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Orlando Magic 118, New York Knicks 104

Wearing the classic black pinstriped jerseys in celebration of its past, as part of NBA Hardwood Classics Night at the O-Rena, the Orlando Magic were able to defeat the New York Knicks - a squad playing on a back-to-back - by the score of 118-104 in a game that showcased an elite team's depth more than anything else. Nate Robinson, for whatever reason, was a DNP - Coach's Decision for the Knicks. Six Magic players scored in double-figures, highlighted by efficient performances from Matt Barnes (12 points, 5-8 FG), Brandon Bass (17 points, 7-12 FG), Dwight Howard (19 points, 6-7 FG, 7-10 FT), Rashard Lewis (20 points, 6-8 FG, 5-7 3PT), and Mickael Pietrus (17 points, 6-10 FG, 5-8 3PT). Every Magic player who suited up saw minutes last night and pitched in whenever possible. 

 

A team win, in the truest sense of the term.

TeamPaceEfficiencyeFG%FT RateOReb%TO Rate
Knicks 94 110.3 52.4% 19.0 27.7 19.1
Magic 94 125.2 61.5% 28.2 34.3 20.2
Green denotes a stat better than the team's season average;
red denotes a stat worse than the team's season average.

In the first quarter, as has been a recurring theme for the Magic lately, Howard touched the basketball early and often in the post on 4-out/1-in offensive sets. Knowing that David Lee couldn't guard him, Dwight got deep positioning against him a couple of instances - drawing a foul and making a layup. The times that Howard wasn't defended by Lee, he was being guarded by Wilson Chandler. Yes, Chandler, a 6'8'' forward. A few times, Wilson was caught guarding Dwight after switching on a pick and roll, for example. Needless to say, it was no contest for Howard (though Chandler did draw an offensive foul on one possession), who ended up seeing double-teams the remainder of the night once Mike D'Antoni saw that his interior D was being shredded. 

 

New York's defense in the period was terrible, at times, to be frank. On one possession, Jason Williams executed a 1/5 pick & roll with Dwight and got a ridiculously easy layup off of it. Instead of switching or trapping or showing/hedging or going under the pick, the defenders for the Knicks did none of the above during the play sequence.

 

If one remembers a few days ago, I stated that if Stan Van Gundy wishes to explore the possibility, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea for Bass to play at the five when the matchups are favorable. 

 

Last night, the matchups were favorable and it's no coincidence that Stan elected to play Brandon at the center position the majority of the time while he was on the floor (for roughly 18 minutes). In the second quarter, Bass got things going very quickly on the offensive side of the ball once he checked into the game, posting up in 4-out/1-in offensive sets and getting easy layups on back-to-back possessions. When Brandon wasn't posting up, he was hitting his mid-range jumper or getting garbage points off of an offensive rebound. To put it simply, Bass was the playmaker in the second unit and a workhorse on offense.

 

However, once the third quarter rolled around, it was the Rashard Lewis and Mickael Pietrus show from long distance. 

 

After back-to-back threes from Larry Hughes of Hey Larry Hughes, Please Stop Taking So Many Bad Shots fame - sorry, couldn't resist - and Chris Duhon forced Van Gundy to call a timeout early in the period, something must of happened in the Orlando huddle because Lewis and Pietrus went bonkers following the stoppage of play. Perhaps each channeling their inner-Dennis Scott.

 

THIRD QUARTER

- [9:31] Lewis, three-point 24' jump shot (Carter assist)

- [8:54] Pietrus, three-point 23' jump shot (Williams assist)

- [8:00] Pietrus, three-point 27' jump shot

- [7:23] Pietrus, three-point 24' jump shot (Lewis assist)

- [6:04] Lewis, three-point 23' fast break jump shot (Carter assist)

- [4:20] Lewis, three-point 27' jump shot (Carter assist)

- [3:28] Lewis, three-point 26' jump shot (Williams assist)

- [2:38] Pietrus, three-point 26' fast break jump shot (Williams assist)

 

Mickael and Rashard accounted for eight of the 11 field goals in the quarter (they combined to make 10 threes in 15 attempts; the remainder of the team went 0-15 from beyond the arc). The Magic, after scoring 20 points in the second quarter, scored 41 points in the subsequent period. Perhaps Orlando was motivated to put a dent in the scoreboard and prove a point after the Atlanta Hawks (42 points in the second quarter) and the Dallas Mavericks (49 points in the second quarter) went on offensive sprees in their respective games during the evening. I'm being facetious, of course. Nevertheless, the Magic (as has been the case before) showed how explosive its offense can be when the squad is hitting on all cylinders for an extended amount of time. 

