Orlando Magic 83, Boston Celtics 75: The Morning After
- Ben Q. Rock gathers the thoughts of head coach Stan Van Gundy yesterday before Game 6 began. Check it out. Some good stuff from the ol' coach.
- Brian Schmitz recaps last night's victory for the Magic against the Celtics:
Counted out by most everyone after losing two heartbreakers in Game 4 and Game 5 to the Celtics, the Magic stayed alive by winning Game 6 the Celtics' way — by grinding and gutting it out. They had no choice. [...]
A Magic team that couldn't score against the Celtics' vaunted defense scored the last eight points. - Mike Bianchi states that yesterday's per
formance for Dwight Howard was all "heart and muscle" ...
Dwight Howard called for the ball.
... and comments on what the big fella's "big mouth" has meant to the team.
Dwight Howard got the ball.
Dwight Howard shot the ball.
Dwight Howard rebounded the ball.
Dwight Howard — a personally determined and nationally denounced
Dwight Howard — dominated the ball.The amazing thing about all this is that Dwight's big mouth probably helped the Magic come up with a big performance. This manic-depressive Magic team somehow thrives on controversy and consternation — whether it's enduring suspensions, coming back from choke jobs or overcoming the star player backing the bus over the head coach.
This is the Magic way. Let them lose a game everybody thought they should win as in Game 5 and something happens to them. Let the naysayers come out and start criticizing them and they respond. Let the doubters start disrespecting them, and these Magic men turn into tough guys.
They didn't win Thursday with glitz and glamour; they won with doggedness and determination. This was not the finesse and free-wheeling Magic everybody likes to say they are; this was the down and dirty Magic nobody ever gives them credit for being. - Geoge Diaz believes Orlando has a great shot against Boston in Game 7.
- Kyle Hightower asserts that it was the "smart guard play" (not a joke, folks) for the Magic that aided the team in the victory last night over the Celtics.
- Chris Sheridan of ESPN.com surmises it was a non-touch, not a touch, for Dwight Howard that was the biggest of the game:
Dwight Howard's biggest touch of the game was a non-touch. At least that's the way I saw it, so I took my premise straight to Howard's locker and bounced it off him when he came out of the shower.
The play came right after Howard checked back in with 7:37 remaining in the fourth quarter. Ray Allen drove the lane and saw the Defensive Player of the Year standing between him and the basket, and he hesitated.
"Yeah, he did one of these," Howard said, motioning as though he were double-clutching upon releasing a shot -- just as Allen had done.
Allen ended up having to put several extra inches of arc on the ball to get it over Howard -- a play known in stat geek circles as an altered shot -- and the attempt missed. Howard then grabbed one of his dozen defensive rebounds, leading to a transition bucket by Courtney Lee that boosted Orlando's lead to three. He never laid a finger on the ball, but I offered it up for consideration as Howard's biggest touch or non-touch of the game.
"Yeah, that's fair," Howard said. - Tim Povtak of NBA Fanhouse shares his recap of Orlando's win versus Boston.
- David Whitley of NBA Fanhouse (remember him, Sentinel readers?) thinks that the Magic & the Celtics "have brought out the worst in each other":
Maybe the entertainment bar was set unrealistically high after the classic Boston and Chicago gave us in the opening round. But Orlando and Boston have brought out the worst in each other.
The games have been decided by which team plays the worse, not the best. On Thursday, the ringside judges gave the decision to Cooney, er, the Celtics. Their fourth-quarter disappearance was almost Orlando-esque.[...]
"We didn't make a lot of shots, but we fought hard and so did Boston," Van Gundy said. "It was not the prettiest game in the world to watch, I'm sure."A win is a win is a win. Personally, I thought the game was entertaining. Not because the Magic won (it helps), but because last night was a battle of wills between two teams that traded blows from the opening tip to the final horn.
- David Steele runs down last night's proceedings between Orlando and Boston.
- Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports explains how Dwight Howard was able to talk to talk and walk the walk in the Magic's win last night.
- Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don't Lie chimes in on Game 6:
The game was ugly. Well, no, the game was inefficient. Yes, there were plenty of missed open shots, but the rest of the clangs mainly had to do with good defense forcing good-to-great players into tough shots.[...]
Same goes for Orlando. Glen Davis can't guard Rashard Lewis(notes), but that hardly matters when Lewis is being funneled into defensive help, forced to tough hangers, and ending with a 7-18 mark from the floor. Hedo Turkoglu was 2-12 before hitting a game-deciding three-pointer late in the fourth, and Rafer Alston was 2-7 before hitting two tough ones down the stretch.
