How Will The Orlando Magic Finish The Season?
With exactly 10 games to go for the Orlando Magic, the common question that most fans have been asking lately has been, "will the team get 60+ wins?"
Well, going strictly by the numbers, the answer appears to be yes. Which is remarkable, given the fact not many Orlando followers (including myself) expected to see the team reach that threshold after Jameer Nelson was lost for the year. I digress.
I decided to take a look at three different sites that project NBA regular season standings. Here's what each of them had to say, with regards to how many wins the Magic are predicted to end up with:
Basketball Prospectus - 61 wins
Basketball-Reference - 61 wins
ESPN - 61 wins
As you can see, all three websites are in agreement. 61 wins, it is.
Taking a look at the schedule, here's how the wins & losses are expected to look like for Orlando (an upset loss is predicted to occur, so I picked Miami as the culprit. Not saying they will win. I just picked that team for the sake of argument):
Remaining Opponents
Off. Efficiency
Def. Efficiency
at Miami (L)
107.5 (18th)
107.7 (13th)
Toronto (W)
106.4 (23rd)
109.7 (21st)
Cleveland (L)
112.4 (4th)
102.2 (3rd)
at Atlanta (W)
109.5 (10th)
107.4 (12th)
at Houston (L)
108.0 (16th)
103.8 (4th)
Memphis (W)
103.0 (29th)
109.8 (22nd)
New York (W)
108.4 (14th)
110.9 (23rd)
at New Jersey (W)
108.6 (13th)
111.2 (24th)
at Milwaukee (W)
106.5 (22nd)
108.0 (15th)
Charlotte (W)
104.8 (27th)
106.0 (7th)
I think everyone would agree that the games versus the Cavaliers, Heat, and Rockets are winnable match-ups, but it seems unlikely that the Magic would beat all three teams (knock on wood). Likewise, I think everyone would agree that the other games slated to be played (excluding Cleveland, Miami, & Houston) are losable match-ups for Orlando, but it seems unlikely that the team would lose to any of their remaining opponents (knock on wood x2).
In any case, as long as the Magic beat the squads they're expected to beat (with a projected upset loss, notwithstanding), then 61 appears to be the final count in the win column. Question is, will that be enough wins to grab hold of the #2 seed in the Eastern Conference? The jury is still out on that particular question, considering the Boston Celtics are currently tied with Orlando for the #2 seed, for the moment (the Magic are ahead in percentage points, but that won't last).
And remember, if Boston and Orlando finish with the same number of wins, the tiebreaker would currently go to the Celtics (35-10) because they have a slightly better conference record in the East than the Magic (33-11). However, that can change if Boston were to, somehow, slip up and lose to a conference foe (or two). It's worth mentioning this possibility because the C's are, also, projected to finish with 61 wins.
So, what needs to happen for Orlando to secure the #2 seed outright? Simple, win more games than Boston. Given that both squads are projected to finish with 61 victories, the Magic have to (at minimum) win 8 out their last 10 so that the team snags 62 victories. All Orlando needs to do, in that scenario, is beat everyone except Cleveland & Houston. Not too hard, but easier said than done. If the Magic were to suffer an upset loss along the way,
That's the only option the Magic have, because they can't afford to tie the Celtics record-wise at all. There is a scenario where Boston and Orlando could finish with the same record AND the same conference record. All that would need to occur, in that scenario, is for the Celtics to beat everyone remaining on their schedule except Cleveland. Then, the Magic would need to beat everyone remaining on their schedule except Houston and Memphis. Why the Grizzlies? Because they're a Western Conference team. Confused much?
If Orlando beats the remaining teams on their schedule (except Houston & Memphis), they'll finish with a conference record of 41-11. If Boston beats the remaining teams on their schedule (except Cleveland), they'll finish with a conference record of 41-11. Then what? Another tiebreaker, of course, which would go to the team with the better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in their own conference. Who would win that tiebreaker? The Celtics (17-6), because they have a better conference/playoff teams record than the Magic (14-9).
All in all, Orlando has to finish with a better record than Boston to lock up the #2 seed. That's common sense, obviously, but (it's worth repeating) the Magic can't afford to finish the season with the same record as the Celtics. It's as simple as that.
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Either way, this question should be asked...
