Orlando Magic 84, Boston Celtics 82: The Morning After
- John Hollinger of ESPN.com was in Orlando covering the game and here's a few choice quotes from him.
The game was a carbon copy of the last meeting between the teams March 8 -- when Orlando nearly blew a 22-point edge in Boston before winning 86-79 -- right down to the way it ended. Howard sealed that game with a spectacular defensive play as well, closing out hard to bother a Ray Allen 3-point attempt that would have given Boston the lead; Wednesday he made a similar play on Pierce's final, desperation 3-point attempt at the buzzer.
Garnett didn't play in that game either, so Orlando knows its hairs-breadth victories aren't necessarily a great portent for the postseason.
"[...] while the nail-biting fashion in which they won, along with the absence of Garnett in crunch time, don't exactly inspire confidence in Orlando's ability to defeat Boston in a playoff series, the fact is this win goes a long way toward getting the Magic in position to make the conference finals."
- In response to the Magic's victory over the Celtics, Mike Bianchi thinks the city of Orlando should be more appreciative of the fact the franchise has such a dynamic personality in Dwight Howard.
Sometimes, I think, we take it for granted how good we have it here. How many NBA cities — dead-end, broken-down franchises like Memphis and Minnesota — would sell their souls for an embraceable young star like Dwight?
Said Rivers, the former Magic coach: "After my second year in Orlando, my wife and I said to each other, 'Even when I'm not coaching here, this is where we're going to live for the rest of our lives."
Doc smiles and then says something we should all remember from time to time.
"This," he said, "is a terrific place."
- Kyle Hightower gives some quick post-game analysis surrounding the Orlando's win over Boston.
Where the perception came from is debatable.
But somewhere along the line this season the Orlando Magic, even with all their on-court successes, got the reputation as a soft team. A team that just wouldn’t show its might and muscle in crunch time against good teams.
Wednesday night’s 84-82 when over Boston won’t completely erase make all the Magic’s naysayers instantly change their minds. Though the Magic did go a long way in helping change what has probably been an unfair characterization.
- UPDATE 3: Brian Schmitz offers his take and observations on the match-up that pitted two East powers.
- For a Celtics-centric view, CelticsBlog and Celtics Hub each provide their takes on the game. I highly suggest checking each site out to get a pulse of the Boston faithful.
- Tim Povtak (remember him Orlando Sentinel readers?) writes a lengthy piece for Yahoo! Sports after the dust settled in Magic Kingdom. Here's a snippet of his article:
- Of course, we can't end a post without collecting a plethora of quotes from head coach Stan Van Gundy. Enjoy.
"The last 18 minutes we really slowed down. They got into us, got into our bodies. I didn't think our ball movement was good and we struggled to score."
"When we sit down and look at the film, we can see that we can get quality shots against very good defenses if we move the ball. It shows you something when you have to gut out a win like that. It gives you more confidence. ... and yet people continue to question the toughness of our team."
“All I know is, we’ve beaten a lot of the teams that everyone thinks are better than us. The perception of us does not always match up with reality. We’re not feared defensively, but I’ll put us up against anyone in the league when it comes to being ready to play night in and night out.”
“I don’t think this team lacks for confidence. People can say what they want about us, but this isn’t the BCS. People aren’t voting to see who plays for the championship. That’s decided on the court. And I like that."
- UPDATE: Dwight Howard shared his post-game thoughts today on his blog after leading the Magic to a win over the Celtics. Here's a snippet of what Superman had to say about the game:
When I woke up Wednesday morning the first thing I thought about was how physical Boston was going to be and what I could do to not get involved with all the pushing and fighting. I tried to keep a level head, smile everything off and it actually felt good to play that way.
Marcin Gortat and I had an inside bet that if I talked to the refs more than five times in the game that I had to take him out to dinner. I only got to four with the refs, so it was a pretty good job by me.
I wasn’t fighting with the refs and I was just focused on playing basketball. The game is not always going to go the way that I want it to, so I’m just focusing on playing basketball and having fun out there. I’m happy with the way we played as a team, and the way I kept my cool.
We got a big, big win against the Celtics and we really needed it. It allowed us to win the Southeast Division and it helps us get closer to possibly getting the No. 2 seed and winning 60 games. We’re getting another banner for winning the division, but it’s that big championship banner that I want so bad.
