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The 6th Seed

For the first time ever at Third Quarter Collapse, the showcased fanpost for this week is authored by the same person, 3QC member RussL, for a second consecutive week. It's widely known that the Magic, with their recent struggles this past week, have fallen to the #3 seed for good. So, now the question is? Who will be the #6 seed? Below are all the scenarios and tiebreakers for the teams in the hunt (Chicago, Detroit, and Philadelphia). Before I conclude, don't forget to check out Eyriq the Red's excellent write-up on the "go-to players" for Orlando. Enjoy. - ER

As we know, the Magic will finish 3rd, and will play the 6th seed, whomever that may be.

As of now, Philly and Chicago are tied for 6/7, with Detroit one game back.  Here are our scenarios:

  • Detroit wins out, Philly loses out, Chicago finishes 1-1.  Detroit and Chicago are tied, and the season series is 2-2.  Both have the same division record.  Detroit has the better conference record, and wins the #6.
  • Detroit wins out, Philly and Chicago finish 0-2.  Detroit wins outright.
  • Philly finishes 1-1, Detroit finishes 2-0, Chicago finishes 1-1:  all three are tied.  The team with the best combined record against both the other two teams wins.  Philly is 4-3.  Detroit is 3-4.  Chicago is 4-4.  Philly wins.  This scenario implies Detroit won tonight's game.
  • Philly finishes 0-2, Detroit finishes 1-1, Chicago finishes 0-2:  all three teams are tied.  Again, the team with the best combined record against both of the other two teams wins.  Philly remains 4-3.  Detroit is 3-4. Chicago is 4-4.  Philly wins.  This scenario implies Detroit beat Chicago in tonight's game.
  • Detroit finishes 2-0, Philly finishes 1-1, and the Bulls finish 0-2.  Philly won the season series 2-1 against Detroit, and wins the tiebreaker between those two teams
  • Chicago and Philly finish 2-0 each.  The teams split the season series.  The team with the best conference record wins, which will be Philadelphia.
  • Chicago and Philly finish 1-1, Detroit finishes 1-1 or 0-2.  The same result as the scenario above, Philly wins the tiebreaker against Chicago and the #6 seed
  • Detroit finishes 0-2, Chicago finishes 2-0, Philly loses at least once - Chicago wins.
  • Detroit finishes 0-2, Chicago finishes 1-1, Philly finishes 0-2 - Chicago wins
  • Detroit finishes 0-2, Philly finishes 2-0, Chicago loses at least once - Philly wins.

But wait, there's more!

  • Miami finishes 0-2, Chicago and Philly finish 2-0.  All three teams are tied.  The team with the best record against the other two wins.  Miami is 5-3.  Chicago is 3-5.  Philly is 4-4.  Miami remains #5, and Philly the tiebreaker over Chicago.
  • Miami finishes 0-2, Chicago finishes 2-0, and Philly loses at least one.  Chicago is 1-3 against Miami, so Miami remains #5, and the Bulls finish 6th.
  • Miami finishes 0-2, Philly finishes 2-0, Chicago loses at least one.  Miami and Philly split the season series.  Miami has the better conference record and remains #5, and Philly finishes 6th.

So really Miami can't actually move down at this point.  But I figured I'd throw them in there since its possible they could tie for 5/6/7.  :)


I *think* that covers all the possibilties :)  Tonight's game between the Bulls and Pistons is critical as we knew it would be.  If Detroit loses tonight, they cannot possibly win the #6 seed. 


The only way Detroit can possibly win the #6 is by going 2-0 and Philly going 0-2.
Philly holds the inside track for #6 at the moment.

This FanPost was made by a member of the Orlando Pinstriped Post community, and is to be treated as the opinions and views of its author, not that of the blogger or blog community as a whole.

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So let's hope for a single Philly win or a single Detroit lost the next 3 days

I’m jumping off the bandwagon of hoping the Magic play Detroit in the playoffs now. With the current injuries and how the Magic have been playing the last few games, they need a less difficult first round matchup to get back on track. Chicago and Philly don’t match up well with the Magic, so either one of them would be fine for an opponent (that being said; anything is possible in the playoffs).

If the Magic are really lucky, Detroit ends up with the 7th seed and beat up on Boston for a bit (I can’t see Detroit winning though).

Even though the Hippopotamus lacks a stinger for a tail, a truly wise man would rather be sat on by a bee. ~ Banacek

by funny80sguy on Apr 13, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

whoa!

there’s a bandwagon????

btw, good breakdown, thanks RussL.

by pcnyc on Apr 13, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, there's a contingent of members in the community that want to see Detroit in the first round.

I’ll go ahead and openly admit I’m one of those people, but given how Orlando has been playing the past week, I’m pausing for a second, so I can see how the end of the season shakes out for the Magic.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

Used to mix the wine with the lean/Now we sip soda with the Barre/20 inch blades on the car - Pimp C

by erivera7 on Apr 13, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great stuff, RussL.

.. I’ll go ahead and showcase this fanpost a little later today, given how the ramification of tonight’s game (Chicago v. Detroit) will have a direct effect on the playoff outlook for Orlando.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

Used to mix the wine with the lean/Now we sip soda with the Barre/20 inch blades on the car - Pimp C

by erivera7 on Apr 13, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I omitted one scenario :(

Damn.

Philly finishes 0-2, Detroit finishes 1-1, Chicago finishes 1-1. Chicago wins of course. That scenario can happen in one of two ways – including Chicago losing tonight. So technically, Chicago cannot be eliminated from contention tonight if they lose.

by RussL on Apr 13, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Hate to say it, but...

PHI is probably going to lose out (they play Boston and Cleveland). Bascially, if DET wins tonight, I figure they’ll turn it up a notch and beat MIA as well on wednesday.

Tonight is the night, but I have a strange feeling we’ll be seeing DET real soon.

by TragicMatt on Apr 13, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe.

That’s why they play the games.

I'm the other guy at Third Quarter Collapse, with a Twitter account.

Used to mix the wine with the lean/Now we sip soda with the Barre/20 inch blades on the car - Pimp C

by erivera7 on Apr 13, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely looks like Chicago right now

Philly will need to match Chicago in order to move up to 6, but they play Boston and Cleveland. Chicago’s already got one win on Philly, so the 76ers MUST win at least one of those games. If Chicago wins their last game (against Toronto) then Philly will have to win BOTH.

by RussL on Apr 14, 2009 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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