Oklahoma City Thunder 102, Orlando Magic 74
In one of their ugliest performances in recent memory, the Orlando Magic fell to the Oklahoma City Thunder, 102-74, to drop to 5-2 on the season. Poor shooting, lazy defense, an utter lack of effort... this game is one the Magic would like to forget. Dwight Howard led the Magic with 20 points and 7 boards, while Mickael Pietrus added 15 points off the bench. Kevin Durant scored 28 points for the Thunder, who placed three other players in double-figures. Orlando allowed Oklahoma City to shoot 57.1% from the field and 56.2% from three-point range. In joking that the Magic resembled the 2003/04 squad that lost 61 games, Twitter user whatthenoelle had the best line of the season so far, writing, "The Magic apparently traveled to Oklahoma in a Delorean."
| Team | Pace | Efficiency | eFG% | FT Rate | OReb% | TO Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Magic | 85 | 86.6 | 39.0% | 30.9 | 18.0 | 17.6 |
| Thunder | 120.0 | 63.6% | 18.6 | 16.0 | 20.0 |
Indeed, shooting was the story. The Thunder got open look after open look against the Magic's defense, while not giving the Magic many similar opportunities at the other end. Sure, maybe J.J. Redick (2-of-11 overall, 0-of-6 on three-pointers) had some bad bounces on open shots, but otherwise, the Thunder's active defense prevented the Magic from getting anything going offensively. No rhythm whatsoever. And as Magic color man Matt Guokas pointed out, Redick's tendency to fade away on his shots didn't help his cause.
One sequence midway through the second quarter effectively turned the tide in Oklahoma City's favor, and may have prompted the Magic to pack it in. After a tremendous alley-oop connection between Jameer Nelson and Pietrus bumped the score to 35-31 in Orlando's favor, Russell Westbrook took a feed from Kevin Durant on the left wing and drilled a three-pointer. Marcin Gortat airballed a baby hook on the Magic's ensuing possession, leading to an off-balance transition three by Durant with Westbrook assisting. A Nelson dish led Gortat into the lane for a dunk to knot the game at 37, but Thabo Sefolosha--who's quicking becoming one of the league's best three-and-D specialists--swished a wide-open trey from the right wing to give Oklahoma City a three-point edge. The Thunder sank as many three-pointers in that 88-second stretch as the Magic did the whole night.
But this is a game the Magic could have won, had they matched the Thunder's defensive effort. Coach Stan Van Gundy harped on this point in his post-game comments, bemoaning his team's lack of toughness and engagement on defense. He said the Thunder would have won this game even if the Magic's missing players (Ryan Anderson, Vince Carter, and Rashard Lewis) been available. Frankly, it's hard to disagree. Even before Anderson left last Friday's game against Detroit with a sprained ankle, the Magic had played below-average defense for most of the season. Orlando won plenty of games last year with its defense, the league's most efficient. The same trend hasn't held up, and I'm in firm agreement with Van Gundy when he says his team will continue to lose games like this one until the players step up their effort.
Is it gloom-and-doom time in Orlando? Almost. There's no shame in losing to a better team--and the Thunder are the better team, when accounting for the Magic's missing players--but there is shame in mailing in a game like this one.
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Why is the Magic lacking on the defensive end?
I mean, we have the same coaching staff, and to me, the defensive linchpin on-court is Dwight Howard… is missing Hedo and Rashard the issue? The way I saw it, until now, was that those two had stepped up their defensive game thanks to SVG. Neither Lewis or Turk were ever considered great defenders in the past (and some may argue they weren’t great either last year, but as a team the got the job done)… I don’t get it.
Maybe it is that they still need all the new guys to get on board on the defensive end…
Magic Fan since the 1992-1993 Season.
by North of the South on Nov 8, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's simple, the Magic haven't had much time during the regular season to fix on mistakes.
