonna have to kill me. Ain't no middle ground"
"And this he knows if nothing more
That waiting in the dark like destiny
Are those who kissed the dogs of war
And there is no tomorrow."
The more I watch the more stuff I find to love:
The camera flashes, a few Cleveland fans standing up anticipating a block, then confusedly sitting down.
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on May 21, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
LeBron posterized by Courtney Lee!
"Why not us... why not now?"
by Mike from Illinois on May 21, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That dunk was impressive.
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Great win
I watched the game at like midnight and had to contain the yelling. I just hope they don’t give them a win in Game 2 and compete.
Pietrus was so great last night
Like Ziller said, it took a while for Lewis and Turk to figure out their advantage. it clicked for Air France right from the start. This guy has really stepped up in the playoffs, so happy we signed him.
I still hate Glen Davis
I'm happy to see him playing well .. he's one of my favorite players on the team.
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Mike Bianchi thinks the magics season was a success for beating a depleted team in 7? huh? and theyre playing with house money? thats ridicolous. theyre goal should be nothing short of winning it all…I think they can
He's saying that, given the situation (no Jameer Nelson).
In any case, yeah, the ultimate goal of Orlando should be to win it all. The franchise knows that.
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The Cavaliers' bench has to be embarrassed by their performance in Game 1
…a combined 5 points (all by Joe Smith) on 2 of 7 shooting.
Hopefully, the Magic reserves will continue to play as well as they have throughout the playoffs.
"Why not us... why not now?"
by Mike from Illinois on May 21, 2009 6:39 PM EDT reply actions
Off-topic, but I'm watching the Nuggets/Lakers game...
…and I had no idea that former Magic player Steven Hunter was a Nugget…and he’s in UNIFORM! lol
That’s one player I don’t miss and have no idea how he’s still in the NBA!
Orlando Magic ECF-bound!
LET'S GO MAGIC! LET'S GO!!!
Oh, Steven Hunter.
Me and him share some connections .. we both are from DePaul. He had potential, just declared too early. By the way, sorry for not making an open thread tonight for the Lakers/Nuggets game. I forgot. My b.
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No prob.
After tomorrow, I’ll be away from internet until Tuesday and I’m not sure how much interest there will be for that type of thread from the rest of the membership.
Orlando Magic ECF-bound!
LET'S GO MAGIC! LET'S GO!!!
I'll ask tomorrow during the game thread.
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As far as I know, the only current professional basketball player from my alma mater
is Christophe Humbert of JL Bourg in France. We had a guy drafted by the Pistons (John Ebeling), but he went to Europe instead and played pro there for 20 years, and we’ve had a couple other people play in Europe (Kris Kearney, and I think Floyd Lay)
"And this he knows if nothing more
That waiting in the dark like destiny
Are those who kissed the dogs of war
And there is no tomorrow."
Florida Southern College.
.. thanks Google.
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Wow, 29 minutes...
I thought it’d take longer for someone to find it. Yeah, FSC’s where I got my undergrad. Basketball hasn’t really been good there since the mid-90s, and it’s more of a baseball (Greg Pryor, Rob Dibble, and Brett Tomko) and golf (Lee Janzen and Rocco Mediate) school
"And this he knows if nothing more
That waiting in the dark like destiny
Are those who kissed the dogs of war
And there is no tomorrow."
Word, that's cool.
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What is it with so many guys leaving DePaul early?
Hunter played at DePaul only 2 years before leaving.
Eddy Curry had committed to DePaul, but changed his mind and entered the draft right out of HS.
Wilson Chandler played only 2 years there, I think, before entering the draft.
Now, Dar Tucker, after just two years, has declared for the draft as has Mac Koshwal, though I don’t think Koshwal has hired an agent and could return.
I remember you saying that you were pretty sure Jerry Wainwright was going to be fired this off-season; well, that isn’t going to happen, erivera. I know there was a big shake-up with the coaching staff this off-season, but JW will remain the head coach. Jean Lenti-Ponsetto is being true to her word with all the votes of confidence she gave him during and after the season.
I read that their new assistant coaches are supposed to do a lot more recruiting in the Chicago area, which would really help their program, because, as you know, there’s lots of talent here in the Chicago area.
"Why not us... why not now?"
by Mike from Illinois on May 22, 2009 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Academics, that's why.
I was shocked JW stuck around, given what I heard from within the program. JLP is making a huge mistake keeping Wainwright. Hiring new assistant coaches isn’t going to solve the problem.
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Denver just stole home court advantage away from the Lakers!
So, three games into the conference finals, and each game has been a nail biter, two of them (last night and tonight) involved a team coming from 16 or more down to win the game. Also, all three games had a player on both teams that scored 30+. So far, as advertised with three great games!
Orlando Magic ECF-bound!
LET'S GO MAGIC! LET'S GO!!!
Yeah, that was a good game.
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This cracked me up..not sure where to put it:
In reference to Mo William’s crazy shot:
Magic C Dwight Howard said he’d pay Pietrus “200 thousand” if he could make a shot from three-quarters court after practice. After Pietrus swished it, Howard said, "That’s 200,000 pennies
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on May 22, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I saw that this morning .. I'm going to post it in the front page in a sec.
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