 

By the end of the third quarter, Orlando built up a comfortable lead of 22 points. It's no surprise, then, that the Magic coasted the remainder of the contest.

 

Before I wrap things up, there's a few things that are worth noting from the game.

 

The pick & roll defense for Orlando was excellent, given that Duhon and Lee didn't do as much damage as they did when these two teams met this past Sunday. The Magic, as Van Gundy alluded to in the presser, did a much better job of being more active and rotating quicker in the pick & roll, denying the pass, and forcing the Knicks to score baskets in other ways. In essence, Orlando did to New York what it's been doing to other squads in the NBA for a while - force the team to shoot contested jumpshots. That, when getting down to the nuts and bolts of it, is how the Magic's defense excels. The team defense for Orlando, however, started out good but slowly waned in the second half.

 

Vince Carter had a rather pedestrian performance for the Magic but what was most impressive about him, though, was that he didn't make a bad situation worse. As the game progressed and the shots weren't falling for Carter, he scaled back his offense and looked to contribute in other ways for Orlando. Look no further than above in the play-by-play data, where Vince assisted on some threes from Rashard. Carter deserves some credit for cutting his losses, so to speak, and getting his teammates involved offensively.

 

Lastly, it's one game and it may or may not be a trend but it's becoming increasingly obvious that Bass should see more minutes at center - again - when the matchups are favorable. The issue with Brandon, and this has been brought up before by myself and others, has been his defense and the fact that the offense suffers when he's on the court. But the catch is that this occurs when Bass plays power forward. When Brandon plays center, things are different, especially on the offensive side of the ball. With Bass at the five, the Magic are still able to execute its 4-out/1-in offensive sets, which is important because the roster is built around that philosophy. Although Brandon isn't a better passer than Dwight in the post, his skills on offense are much more diverse (having the mid-range jumper in his arsenal being the main difference). As such, Orlando is still efficient and potent on offense. It's a perfect marriage, of sorts, because it allows Bass to play his game with effectiveness but it still allows the Magic to maintain a stretch four on the court with Anderson or Lewis. Of course, Brandon's defense is still a work in progress, but it's been better. And all of this effects Marcin Gortat, a player that might see his minutes cut a bit thanks to Bass. 

 

Ah, the ebb and flow of NBA rotations. 

 

With the win, the Orlando Magic will now trek to the West Coast for the team's first lengthy road trip of the regular season. For Ryan Anderson, a Cal alum, it'll be a homecoming for him. For Matt Barnes, a UCLA alum, it'll not only be a homecoming for him but also a reunion tour, of sorts, as he'll face off against three former teams - the Golden State Warriors, the Los Angeles Clippers, and the Phoenix Suns.

 

Fun.

 

As for the competition, it should be a good test for the team. 

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Thanks for noting the positive contributions Vince Carter brought to the game

Even though he shot poorly, his 5 assists, 2 steals, and just 1 turnover indicates he did his share to contribute to the win.

It was a true team victory.

"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"

by Mike from Illinois on Dec 3, 2009 4:53 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, that seems a bit harsh on Nate.

I mean, if you’re going to bench a guy to make a statement, you don’t bench him against the team he dropped 24 on less than a week ago. That’s just common sense.

Bo Outlaw's name is Charles. Chucky Atkins' isn't.

by 3.3seconds on Dec 3, 2009 7:40 AM EST reply actions  

Isn't that the point of a statement?

“I don’t care what you did in the past, you do your damn job!”

by eltharion_doa on Dec 3, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

bass

nice game for Brandon great job. Vince had a nice adjustment game tuning in to team first. Bass at center is a nice little gimmick but he gets killed on the boards and blocks out poorly. Thus we have to alter run back d to crash the boards a little more. What I would like to see Brandon do is become a lock down rugged defender at the small. With Pet, Barnes and Bass beating down the other teams best player each night we can be nearly impossible to beat. I can see Labron’s and Mo’s moms coming out of the stands swinging purses and yelling “Sterny made promises”.

by shaq O'flopapanick on Dec 3, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, that's the only problem playing Brandon at the five - rebounding becomes an issue.

That’s why I feel it’s imperative to have Barnes in the lineup, as well, because he’s a decent rebounder.

I write for Third Quarter Collapse and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Dec 3, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Is some of the issue with Bass’ (and even Ryan’s at times) rebounding that players like Gortat, Barnes, and Dwight are just too prolific of rebounders to let Bass grab some. Even Lewis just happens to be in the perfect places for rebounds lately.

by derekk on Dec 3, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sort of.

