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Orlando Magic News for March 16th: Experts Examine the Magic's Bench and Backcourt

Today, two different ESPN scribes addressed subject we at this site have examined recently:

  • Recall erivera7's debunking of the myth that the Orlando Magic's bench is weak. Then, read Kevin Arnovitz's assessment of the benches of likely playoff teams. Here's part of what he says about the Magic:

    The Magic's six-through-nine might not include a wily veteran like Kurt Thomas, Robert Horry, or P.J. Brown that usually populate the bench of championship teams, but that doesn't mean Orlando's reserves aren't primed for the postseason. It's a fairly efficient group and, comparatively, a healthy one.

    Unless one counts Tony Battie as a wily veteran, the Magic are indeed bereft of such a player usually associated with championship teams, as Arnovitz notes.

  • Earlier today, I compared the Magic's remaining schedule to that of the Boston Celtics, who have a half-game lead on Orlando for the East's second seed. John Hollinger provides his take on that race:

    The Magic still project to finish two games worse than Boston thanks to a more difficult closing kick, but they'll own the tiebreak if they beat the Celtics on March 25. Also factor in that the playoff odds don't know of Boston's injury problems. Look for this race to go down to the wire.

Also in the news today: thoughts on Orlando's backcourt.

  • Brian Schmitz of the Orlando Sentinel reports that coach Stan Van Gundy has praised J.J. Redick for his defense, of all things. I'm still waiting for the game in which he plays superbly on both ends of the floor, though; he gamely fought through screens while defending Kyle Korver yesterday, but shot just 2-of-10 himself.

  • Interesting to note that J.J. has played a total of 42:58 in Orlando's last four fourth quarters; put another way, he's only been on the bench for 5:02 in those games. The only game in which he did not play the entire fourth quarter was last Wednesday's 107-79 pasting of the Chicago Bulls. Van Gundy pulled Redick with 5:02 to play and inserted Courtney Lee, who has started the balance of games at shooting guard for Orlando this season, to play in garbage time.

  • Dan Savage of OrlandoMagic.com looks at the effect Rafer Alston is having on the team. I found this bit particularly enlightening:

    "Of course the ball handling and decision making are going to always be there, because that's what he's known for," [Anthony] Johnson said about Alston's attributes. "Now he knows when his shots are going to come in the offense and is making plays. He looks like he is fitting in well. The better he plays, the better we play."

    Alston's impact is having a positive affect on Johnson as well.

    Although the two rarely grace the court at the same time, his presence has allowed Johnson to revert back to a backup role and increased his production.

    The player known as Dad to his teammates for his veteran wisdom tallied 14 points and five rebounds in just over 21 minutes against Utah.

    In his last 5 games, Johnson is averaging 7.4 points on 45.6% shooting, 2.4 rebounds, 3 assists, and 0.8 turnovers. Steady, in other words. I can dig it.

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I don’t know… Johnson strikes me as pretty wily. I mean, the guy’s definitely not getting by on his athletic ability…

by 3.3seconds on Mar 16, 2009 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So do I get bonus points for pointing out Orlando has an efficient bench, first? Heh.

This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas

by erivera7 on Mar 16, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

during the game against Utah

Goukas and Steele were both talking about the bench and how if you apply minutes played to their output, we actually have quite the efficient bench.

They totally stole that from you, man. ;)

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." --Vince Lombardi

by TheGiantSquid on Mar 16, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmm. I'll ask 'em on Wednesday.

Why not, right?

This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas

by erivera7 on Mar 16, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

omg yes!

and then you’ll be escorted away by security :D

"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." --Vince Lombardi

by TheGiantSquid on Mar 16, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rec

will be your “bonus point.”

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by UNFNOLE on Mar 17, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice. Grazie.

This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas

by erivera7 on Mar 17, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AJ has been ballinnnnnn

he’s gone from bad back up, to horrendous starter, to now, an excellent back up. dare i say, one of the best back ups in the league… i honestly think he has been playing that well lately..

by coque429 on Mar 16, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and that's obviously not based on stats ...

he’s just making a lot of good, smart plays.

by coque429 on Mar 16, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been a lot more effective lately, simply because he's able to maximize his output.

Lot easier for him to play good basketball for 15-20 minutes every game.

This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas

by erivera7 on Mar 16, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

excellent is a little much

But I do agree that he looks good off the bench right now. It’s the tail of the tape for him. He’s a servicable backup but when he’s relied on too heavily he plays terrible.

On that note, seems like the Bogans trade was pointless for both teams.

by magic fanatic on Mar 16, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh well, at least Lue's contract is expiring.

This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas

by erivera7 on Mar 16, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, I missed that line

Bogans was always a scrappy defender though. The problem is that when he is off defensivly, he’s really bad. He’s allowed 40+ points from opposing sg’s plenty of times.

by magic fanatic on Mar 17, 2009 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It surprised

me who we are ahead of in bench eff. (Cleveland esp.). I think the problem with not having a ‘wily’ veteran who comes off the bench isn’t so much the name of the person or how much they can do, rather the energy they bring.

We lack the Darrell Armstrong, who brings a different level of energy. The Manu for SAS. In that regards it may be great to have Rafeer on the bench next season. He is def. a HIGH energy guy and could bring that boost. I would love to see C. Lee be that guy if we can get a PF in and shift some people around, or JJ develop into that.

AJ doesn’t have the legs to be a starter, so I would agree with yall that he has found his role on the team. However, he is a streaky player. Part of me doesn’t anticipate this lasting long (Hopefully, through the playoffs, but doubtful).

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by UNFNOLE on Mar 17, 2009 6:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

(or the neck for that matter)

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by UNFNOLE on Mar 17, 2009 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Orlando should be fine, bench-wise.

I like to think Dad as a crafty veteran. He’s been around the block.

This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas

by erivera7 on Mar 17, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Always appreciate your dilligence

to reply to every comment. Makes folks feel welcomed around here.

"I have come that you may have life, and life to the max"

by UNFNOLE on Mar 17, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No doubt. I like conversing and interacting with everyone.

I always felt .. if a person takes the time to comment around here, you deserve a response.

This is my end and my new beginning Nostalgia/Alpha and Omega places, it's like a glitch in the matrix/I seen it at all, did it all, most of y'all been pop for a minute/Spitters, sinners and the game get rid of y'all/Y'all got there but y'all didn't get it all, I want my style back/Hate to cease y'all plan it's the rap repo-man - Nas

by erivera7 on Mar 17, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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