Nothing really different with Dwight Howard in Game 6, it was the same guy we saw all season, save for Game 5. He got offensive rebounds, and some lobs, which means he got shots, and eventual points.
Off memory, he had one back-to-the basket move that resulted in a field goal, but it was an awful lefty hook that Kendrick Perkins(notes) beat him to the spot on, though Perkins fouled Howard and sent him to the line for the and-one. 23 points and 22 rebounds, absolutely keeping Orlando in it with his 10 offensive rebounds.[...]
rlando only hit for 37 percent from the floor and 55 percent from the free throw line, but because they were awarded five more field goal attempts and 18 more free throw attempts than the C's because of the turnovers, the errant shooting didn't matter.
And the bench help from Orlando, in such a slow, error-prone game, was big. And it was almost entirely in the form of Mickael Pietrus(notes) and Courtney Lee(notes), who combined to provide 17 points, five rebounds, two assists, two steals and one turnover in 46 minutes of wing play. - Kevin Pelton of Basketball Prospectus tosses in his two cents on the issue surrounding Dwight Howard's complaints about touches ...
Analysts, myself included, considered Howard’s performance in the game and in this series and found that he hasn’t done much with the touches he has gotten against Boston’s Kendrick Perkins. John Hollinger of ESPN.com looked at Howard’s shot attempts and how they correlate with the Magic’s success over the course of the season, while Ben Q. Rock of the Third Quarter Collapse blog weighed in a day later with a nice look at Howard’s production in this series broken down into second-chances opportunities and touches in the flow of the offense (the latter not nearly being as effective).
That aside, I think the biggest problem here is people are looking at Howard at his worst. First, we can all agree that Perkins has developed into one of the league’s better defensive centers. I’m wiling to argue that Howard doesn’t deserve touches against Perkins. That’s not the same as suggesting he’s a bad offensive player in any matchup. Second, the specific portion of the game being spotlighted is the stretch run, and few centers are effective in close games because it is so much more difficult to get the ball to a post player than a perimeter scorer who can bring the ball up, and also so much easier to double-team them. That’s only exacerbated by Howard’s poor free-throw shooting.
The same complaints apply to Howard’s literal predecessor in Orlando and his spiritual model, Shaquille O’Neal, and they haven’t stopped him from winning four championships when paired with wing players who could help offset his deficiencies down the stretch. Hedo Turkoglu is supposed to be that guy for the Magic, or maybe Jameer Nelson, but Nelson is watching from the bench and Turkoglu hasn’t quite been the same in this postseason, possibly due to his ankle.
The other issue is the classic overreaction to what has happened recently. That goes double for Stan Van Gundy, who has apparently become an idiot overnight. Van Gundy was my pick for Coach of the Year, and I wasn’t alone. Yes, he’s made some strategic mistakes in this series, but are there a lot of other coaches who would have this relatively motley collection of talent in this position? Maybe there’s another coach who would execute much better than Van Gundy in the postseason, but if that coach is unable to get the Magic this far in the first place, that’s pretty much pointless, no? You can’t switch coaches depending on the situation.
Depending on what happens Sunday in Boston, this topic may be entirely moot, and that’s precisely the problem. If Glen Davis misses his jumpshot in Game 4, we’re never having this discussion. It’s entirely too easy to blow things out of proportion, either positively or negatively, under the microscope of the playoffs. The smarter play is virtually always to consider the long-term picture.Pelton echoes some of my sentiments (especially in the first sentence) concerning the overreaction over Stan Van Gundy's coaching acumen.
- UPDATE: ... and Pelton also provides his post-game assessment:
Whatever is ailing Allen, Boston could use a quick fix. This time around, Allen was unable to make the big shot after struggling all night. He missed a three with 2:32 to play in a one-point game. With the game largely out of hand, he missed again with 40 seconds left, then missed a wide-open look inside the final 10 seconds to finish 0-for-7 downtown. This isn't about defense. This is about Allen simply being unable to find the mark.
Where Allen has been successful in this series has been as part of unconventional 3-2 pick-and-rolls with Pierce initiating. The Magic has limited those opportunities by involving Rondo's defender in the play and daring Rondo to beat them from mid-range. Rondo was 3-for-9 on jumpers, and even though two of the makes happened to be three-pointers, that's too many attempts from the perimeter. That's one coaching adjustment for which the much-maligned Stan Van Gundy is not getting enough credit. The other is that, while I'd like to see more of Courtney Lee, making him the designated Eddie House-stopper has essentially taken House out of this series, robbing the Celtics of a source of offense to make up for Allen's frigid shooting.