That wasn’t the case last night, though, because Bass played with Lewis/Barnes and none of them are great rebounders to begin with. I’m honestly not surprised that trio struggled to rebound, even though Rashard did have 11 rebounds for the game. That is an issue with playing Brandon at the 5.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Dec 3, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Selected quotes from the SB Knicks blog recap

“At the risk of sounding psychotic, I’d really like to cook and eat Dwight Howard’s shoulders, and then do the same with Brandon Bass’s to compare taste and texture. I’d bet Anthony Johnson would make a fine cut of meat as well. Word has it they hand-feed him beer and massage him daily to marble the fat.”

“Rashard Lewis is probably kinda gamy. I’m sorry. I’ll stop.”

Dwight and Brandon do have pretty meaty shoulders.

by eltharion_doa on Dec 3, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I just wanted to point out

That it seemed to me Bass slid into the 5 spot because Gortat played like $%^#. If I remember correctly, he came into the game and picked up a def foul, an off. foul, a def. foul and another turnover in like two minutes which saw our nice 1st quarter lead go up in smoke. What the hell is wrong with that guy this year? He got to finish in garbage time and his end stats still read:
6:30 minutes, 1-1 shooting, 1 rebound, a -10 point diff., 2 turnovers and 4 fouls! That is obscenely bad and I am glad Van Gundy benched his but until garbage time. I hope this guy gets his act together, he does realize that he won’t be traded to a team as a starter playing like this, right?

by Eric9321 on Dec 3, 2009 10:02 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I don't know what's up with Marcin.

Gortat has really been struggling this year.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Dec 3, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually still think Bass is abit aways from Gortat’s defense (even in his slumping form), but like I did speculate before, playing Bass as the 1 in of 4/1 sets is absolutely brilliant. It’s going to be great for certain matchups (GS game coming up should too) and more consistently over time if SVG wants. Bass needs to stick to 1 on 1 defense still, his shows and PnR defense is not good yet. If he developed weak side defense and blocking, he’d be a beast everywhere.

by derekk on Dec 3, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, Brandon is a bit away in the defensive department but he's getting better.

I just can’t say enough how much more sense it is to play Bass at the 5 than at the 4.

I write for Third Quarter Collapse and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Dec 3, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody get him Chuck Hayes tapes to watch.

Hayes is unbelievable for a 6’ 6" center. Brandon is similarly strong and could probably learn something from Hayes (and, yes I recognize the team’s schemes might be different). If Brandon combines Hayes-like defense with his shooting touch, that will be something.

by magicfaninTN on Dec 3, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, totally agree. Actually, it was Houston’s front line that first made me think Bass can deftly play C, something he did in Dallas too. Bass becomes Hayes on D and keeps the offense he has right now, that’s legit All Star. Keep practicing Bass!

by derekk on Dec 3, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, dismissing Bass' height as a center is a bit presumptuous.

Your example of Chuck Hayes is a perfect example.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Dec 3, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It should be pointed out that there was a good stretch where Dwight, Bass, and Lewis were on the court together.

I’m not sure anyone has seen that lineup enough to dismiss it as ineffective. With Vince, that’s a pretty potent offense, albeit one that plays somewhat of a different style. Again, it comes down to matchups. Rashard has shown he’s capable of matching up against 3’s for stretches.

by CaliFlorida on Dec 3, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed -- Bass could be effective at the 4

I recognize that the stretch 4 has been a great asset to our team, but there’s some virtue to throwing different styles of offense at opposing teams.. Playing Bass at the 4 make us more conventional, sure, but that lineup is unconventional for us, and the change-up could be useful in some situations.

by gift of the magi on Dec 3, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know.

I’ve seen Brandon enough at the 4 where I think it’s too much of a detriment. I think, in my opinion, the situation should be treated like it’s being done with Rashard. Play Bass mostly at the 5 but still find minutes for him at the 4. It’s no different than to play Lewis mostly at the 4 but still find minutes for him at the 3.

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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Dec 3, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It worked because the Knicks are terrible on defense.

Brandon at the 4 hasn’t worked as well against more competent defenses.

I write for Third Quarter Collapse and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Dec 4, 2009 4:02 AM EST up reply actions  

And by the same token, Bass at the 5 worked against the Knicks because . . . ?

The fact is the Dwight, Bass, Rashard, Vince lineup has not seen much, if any, action at all. Most of Bass’s minutes at the 4 has been playing alongside guys like Barnes and Redick. It’s probably not fair to draw conclusions based on that.

by CaliFlorida on Dec 4, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

After the Cavaliers game, that's all I needed to see.

I write for Third Quarter Collapse and have a Twitter account.

"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat

by erivera7 on Dec 4, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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