Stan Van Gundy hasn’t had the ability to run a practice where Orlando can work out the kinks. What’s exacerbating the problem is that the team has the be careful with guys so that they don’t lose anyone else to injury or sickness. Just a tricky situation. Time has been an enemy, more than anything else.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Nov 9, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overexertion Offensively
I have not been able to watch a whole lot of games this year (missing the days of Free NBA League Pass), but the problem defensively seems to me that guys are having to focus a lot of energy on offense to make up for all the losses. Guys like JJ and Ryan are not supposed to be taking this many shots in our offense, but they have to with Vince and Rashard out. I think even Jameer and Dwight feel they have to pick up the slack offensively because those guys are out.
Orlando is not a team built to have a 30-plus point scorer every night. It takes three or four guys scoring close to 15-20 a game to make this team work offensively. That way everyone knows they will have their runs of scoring, but they can expend most of their energy defensively.
I think this is the case mostly with Dwight. He has had to carry a lot of offensive load so far this year and his overagression there is costing him on defense both in terms of fouls accumulated and energy.
I am REALLY concerned by the defense right now because clearly we are not going to be able to shoot ourselves out of holes every night. But I do think things will get better once Lewis and Carter are back.
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by philrsquared on Nov 9, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This game doesn’t deserve a break down or analasis, everyone in the lockeroom should punch themselves in the face repeatedly.
I know what Bo dont know.
by D-RAK on Nov 8, 2009 10:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
seems like we've just lost that spirit
we had it during the preseason, and i think we let that detroit game get to us. let’s hope that getting everyone back on board makes a difference.
by kerem on Nov 8, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Detroit game did nothing to the team.
Orlando’s lack of depth caught up to them .. finally.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Nov 9, 2009 12:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO!!!
Watching Lakers vs Hornets cause I have Cp3 for fantasy
They had their sideline Around the NBA report.
bullet 3 was Thunder Crush Magic by 28/
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
by BS Patrol on Nov 8, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And to the right, Around SBNation, Thunder Dominate Magic… Both don’t seem to do enough justice to how badly Magic got beat down lol ..
by derekk on Nov 8, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares.
It’s a regular season game in November.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Nov 9, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fans care.
And, I get what you’re saying about the big picture. But we still care.
by magicfaninTN on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed FANS care,
Keep pumpin, ain't worried bout nuttin
Busters thought we was frontin, so reload and keep dumpin
Keep Sleeping on Orlando...
by BS Patrol on Nov 9, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I care but a loss isn't the end of the world.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Nov 9, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dissapointed in Jameer. He shouldve known he needed to score without Rashard Lewis or Vince Carter. He’s supposed to be a scorer PG as he says, but I saw only a few nice moments. He should’ve had a Baron Davis game to atleast show he was trying to score, 4-12 or something, instead of a weak 3-6 or something. I put it on him because he is the leader out there.
Team defense was horrible, so everyone is bad there.
by derekk on Nov 8, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
im not really a jameer fan
i think we got one of the most inconsistent pg in the nba. and i think brandon bass is fitted for the magic.
what we do in life echoes in eternity
by Hbkid on Nov 8, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think you just started watching the Magic play in the playoffs last season.
Never trust a fart
by AB's triple double on Nov 9, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bass is not fitted for the magic
what we do in life echoes in eternity
by Hbkid on Nov 8, 2009 11:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that was a quick back track.
IMO, Bass is a fit, but he shows he is behind the curve on learning the system on both ends.
by magicfaninTN on Nov 9, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least no one can blame the officiating for this loss
…like some people did after the Detroit loss last week.
Magic had 19 more free throw attempts than the Thunder.
"Orlando Magic... 2009 Eastern Conference Champions"
by Mike from Illinois on Nov 9, 2009 12:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Our defense sucks and JJ is leading the team in minutes
Coincidence?
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
In other words
This team we are watching to start the season is not the Orlando Magic team we will see for most of the year. Take these results lightly.
'Coach, Dwight is a nice guy. Dwight don't hit anybody. But Superman will knock the crap out of you.' - D12
by Eyriq the Red on Nov 9, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not necessarily.