- UPDATE 2: More from Hollinger, who posted his daily PER Diem article today and the subject matter was, of course, the aftermath of Orlando v. Boston:
In the end, the Magic's defensive ascendancy is likely to result in honors for both Howard and Stan Van Gundy. Howard has the inside track on the league's Defensive Player of the Year award, and with good reason -- a team full of perimeter players is challenging for the league's No. 1 defensive ranking thanks to his efforts.
As for Van Gundy, he has to be considered the front-runner for Coach of the Year. Not one living soul expected the Magic to win 61 games this season, but that's what they're on pace to accomplish. If they should pull it off, it would be more wins in a season than the franchise had ever won with Shaquille O'Neal.
And contra ry to popular belief, it wouldn't be because of their 3-point shooting. Orlando does that well, too, of course, but at the core this is an elite defensive team … and one that's still seriously misunderstood.
- UPDATE 4: David Steele provided his thoughts on the Magic/Celtics affair on his blog earlier today; here's what he had to say:
The game itself was everything fans and media types could’ve hoped for, capped off by a down to the wire finish which had the sellout crowd on their feet, holding their breath as Paul Pierce’s potential game winning shot went awry. The Magic made only three field goals in the 4th quarter, but they were all threes, two by Rashard Lewis and one by Mickael Pietrus. Lewis, by the way, has played four terrific games against the Celtics, averaging over 22 points per game, and shooting 50 percent from the field.
- UPDATE 5: Kelly Dwyer of Ball Don't Lie gave his analysis and opinion on the battle between Orlando & Boston. PLUS, in today's episode of the Basketball Jones, J.E. Skeets & Tas Melas touch on the ramifications of the Magic's victory over the Celtics, and more. I suggest giving the video a look.
Howard has been unbelievably good all season, even though he won’t finish even among the top three in the MVP balloting. Like the Magic, his accla im has been slow to come. This was his eighth game this season with at least 20 points and 20 rebounds. The rest of the league combined has totaled only six 20-20 games. No other player has done it more than once.
Howard also has 10 games in which he had at least 15 rebounds and five blocked shots, which explains why he’s close to becoming just the fifth player ever to lead the league in both categories in the same season.
“When he first came into the league, he beat people with pure athleticism. Then he started beating them with skill,” former Magic coach Doc Rivers said.
“When he gets the whole package together I hope I’ll be doing television.”
More stories will, presumably, trickle in as the day rolls along so don't forget to check this post periodically for updates. Thanks.
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First of all....
not only are we lucky to have a Superstar with a Larger than Life personality in D12, we have a coach who is passionate, likable, and tells it like it is.
I love the Rivers quote about being in TV when Dwight gets the whole package together.
Rivers resides in Orlando in the offseason. Have had several friends run into him.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I ran into Doc Rivers one time at Hot Dog Heaven on E. Colonial/436.
This was years ago when he was coaching the Magic .. he was a nice guy when I chatted with him. If my memory serves me correctly, he rolled through with a black Cadillac sitting on dubs.
I’m so grateful to be a Magic fan. It’s a blessing and a joy to watch Dwight Howard play basketball everyday. It’s awesome having such a dynamic head coach in Stan Van Gundy who keeps it real.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
What does this mean?
That’s Back-to-back Southeast Division Champions let that sink in for a while.
But seriously, there is still a lot of work to do before the Magic can go into a series with the Celtics with absolute confidence, like they can with the Cavs (for instance).
This game was really big confidence-wise for Orlando. Yes, it came without Kevin Garnett (in both wins) but Boston has been one of those teams that has ruffled the team’s feathers. The season split was important confidence-wise for this young team.
I think we could all tell last night that the Magic took this game — and by extension the No. 2 seed — much more seriously than Boston. And I think the Magic need home court much more than the Celtics do. They have been there, Orlando has not. The Magic need every advantage they can get.
Philip
Agreed, and nice to see you stop by from your Aristotle site!
.. Orlando needs home-court MUCH more than Boston, that’s why they took the game more seriously.
That seventh game advantage is crucial if the Magic want any chance at advancing past the Celtics.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
We're still gonna need some help to lock up #2
Be cheering for the Hawks on Friday, while we throttle the Bucks.
Not sure that I want to "lock up #2."
There is a 2 game difference in each direction for Detroit. A number 3 seed would almost guarantee us not having to play the Pistons first round. Though our luck would be that they would jump to the number 6 seed.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I used to feel the same way
But now I want the Pistons in the first round.