Doc Rivers and his coaching staff have two days to figure out a way to get the offense back on track in Sunday's deciding Game Seven. Given the trajectory of this series, or lack thereof, I have no idea what to expect from that game. - UPDATE 2: Dwight Howard, on his official blog today, credits former Magic coach Johnny Davis for instilling a mentality that helped him in Game 6.
- UPDATE 3: Elias Sports Bureau, Inc. puts Superman's other-worldly performance against the Celtics yesterday in perspective:
Dwight Howard had 23 points and 22 rebounds for the Magic on Thursday. Over the last 20 years only two other players have had a 20/20 (points/rebounds) game in the playoffs against Boston: Jermaine O'Neal for the 2003 Pacers and Shaquille O'Neal for the 1995 Magic. Howard was the first player to have a 20/20 (points/rebounds) game when facing playoff elimination since Kevin Garnett did it for the Timberwolves in 2004.
- For a Celtics perspective of Game 6, check out CelticsBlog and Celtics Hub.
Make sure to check out this post every few hours for updates.
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May I be the first to say, I have an extremely good feeling for sunday.
History is MADE to be BROKEN.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 15, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions
If C.Lee starts we win the game.
Kidding, obviously it’s more complex than that, but that’s an awful good start.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 15, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
JJ Reddick has to come off the bench and after Pietrus
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
I disagree
JJ has been playing great defense against Ray Allen, why take him out? He won’t go 0-7 again. Won’t happen.
Glen Davis hates children.
by magic fanatic on May 15, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he's 3-25 during this series
hasn’t shot his way out of the slump yet
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on May 15, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I realize you're probably being sarcastic
but he’s 11-38 in the series.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 15, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
he was 3-25 over the past 4 games
that includes 2-13 from downtown
I'm a girl.
by TheGiantSquid on May 15, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Like someone esle mentioned...all that running
around after Allen is hard on the legs…I’m hoping the day off today will get JJ’s legs back under him and he can shoot a better percentage.
by Stan in a Van (Down by the River) on May 15, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's been the problem for J.J.
Chasing around Ray Ray has zapped some of his legs a bit. It’s no coincidence that, as the series has progressed, Redick’s shot doesn’t have the same lift. That’s the explanation.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Here is some criticism from yday's game
particularily d12:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enuJrnd-1b8
from Knicks blog, 7 secs or mess,
http://7secondsormess.blogspot.com/2009/05/7som-dominant-dwight.html
They are questioning whether dwight howard is dominant or nor
.. Dwight can be inconsistent, at times.
I think this series has been a prime example of that.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Thanks for the link, btw.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
It´s funny that reading some Celtic fans, they consider the Magic a 2nd rate team.
Ok, if we are going to compare both team´s history then there is obviously NO contest.
During the existence of the Orlando Magic, Boston has won just 1 championship, while Orlando only was able to make it to 1 final. So Boston wins that one too.
Now, if we are going to compare current squads, then there is not that big of a difference. Boston was 2nd seed, Magic was 3rd. They split the four regular season games, going 2-2. So far in the playoffs the series is tied at 3-3. Oh, sure they don’t have Kevin Garnett and Powe, but we are missing Jameer Nelson (who saving the distances with Garnett, when ESPN was showing the graphics with comparative stats from both players, it was obvious Nelson’s loss was about as bad for the Magic, as Garnett’s is for the Celtics).
Also Orlando still has 2 All-Stars (Dwight and Rashard) and 1 “almost All-Star” (Hedo). Boston has the same deal in Pierce and Allen, while their “almost All-Star” is Rondo.
Magic Fan since the 1992-1993 Season.
by North of the South on May 15, 2009 1:08 PM EDT reply actions
Rondo isn't an "almost All-Star" .. he's a flat-out All-Star.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
I agree. I'm only trying to point who participated in this year's All-Star game heheh
That doesn’t mean I like Rondo, I can’t stand the guy.
Magic Fan since the 1992-1993 Season.
by North of the South on May 15, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
The last game K.Smith did a blackboard thing on how Rondo gets all those rebs.
Seems when Alston goes to cover the corner he goes to the middle and bangs the boards. We need to stop that somehow.
The Surfdog
A couple of Tweaks
JJ back to the bench
No more 3’s for Alston
Hedo brings in his shot selection a little. I would like to see him get his mid-range J going. Build a rhytm then step back.
"No matter where you go, you are what you are playa"-Jay Z
J.J. isn't getting benched, not with what he's been doing defensively against Ray Ray.