Hard for Redick to defend Durant, at times, when he can simply shoot over him.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
My bigger beef with JJ is the way he passed up open looks in the OKC game. All for getting everyone else involved, but too many times he gave up an open look to made a difficult pass. JJ, you’re a shooter. Confidence issue?
by magicfaninTN on Nov 9, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not a confidence issue, that's just how he is.
Redick said it to me himself, he’s a ball mover and tries to execute the offense.
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"The second unit is kind of crazy because the second unit is only white guys." - Marcin Gortat
by erivera7 on Nov 9, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Thunder really have grown, they’re no lottery team anymore. When Guokas said early in the broadcast that the Thunder have slowed their game down, I knew it would catch the Magic off guard and its a great way to beat the Magic if you can defend very well, which they sorta did, other part was totally abnormally good shooting for them, particularly from 3 land and Krystic taking over most accurate mid range shooter spot for a night..
by derekk on Nov 9, 2009 5:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Magic need a PF who can shoot the three.
This year, like last year, this team just doesn’t work without that. And we didn’t have that at all tonight.
He's currently two-thirds man, one-third amazing. Which, let's face it, is still a pretty good ratio.
by 3.3seconds on Nov 9, 2009 6:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Magic lacked go to guy last night
No Hedo, no Vince, no Rashard. I thought Jameer shoulda stepped up last night and just take over the scoring duty. Instead everyone was hesitating and waiting for the offense to happen. I mean, it’s great that Magic is an unselfish bunch, but when things go south and everyone got dispirited, someone needs to say @#$% it, I am taking over. That’s what I like about Pietrus, for all his recklessness, he also seemed to have that I-gotta-make-something-happen mentality, unfortunately his FT were off last night. The only other guy last night willing to shoot was JJ, unfortunately his 3PT were off, and that kinda got into his head later on in 2nd half so he stopped shooting them.
But credit the Thunder tho, they were really quick at doubling dwight and then getting back to cover the shooters. This is gonna be a problem now when everyone knows what the Magic is about, so I think Magic need to work on cutting to the basket when Dwight is doubled, changing it up, especially for Bass, he’s not gonna stretch the D that much anyway without a 3pt range anyway.
by pcnyc on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thing is, having Bass at PF made things easier for Oklahoma City defensively.
That’s why Orlando’s offense last night look so human is because it’s predicated on having a stretch four/“four spreader” to maximize the spacing on the court. This is exactly what I was talking about the entire off-season. I like Brandon Bass but the offense just isn’t the same with him on the court. The Magic have to rely more on 3-out/2-in offensive sets and that makes it easier for teams to stay home on shooters when doubling/tripling Howard. The Thunder just defended properly because of the personnel out on the court.
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by erivera7 on Nov 9, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's early in the season, but...
It’s also a pivotal moment for the Team, a wake-up call: even with half the rotation out, the Magic HAVE to address this defensive liability and really pour their individual and collective HEARTS into it!
A lot of fans here seem to be looking for scapegoats; J.J., Nelson, etc… And sure enough, each played well short of their capabilities. But some of the comments are all over the map and just unfair. Sure, J.J. shot a bunch of 3-pointers, but realizing that he was off-mark, he started looking for others… very wise. See, you can’t have it both ways; criticize him when he shoots and burn him if he doesn’t. Remember Alston and even Turk? They would just keep on shooting bad shot after bad shot when the game was on the line.
I’m with Stan on his critical analysis; we MUST fix this! But I’m also optimistic that the Magic WILL fix this by season’s end and clear the way for a long playoff run. I’m not particularly scared of a future matchup with Durant; with a healthy, focused team playing with the right intensity, the Magic can control him. Durant shot 28 points, with a few fast break lay-ups-dunks coming mostly off steals. But most of his shots come off plain jumpers, usually over shorter men. He’s no slasher! Anderson, at 6’10", will take care of THAT! And MP can certainly take care of Sefalosha; Carter can contain Westbrook, or at the very LEAST, match him point-wise.
But… BIG BUT… this will happen ONLY IF THE MAGIC FOCUS 100% on DEFENSE! …NOW!!!
by manny55 on Nov 9, 2009 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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