I think the Magic would win the series, and I think it’s a major stepping stone for the franchise that could boost their confidence going into the 2nd round. I realize that playing the Pistons is more risky than the 76ers, but if the Magic can’t beat a below .500 Piston team, they can’t win a championship, and at this point it’s really all that matters. I say bring ’em on, and hit ’em in the mouth.
I disagree.
The NBA is all about Match-Ups. Some teams match up better against others.
The Pistons are clearly in our heads or match-up well against us (more likely a combination of both).
However, to say that they can’t win the championship be playing poorly against one team hasn’t seen the Celtics 2007-2008 record, where they lost to the Wizards 3 out of 4 times. Yes, the Wizards finished barely above .500, but regardless.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I agree that the NBA is all about match-ups but I feel the Magic need the #2 seed ..
.. if the team wants any chance at advancing far in the playoffs. Orlando can’t be concerned with what Detroit is doing. Whatever happens, happens.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
True...
I think last night was an example of SVG keeping the team focus on one game at a time. However, that concern is going to quickly shift if facing the Pistons.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
I dont by any means encourage
losing games to place yourself in a better match-up.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Match-ups
As UNFNOLE points out, thats whats important. I legitimately feel better about the Magic in a seven game series against Cleveland, L.A., San Antonio, Houston, or whomever from the west than I do about a seven game series against Detroit.
The jury’s still out on how we’ll do against Boston, but I’d sure rather have home-court for that series.
I’m still hoping for the best-case scenario – that the Bulls pass up the Pistons and finish 7th, pushing them down to 8th.
Agreed on all points.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
Here's a quote from a CelticsBlog FanPost:
Nine games left undecided before the playoffs. If we go 0-9, I would not be any more angry sad depressed or upset than I am now. If we go 9-0 I will not be any more happy, elated, excited or pumped up than I am now. We’re not gonna set any records, we don’t put up regular season conference banners, so let me tell you I do not care. Bring on the playoffs already, because Im sick of hearing excuses. All I’ve heard and read since Christmas has been excuses.
Link.
we don’t put up regular season conference banners
oh hai screw you. Ass.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." --Vince Lombardi
by TheGiantSquid on Mar 26, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what it all matters...
You Magic fans are all so proud of winning the Division but the most important thing to win is the Championship.
Please note that Magic almost lost twice to the Celtics when the Celtics aren’t even in FULL FORCE.
We still have injuries in our roster (which our newbies and rookies are taking the place for), KG only playing 16-18 minutes a game (none of those minutes being in the fourth quarter), and Rondo not being 100% (due to his ankle injury… AND his OTHER ankle getting fucked up by Howard landing on top of it during the game).
Don’t be too cocky about being able to beat the Celtics. Wait until the Playoffs when we are healthy.
Oh, and the game yesterday, felt like I was watching a college game.
I believe I saw every Magic player attempt at least 5-6 tries at the three point line (I know I’m overexaggerating but you guys take way too many three pointers). It felt like I was watching a college game… NCAA = Three point contest (lol amirite?!)
If Magic didn’t have a hot night at the three point line, they would have lost. Period.
Damn, i miss the ol times when there wasn’t a three point line.
Orlando may take a plethora of three pointers but the team is 53-18.
.. must be doing something right. Most likely, it’s the fact the team is 2nd in defensive efficiency.
I would say that, for the Magic to succeed in the playoffs, they can’t rely on the three-pointers too much but that’s how the team plays. Dump it to Dwight Howard, shoot the three, and play D.
I would agree, had it not been for a good three-point shooting night, Orlando probably would have lost but they didn’t so it’s time to move on. No need to ramble on .. the game is over.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
The Magic ran the same play probably 4 times in the last 3 minutes last night.
Dwight comes out and sets a pick for Hedo, Hedo dumps it to Rafaer or Shard on the 3 point line. We had good looks each time and couldn’t get it to fall.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Hedo had a ton of looks rim out. I counted at least FIVE, last night.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
I would hate
to seem him swap places with Sweet Lew regarding the slumps. Would be some terrible timing.
"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"
Rashard should have gotten more shots than Turk last night. They kept running the offense through Turk late, and although he had lots of open looks rim out, I'd feel much more comfortable with Rashard taking those big shots
It’s not like Turk’s the only clutch player on the team. Lewis has hit some game-winners: Detroit last year, Philly and Indy this year.