.. Lee should play more, sure, but he’s done his job shutting down Eddie House, which is big, because that is the main bench threat for the Celtics. You shut him down, you force the starters to shoulder the load.
I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.
"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
In however many minutes they each played yesterday, C.Lee blew a few assignments on House
leaving him open on quite a few jumpers. I’m not getting on C.Lee, I’m just saying the whole “C.Lee only plays if House plays” needs to end. And it did end in the 4th yesterday as Lee was left on the floor without House. Hopefully SVG continues that trend into Sunday.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 15, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Given the enormity of Game 7, it may end ..
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
J.J.'s legs may be spent chasin Ray around but
he stays in the flow of the offense and is making some plays with his passing.
The Surfdog
That's been Redick's problem.
.. you hit it on the head.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Anybody else have trouble sleeping last night
This game is driving me insane, not gonna sleep well until after Sunday.
Glen Davis hates children.
Agreed. Depending on how it all ends, may not sleep well until Monday night.
"Shoot first, ask questions last" Rafer Alston
by DieSlowKeyshawn on May 15, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The best present I got yesterday..
was the Magic win. It was my birthday and the Magic came through. Can’t wait for Sunday.
(The Laker loss was also a great present. Thanks Rockets!)
Nice. Happy late b-day .. glad the Magic were able to win for you.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Never know!
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Let’s put the truth about the Magic to the test
Let’s STOP this non-sense about the Celtics mystique.
First, all this supposed long-standing 32-game winning streak on games 7, was built by another team, from another era, in a different Arena.
This Celtic team’s game 7 streak is much, much more humble.
Oh, and by the way… the Orlando Magic BROKE their game 7th streak by beating them in game seven at their Old Arena, the very place where Bill Russell and Lary Bird won those games. It was the LAST GAME played at that Arena.
So, just STOP all this blabber, okay?
Second, STOP all this double talk about KG. These “so called EXPERTS” keep pushing the Garnet-alibi, if Boston loses (Stein); or talk of "the depleted Celtics’ (Broussard).
Enough is ENOUGH! WE lost Nelson, an All-Star; our primary offensive director, through which our whole offense ran. And Turk is playing with a bad ankle, just because it’s the playoffs. We are depleted in every conceivable way. As much, or worse than Boston.
Perhaps it’s jealousy that drive all this nauseous drivel, because, with Nelson, the Magic are the ONLY NBA team with FOUR (4) former or current All-Stars active and in their prime!
Still, only two out of six “EXPERTS” pick the Magic to win game 7 at Boston.
There’s only ONE WAY to shut their insolent mouths.
It’s clear that the Magic HAVE to beat this Celtics’ team on Sunday to establish once and for all that WE are now THE DOMINANT TEAM OF THE EAST. Sunday May 17, 2009 will mark the beginning of a NEW dynasty in the East.
GO MAGICS!
by manny55 on May 15, 2009 4:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
hmmmmmm... more-less agreed.
there are reasons why people give chances to boston.
i agree,history does not matter,but look at the recent period: bulls gave C’s very much trouble every game,and what happened in game 7? easy win. yes,easy,it was actually never in question. there are many reasons for that,but magic can overcome them.
and we have one big advantage:we are playing home,in fact,TD (only waterhouse) center was ours :)
People favor Boston because a.) they're the defending champs and b.) Game 7 is at home.
In any case, Orlando is capable of winning the game .. it’s just going to be extremely difficult.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
Umm ..
The Magic didn’t break “their game 7th streak by beating them in game seven at their Old Arena” .. you’re way off. Orlando beat Boston in Game 4 on the road, the final game in the Garden.
The Celtics are depleted. That’s not an excuse, as it is a fact.
The ankle excuse for Turkoglu isn’t valid; he’s stated he’s relatively healthy right now. As for the Magic, the team isn’t really depleted other than Jameer Nelson sitting on the sideline (a huge loss, obviously).
Even if Orlando beats Boston .. Cleveland looms, who is the dominant team in the East.
.. technically, you’re incorrect. With Nelson, the Magic have three All-Stars. Not four. Turkoglu hasn’t exactly been playing like an All-Star this season, either. So can’t really consider him one by caliber of player.
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Grazie.
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Defending champs - KG - Posey - PJ Brown = not the same team
by AB's triple double on May 15, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't forget Leon Powe.
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"Never hate your enemies. It affects your judgement." - Michael Corleone
yeah, I hear all that
Glen Davis hates children.
by magic fanatic on May 15, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonna have to go through the top team before a "dynasty" begins
I like the energy, but we are a long way from your bold predicition.
Glen Davis hates children.
by magic fanatic on May 15, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions

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