Is this the greatest team in Magic history?
I personally believe that the 1996 team that lost to the Bulls in the conference finals is the best in team history. They won 60 games and were clearly much more mature and ready to win a title than the previous year’s team. They just ran into Michael Jordan. I have no doubt they would have beaten Seattle in the finals that year.
Is this team better than that team? Hard to compare, but I think this year’s team more resembles the 1995 team that went to the finals. Next year’s team is going to make all this a moot point.
Philip
by philrsquared on Mar 29, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't tab this Magic squad as the greatest one in franchise history .. yet.
Even though, statistically, this is the best Orlando team ever .. I’d still give the nod to the ’95 Magic.
The ’96 Magic were excellent but again, looking at the numbers, the ’95 Magic were a teeny bit better.
However, I’d agree that the ’96 team probably would have gone to the Finals, had it not been for the Bulls.
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by erivera7 on Mar 29, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give me a healthy Jameer..
and i’d say yes, without a shadow of a doubt.
Without Jameer…. its a tough call. I’d still lean towards yes, because we’re that much better defensively than those teams were. This team has a superior coach as well, as much as I like Brian Hill.
Hmmm… I’d have to say yes this is a better team. I think this team, while possibly not as individually talented as that team top to bottom, is more than the sum of its parts. The defensive thing is what really clinches it for me.
by RussL on Mar 29, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fully healthy? Yeah, '09 Magic > '95 or '96 Magic.
This year’s team is MUCH better defensively, as you stated, than the teams before them. And obviously, SVG > B. Hill, not even close .. personally, I just want to wait before officially crowning the ’09 squad as the best in franchise history.
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by erivera7 on Mar 29, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arguably the best team in franchise history
This year’s team is on pace to slightly surpass the 96 team in terms of point differential, despite playing roughly half the season without its All-Star point guard.
by Ben Q Rock on Mar 29, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's unfortunate is the fact that the Eastern Conference is so top-heavy this season ..
.. which may prevent the ’09 Magic from accomplishing the same team achievements as the ’95 Magic.
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by erivera7 on Mar 29, 2009 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No matter what our final record ends up being, I’d definitely still consider the 57 and 60 win teams of the mid-90s to be stronger overall.
Especially the 60 win squad, because outside of the 72-10 Bulls there really was no one else in the league that I saw could realistically beat us in a playoff series.
by MagicMadness on Mar 31, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That season of course, I don’t mean all-time…
by MagicMadness on Mar 31, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd disagree.
Here’s a quick statistical breakdown of the ’09 team vs. the ’95 & ’96 teams.
2009 – 7th in offensive efficiency, 3rd in defensive efficiency (this ranking is so close, though. Orlando has been 1st & 2nd in defensive efficiency throughout the season. Figured I’d point that out), +7.4 point differential
1995 – 1st in offensive efficiency, 13th in defensive efficiency, +7.1 point differential
1996 – 3rd in offensive efficiency, 12th in defensive efficiency, +5.5 point differential
It’s important to note that the Magic’s point differential in 2009, with a healthy Jameer Nelson, was above 8+ (and that’s not taking into account the Rafer Alston trade) .. so there’s a clear divide when comparing the three teams in franchise history.
Plus, Stan Van Gundy > Brian Hill.
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by erivera7 on Mar 31, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we ain't losin to miami
no way.
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by mhetrick14 on Mar 29, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, but ..
.. the numbers projected that the Magic would incur an upset loss to a team other than the Cavaliers or the Rockets. To be frank, Orlando could slip up to any team left on its schedule but I just picked Miami for the sake of argument. Anything is possible with the Heat when they have Dwyane Wade running the show.
Besides, Miami has already proven capable of beating Orlando, once, at home .. they can do it again.
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by erivera7 on Mar 29, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Heat haven't been very good lately, but D-Wade is D-Wade, and it's Alonzo Mourning Jersey Retirement Night
Just saying.
If the Magic drop a game to any team, I wouldn’t mind it being the Heat. Better they than, say, the Grizz.
by Ben Q Rock on Mar 29, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah .. and I'm sure SVG will NOT want to lose to his former employer again this season.
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by erivera7 on Mar 29, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
