Enough of the bickering, please.
Look, I think any rationale Magic fan will realize that the team has struggled to beat the Celtics at full-strength. That’s fairly obvious, which is why (personally) my optimism is curbed a bit.
Please no cursing. We don’t really accept foul language around here for various reasons.
I don’t think any rationale Magic fan is being cocky about the victory. I think that the majority of the community is aware of the context in which Orlando won the game and is realistic about the future.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
yeah heaven forbid we be excited about winning our second division championship in 12 years
Bad fans, bad! You’re not allowed to be happy or enjoy your team unless there’s a championship involved!! Personally, I prefer taking these things one step at a time, but apparently Boston fans count their eggs before they’ve hatched. Division titles come before conference titles come before championships. Don’t be so sure you’ve got this thing locked up.
And get this: teams find ways of winning when some/a lot of their players are injured! Other players step up, are able to get it done, sometimes going into overdrive. Also, you’re not the only team in the league that’s suffering from injuries. Boston is the not end-all, be-all of the NBA.
Lastly, if I recall correctly, the Magic are ranked in the top 5 of defensive efficiency. Other teams that “jack up threes”—i.e. the Spurs or the Suns or the Warriors—are not ranked so high. We are not a one trick pony and you’re deluding yourself if you truly believe that.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." --Vince Lombardi
by TheGiantSquid on Mar 26, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Case closed. You made your point, TGS.
No need to fuel more fire into the argument. Let it be, please. That’s all I ask.
I’m all for friendly debate and discussion (I encourage and welcome it), but no need to start a bashfest. Personally, I don’t want this community to exercise in arguments that are fickle ..
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
fine I'm done
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." --Vince Lombardi
by TheGiantSquid on Mar 26, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If Boston finishes with a better conference record, they would win the tiebreaker.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
I know they have an easier road
But I believe this win will pump the team up for the rest of the season. This is a fairly young team that seems eager to finish the season strong. Personally, I can only think of one threat on the schedule for the rest of the schedule. Even if the team locks in the second seed, I wouldn’t be shocked to see Stan playing his normal lineup regardless.
by magic fanatic on Mar 26, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
A Few Thoughts about the Game
Wow! This is the most heated I have ever seen 3QC!!
Celtics fans are right. They didn’t have their star player last night. We didn’t have Jameer. But really that doesn’t matter, the team we put on the floor beat the team they put on the floor. Thats called basketball. We moved ahead of them in the standings for now. As a Magic fan, I can be happy with that for the time being.
They are such a strong team. The beef they have down low is really impressive. I was really happy with the game. It was a lot of fun to watch.
The Celtics are the World Champs, like, 20 times over, I wish we had that tradition but we don’t. We are the repeating South Eastern Conf. Champions… nothing to scoff at… Miami and Atlanta have really improved this year. We have to hang out Conf. Banners… our rafters would be pretty bare without them (with only that Sweet #6 up there).
We might not win the NBA Title this year. But thats ok, we are barely starting to peak… Boston is undoubtedly on the downslope. They feel entitlement after 1 year of recent greatness and they definately have a great team. We’ll be there one day. Today, we should just enjoy the win.
Last note- I want to play the Pistons in the first round. If we are to be World Champions… I want it to go straight threw Detroit first.
by The Stan 'Stache on Mar 26, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
Congrats
Good win guys, you won fair and square. Your team played better basketball than we did last night and that’s why you won. Our team only showed up for half the game and played some pretty c*appy basketball. We deserved to lose.
Just in case you have not read this, this is what KG had to say about the game:
"…You go into it knowing you’ve got to do certain things to impact the game. With those things said, from the standpoint of being a presence I still thought I did a good job of being active. But playing against Rashard Lewis, one of the premier players in this league, it’s just what it is. No disrespect to anyone I played previous, but this is the high caliber of players."
Cheers,
See ya in the playoffs!
No doubt!
Thanks for stopping by and sharing KG’s comments. That’s classy of him to say, with regards to Lewis.
Look forward to (most likely) meeting ya’ll in the playoffs! Should be a doozy of a series.
This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas
Coming from the most gifted player I have ever seen that’s pretty high praise.
by magic fanatic on Mar 26, 2009 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions

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